Re: Design of Cards for Campbell Stokes Sunshine Recorder

2014-04-19 Thread Tony Moss

 Hi Brooke,
 The cards have to be impregnated with a fireproofing solution 
or a mini bonfire may result.

Tony Moss

 

 

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To: Brooke Clarke bro...@pacific.net; Sundial Reflector sundial@uni-koeln.de
Sent: Sat, 19 Apr 2014 2:02
Subject: Re: Design of Cards for Campbell Stokes Sunshine Recorder


Brooke, I have a C-S sunshine recorder with slots in the arms for insert cards; 
the slots allow inserting the cards in two N-S positions. I have, I believe, 
two types of cards to fit my slots. I don't remember what each card type is 
meant for, however. The glass spherical ball is about 92 mm diameter. 
 
One card is 35.9 mm wide with straight sides; the other card is 30.18 mm wide 
with curved sides. Both cards have a blue face with white nomenclature; 
printing on the back is in German. 
 
If helpful, I could scan the cards. 
 
Larry 
 
On 4/18/2014 4:05 PM, Brooke Clarke wrote: 
 Hi: 
 
 I just got one of the Campbell Stokes Sunshine Recorders but it came 
 without any of the cards. 
 I'd like to make cards for Winter, Equinox and Summer seasons.  Is there 
 any information about doing that available 
 It appears that each of them has a different width probably so you use 
 the correct card in the correct slot. 
 Winter: 38mm, Equinox: 42 mm, Summer:  33mm 
 
 http://www.prc68.com/I/CampbellStokes.html 
 
 
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Re: Design of Cards for Campbell Stokes Sunshine Recorder

2014-04-19 Thread jmikeshaw
The fireproofing is saltpetre if I remember correctly.

Mike Shaw


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Re: Design of Cards for Campbell Stokes Sunshine Recorder

2014-04-19 Thread Douglas Bateman
I think Mike may have the wrong information. I can speak from personal 
(teenage) experience of making very good fireworks and soaking paper in 
saltpetre solution for the touch paper, which will then smoulder nicely. 
Saltpetre is one of the essential ingredients in gunpowder.

I suspect that there are other nitrogenous compounds that have fire prevention 
properties, but certainly not the nitrates!

Doug

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 The fireproofing is saltpetre if I remember correctly.
  
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Re: Design of Cards for Campbell Stokes Sunshine Recorder

2014-04-19 Thread jmikeshaw
Doug,

You’re right - my memory is failing.

See:  http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Fireproof-Paper

Mike


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Re: Design of Cards for Campbell Stokes Sunshine Recorder

2014-04-19 Thread John Lynes
There's a very full and well-illustrated description of the Campbell Stokes
sunshine recorder, with a reproduction of the equinoctial card in
Handbook of Meteorological Instruments, HMSO 1956, reprinted 1961.
This tells us, inter alia, that the cards are made from good quality paste
board, not ordinary paper.  The Meteorological Office specification lays
down that their length must not change by more than 0.01 inch after
immersion in water for 18 hours, and must not contract by more than 1 per
cent on redrying.
John Lynes


On 19 April 2014 00:27, Brooke Clarke bro...@pacific.net wrote:

 Hi:

 I just got one of the Campbell Stokes Sunshine Recorders but it came
 without any of the cards.
 I'd like to make cards for Winter, Equinox and Summer seasons.  Is there
 any information about doing that available
 It appears that each of them has a different width probably so you use the
 correct card in the correct slot.
 Winter: 38mm, Equinox: 42 mm, Summer:  33mm

 http://www.prc68.com/I/CampbellStokes.html

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 Brooke Clarke
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Re: Design of Cards for Campbell Stokes Sunshine Recorder

2014-04-19 Thread Tony Moss
I can't help adding that as youngsters we painted designs on paper using a 
strong saltpetre in a continuous line with a paper toy pistol 'cap' at the end 
of the trail.  When thoroughly dried and ignited at the start, the 'picture' 
appeared gradually with a small 'bang' on completion.  Happy days!

Tony M.

 

 

 

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tonylindi...@talktalk.net
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Subject: Re: Design of Cards for Campbell Stokes Sunshine Recorder


I think Mike may have the wrong information. I can speak from personal 
(teenage) experience of making very good fireworks and soaking paper in 
saltpetre solution for the touch paper, which will then smoulder nicely. 
Saltpetre is one of the essential ingredients in gunpowder.


I suspect that there are other nitrogenous compounds that have fire prevention 
properties, but certainly not the nitrates!


Doug


On 19 Apr 2014, at 11:25, jmikes...@ntlworld.com wrote:




The fireproofing is saltpetre if I remember correctly.
 
Mike Shaw


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Re: Design of Cards for Campbell Stokes Sunshine Recorder

2014-04-19 Thread rmallett

  
  
On 19/04/2014 14:40, Tony Moss wrote:

I can't help adding that as youngsters we painted
  designs on paper using a strong saltpetre in a continuous line
  with a paper toy pistol 'cap' at the end of the trail. When
  thoroughly dried and ignited at the start, the 'picture'
  appeared gradually with a small 'bang' on completion. Happy
  days!
  
  Tony M.


Do you realise that you have caused health and safety officers all
over the country to have heart attacks this weekend ?



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Re: Design of Cards for Campbell Stokes Sunshine Recorder

2014-04-18 Thread Larry McDavid
Brooke, I have a C-S sunshine recorder with slots in the arms for insert 
cards; the slots allow inserting the cards in two N-S positions. I have, 
I believe, two types of cards to fit my slots. I don't remember what 
each card type is meant for, however. The glass spherical ball is about 
92 mm diameter.


One card is 35.9 mm wide with straight sides; the other card is 30.18 mm 
wide with curved sides. Both cards have a blue face with white 
nomenclature; printing on the back is in German.


If helpful, I could scan the cards.

Larry


On 4/18/2014 4:05 PM, Brooke Clarke wrote:

Hi:

I just got one of the Campbell Stokes Sunshine Recorders but it came
without any of the cards.
I'd like to make cards for Winter, Equinox and Summer seasons.  Is there
any information about doing that available
It appears that each of them has a different width probably so you use
the correct card in the correct slot.
Winter: 38mm, Equinox: 42 mm, Summer:  33mm

http://www.prc68.com/I/CampbellStokes.html



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