Re: Sundials in museums

2016-01-22 Thread Karlheinz Schaldach
Dear Darek,
I am not sure about what you are looking for. There are about  100 museums in 
Europe with more than 20 sundials in their collection. And there are more with 
less, but also signifact dials.
Many museums have most part of their sundial collection  closed for the public, 
but you may get access if ask before.
What I want to say is that the list you present is quite nice and those are 
collections with really many dials but I till now I met only people who had 
time to travel through one or two countries, besides some Asian people.
Lets teke Ireland, for instance: there are 134 dials in various collections and 
about 200 fixed dials. Enough to visit for a 3-week-journey 
Best wishes
Karlheinz

From: dharani 
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 1:36 PM
To: sundial@uni-koeln.de 
Subject: Re: Sundials in museums

Hello


I would like to thank everyone who replied to my recent inquiry about sundial 
collections in museums.

This is what I compliled based on all the suggestions:


- The Conservatoire des Arts et Metiers (CNAM), Paris, France

- Musée du Louvre, Paris, France

- Harvard University Collection of Historical Scientific Instruments, USA

- Adler Planetarium, Chicago, USA

- The Przypkowski Museum, Jędrzejów, Poland

- The Jagiellonian University Museum, Kraków, Poland

- Wroclaw University Museum, Wrocław, Poland

- Museum of the History of Science, Cambridge, UK

- Royal Museums Greenwich, London, UK

- Museum of the History of Science, Oxford, UK

- Poldi Pezzoli Museum, Minan, Italy

- Nordiska museet, Stockholm, Sweden

- Musée de la Vie Wallonne, Liege, Belgium


As I do similar research in my country I know there is about 20 other museums 
in Poland having sundials in their collections but the instrument quantity is 
rather insignificant. 


Is there anything else one should consider while traveling? 


I guess the best thing to do would be a worldwide sundial museums database with 
all the necessery data, practical info, collection description, and photos of 
the dials. What do you think about this?


--

Best regards

Darek Oczki

52N 21E

Warsaw, Poland

GNOMONIKA.pl

Sundials in Poland

http://gnomonika.pl





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RE: Sundials in museums

2016-01-22 Thread Schechner, Sara
Another large collection, but in storage is that of the National Museum of 
American History, Smithsonian Institution, Washington, DC, USA.

As Karlheinz observed, there are fine but small collections in many locations, 
including archives, such as the David Eugene Smith Collection in the Columbia 
University Archives, New York.   Or the Mathematisch-Physikalischer Salon, 
Dresden.  Or the National Technical Museum<http://www.ntm.cz/>, Prague.  
Indeed, many of the museums on this list provided by the 
NAWCC<http://www.nawcc-index.net/Museums.php> would have sundials.


Sara J. Schechner
Altazimuth Arts
42°36'N   71° 22'W
West Newton, MA 02465
http://www.altazimutharts.com/

Sara J. Schechner, Ph.D.
David P. Wheatland Curator of the Collection of Historical Scientific 
Instruments
Lecturer on the History of Science
Department of the History of Science, Harvard University
Science Center 251c, 1 Oxford Street, Cambridge, MA 02138
Tel: 617-496-9542   |   Fax: 617-496-5932   |   
sche...@fas.harvard.edu<mailto:sche...@fas.harvard.edu>  | @SaraSchechner
http://scholar.harvard.edu/saraschechner
http://chsi.harvard.edu/




From: sundial [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de] On Behalf Of dharani
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:37 AM
To: sundial@uni-koeln.de
Subject: Re: Sundials in museums

Hello

I would like to thank everyone who replied to my recent inquiry about sundial 
collections in museums.
This is what I compliled based on all the suggestions:

- The Conservatoire des Arts et Metiers (CNAM), Paris, France
- Musée du Louvre, Paris, France
- Harvard University Collection of Historical Scientific Instruments, USA
- Adler Planetarium, Chicago, USA
- The Przypkowski Museum, Jędrzejów, Poland
- The Jagiellonian University Museum, Kraków, Poland
- Wroclaw University Museum, Wrocław, Poland
- Museum of the History of Science, Cambridge, UK
- Royal Museums Greenwich, London, UK
- Museum of the History of Science, Oxford, UK
- Poldi Pezzoli Museum, Minan, Italy
- Nordiska museet, Stockholm, Sweden
- Musée de la Vie Wallonne, Liege, Belgium

As I do similar research in my country I know there is about 20 other museums 
in Poland having sundials in their collections but the instrument quantity is 
rather insignificant.

Is there anything else one should consider while traveling?

I guess the best thing to do would be a worldwide sundial museums database with 
all the necessery data, practical info, collection description, and photos of 
the dials. What do you think about this?

--
Best regards
Darek Oczki
52N 21E
Warsaw, Poland
GNOMONIKA.pl
Sundials in Poland
http://gnomonika.pl

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Re: Sundials in museums

2016-01-22 Thread dharani
Hello  I would like to thank everyone who replied to my recent inquiry about 
sundial collections in museums.  This is what I compliled based on all the 
suggestions:  - The Conservatoire des Arts et Metiers (CNAM), Paris, France - 
Musée du Louvre, Paris, France - Harvard University Collection of Historical 
Scientific Instruments, USA - Adler Planetarium, Chicago, USA - The Przypkowski 
Museum, Jędrzejów, Poland - The Jagiellonian University Museum, Kraków, Poland 
- Wroclaw University Museum, Wrocław, Poland - Museum of the History of 
Science, Cambridge, UK - Royal Museums Greenwich, London, UK - Museum of the 
History of Science, Oxford, UK - Poldi Pezzoli Museum, Minan, Italy - Nordiska 
museet, Stockholm, Sweden - Musée de la Vie Wallonne, Liege, Belgium  As I do 
similar research in my country I know there is about 20 other museums in Poland 
having sundials in their
collections but the instrument quantity is rather insignificant.   Is there 
anything else one should consider while traveling?   I guess the best thing to 
do would be a worldwide sundial museums database with all the necessery data, 
practical info, collection description, and photos of the dials. What do you 
think about this?  -- Best regards Darek Oczki 52N 21E Warsaw, Poland 
GNOMONIKA.pl Sundials in Poland http://gnomonika.pl
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Re: Sundials in museums

2016-01-22 Thread Willy Leenders
Darek,

You have forgotten the the Deutsches Museum in München. There is a sundial 
garden on a 5th floor outside terrace, which is a showcase of all possible - 
modern - types.
Reported by Frans Maes on january 11.

Willy Leenders
Hasselt in Flanders (Belgium)

Visit my website about the sundials in the province of Limburg (Flanders) with 
a section 'worth knowing about sundials' (mostly in Dutch): 
http://www.wijzerweb.be



Op 22-jan-2016, om 13:36 heeft dharani het volgende geschreven:

> Hello
> 
> I would like to thank everyone who replied to my recent inquiry about sundial 
> collections in museums.
> This is what I compliled based on all the suggestions:
> 
> - The Conservatoire des Arts et Metiers (CNAM), Paris, France
> - Musée du Louvre, Paris, France
> - Harvard University Collection of Historical Scientific Instruments, USA
> - Adler Planetarium, Chicago, USA
> - The Przypkowski Museum, Jędrzejów, Poland
> - The Jagiellonian University Museum, Kraków, Poland
> - Wroclaw University Museum, Wrocław, Poland
> - Museum of the History of Science, Cambridge, UK
> - Royal Museums Greenwich, London, UK
> - Museum of the History of Science, Oxford, UK
> - Poldi Pezzoli Museum, Minan, Italy
> - Nordiska museet, Stockholm, Sweden
> - Musée de la Vie Wallonne, Liege, Belgium
> 
> As I do similar research in my country I know there is about 20 other museums 
> in Poland having sundials in their collections but the instrument quantity is 
> rather insignificant. 
> 
> Is there anything else one should consider while traveling? 
> 
> I guess the best thing to do would be a worldwide sundial museums database 
> with all the necessery data, practical info, collection description, and 
> photos of the dials. What do you think about this?
> 
> --
> Best regards
> Darek Oczki
> 52N 21E
> Warsaw, Poland
> GNOMONIKA.pl
> Sundials in Poland
> http://gnomonika.pl
> 
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Re: Sundials in museums

2016-01-11 Thread Douglas Bateman
I should have added Oxford in my last post!


> On 11 Jan 2016, at 21:30, Maes, F.W. <f.w.m...@rug.nl> wrote:
> 
> Hi Darek,
> 
> While in London/Greenwich, you should not miss the Science Museum. They have 
> a LOT of (mostly: pocket) sundials on display.
> 
> Another must-see is the Deutsches Museum in München. There is a sundial 
> garden on a 5th floor outside terrace, which is a showcase of all possible - 
> modern - types.
> 
> Enjoy!
> Frans Maes
> 
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 6:21 AM, Roger Bailey <rtbai...@telus.net 
> <mailto:rtbai...@telus.net>> wrote:
> Hi Darek,
> 
> Participating in NASS and BSS conferences over the past 20 some years has 
> provided the opportunity to some amazing collections of historical scientific 
> instrument. Here are a few that I have had the opportunity to visit , two in 
> the USA and two in the UK. All were worth the trip.
> 
> Harvard University Collection of Historical Scientific Instruments. 
> https://chsi.harvard.edu/index.html <https://chsi.harvard.edu/index.html>
> Contact Dr. Sara Schechner, the David P. Wheatland Curator of the Collection 
> of Historical Scientific Instruments
> 
> Adler Planetarium, Chicago  http://www.adlerplanetarium.org/ 
> <http://www.adlerplanetarium.org/> or specifically astronomy in culture 
> http://www.adlerplanetarium.org/events/astronomy-in-culture-2-2016-01-10/ 
> <http://www.adlerplanetarium.org/events/astronomy-in-culture-2-2016-01-10/>
> 
> Cambridge University, Museum of the History of Science. 
> http://www.hps.cam.ac.uk/whipple/ <http://www.hps.cam.ac.uk/whipple/> An 
> remarkable collection of sundials and astronomical instruments
> 
> Royal Museums Greenwich, Astronomical and navigational instruments. The 
> National Maritime Museum (NMM) holds a large and varied collection of 
> astronomical and navigational instruments, 3587 items. These range from 
> astrolabes and armillary spheres to quadrants, nocturnals and sundials. 
> http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections.html#!csearch;authority=subject-90227;browseBy=collection
>  
> <http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections.html#!csearch;authority=subject-90227;browseBy=collection>.
> 
> This is my short list. There are many others worth exploring.
> Regards, Roger Bailey
> 
> ------
> From: "Darek Oczki" <dhar...@o2.pl <mailto:dhar...@o2.pl>>
> Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 4:54 AM
> To: <sundial@uni-koeln.de <mailto:sundial@uni-koeln.de>>
> Subject: Sundials in museums
> 
> Hello
> I wish everyone on this list plenty of sunshine in the 2016.
> 
> I've got a question. Is there a list/register of sundial collections in 
> museums arround the world? I would like to ask your advise which ones are 
> worth visiting.
> 
> During Christmas I was in Milano, Italy and as they were open I visited the 
> Poldi Pezzoli Museum to see what sundials they got. I found out they have a 
> very nice collection consisting of 200 pieces of all kinds of portable 
> sundials including a Navicula and 2 canon dials. I took a lot of photos.
> 
> What other places would you recommend?
> 
> --
> Best regards
> Darek Oczki
> 52N 21E
> Warsaw, Poland
> GNOMONIKA.pl
> Sundials in Poland
> http://gnomonika.pl <http://gnomonika.pl/>
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Re: Sundials in museums

2016-01-11 Thread Douglas Bateman
The Museum of the History of Science must surely be high on the list. It has a 
fully representative collection of sundials, amongst other artifacts, of course.

http://www.mhs.ox.ac.uk

Best wishes, Doug

> On 11 Jan 2016, at 21:30, Maes, F.W. <f.w.m...@rug.nl> wrote:
> 
> Hi Darek,
> 
> While in London/Greenwich, you should not miss the Science Museum. They have 
> a LOT of (mostly: pocket) sundials on display.
> 
> Another must-see is the Deutsches Museum in München. There is a sundial 
> garden on a 5th floor outside terrace, which is a showcase of all possible - 
> modern - types.
> 
> Enjoy!
> Frans Maes
> 
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 6:21 AM, Roger Bailey <rtbai...@telus.net 
> <mailto:rtbai...@telus.net>> wrote:
> Hi Darek,
> 
> Participating in NASS and BSS conferences over the past 20 some years has 
> provided the opportunity to some amazing collections of historical scientific 
> instrument. Here are a few that I have had the opportunity to visit , two in 
> the USA and two in the UK. All were worth the trip.
> 
> Harvard University Collection of Historical Scientific Instruments. 
> https://chsi.harvard.edu/index.html <https://chsi.harvard.edu/index.html>
> Contact Dr. Sara Schechner, the David P. Wheatland Curator of the Collection 
> of Historical Scientific Instruments
> 
> Adler Planetarium, Chicago  http://www.adlerplanetarium.org/ 
> <http://www.adlerplanetarium.org/> or specifically astronomy in culture 
> http://www.adlerplanetarium.org/events/astronomy-in-culture-2-2016-01-10/ 
> <http://www.adlerplanetarium.org/events/astronomy-in-culture-2-2016-01-10/>
> 
> Cambridge University, Museum of the History of Science. 
> http://www.hps.cam.ac.uk/whipple/ <http://www.hps.cam.ac.uk/whipple/> An 
> remarkable collection of sundials and astronomical instruments
> 
> Royal Museums Greenwich, Astronomical and navigational instruments. The 
> National Maritime Museum (NMM) holds a large and varied collection of 
> astronomical and navigational instruments, 3587 items. These range from 
> astrolabes and armillary spheres to quadrants, nocturnals and sundials. 
> http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections.html#!csearch;authority=subject-90227;browseBy=collection
>  
> <http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections.html#!csearch;authority=subject-90227;browseBy=collection>.
> 
> This is my short list. There are many others worth exploring.
> Regards, Roger Bailey
> 
> ------
> From: "Darek Oczki" <dhar...@o2.pl <mailto:dhar...@o2.pl>>
> Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 4:54 AM
> To: <sundial@uni-koeln.de <mailto:sundial@uni-koeln.de>>
> Subject: Sundials in museums
> 
> Hello
> I wish everyone on this list plenty of sunshine in the 2016.
> 
> I've got a question. Is there a list/register of sundial collections in 
> museums arround the world? I would like to ask your advise which ones are 
> worth visiting.
> 
> During Christmas I was in Milano, Italy and as they were open I visited the 
> Poldi Pezzoli Museum to see what sundials they got. I found out they have a 
> very nice collection consisting of 200 pieces of all kinds of portable 
> sundials including a Navicula and 2 canon dials. I took a lot of photos.
> 
> What other places would you recommend?
> 
> --
> Best regards
> Darek Oczki
> 52N 21E
> Warsaw, Poland
> GNOMONIKA.pl
> Sundials in Poland
> http://gnomonika.pl <http://gnomonika.pl/>
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Re: Sundials in museums

2016-01-11 Thread Maes, F.W.
Hi Darek,

While in London/Greenwich, you should not miss the Science Museum. They
have a LOT of (mostly: pocket) sundials on display.

Another must-see is the Deutsches Museum in München. There is a sundial
garden on a 5th floor outside terrace, which is a showcase of all possible
- modern - types.

Enjoy!
Frans Maes

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 6:21 AM, Roger Bailey <rtbai...@telus.net> wrote:

> Hi Darek,
>
> Participating in NASS and BSS conferences over the past 20 some years has
> provided the opportunity to some amazing collections of historical
> scientific instrument. Here are a few that I have had the opportunity to
> visit , two in the USA and two in the UK. All were worth the trip.
>
> Harvard University Collection of Historical Scientific Instruments.
> https://chsi.harvard.edu/index.html
> Contact Dr. Sara Schechner, the David P. Wheatland Curator of the
> Collection of Historical Scientific Instruments
>
> Adler Planetarium, Chicago  http://www.adlerplanetarium.org/ or
> specifically astronomy in culture
> http://www.adlerplanetarium.org/events/astronomy-in-culture-2-2016-01-10/
>
> Cambridge University, Museum of the History of Science.
> http://www.hps.cam.ac.uk/whipple/ An remarkable collection of sundials
> and astronomical instruments
>
> Royal Museums Greenwich, Astronomical and navigational instruments. The
> National Maritime Museum (NMM) holds a large and varied collection of
> astronomical and navigational instruments, 3587 items. These range from
> astrolabes and armillary spheres to quadrants, nocturnals and sundials.
> http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections.html#!csearch;authority=subject-90227;browseBy=collection
> .
>
> This is my short list. There are many others worth exploring.
> Regards, Roger Bailey
>
> --
> From: "Darek Oczki" <dhar...@o2.pl>
> Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 4:54 AM
> To: <sundial@uni-koeln.de>
> Subject: Sundials in museums
>
> Hello
>> I wish everyone on this list plenty of sunshine in the 2016.
>>
>> I've got a question. Is there a list/register of sundial collections in
>> museums arround the world? I would like to ask your advise which ones are
>> worth visiting.
>>
>> During Christmas I was in Milano, Italy and as they were open I visited
>> the Poldi Pezzoli Museum to see what sundials they got. I found out they
>> have a very nice collection consisting of 200 pieces of all kinds of
>> portable sundials including a Navicula and 2 canon dials. I took a lot of
>> photos.
>>
>> What other places would you recommend?
>>
>> --
>> Best regards
>> Darek Oczki
>> 52N 21E
>> Warsaw, Poland
>> GNOMONIKA.pl
>> Sundials in Poland
>> http://gnomonika.pl
>> ---
>> https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
>>
>>
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Re: Sundials in museums

2016-01-10 Thread Roger Bailey

Hi Darek,

Participating in NASS and BSS conferences over the past 20 some years has 
provided the opportunity to some amazing collections of historical 
scientific instrument. Here are a few that I have had the opportunity to 
visit , two in the USA and two in the UK. All were worth the trip.


Harvard University Collection of Historical Scientific Instruments. 
https://chsi.harvard.edu/index.html
Contact Dr. Sara Schechner, the David P. Wheatland Curator of the Collection 
of Historical Scientific Instruments


Adler Planetarium, Chicago  http://www.adlerplanetarium.org/ or specifically 
astronomy in culture 
http://www.adlerplanetarium.org/events/astronomy-in-culture-2-2016-01-10/


Cambridge University, Museum of the History of Science. 
http://www.hps.cam.ac.uk/whipple/ An remarkable collection of sundials and 
astronomical instruments


Royal Museums Greenwich, Astronomical and navigational instruments. The 
National Maritime Museum (NMM) holds a large and varied collection of 
astronomical and navigational instruments, 3587 items. These range from 
astrolabes and armillary spheres to quadrants, nocturnals and sundials. 
http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections.html#!csearch;authority=subject-90227;browseBy=collection.


This is my short list. There are many others worth exploring.
Regards, Roger Bailey

--
From: "Darek Oczki" <dhar...@o2.pl>
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 4:54 AM
To: <sundial@uni-koeln.de>
Subject: Sundials in museums


Hello
I wish everyone on this list plenty of sunshine in the 2016.

I've got a question. Is there a list/register of sundial collections in 
museums arround the world? I would like to ask your advise which ones are 
worth visiting.


During Christmas I was in Milano, Italy and as they were open I visited 
the Poldi Pezzoli Museum to see what sundials they got. I found out they 
have a very nice collection consisting of 200 pieces of all kinds of 
portable sundials including a Navicula and 2 canon dials. I took a lot of 
photos.


What other places would you recommend?

--
Best regards
Darek Oczki
52N 21E
Warsaw, Poland
GNOMONIKA.pl
Sundials in Poland
http://gnomonika.pl
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Sundials in museums

2016-01-09 Thread Darek Oczki
Hello
I wish everyone on this list plenty of sunshine in the 2016.

I've got a question. Is there a list/register of sundial collections in museums 
arround the world? I would like to ask your advise which ones are worth 
visiting.

During Christmas I was in Milano, Italy and as they were open I visited the 
Poldi Pezzoli Museum to see what sundials they got. I found out they have a 
very nice collection consisting of 200 pieces of all kinds of portable sundials 
including a Navicula and 2 canon dials. I took a lot of photos. 

What other places would you recommend?

--
Best regards
Darek Oczki
52N 21E
Warsaw, Poland
GNOMONIKA.pl
Sundials in Poland
http://gnomonika.pl
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Re: Sundials in museums (world-wide)

2011-06-24 Thread Marvin Bolt
Dariusz,

You can look up the Adler's sundials at
http://www.adlerplanetarium.org/4dlink/
and enter sundial to come up with 465 entries. 

We hope to have a better database and interface in the near future, as well as 
much more information about the sundials.

Marvin Bolt
Adjunct Professor, History and Philosophy of Science
University of Notre Dame

Director, Webster Institute for the History of Astronomy
Vice President for Collections
Adler Planetarium  Astronomy Museum
Chicago, IL



On Jun 2, 2011, at 6:33 AM, Dariusz Oczki wrote:

 Dear Diallists
 
 I am sure many of you have heard about a sundial collection in Jędrzejów 
 (Jedrzejow), Poland which can be seen in the Przypkowski Museum. There is one 
 information repeated for many years about the collection which I would like 
 to confirm or update. It says the Jędrzejów sundial collection is the third 
 biggest in the world after those in Chicago and Oxford. Now, I've got two 
 questions:
 
 1. Could anyone provide the numbers of sundial they have (ie. museums in 
 Chicago and Oxford)?
 2. Are there any other big sundial collections exceeding 400 pieces?
 
 In the late 70. this info could be true but as the Jędrzejów collection is no 
 longer expanding the situatian could dramaticaly change. All I need is to 
 find out the present score and if necessery update the info in our local 
 media. I would be very gratefull for the exact numbers. A curator from the 
 Przypkowski Museum already gave me the real number of sundials in Jędrzejów 
 (457 amongst 677 all kinds of astronomical instruments).
 
 -- 
 Best regards
 Darek Oczki
 52N 21E
 Warsaw, Poland
 
 GNOMONIKA.pl
 Sundials in Poland
 http://gnomonika.pl
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Sundials in museums (world-wide)

2011-06-02 Thread Dariusz Oczki
Dear Diallists

I am sure many of you have heard about a sundial collection in Jędrzejów 
(Jedrzejow), Poland which can be seen in the Przypkowski Museum. There is one 
information repeated for many years about the collection which I would like to 
confirm or update. It says the Jędrzejów sundial collection is the third 
biggest in the world after those in Chicago and Oxford. Now, I've got two 
questions:

1. Could anyone provide the numbers of sundial they have (ie. museums in 
Chicago and Oxford)?
2. Are there any other big sundial collections exceeding 400 pieces?

In the late 70. this info could be true but as the Jędrzejów collection is no 
longer expanding the situatian could dramaticaly change. All I need is to find 
out the present score and if necessery update the info in our local media. I 
would be very gratefull for the exact numbers. A curator from the Przypkowski 
Museum already gave me the real number of sundials in Jędrzejów (457 amongst 
677 all kinds of astronomical instruments).

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Best regards
Darek Oczki
52N 21E
Warsaw, Poland

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RE: Sundials in museums (world-wide)

2011-06-02 Thread Schechner, Sara
I am currently completing a catalogue of the sundials at the Adler Planetarium 
in Chicago, having at an earlier stage in my career been the chief curator of 
the instrument collection there.  I am now the curator of Harvard's Collection 
of Historical Scientific Instruments, which has what we think is the largest 
collection of sundials in North America.  I am also cataloguing this 
collection.  Another large sundial collection with close to 400 items is that 
of the National Maritime Museum in Greenwich, England.

But before one considers numbers, we must decide what counts as a sundial.  Are 
we including other time finding instruments in these collections such as 
astronomical compendia, horary quadrants, de Rojas astrolabes and other 
astrolabic instruments (on their own or built into compendia)--all of which use 
the sun to find time?  What about nocturnals (which use the stars, but are 
often considered part of sundial collections)?  What about clocks with sundials 
built into them for setting the timekeeper?

If you tell me what's in and what's out, I'll give you numbers I know at this 
time.  But please be aware that these collections are still growing.

Sara


Sara J. Schechner, Ph.D. 
David P. Wheatland Curator of the Collection of Historical Scientific 
Instruments
Department of the History of Science, Harvard University
Science Center 251c, 1 Oxford Street, Cambridge, MA 02138
Tel: 617-496-9542   |   Fax: 617-496-5932   |   sche...@fas.harvard.edu
http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~hsdept/chsi.html



-Original Message-
From: sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de] On 
Behalf Of Dariusz Oczki
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 6:33 AM
To: sundial@uni-koeln.de
Subject: Sundials in museums (world-wide)

Dear Diallists

I am sure many of you have heard about a sundial collection in Jędrzejów 
(Jedrzejow), Poland which can be seen in the Przypkowski Museum. There is one 
information repeated for many years about the collection which I would like to 
confirm or update. It says the Jędrzejów sundial collection is the third 
biggest in the world after those in Chicago and Oxford. Now, I've got two 
questions:

1. Could anyone provide the numbers of sundial they have (ie. museums in 
Chicago and Oxford)?
2. Are there any other big sundial collections exceeding 400 pieces?

In the late 70. this info could be true but as the Jędrzejów collection is no 
longer expanding the situatian could dramaticaly change. All I need is to find 
out the present score and if necessery update the info in our local media. I 
would be very gratefull for the exact numbers. A curator from the Przypkowski 
Museum already gave me the real number of sundials in Jędrzejów (457 amongst 
677 all kinds of astronomical instruments).

-- 
Best regards
Darek Oczki
52N 21E
Warsaw, Poland

GNOMONIKA.pl
Sundials in Poland
http://gnomonika.pl
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Fwd: Sundials in museums (world-wide)

2011-06-02 Thread John Schilke

Dear Dariusz and Diallists,

Concerning your note about the museum in Jędrzejów, Poland.\:
I had the splendid opportunity to visit the museum in 2001.  I was  
told there that it had, indeed, the 3rd largest collection in the  
world, but no actual numbers (nor criteria for counting) were  
available -- the guide didn't know them.  I would be greatly  
interested in learning more, too.

Best wishes,!

John Schilke, MD
jfs...@ipinc.net
122.65 W, 45.4 N




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