Re: [Biofuel] A problem with WVO
Any suggestions ? Conduct a series of bracket titrations and/or move towards the acid/base process. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 9:54 AM Subject: [Biofuel] A problem with WVO Hello brothers and sisters. I have been making my own bio for about three years and have been very successful with it. I HAVE had some great failures such as filter clogging raw fat in the fuel, gertting it in the tank while some Glycerine was still separating - MORE clogged filters, but have learned so much that i now give free seminars and have about 50 people now brewing their own. So my problem is this: I have a restaurant that gives me about 20 gallons a week of Canola oil that they have cooked french fries and hot dogs in. Never too dirty, but quite dark. I have had BAD results with this stuff. I titrate and it always needs to have an excessive amount of lye added and when I do, I get a solid MESS. I have even tried to make various half litre batches with the same results - an almost solid block of GLOP. Now, i have added perhaps uip to 20% of this oil in with my more common crappy soy oil and THEN it works OK. Any suggestions ? Kitch in Az 99 Golf diesel 82 Vanny camper diesel 82 Vanny diesel grease getter Small diesels driving truck alternators backing up solar power ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Bad news for Diesel driver
Mercedes-Benz, Volkswagen, and Volvo had more than their fair share of problems. Only Audi came out better than average, Consumers report to be published next week doesn't rate this years Mercedes and Volkswagens as being very reliable vehicles. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Bad news for Diesel driver
like the beginning of an urban legand, doesn't it?) as saying that new MB's are coming to get things fixed at 30k miles that shouldn't need fixing until 200k miles. He doesn't recommend the newer ones either. But those old ones just keep on going... Chris Kueny '85 300TD Cayce, SC Mercedes-Benz, Volkswagen, and Volvo had more than their fair share of problems. Only Audi came out better than average, Consumers report to be published next week doesn't rate this years Mercedes and Volkswagens as being very reliable vehicles. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Social technolgy and social netwoking :The road map of the sucess story
Hello Keith and our beloved members Our small research group needs to elaborate a project proposal to submit to one of the biggest Media group in Brasil.Even though, we are involved in the biofuel and biomass energy project , we are not able to have the road map for this project. Any help in this regard of any information will be highly appreciated. What we find in the Internet about social networking are getting the people (younger) together to make good friendship, which is made possible by google new project in this field of social networking. However what we need are how to make networking to include the poor and also how to community based networking for village and local development. Keith as man of the media with very long experience , as we all do in this list are doing networking too can surely help us to make this road map as well as the hardware and software needed.Can free call center can be used to make this social networking for community developments.New ideas , thinking are very welcome. Thanking you Yours truly Pannirselvam P.V -- Pagandai V Pannirselvam Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Norte - UFRN Departamento de Engenharia Qumica - DEQ Centro de Tecnologia - CT Programa de Ps Graduao em Engenharia Qumica - PPGEQ Grupo de Pesquisa em Engenharia de Custos - GPEC Av. Senador Salgado Filho, Campus Universitrio CEP 59.072-970 , Natal/RN - Brasil Residence : Av Odilon gome de lima, 2951, Q6/Bl.G/Apt 102 Capim Macio EP 59.078-400 , Natal/RN - Brasil Telefone(fax) ( 84 ) 215-3770 Ramal20 2171557 Telefone(fax) ( 84 ) 215-3770 Ramal20 2171557 ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] US Fuel Efficiency Truth-in-Advertising Act
difficulty in achieving rated fuel economy and I see no need to go on crusade about it.. Pretty much just live what works and make whatever contributions that I can within my sphere of influence. Not much more to life than that. Whether others choose to think about how a car can be driven fuel efficiently is largely out of my control and not worth much more than the initial bother. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: B. Nostrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 12:07 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] US Fuel Efficiency Truth-in-Advertising Act good luck with this. i'm done. rbury - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 9:53 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] US Fuel Efficiency Truth-in-Advertising Act I believe this pretty well sums a lot up... i drive a 'safe' speed as determined by the speed limits and the flow of traffic at the time. safety trumps gas mileage for me and i've seen plenty of old folks in buicks driving slow (and i'm sure getting great gas mileage) and ultimately being the cause of accidents they so determinedly attempt to avoid. in portland You let the flow of traffic and a rectangular black and white sign dictate how you should drive, rather than you - the driver - exercising fair and somewhat uncommon sense? Safety trumps gas mileage? Since when can't a person have both? Faster doesn't mean safer, or at least not in the absolutist manner that you're somewhat implying. And old folks in buicks driving slow is one heuckuva lame excuse and disproportionally overblown stereotypical (un)rantionale for not exercising prudent sense in the achievement of good fuel economy. I reckon young folks don't drive buicks, cause accidents or drive questionably either? If you're eyes in in such a state that you can't see a slower moving buick in front of you, then don't you think that you ought to be first in line at the vision counter? Most blue hairs I know have better driving habits than two thirds of the driving population. Maybe they know something that most young folks don't yet? As for traffic light timing? You misread what I wrote, which was for the driver to time traffic lights. Funny thing about traffic lights and cars stopped at them. You can't go any faster than they do. Makes a fair bit of sense to keep the car rolling as best as possible until they start moving, rather than coming to a complete stop and burning extra fuel on another takeoff. Funny thing about clutches. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: B. Nostrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] US Fuel Efficiency Truth-in-Advertising Act lets get specific! i don't accelerate to a stop. i try and accelerate as gently and gradually as the vehicle allows (given its' propensity to lunge, due to the lack of sensitivity in the sender.) i leave plenty of space between myself and vehicles in front of me. it's absolutely true about braking points but i drive a 'safe' speed as determined by the speed limits and the flow of traffic at the time. safety trumps gas mileage for me and i've seen plenty of old folks in buicks driving slow (and i'm sure getting great gas mileage) and ultimately being the cause of accidents they so determinedly attempt to avoid. in portland, or. where i live the lack of accurately timed traffic lights is a frustration! they can't seem to get they're act together and time the lights to the speed limit. that presents itself as an unremediable problem (unfortunately.) the vehicle, ultimately is very heavy. start and stop traffic in a city of this size is unavoidable. mileage improves a bit when service stations remove the smog prevention additives in the summer (from 13-15mpg to 15-17mpg.) not much can be done about all the hills that have to be climbed here. our absolute best mileage on the highway was just under 22mpg coming down the east side of the mountains out of yosemite. our worst is right around 13 mpg with all city driving and no freeway mixed in whatsoever. the vehicle just weighs to much to be very efficient around town. our old 86 westfalia averaged 17 in town and around 20 mpg loaded and on the highway. i expected mileage to be better with the eurovan. it isn't, but i'm still not displeased with the purchase. it offers a diversity of amenities unavailable in any other vehicle currently being produced (oh i forgot, VW no longer imports it to the U.S.) how about that all wheel drive 6 speed tdi diesel T5 everyone's been talking about? now you've got my attention! rbury - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] US Fuel Efficiency Truth-in-Advertising Act i guess i must be one of those whinners
Re: [Biofuel] Latest Consumer Reports
West at 55mph. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] A problem with WVO
Hello. I think that both the FFA content and water content are too high in that oil. The water content is the worst enemy for a good trans-etherification. Try this : Put the oil in a vessel at 70oC for 24 hrs. The water may form a separate phase at the bottom of the vessel. Check the water content. ExxonMobile sells a nice kit called Mobil water test. The active chemical compound in this is calciumdihydride. It is a reliable method. Do not try to transesterify again until the water content is around 0,5%. And- watch out for any remaining detergents in the oil ! Jan Warnqvist AGERATEC AB [EMAIL PROTECTED] + 46 554 201 89 +46 70 499 38 45 - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 1:25 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] A problem with WVO Kitch, Any suggestions ? Conduct a series of bracket titrations and/or move towards the acid/base process. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 9:54 AM Subject: [Biofuel] A problem with WVO Hello brothers and sisters. I have been making my own bio for about three years and have been very successful with it. I HAVE had some great failures such as filter clogging raw fat in the fuel, gertting it in the tank while some Glycerine was still separating - MORE clogged filters, but have learned so much that i now give free seminars and have about 50 people now brewing their own. So my problem is this: I have a restaurant that gives me about 20 gallons a week of Canola oil that they have cooked french fries and hot dogs in. Never too dirty, but quite dark. I have had BAD results with this stuff. I titrate and it always needs to have an excessive amount of lye added and when I do, I get a solid MESS. I have even tried to make various half litre batches with the same results - an almost solid block of GLOP. Now, i have added perhaps uip to 20% of this oil in with my more common crappy soy oil and THEN it works OK. Any suggestions ? Kitch in Az 99 Golf diesel 82 Vanny camper diesel 82 Vanny diesel grease getter Small diesels driving truck alternators backing up solar power ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
RE: [Biofuel] oscillatory flow reactor
Dear Sirs, I am also student in university I am interested on OFR? How can I get contact with people to help me? Regard ccm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nayer Sultana Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 10:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Biofuel] oscillatory flow reactor i am a final year student of chemical engineering (BUET). i am doing a design project on making biodiesel from used vegetable oil. designing an oscillatory flow reactor is a part of my project but i dont have any information abt the design considerations for OFR. i have to design an industrial scale reactor in detail so a guideline to OFR designing would be very helpfull. as i am just an undergrad student i know very little abt reactor designing and i am seriously in need of help thanks nayer _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Conversion of Diesel Engine for wood and biogas
See below http://www.iitd.ac.in/cgi-bin/nph-p/http/10.116.2.57/tech/details.asp?id=207 Conversion of Diesel Engine Into Spark Ignition Operation Contact Sengupta IIT delhi for producer gas can also work for biogas developed by: Subrahmanyam J P Dr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gaur R R Professor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Department/Centre Mechanical Engineering Mechanical Engineering Description: Kit for converting a diesel engine into spark ignition mode. Abstract: The aim of this project work is to provide a kit to convert a 18 hp Eicher make diesel engine to operate on producer gas in the spark ignition mode. The single cylinder air cooled engine was accordingly converted to operate on producer gas. A complete set of instructions regarding the design and selection of the various components like gasifier, gas carburetor, governor control mechanism, ignition system and reduction of compression ratio have also been provided. Special Features: Consists of electrical ignition system; reduction in compression ratio; Prospective Users: Automotive, Rural Keywords: Spark ignition, compression ratio, kit Type of Technology: Product Status of IPR Protection: None 1 For further informatiom, Please contact directly the faculty member/inventor under intimation to Managing Director, FITT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] A problem with WVO
Quoting Jan Warnqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello. I think that both the FFA content and water content are too high in that oil. The water content is the worst enemy for a good trans-etherification. Try this : Put the oil in a vessel at 70oC for 24 hrs. The water may form a separate phase at the bottom of the vessel. Check the water content. ExxonMobile sells a nice kit called Mobil water test. The active chemical compound in this is calciumdihydride. It is a reliable method. Do not try to transesterify again until the water content is around 0,5%. And- watch out for any remaining detergents in the oil ! Jan Warnqvist AGERATEC AB [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Jan, I think my main problem is too much free fat in the oil. If I add 20-25% of it to my other soy oil that is little used for only two days at a street fair, then it converts really well, as the overall free fat content of the blended batch is low enough to work with just a one step lye/meth conversion. SO, I am going to move to a two step acid/meth-lye program with it. Watr saeems not to be a big issur here in the desert, but since you guys warned me, I'll sure check for it!! Thanks again SO MUCH and let's keep working to save our country from those that run it!! kitch in Az. - FastQ Communications Providing Innovative Internet Solutions Since 1993 ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] freezer test
50%, 33%, and a 20% blend. At -20c the 50% got thick but didn't solidify or sepparate, and the other two were ok. Are these results consistant with what is expected from a good home brew fuel? Brent Saskatchewan Canada 91 GMC 6.2 ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] oscillatory flow reactor
Hello ccm, Here is a link to the University of Cambridge, Department of Chemical Engineering's site titled Oscillatory Flow Mixing. http://www.cheng.cam.ac.uk/research/groups/polymer/OFM/ The front page shows this site to have been updated as recently as December 2004. This information, specifically oscillatory flow mixing, and the link to the site I quoted above, are both already contained within the Journey To Forever website under the Continuous reactors header, on the Biodiesel processors page. As far as being able to put you in contact with living, breathing, carbon-based life forms to assist you in your project...my only suggestion would be to: 1) go through this site diligently, and use any contact us links you find, and 2) get in touch with the individual whose email you attached your post to when you posted your message to the list. Since the both of you are doing similar, if not the same project, you should be able to help one another out. Best of luck, AntiFossil Mike Krafka USA A sign seen recently in a non-smoking area: If we see smoke, we will assume you are on fire and take appropriate action. Why do people pay to go up tall buildings and then put money in binoculars to look at things on the ground? - Original Message - From: ccm [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 5:23 AM Subject: RE: [Biofuel] oscillatory flow reactor Dear Sirs, I am also student in university I am interested on OFR? How can I get contact with people to help me? Regard ccm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nayer Sultana Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 10:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Biofuel] oscillatory flow reactor i am a final year student of chemical engineering (BUET). i am doing a design project on making biodiesel from used vegetable oil. designing an oscillatory flow reactor is a part of my project but i dont have any information abt the design considerations for OFR. i have to design an industrial scale reactor in detail so a guideline to OFR designing would be very helpfull. as i am just an undergrad student i know very little abt reactor designing and i am seriously in need of help thanks nayer _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Latest Consumer Reports
West at 55mph. Who hasn't? And what makes you think something such as this is so obvious? - Original Message - From: Chris Chuck McGuire [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Latest Consumer Reports Obviously you have never had to travel any significant distance in the West at 55mph. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 3/4/2005 ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Bad news for Diesel driver
of new diesel vehicles, i'd like to ask a general question. I'd like to purchase a diesel vehicle, as my next, and wonder what my choices are. It will need to be used, but perhaps new enough so that fuel lines and other compnents wont need to be changed . I think the idea of a camper van that someone mentioned sounds great. Is that a vw? what years would be good? Any suggestions ,for a 2-3 thou$ car (or van or truck) that is dependable, gets good milage, and is easy enough to work on , would be appreciated. - Original Message -thanks in advance, jon forster From: John Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 8:11 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Bad news for Diesel driver Mercedes-Benz, Volkswagen, and Volvo had more than their fair share of problems. Only Audi came out better than average, Consumers report to be published next week doesn't rate this years Mercedes and Volkswagens as being very reliable vehicles. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] successfull two stage base
I successfully pulled off Aleks Kac's two stage base process (eight gal batch) and an elementary form of methanol recovery last night. Granted the oil I started with was almost virgin oil, it titrated out at 1/4 ML requiring only 3.75G per liter, normally you don't titrate for this process but I knew that it wasn't going to take very much naoh. Jeremy ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Bad news for Diesel driver
For what's on the menu, see: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_UScars.html Diesels in the US And for an update (which I haven't uploaded yet), please see this message from John Hayes: http://wwia.org/pipermail/biofuel/Week-of-Mon-20050214/006049.html [Biofuel] US diesel options - was Re: New member introduction (Sorry John, next day or two, with luck, and thanks again!) Regards Keith Addison Journey to Forever Hi, i'm new to the list, and on this note of good or poor dependability of new diesel vehicles, i'd like to ask a general question. I'd like to purchase a diesel vehicle, as my next, and wonder what my choices are. It will need to be used, but perhaps new enough so that fuel lines and other compnents wont need to be changed . I think the idea of a camper van that someone mentioned sounds great. Is that a vw? what years would be good? Any suggestions ,for a 2-3 thou$ car (or van or truck) that is dependable, gets good milage, and is easy enough to work on , would be appreciated. - Original Message - thanks in advance, jon forster From: John Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 8:11 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Bad news for Diesel driver Mercedes-Benz, Volkswagen, and Volvo had more than their fair share of problems. Only Audi came out better than average, Consumers report to be published next week doesn't rate this years Mercedes and Volkswagens as being very reliable vehicles. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] freezer test
I just did a test with some winter diesel and bio diesel blends. I did a 50%, 33%, and a 20% blend. At -20c the 50% got thick but didn't solidify or sepparate, and the other two were ok. Are these results consistant with what is expected from a good home brew fuel? Dunno about blends (we never use them), but you could try putting some of your homebrew in a jar in the freezer with a thermometer in the jar, check it every few minutes to see what temp it goes cloudy and gels. There's a test like that here: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_winter.html Biodiesel in winter: Journey to Forever We've used Wintron X30 pour-point depressant, but we only used it once this winter, and that's long gone, none left in the tank now (though we do have more). It's been cold a lot, but we haven't had any problems. The TownAce splutters and hiccups a little on starting, but start it does, first kick, and it quickly settles down. Hm... there's different ideas on the list of what's cold, I know: here it seldom gets worse (lower) than about -12 deg C or so (10.5 deg F), and that's rare. Right now it's -7 deg C, and can drop to -10 or so; more often the nighttime temps are about 0 to -5. But I've seen messages in autumn from folks in San Francisco panicking when it gets below 40 deg F (4.5 deg C), still well above freezing, and their biodiesel starts to gel, which I don't understand. Ours is good to -5 deg C (23 deg F), and it seems even lower, and it's nothing special, we didn't even get rid of the saturated fats in the WVO for winter fuel, as we probably should have. So I don't know what they're making in San Francisco. Best wishes Keith Brent Saskatchewan Canada 91 GMC 6.2 ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Bad news for Diesel driver
everything you will find in the US and a couple that would be very hard to get your hands on. For 2-3 thousand, your choices will be limited to somewhat old. First to mind would be a diesel pickup with a camper or an old Mercedes. I am partial to the old Mercedes. For big bucks a Sprinter would be real cool. Chris Kueny - Original Message - From: jon forster [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 12:47 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Bad news for Diesel driver Hi, i'm new to the list, and on this note of good or poor dependability of new diesel vehicles, i'd like to ask a general question. I'd like to purchase a diesel vehicle, as my next, and wonder what my choices are. It will need to be used, but perhaps new enough so that fuel lines and other compnents wont need to be changed . I think the idea of a camper van that someone mentioned sounds great. Is that a vw? what years would be good? Any suggestions ,for a 2-3 thou$ car (or van or truck) that is dependable, gets good milage, and is easy enough to work on , would be appreciated. - Original Message -thanks in advance, jon forster From: John Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 8:11 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Bad news for Diesel driver Mercedes-Benz, Volkswagen, and Volvo had more than their fair share of problems. Only Audi came out better than average, Consumers report to be published next week doesn't rate this years Mercedes and Volkswagens as being very reliable vehicles. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Cleaning Up Factory Farms
Cleaning Up Factory Farms By J.R. Pegg, Environment News Service. Posted March 2, 2005. The Bush administration thinks it's perfectly OK to let factory farms discharge waste into the nation's waters. A federal appeals court says the policy stinks. The Bush administration's regulations to limit water pollution from factory farms violate the Clean Water Act and must be revised, a federal appeals court ruled Monday. The court found the regulations failed to ensure that factory farms would be held accountable for discharging animal wastes into the nation's waters. The ruling, released Monday by a three judge panel of the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New York, is a major victory for environmentalists who filed suit against the February 2003 rules. Robert F. Kennedy Jr., president of the Waterkeeper Alliance and an NRDC senior attorney, called the regulations the product of a conspiracy between a lawless industry and compliant public officials in cahoots to steal the public trust. I am grateful that the court has taken the government and the barons of corporate agriculture to the woodshed for a well-earned rebuke, Kennedy said. The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), which issued the rules, was not available for comment on the ruling. The decision continues a long-running battle over how to regulate factory farms - known as concentrated animal feeding operations (CAFOs). CAFOs have emerged as the dominant force in the modern production of agricultural livestock as the size of livestock operations has grown over the past two decades. These operations produce some 500 million tons of animal waste annually - disposal and storage of this waste presents serious risks to public health and the environment. CAFOs often over-apply liquid waste on land, which runs off into surface water, killing fish, spreading disease, and contaminating drinking water supplies. Waste can leak onto the land and into groundwater and drinking water supplies from the massive waste storage units on the farms. Three decades ago the U.S. Congress identified CAFOs as point sources of water pollution to be regulated under the Clean Water Act's water pollution permitting program. The 2003 rule aimed to implement that decision - it applies to some 15,500 livestock operations across the country. Large CAFOs are defined in the regulations as operations raising more than 1,000 cattle, 700 dairy cows, 2,500 pigs, 10,000 sheep, 125,000 chickens, 82,000 laying hens, or 55,000 turkeys in confinement. The regulations require these operations to apply for discharge permits under the Clean Water Act every five years and develop nutrient management plans to manage and limit pollution - or otherwise demonstrate that they have no potential for discharge. The Bush administration said the rules balanced environmental protection with the concerns of a competitive and economically important industry. But the court described the regulations as arbitrary and capricious and said the Clean Water Act demands regulation in fact, not only in principle. The court determined the rules illegally allowed permitting authorities to issue permits without reviewing the terms of CAFO plans to manage and limit pollution. The CAFO rule does nothing to ensure that each large CAFO will comply with all applicable effluent limitations and standards, the panel wrote in its 65-page ruling. The rule also deprives the public of the opportunity for the sort of regulatory participation that the Act guarantees because the rule effectively shields the nutrient management plans from public scrutiny and comment, the judges wrote. The panel agreed with environmentalists who argued that the regulations violate federal law because they do not ensure that permits contain specific limits on the amount of pollution CAFOs can discharge. To accept the EPA's contrary argument - that requiring a nutrient management plan is itself a restriction on land application discharges - is to allow semantics to torture logic, the court said. The agency also failed to require factory farms to use the necessary technological controls to reduce bacteria and other pathogens from their pollution, according the ruling. The court agreed that there is a better way than the Bush administration's plan, said Eric Huber, a Sierra Club attorney. When technology and existing law can keep animal waste out of our rivers, why should Americans have to settle for a plan that puts polluters before the public? J.R. Pegg is Washington D.C. Bureau Chief for Environment News Service. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
