Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities migration status
Ed McNierney wrote: On the other hand, anyone working on Sugar efforts such as Activity development should be encouraged to put all those efforts under the Sugar Labs roof where they can be more readily available to the entire Sugar community (not just the OLPC portion of it). Then http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Project_hosting is obsolete. What's the equivalent page on sugarlabs.org? Parts of http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Creating_an_activity are also out-of-date. -- =S Page ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities migration status
On 10 Feb 2009, at 00:29, S Page wrote: Ed McNierney wrote: On the other hand, anyone working on Sugar efforts such as Activity development should be encouraged to put all those efforts under the Sugar Labs roof where they can be more readily available to the entire Sugar community (not just the OLPC portion of it). Then http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Project_hosting is obsolete. What's the equivalent page on sugarlabs.org? Try: http://git.sugarlabs.org/ Its running Gitorious, no need to request permissions/accounts. Parts of http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Creating_an_activity are also out-of-date. Personally I rely on source code and pydocs, but I know that doesn't work for all. I'll try and take a look at that page, before I do, any pointers at to bits you found out-of-date? Here's closest thing on SL, the almanac (migrated from laptop wiki) I find that useful: http://sugarlabs.org/go/ActivityTeam/Resources --Gary -- =S Page ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities migration status
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 01:29, S Page i...@skierpage.com wrote: Ed McNierney wrote: On the other hand, anyone working on Sugar efforts such as Activity development should be encouraged to put all those efforts under the Sugar Labs roof where they can be more readily available to the entire Sugar community (not just the OLPC portion of it). Then http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Project_hosting is obsolete. What's the equivalent page on sugarlabs.org? Parts of http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Creating_an_activity are also out-of-date. You have some information here: http://sugarlabs.org/go/ActivityTeam/How_to_migrate_from_OLPC Note that you don't need to ask permission to anyone in order to get a source repository created. Regards, Tomeu ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities migration status
Can someone create a project hosting page for new projects on the sl wiki? On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 01:29, S Page i...@skierpage.com wrote: Then http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Project_hosting is obsolete. What's the equivalent page on sugarlabs.org? Not obsolete; just missing an important piece of information. Parts of http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Creating_an_activity are also out-of-date. I would particularly like to see the Scope section of a hypothetical project hosting page on the sl wiki; at the moment it seems that non-sugar projects might not be welcome to host/mirror their work there. For instance, the SL mission is to produce, distribute, and support the use of the Sugar learning platform rather than, say, to directly 'reinvent how computers are used for education through collaboration, reflection, and discovery' [the latter taken from Sugar's founding goals]. Would projects focused on the same goals but not currently part of the Sugar-platform-roadmap be welcome? Note that you don't need to ask permission to anyone in order to get a source repository created. I like that part. Are there criteria for removing someone's project if it's deemed inappropriate? SJ Regards, Tomeu ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities migration status
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: I like that part. Are there criteria for removing someone's project if it's deemed inappropriate? Not yet, but I assume if someone thinks that somebody else's use of SL infrastrucutre is not under the project scope we'll discuss it on the sugar-devel or IAEP mailing list. -- Luke Faraone http://luke.faraone.cc ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities migration status
Is there no way to move/create an activity so that the same code push will update both sl's gitorious and olpc's git? Until there is a policy of sorts in place, and better yet an endowment supporting long-term maintenance of a server hosting projects (one of the two mentioned so far in this thread, or a dedicated project-hosting service elsewhere), I would focus on creating good mirrors, rather than on picking any particular single host. There is currently still risk of losing people's work. SJ On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Luke Faraone l...@faraone.cc wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: I like that part. Are there criteria for removing someone's project if it's deemed inappropriate? Not yet, but I assume if someone thinks that somebody else's use of SL infrastrucutre is not under the project scope we'll discuss it on the sugar-devel or IAEP mailing list. -- Luke Faraone http://luke.faraone.cc ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities migration status
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: Is there no way to move/create an activity so that the same code push will update both sl's gitorious and olpc's git? Until there is a policy of sorts in place, and better yet an endowment supporting long-term maintenance of a server hosting projects (one of the two mentioned so far in this thread, or a dedicated project-hosting service elsewhere), I would focus on creating good mirrors, rather than on picking any particular single host. There is currently still risk of losing people's work. While you wait for a best case scenario We will continue to move forward one step at a time. david SJ On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Luke Faraone l...@faraone.cc wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: I like that part. Are there criteria for removing someone's project if it's deemed inappropriate? Not yet, but I assume if someone thinks that somebody else's use of SL infrastrucutre is not under the project scope we'll discuss it on the sugar-devel or IAEP mailing list. -- Luke Faraone http://luke.faraone.cc ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities migration status
Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero wrote: Today I went through dev.laptop.org/git http://dev.laptop.org/git identifying those projects that contain Sugar activities. http://sugarlabs.org/go/ActivityTeam/ActivityStatus Still remaining is to go through Activities/All (and code.google.com http://code.google.com, personal sites, etc) and find those activities which do not have d.l.o repositories. The list is *massive*. I had no idea we had so many cool activities in various stages of development! I'm not sure what you're doing, but if you want activities... When the call went out for activities for 9.1.0 I put all the meta-lists of activities in http://wiki.laptop.org/go/9.1.0#Lists_of_possible_candidate_activities That links to some interesting queries in http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_queries : * 45 pages with a Devel status * 116 pages that appear to have an activity bundle * 310 pages in Category:Activities in the main namespace. and I'm sure there are more activities that lack a page on on wiki.laptop.org -- =S ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities migration status
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 6:05 AM, S Page i...@skierpage.com wrote: I'm not sure what you're doing, but if you want activities... When the call went out for activities for 9.1.0 I put all the meta-lists of activities in http://wiki.laptop.org/go/9.1.0#Lists_of_possible_candidate_activities That links to some interesting queries in http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_queries : * 45 pages with a Devel status * 116 pages that appear to have an activity bundle * 310 pages in Category:Activities in the main namespace. and I'm sure there are more activities that lack a page on on wiki.laptop.org Thanks, this is a great source of information. What we are trying to do is track down all the activities that have been written (or started) and then migrate them to SugarLabs infrastructure, with permission from their authors. At the same time we will encourage their authors to finish them, update them to work with recent builds, document them, make sure they can be packaged for non-XO distros, etc. -Wade -Wade ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities migration status
Wade: I'm an activity developer with my code at dev.laptop.org. I'm a bit confused about this migration. Is it necessary to change the location for some reason? Is dev.laptop.org going to be killed? I believe the Activity Team is a wonderful idea but would like to have this point clarified. Thanks, Gabriel 2009/1/14 Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 6:05 AM, S Page i...@skierpage.com wrote: I'm not sure what you're doing, but if you want activities... When the call went out for activities for 9.1.0 I put all the meta-lists of activities in http://wiki.laptop.org/go/9.1.0#Lists_of_possible_candidate_activities That links to some interesting queries in http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_queries : * 45 pages with a Devel status * 116 pages that appear to have an activity bundle * 310 pages in Category:Activities in the main namespace. and I'm sure there are more activities that lack a page on on wiki.laptop.org Thanks, this is a great source of information. What we are trying to do is track down all the activities that have been written (or started) and then migrate them to SugarLabs infrastructure, with permission from their authors. At the same time we will encourage their authors to finish them, update them to work with recent builds, document them, make sure they can be packaged for non-XO distros, etc. -Wade -Wade ___ Devel mailing list de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities migration status
Hi Wade Thanks to you..there are too many people excited about the activity team. i'll keep helping :). the work is indeed massive! Rafael Ortiz On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome, thank you Rafael! Today I went through dev.laptop.org/git identifying those projects that contain Sugar activities. http://sugarlabs.org/go/ActivityTeam/ActivityStatus Still remaining is to go through Activities/All (and code.google.com, personal sites, etc) and find those activities which do not have d.l.o repositories. The list is *massive*. I had no idea we had so many cool activities in various stages of development! The process of finding their authors and migrating them to SL will result in some great new software for Sugar. It will be a lot of work but I know the end result will be worth it. Best regards, Wade On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero dir...@gmail.com wrote: Hello I've followed the instructions on http://sugarlabs.org/go/ActivityTeam/How_to_migrate_from_OLPC to have bounce on gitorious. http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/bounce cheers!. Rafael Ortiz ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel