Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities migration status

2009-02-16 Thread S Page
Ed McNierney wrote:

 On the other hand, anyone working on Sugar efforts such as Activity  
 development should be encouraged to put all those efforts under the  
 Sugar Labs roof where they can be more readily available to the entire  
 Sugar community (not just the OLPC portion of it).

Then http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Project_hosting  is obsolete.  What's the 
equivalent page on sugarlabs.org?

Parts of http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Creating_an_activity are also 
out-of-date.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities migration status

2009-02-16 Thread Gary C Martin
On 10 Feb 2009, at 00:29, S Page wrote:

 Ed McNierney wrote:

 On the other hand, anyone working on Sugar efforts such as Activity
 development should be encouraged to put all those efforts under the
 Sugar Labs roof where they can be more readily available to the  
 entire
 Sugar community (not just the OLPC portion of it).

 Then http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Project_hosting  is obsolete.  What's  
 the
 equivalent page on sugarlabs.org?

Try:

http://git.sugarlabs.org/

Its running Gitorious, no need to request permissions/accounts.

 Parts of http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Creating_an_activity are also
 out-of-date.

Personally I rely on source code and pydocs, but I know that doesn't  
work for all. I'll try and take a look at that page, before I do, any  
pointers at to bits you found out-of-date? Here's closest thing on SL,  
the almanac (migrated from laptop wiki) I find that useful:

http://sugarlabs.org/go/ActivityTeam/Resources

--Gary

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities migration status

2009-02-11 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 01:29, S Page i...@skierpage.com wrote:
 Ed McNierney wrote:

 On the other hand, anyone working on Sugar efforts such as Activity
 development should be encouraged to put all those efforts under the
 Sugar Labs roof where they can be more readily available to the entire
 Sugar community (not just the OLPC portion of it).

 Then http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Project_hosting  is obsolete.  What's the
 equivalent page on sugarlabs.org?

 Parts of http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Creating_an_activity are also
 out-of-date.

You have some information here:
http://sugarlabs.org/go/ActivityTeam/How_to_migrate_from_OLPC

Note that you don't need to ask permission to anyone in order to get a
source repository created.

Regards,

Tomeu
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities migration status

2009-02-11 Thread Samuel Klein
Can someone create a project hosting page for new projects on the sl wiki?

On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 01:29, S Page i...@skierpage.com wrote:

 Then http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Project_hosting  is obsolete.  What's the
 equivalent page on sugarlabs.org?

Not obsolete; just missing an important piece of information.

 Parts of http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Creating_an_activity are also
 out-of-date.

I would particularly like to see the Scope section of a hypothetical
project hosting page on the sl wiki; at the moment it seems that
non-sugar projects might not be welcome to host/mirror their work
there.

For instance, the SL mission is to produce, distribute, and support
the use of the Sugar learning platform rather than, say, to directly
'reinvent how computers are used for education through collaboration,
reflection, and discovery' [the latter taken from Sugar's founding
goals].  Would projects focused on the same goals but not currently
part of the Sugar-platform-roadmap be welcome?


 Note that you don't need to ask permission to anyone in order to get a
 source repository created.

I like that part.  Are there criteria for removing someone's project
if it's deemed inappropriate?

SJ

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities migration status

2009-02-11 Thread Luke Faraone
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote:

 I like that part.  Are there criteria for removing someone's project
 if it's deemed inappropriate?


Not yet, but I assume if someone thinks that somebody else's use of SL
infrastrucutre is not under the project scope we'll discuss it on the
sugar-devel or IAEP mailing list.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities migration status

2009-02-11 Thread Samuel Klein
Is there no way to move/create an activity so that the same code push
will update both sl's gitorious and olpc's git?

Until there is a policy of sorts in place, and better yet an endowment
supporting long-term maintenance of a server hosting projects (one of
the two mentioned so far in this thread, or a dedicated
project-hosting service elsewhere), I would focus on creating good
mirrors, rather than on picking any particular single host.  There is
currently still risk of losing people's work.

SJ

On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Luke Faraone l...@faraone.cc wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote:

 I like that part.  Are there criteria for removing someone's project
 if it's deemed inappropriate?

 Not yet, but I assume if someone thinks that somebody else's use of SL
 infrastrucutre is not under the project scope we'll discuss it on the
 sugar-devel or IAEP mailing list.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities migration status

2009-02-11 Thread David Farning
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is there no way to move/create an activity so that the same code push
 will update both sl's gitorious and olpc's git?

 Until there is a policy of sorts in place, and better yet an endowment
 supporting long-term maintenance of a server hosting projects (one of
 the two mentioned so far in this thread, or a dedicated
 project-hosting service elsewhere), I would focus on creating good
 mirrors, rather than on picking any particular single host.  There is
 currently still risk of losing people's work.

While you wait for a best case scenario We will continue to move
forward one step at a time.

david

 SJ

 On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Luke Faraone l...@faraone.cc wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote:

 I like that part.  Are there criteria for removing someone's project
 if it's deemed inappropriate?

 Not yet, but I assume if someone thinks that somebody else's use of SL
 infrastrucutre is not under the project scope we'll discuss it on the
 sugar-devel or IAEP mailing list.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities migration status

2009-01-14 Thread S Page
Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero wrote:

 Today I went through dev.laptop.org/git http://dev.laptop.org/git
 identifying those projects
 that contain Sugar activities.
 
 http://sugarlabs.org/go/ActivityTeam/ActivityStatus
 
 Still remaining is to go through Activities/All (and code.google.com
 http://code.google.com,
 personal sites, etc) and find those activities which do not have d.l.o
 repositories.
 
 The list is *massive*.  I had no idea we had so many cool activities
 in various stages of development! 

I'm not sure what you're doing, but if you want activities...
When the call went out for activities for 9.1.0 I put all the meta-lists 
of activities in
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/9.1.0#Lists_of_possible_candidate_activities

That links to some interesting queries in 
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_queries  :
* 45 pages with a Devel status
* 116 pages that appear to have an activity bundle
* 310 pages in Category:Activities in the main namespace.

and I'm sure there are more activities that lack a page on on 
wiki.laptop.org

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities migration status

2009-01-14 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 6:05 AM, S Page i...@skierpage.com wrote:
 I'm not sure what you're doing, but if you want activities...
 When the call went out for activities for 9.1.0 I put all the meta-lists of
 activities in
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/9.1.0#Lists_of_possible_candidate_activities

 That links to some interesting queries in
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_queries  :
 * 45 pages with a Devel status
 * 116 pages that appear to have an activity bundle
 * 310 pages in Category:Activities in the main namespace.

 and I'm sure there are more activities that lack a page on on
 wiki.laptop.org

Thanks, this is a great source of information.

What we are trying to do is track down all the activities that have
been written (or started) and then migrate them to SugarLabs
infrastructure, with permission from their authors.  At the same time
we will encourage their authors to finish them, update them to work
with recent builds, document them, make sure they can be packaged for
non-XO distros, etc.

-Wade

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities migration status

2009-01-14 Thread Gabriel Eirea
Wade:

I'm an activity developer with my code at dev.laptop.org. I'm a bit
confused about this migration. Is it necessary to change the location
for some reason? Is dev.laptop.org going to be killed?

I believe the Activity Team is a wonderful idea but would like to have
this point clarified.

Thanks,

Gabriel


2009/1/14 Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com:
 On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 6:05 AM, S Page i...@skierpage.com wrote:
 I'm not sure what you're doing, but if you want activities...
 When the call went out for activities for 9.1.0 I put all the meta-lists of
 activities in
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/9.1.0#Lists_of_possible_candidate_activities

 That links to some interesting queries in
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_queries  :
 * 45 pages with a Devel status
 * 116 pages that appear to have an activity bundle
 * 310 pages in Category:Activities in the main namespace.

 and I'm sure there are more activities that lack a page on on
 wiki.laptop.org

 Thanks, this is a great source of information.

 What we are trying to do is track down all the activities that have
 been written (or started) and then migrate them to SugarLabs
 infrastructure, with permission from their authors.  At the same time
 we will encourage their authors to finish them, update them to work
 with recent builds, document them, make sure they can be packaged for
 non-XO distros, etc.

 -Wade

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities migration status

2009-01-13 Thread Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
Hi Wade

Thanks to you..there are too many people excited about the activity team.

i'll keep helping :). the work is indeed massive!


Rafael Ortiz


On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote:

 Awesome, thank you Rafael!

 Today I went through dev.laptop.org/git identifying those projects
 that contain Sugar activities.

 http://sugarlabs.org/go/ActivityTeam/ActivityStatus

 Still remaining is to go through Activities/All (and code.google.com,
 personal sites, etc) and find those activities which do not have d.l.o
 repositories.

 The list is *massive*.  I had no idea we had so many cool activities
 in various stages of development!  The process of finding their
 authors and migrating them to SL will result in some great new
 software for Sugar.  It will be a lot of work but I know the end
 result will be worth it.

 Best regards,
 Wade

 On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
 dir...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hello
 
  I've followed the instructions on
  http://sugarlabs.org/go/ActivityTeam/How_to_migrate_from_OLPC
 
  to have bounce on gitorious.
 
  http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/bounce
 
 
  cheers!.
  Rafael Ortiz
 
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