Re: [spamdyke-users] Error on Qmail Toaster Install

2014-11-04 Thread Quinn Comendant
[This is a reply to 
https://www.mail-archive.com/spamdyke-users@spamdyke.org/msg03900.html—I don't 
have the original messages to this post probably won't thread correctly.]

When running `spamdyke --config-test` I experienced a `free(): invalid pointer` 
error similar to Jeff's, but found the problem: my morercpthosts file started 
with a blank line, then a line starting with a #, a bit like this:

---

#example.com
host1.com
host2.com
host3.com
…
---

Here's the error output: http://pastebin.com/d2tt8ah2

The solution was to delete these two useless lines from morercpthosts and it 
worked.

spamdyke could catch this error if it parsed the file in a smarter way 
(accepting only lines with valid domains or displaying an error if unacceptable 
characters were found.

Quinn
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[spamdyke-users] Avoiding greylisting delays by making many exceptions

2014-11-04 Thread Quinn Comendant
I'm new to greylisting, and have just set up spamdyke on a mail server with a 
few hundred users. Immediately my colleagues and I got annoyed with delayed 
deliveries to our personal addresses ;P. 

I'm wondering if it would be a reasonable solution to create a 
`graylist-exception-rdns-file` containing the top 500 or so most common 
reputable rdns hosts? Surely no spam would be expected to originate from rdns 
origins matching, e.g.:

.twitter.com
.apple.com
.amazonses.com
.gmail.com
…etc

Using a list such as http://moz.com/top500 might be a good start. I hope this 
method would allow the prevention of delivery delays from the hosts people rely 
on most, while still inhibiting spam from the other 99.9% of rdns hosts.

Does anybody have experience using this method?

I'm trying it now, and will report back if I have any issues. But I don't have 
a history of using greylisting, so not sure if it is a best practice.

Thanks,
Quinn
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Re: [spamdyke-users] Avoiding greylisting delays by making many exceptions

2014-11-04 Thread BC


At the suggestion of others here, I turned OFF greylisting last year, 
after having used it for years before that.  My spam level didn't 
increase one bit.  I think the RBL sites are pretty good at 
identifying spam originations, so I use thatmethod now.



On 11/4/2014 12:55 AM, Quinn Comendant wrote:

I'm new to greylisting, and have just set up spamdyke on a mail server with a 
few hundred users. Immediately my colleagues and I got annoyed with delayed 
deliveries to our personal addresses ;P.

I'm wondering if it would be a reasonable solution to create a 
`graylist-exception-rdns-file` containing the top 500 or so most common 
reputable rdns hosts? Surely no spam would be expected to originate from rdns 
origins matching, e.g.:

.twitter.com
.apple.com
.amazonses.com
.gmail.com
...etc

Using a list such as http://moz.com/top500 might be a good start. I hope this 
method would allow the prevention of delivery delays from the hosts people rely 
on most, while still inhibiting spam from the other 99.9% of rdns hosts.

Does anybody have experience using this method?

I'm trying it now, and will report back if I have any issues. But I don't have 
a history of using greylisting, so not sure if it is a best practice.

Thanks,
Quinn


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Re: [spamdyke-users] Avoiding greylisting delays by making many exceptions

2014-11-04 Thread Quinn Comendant
On Tue, 04 Nov 2014 08:05:22 -0700, BC wrote:
 At the suggestion of others here, I turned OFF greylisting last year, 
 after having used it for years before that.  My spam level didn't 
 increase one bit.  I think the RBL sites are pretty good at 
 identifying spam originations, so I use thatmethod now.

Hi BC, thanks for the reply. Do you have a link to that discussion you had? I'd 
like to know how y'all value greylisting in today's internet climate.

I installed spamdyke at the same time as enabling several other spamassasin 
network rules. The result is, our users are seeing far less spam. But with all 
the changes, it's hard to say what is providing the most benefit (and what 
isn't). We were using rblsmtpd before, so the blocklists aren't a new aspect. 

Perhaps I'lll leave greylisting enabled for another week, then turn it off and 
go another week and compare the metrics.

Quinn
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Re: [spamdyke-users] Avoiding greylisting delays by making many exceptions

2014-11-04 Thread Gary Gendel
I also remember this discussion but it was quite a while ago.  I had 
subsequently removed greylisting as well with no noticeable increase in 
spam.  I did add Sam's hunter_seeker script and it did make a 
difference.  However, I haven't seen any new websites added to that 
blocklist so I wonder whether that is as effective as it used to be.


On 11/04/2014 02:03 PM, BC wrote:


I don't have a link to the conversation, but I literally turned off 
greylisting and turned on using RBLs at the same time.


On 11/4/2014 11:56 AM, Quinn Comendant wrote:

On Tue, 04 Nov 2014 08:05:22 -0700, BC wrote:

At the suggestion of others here, I turned OFF greylisting last year,
after having used it for years before that.  My spam level didn't
increase one bit.  I think the RBL sites are pretty good at
identifying spam originations, so I use thatmethod now.

Hi BC, thanks for the reply. Do you have a link to that discussion you had? I'd 
like to know how y'all value greylisting in today's internet climate.

I installed spamdyke at the same time as enabling several other spamassasin 
network rules. The result is, our users are seeing far less spam. But with all 
the changes, it's hard to say what is providing the most benefit (and what 
isn't). We were using rblsmtpd before, so the blocklists aren't a new aspect.

Perhaps I'lll leave greylisting enabled for another week, then turn it off and 
go another week and compare the metrics.

Quinn





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Re: [spamdyke-users] Avoiding greylisting delays by making many exceptions

2014-11-04 Thread BC


... and I'm not using the hunter_seeker script here.

On 11/4/2014 12:15 PM, Gary Gendel wrote:
I also remember this discussion but it was quite a while ago.  I had 
subsequently removed greylisting as well with no noticeable increase 
in spam.  I did add Sam's hunter_seeker script and it did make a 
difference. However, I haven't seen any new websites added to that 
blocklist so I wonder whether that is as effective as it used to be.


On 11/04/2014 02:03 PM, BC wrote:


I don't have a link to the conversation, but I literally turned off 
greylisting and turned on using RBLs at the same time.


On 11/4/2014 11:56 AM, Quinn Comendant wrote:

On Tue, 04 Nov 2014 08:05:22 -0700, BC wrote:

At the suggestion of others here, I turned OFF greylisting last year,
after having used it for years before that.  My spam level didn't
increase one bit.  I think the RBL sites are pretty good at
identifying spam originations, so I use thatmethod now.

Hi BC, thanks for the reply. Do you have a link to that discussion you had? I'd 
like to know how y'all value greylisting in today's internet climate.

I installed spamdyke at the same time as enabling several other spamassasin 
network rules. The result is, our users are seeing far less spam. But with all 
the changes, it's hard to say what is providing the most benefit (and what 
isn't). We were using rblsmtpd before, so the blocklists aren't a new aspect.

Perhaps I'lll leave greylisting enabled for another week, then turn it off and 
go another week and compare the metrics.



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[spamdyke-users] broken hunter_seeker URL

2014-11-04 Thread Quinn Comendant
Sam,

The URLs for hunter_seeker and spamtrap you offered us in 2013 are broken:

  http://www.spamdyke.org/releases/hunter_seeker/
  http://www.spamdyke.org/releases/spamtrap/

Has this project moved?

And is this script still as effective as it was? I'd like to know its current 
status before implementing it.

Quinn
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