Re: [Biofuel] 450 gal batch reactor
Try to find a used milk paturizer. If you live near a dairy operations scan the farmer's auctions for sales. Will Kelleher wrote: Hey all, I'm looking for a stainless steel chemical reactor that can handle about 450 gallons of oil. Does anyone know where I can find something like this? Thanks, Will K ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Ooil Plants suited for Eastern Montana
Can any one tell me what the best oil plants would be for an area that is home to dry land wheat and winter wheat? I am particularly interested in a seed type that is not Owned by large corporate agriculture and can be raised for seed as well as oil. Thanks Jim ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness(WasHypnosisasAnesthesiaWasTestimonials asEvidence)
I work with companion animals mainly .. at least that's what my business card says. One of the reasons I love working mainly with the furry, 4 legged variety vs the 2 legged skin types is there simply is no pretense, no puffed up self importance, and there is absolutely no PLACEBO EFFECT .. animals and infants .. just isn't there. .. if the stuff isn't working there is no way you will be able to convince that dog/cat/horse/cow that WOW .. AREN'T YOU FEELING SO MUCH BETTER .. and if you were silly enough to try that approach you will be flapping your jaws for your own entertainment .. or exercise. Given this set of conditions, I would be advising my client to (1) work with a Classical Homeopath for at least a year (don't self diagnosis and don't self treat with anything serious or long term) .. and (2) consider a good detox program (why bring it up and out if flushing will help) .. and then (3) move on to a qualified herbalist (helps aid in adding and balancing) within 1.5 to 2 years. Be careful in choosing a homeopath. Seek out one that's been highly recommended by people who know homeopathy. One of the scariest situations that is now cropping up in the Veterinarian community .. so I'm assuming it's happening in the Medical community (dentists would in included here) is that with such a substantial loss in income .. due hopefully to the human population beginning to wise up (I am an optimist always) .. a great many allopathically trained medical (furry and skin types) professionals are taking a few weekend courses and advertising themselves as holistic. In the vet community many are trying to use homeopathic remedies in an allopathic way .. something called nosodes used as a preventative would be an example. If you have any questions during treatment, I'll help if I can. Mary Lynn Rev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained Minister ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART TTouch . Reiki . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Animal Behavior Modification . Shamanic Spiritual Travel . Behavior Problems . Psionic Energy Practitioner . Radionics . Herbs . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Polarity . The Animal Connection Healing Modalities http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/ http://allcreatureconnections.org From: D. Mindock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel]Closed-Mindedness(WasHypnosisasAnesthesiaWasTestimonials asEvidence) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:33:46 -0600 Hi Marylynn, I'm going to see a holistic dentist next week. He wants to do a bunch of checks on me to see what's causing the periodontal disease. He says he has lots of methods to treat the problem. He is a follower of Dr. Hal Huggins, btw. Dr. Huggins introduced the problem of dental amalgam mercury poisoning to the public in the early 1980s. I think he is despised by the ADA. Yep, homeopathy is something I've been looking into. I used to use one from Boiron (sp) for flu prevention. Never got the flu when I used it. My original crown was done by a dentist in the air force about 30 years ago. He found a sensitive spot on a pre-molar. There was no cavity, just a spot sensitive to a probe he was using. So he drilled into a perfectly good tooth and put in a filling. I think that was the beginning of a slow decline in my health. Twenty years later the tooth started acting up, painwise. So I went to a dentist and he did a root canal followed with a gold crown. That tooth is now my nemesis. I know now it must come out even though I managed to stop the pain and infection with herbs, essential oils, MSM, and colloidal silver. I think what's happening now is that not only is the mercury bothering me but the toxic output of anaerobic bacteria is adding to the problem. Peace light, D. Mindock - Original Message - From: Marylynn Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness(WasHypnosisasAnesthesiaWasTestimonials asEvidence) Just my thoughts on the matter of bone (or anything) re-growth .. We are a whole and the whole must be treated so going to a dentist for bone re-growth and/or gum tissue re-growth is as much of a separation of self as seeing the heart specialist for heart problems, the dermatologist for skin problems, etc Your mouth, gums, jaw bone, teeth are still a part of the whole .. nothing is going to exist in isolation inside the human physical body. Do you know a good herbalist? I'm thinking something missing .. but if you have some level of toxic substance as a core problem (don't we all), then homeopathy could be the road. Mary Lynn Rev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained Minister ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART TTouch . Reiki . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Animal Behavior Modification . Shamanic Spiritual Travel . Behavior Problems . Psionic Energy Practitioner . Radionics . Herbs . Dowsing . Nutrition .
Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness(WasHypnosisasAnesthesiaWasTestimonials asEvidence)
D. Mindock wrote: Hi Marylynn, I'm going to see a holistic dentist next week. He wants to do a bunch of checks on me to see what's causing the periodontal disease. Do you brush and floss regularly? Do you have your teeth professionally cleaned every four to six months? Dentistry is certainly one medical field in which prevention and hygeine should be paramount concerns. I STILL have a baby tooth in my mouth! robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Precision Farming Equippment
James wrote: Hi all, you can view the green taxing proposals by David Millband to Gordon Brown as was leaked to the UK press over weekend here... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/10/29/umemo.xml Here's a proposal on aggriculture (p5 para 16) that cought my attention... To offer enhanced capital allowances for precision farming equippment - devices that allow farmers to tailor crops and soil management to the exact conditions within each field, reducing their environmental impact. I wonder what he's on about here? James I've just been reading through a call for research proposals by the European Commission, 7th FRAMEWORK PROGRAMME (http://ec.europa.eu/research/future/index_en.cfm) There is one specifc call that relates to this ( light equipment, ICT and robotics - which I guess will fall in the category for 'enhcnaced capital allowances'): COOP-2-1-4-03: The farm of tomorrow Call: KBBE-2007-1 The farm of tomorrow will take account of Europe`s ecological and cultural diversity, will be non-uniform, will built on technological, social and economic innovations and a variety of research outputs. The specific main issues facing the farm of tomorrow are: New models of farm material flow management, based on on-farm or local integration of closed-cycle processing facilities (energy, food/non-food raw materials, bio-refining). Energy efficient cultivation with light machinery (avoiding soil compaction), precision farming, and robotics are important components, considering special requirements for high value markets, like organic agriculture. Integrated technologies and ICT tools are needed to make cost efficient compliance with standards (public and private) an integral part of farm operations. The multifunctional European farming model delivering public goods (environment, landscape, social functions) in an efficient way needs research support to integrate, assess and quantify these services and linkage (e.g. rural tourism) to the rural economy. Funding scheme: Small collaborative project /Coordination and support action Expected impact: The project will increase competitiveness of farming in less protected markets, will increase viability of rural areas and improve competitiveness of the European farm machinery industry. mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness(WasHypnosisasAnesthesiaWasTestimonials asEvidence)
Hi Marylynn, I'm going to see a holistic dentist next week. He wants to do a bunch of checks on me to see what's causing the periodontal disease. He says he has lots of methods to treat the problem. He is a follower of Dr. Hal Huggins, btw. Dr. Huggins introduced the problem of dental amalgam mercury poisoning to the public in the early 1980s. I think he is despised by the ADA. Yep, homeopathy is something I've been looking into. I used to use one from Boiron (sp) for flu prevention. Never got the flu when I used it. My original crown was done by a dentist in the air force about 30 years ago. He found a sensitive spot on a pre-molar. There was no cavity, just a spot sensitive to a probe he was using. So he drilled into a perfectly good tooth and put in a filling. I think that was the beginning of a slow decline in my health. Twenty years later the tooth started acting up, painwise. So I went to a dentist and he did a root canal followed with a gold crown. That tooth is now my nemesis. I know now it must come out even though I managed to stop the pain and infection with herbs, essential oils, MSM, and colloidal silver. I think what's happening now is that not only is the mercury bothering me but the toxic output of anaerobic bacteria is adding to the problem. Peace light, D. Mindock - Original Message - From: Marylynn Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness(WasHypnosisasAnesthesiaWasTestimonials asEvidence) Just my thoughts on the matter of bone (or anything) re-growth .. We are a whole and the whole must be treated so going to a dentist for bone re-growth and/or gum tissue re-growth is as much of a separation of self as seeing the heart specialist for heart problems, the dermatologist for skin problems, etc Your mouth, gums, jaw bone, teeth are still a part of the whole .. nothing is going to exist in isolation inside the human physical body. Do you know a good herbalist? I'm thinking something missing .. but if you have some level of toxic substance as a core problem (don't we all), then homeopathy could be the road. Mary Lynn Rev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained Minister ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART TTouch . Reiki . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Animal Behavior Modification . Shamanic Spiritual Travel . Behavior Problems . Psionic Energy Practitioner . Radionics . Herbs . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Polarity . The Animal Connection Healing Modalities http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/ http://allcreatureconnections.org From: D. Mindock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel]Closed-Mindedness(WasHypnosisasAnesthesiaWasTestimonials asEvidence) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 09:48:58 -0500 Hi Mike, Yep, Linus Pauling was a true truth seeker, a beautiful human being. I've been doing a bit of research on periodontal disease. It seems that there is alot going on that my dentist doesn't know about. He just wants to pull teeth and put in partial plates. But there are dentists who can stop the disease and get bone and gums to regrow. So I will try to hook up with one and see if he can do something to save a couple teeth. I've talked with a friend who has partials and he hates them. I agree that flu shots are a bad idea. My wife doesn't get them even if they're free. Her company brought in a couple nurses and offered all employees free flu shots. She passed. She says she feels uncomfortable for a few days after getting the shot doesn't like the feeling. You just don't know what's in there besides the crippled virus. She and I work at keeping ourselves as healthy as possible and don't take our health for granted. Yep, being ornery does help. The mind-body connection is very real. The mind controls your health to a large degree. Being stubbornly optimistic or happy is a good way to keep the sick bugs at bay. Peace and joy, D. Mindock - Original Message - From: MK DuPree To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel]Closed-Mindedness(WasHypnosisasAnesthesiaWasTestimonials asEvidence) Hi D...good idea collecting the water thru the Pur first then distilling. Muy excellente!!! Linus Pauling...a true hero. Man, sorry to hear about the periodontal stuff. But glad you have a remedy. The colloidal silver I keep hearing about, but haven't tried. Just haven't felt the need. The wife and I don't do the flu shot stuff, but with whatever else we're doing, the years keep rolling by so far without any viral problems. Maybe being a bit ornery helps. Mike - Original Message - From: D. Mindock To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel]
[Biofuel] NVIC response to: India: Highly Vaccinated Babies Get Polio
The pro-vaccination community perhaps should be proud of all the good work that they do. Mary Lynn Rev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained Minister ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART TTouch . Reiki . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Animal Behavior Modification . Shamanic Spiritual Travel . Behavior Problems . Psionic Energy Practitioner . Radionics . Herbs . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Polarity . The Animal Connection Healing Modalities http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/ http://allcreatureconnections.org National Vaccine Information Center Newsletter e-NEWS October 26, 2006 They say almost all the cases have been reported from areas where sanitation is an issue and most of the children belong to poor families unable to give them a nutritious diet. In the developed countries, a child needs three doses for immunisation. But in India, a child may need up to 10 doses, they say. Officials have confirmed that one child in Delhi has contracted the virus despite veing given nine shots of the vaccine. - Geeta Pandey, BBC News, Delhi Barbara Loe Fisher Commentary: It is painful to watch doctors and public health officials squirt unlimited amounts of live oral polio vaccine down the throats of babies in India rather than address the poor nutrition and sanitation that comes with poverty, the true cause of most disease. With a religious zeal not seen since the Crusades, these public health officials bearing live polio viruses capable of being causing vaccine strain polio and transmitting it to others through the open sewage pits of poor communities in India, apparently have no idea what they are doing. Have the relentless polio vaccine campaigns in India and other poor countries put pressure on one or all of the three polio viruses contained in the live oral polio vaccine to mutute into vaccine resistant forms? Have the malnourished, poor children repeatedly exposed to live polio viruses become immune compromised and more vulnerable to other diseases? These and other questions are ignored as the vaccinators mindlessly conduct one polio vaccine campaign after another, determined to eradicate a virus from the earth using a live virus vaccine which gives the virus opportunity to thrive. The people, like lambs led to slaughter, do not know how to stand up to the officials in white coats. Some run. Others submit, afraid of retribution. And the highly vaccinated children living in poverty without enough to eat continue to get sicker and sicker. ** Indian alarm at new polio cases http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6082970.stm BBC News, Delhi 26 October 2006 By Geeta Pandey Wednesday, 25 October 2006, 07:48 GMT 08:48 UK E-mail this to a friendPrintable version Indian alarm at new polio cases By Geeta Pandey BBC News, Delhi Polio baby A health worker in India gives polio drops to a baby Officials in India say they are worried over the growing number of polio cases in the country. They say 119 new cases have been reported in the past month, taking the total number of infections to 416. The disease, which attacks children under five years, affects the nervous system and can result in paralysis. With almost one-third of the total 1,449 cases in the world, India is seen as a big stumbling block in the struggle against polio. Particularly dismal has been the case of the northern state of Uttar Pradesh where 358 polio cases have been recorded. Spreading virus Earlier it was believed that the virus was confined to some pockets of western Uttar Pradesh, but health ministry officials say now it has spread to 41 of the 70 districts in the state. The neighbouring state of Bihar comes second with 28 infections. With new cases being reported from the capital, Delhi, and in the western city of Mumbai, experts say the virus has now travelled out of the region and is afflicting children in the whole of northern and western India. Officials blame it on people moving out of the worst-affected states to other parts of the country. It is the migrants who have taken it out of Bihar and Uttar Pradesh. All the cases found in Delhi or Mumbai can be linked to the state as these children had travelled there in the last few months, a spokesman for the health ministry told the BBC. Experts say the spread of the virus is dependent on three factors - lack of nutrition, environmental causes and poor hygiene and sanitation. Concerned They say almost all the cases have been reported from areas where sanitation is an issue and most of the children belong to poor families unable to give them a nutritious diet. In the developed countries, a child needs three doses for immunisation. But in India, a child may need up to 10 doses, they say. Officials have confirmed that one child in Delhi has contracted the virus despite being given nine shots of the vaccine. We're still in the process of examining how that happened, but she may have had diarrhoea at the time she was given the vaccine. In such a situation, her
[Biofuel] FW: Why You Might Not Want The Flu Shot
Personally, I never get the flu shot and now reading this tells me that I've made some good choices in that matter. Mary Lynn Rev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained Minister ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART TTouch . Reiki . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Animal Behavior Modification . Shamanic Spiritual Travel . Behavior Problems . Psionic Energy Practitioner . Radionics . Herbs . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Polarity . The Animal Connection Healing Modalities http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/ http://allcreatureconnections.org Title: October 2006 Free Newsletter Special Flu Shot Report Here come the fear mongers...just in time for the flu vaccine marketing season.. Fear is used to persuade Americans to roll up their sleeves and hand over their children to be vaccinated. Years ago, people developed resistance the old fashioned way: By getting the flu. And then when that type of flu came around again years or decades later, they either didn't get sick or had only a mild case. The vaccine marketeers want to take that away from our population. What will that make us? Vaccine dependent, of course. - Barbara Loe Fisher, co-founder of the National Vaccine Information Center Three important reasons to avoid the flu shot: The flu shot contains formaldehyde, gelatin and traces of chicken cells. The flu shot contains viral contaminants that have been linked to cancer. You can get the flu shot - and all the risks that go with it - and still get the flu! From the OsteoMed newsletter. To subscribe, go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Another good reason to avoid the shot: to avoid Alzheimer's Disease According to Hugh Fudenberg, MD, the world's leading immunogeneticist and 13th most quoted biologist of our time (over 850 papers in peer reviewed journals), if an individual has five consecutive flu shots their chance of getting Alzheimer's is ten times higher! (1) How does the flu shot cause Alzheimer's? Dr. Fudenberg states the mercury and aluminum in flu shots (and many childhood shots as well as some RhoGam shots) cross the blood-brain barrier causing brain damage. Alzheimer's is expected to quadruple. Are flu shots the reason? (2) Flu hysteria is on the way (again) Reports claim that Influenza kills 30,000 to 40,000 Americans every year. (3) That is simply not the case. According to the Centers for Disease Control, the number of people who die of the flu are a fraction of that. Here is what the CDC says: In 2002: 753 died of the flu (4) In 2001: 267 died of the flu (5) In 2000: 2,175 died of the flu (6) In 1999: 1,685 died of the flu (7) Those who die of the flu are mostly frail, sickly, weak, malnourished and unhealthy to begin with. For people in reasonably good health, dying from the flu is, in fact, very rare - research even shows the flu shot does not affect mortality of elderly people. In conclusion - the flu shot is dangerous and useless. Flu shot does not save lives The ads say The flu shot saves lives, but research reveals it's not so. The flu vaccine isn't preventing death in the elderly, the high risk group that is told to get a flu shot to reduce mortality, according to a study in the Archives of Internal Medicine. (8) Although immunization rates in those over 65 have increased 50% in the past 20 years, there has been no decline in flu-related deaths. In addition to ineffectiveness, the flu shot's typical ingredients include aluminum (associated with Alzheimer's and seizures), mercury (linked to brain damage, ADHD and autism) and phenol (a carcinogen). In fact, mortality rates for those over 85 between 1968 and 2001 showed no change as well. The authors add: Studies substantially overestimate vaccination benefit; a diplomatic way of saying it's useless. If you get the flu avoid aspirin and TylenolT Researchers found that flu sufferers who took aspirin or acetaminophen (Tylenol) stayed sick an average of 3.5 days longer than people who did not take the drugs. The researchers discuss the purpose of a fever and note how confused the medical profession is when it comes to fever. In spite of centuries of clinical experience and recent intense investigation, it is still not clear whether fever is noxious per se, or if the benefits of antipyretic therapy outweigh its costs. (9) Natural healthcare providers have always understood the value of fever in fighting infection and cleansing the body of toxins. This was recently underlined in a paper showing the following: The flu protects against cancer In a research study appearing in The Journal of Cancer Research and Clinical Oncology, scientists discovered that those with a history of
[Biofuel] NREL Bio-Diesel Analytical Methods August 2002-Jan 2004.
This Is a Huge Information Resource. Anyone interested in doing some better home testing with minimal investment should look at this. Or just if you're interested in what is happening when ASTM testing occurs. Logan Vilas ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness(WasHypnosisasAnesthesiaWasTestimonials asEvidence)
Hi Bob, People have been taking homeopathic flu shots and seem to get results, however, people taking regular flu shots are still getting the flu and they are exposed to dangerous chemicals such as mercury and alluminum which are in regular flu vaccines. Terry Dyck From: bob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness(WasHypnosisasAnesthesiaWasTestimonials asEvidence) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:53:36 -0500 Sorry but I have to jump in here with the mention of homeopathy. This is the silliest most counter-intuitive medical mubo-jumbo on the planet. there is zero valid support for the idea that something which causes a symptom at high doses (what ever that means) is cured by something at extremely low doses. And I mean extreme. Substances are diluted to 10 to the 120th power and more. At this concentration there is nothing left at all. A little critical thinking goes a long way here. There may be some herbs out there for which there is credible evidence for efficacy, but as far as homeopathy goes- it is nonsense. Marylynn Schmidt wrote: Just my thoughts on the matter of bone (or anything) re-growth .. We are a whole and the whole must be treated so going to a dentist for bone re-growth and/or gum tissue re-growth is as much of a separation of self as seeing the heart specialist for heart problems, the dermatologist for skin problems, etc Your mouth, gums, jaw bone, teeth are still a part of the whole .. nothing is going to exist in isolation inside the human physical body. Do you know a good herbalist? I'm thinking something missing .. but if you have some level of toxic substance as a core problem (don't we all), then homeopathy could be the road. Mary Lynn Rev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained Minister ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART TTouch . Reiki . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Animal Behavior Modification . Shamanic Spiritual Travel . Behavior Problems . Psionic Energy Practitioner . Radionics . Herbs . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Polarity . The Animal Connection Healing Modalities http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/ http://allcreatureconnections.org From: D. Mindock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel]Closed-Mindedness(WasHypnosisasAnesthesiaWasTestimonials asEvidence) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 09:48:58 -0500 Hi Mike, Yep, Linus Pauling was a true truth seeker, a beautiful human being. I've been doing a bit of research on periodontal disease. It seems that there is alot going on that my dentist doesn't know about. He just wants to pull teeth and put in partial plates. But there are dentists who can stop the disease and get bone and gums to regrow. So I will try to hook up with one and see if he can do something to save a couple teeth. I've talked with a friend who has partials and he hates them. I agree that flu shots are a bad idea. My wife doesn't get them even if they're free. Her company brought in a couple nurses and offered all employees free flu shots. She passed. She says she feels uncomfortable for a few days after getting the shot doesn't like the feeling. You just don't know what's in there besides the crippled virus. She and I work at keeping ourselves as healthy as possible and don't take our health for granted. Yep, being ornery does help. The mind-body connection is very real. The mind controls your health to a large degree. Being stubbornly optimistic or happy is a good way to keep the sick bugs at bay. Peace and joy, D. Mindock - Original Message - From: MK DuPree To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel]Closed-Mindedness(WasHypnosisasAnesthesiaWasTestimonials asEvidence) Hi D...good idea collecting the water thru the Pur first then distilling. Muy excellente!!! Linus Pauling...a true hero. Man, sorry to hear about the periodontal stuff. But glad you have a remedy. The colloidal silver I keep hearing about, but haven't tried. Just haven't felt the need. The wife and I don't do the flu shot stuff, but with whatever else we're doing, the years keep rolling by so far without any viral problems. Maybe being a bit ornery helps. Mike - Original Message - From: D. Mindock To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness(WasHypnosisasAnesthesiaWasTestimonials as Evidence) Hi Mike, Yeah, my distiller has that drip thingy too. But I don't trust it very much. It is just too small and the water merely flows over a the carbon granules. So I use a faucet mounted carbon block filter. It is a Pur but Brita and some others make them too. I collect
Re: [Biofuel] Ooil Plants suited for Eastern Montana
Sun flowers? - Original Message - From: JAMES PHELPS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Biofuel] Ooil Plants suited for Eastern Montana Can any one tell me what the best oil plants would be for an area that is home to dry land wheat and winter wheat? I am particularly interested in a seed type that is not Owned by large corporate agriculture and can be raised for seed as well as oil. Thanks Jim ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Useful link
Hi, http://www.arti-india.org/content/view/12/28/ ARTI institute is specialized in sustainable rural development. Specific interest to the group will about the compact biogas plant which can be build around appro $100 (Methane from house hold waste). They have a $3 (Indian Rs 150)guide ( postage within India), covering their various ( effective/cost effective) technique for rural development. Read through the link and see what techniques can be replicated round the world. Best regards, Am. Sivaramakrishnan ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Say no to mercury in your teeth
When your dentist tells you not to worry about the amalgam he wants to put into yourcavity or root canal, show him/her the list below. Peace, D. Mindock http://www.medical-library.net/specialties/framer.html?/specialties/_biological_and_mercury_free_dentistry.html Here in summary form are the essential assertions of mercury and root canal free dentistry accompanied by literature references in cases where there can be any argument. I am indebted to Dr. Robert Gammal and Mr. Leif Hedegard for the organization of this information. Dental Amalgam contains about 50% Mercury. (undisputed) Mercury has been scientifically demonstrated to be more toxic than Lead, Cadmium, or even Arsenic. (undisputed) Mercury leaves dental amalgam continuously throughout the lifetime of the filing.(7) Mercury vapor is the main way that mercury comes out of amalgam.(31) Mercury vapor is absorbed at a rate of 80% through the lungs into the arterial blood. (31, 55) Mercury is cytotoxic, i.e., it kills cells (undisputed) There is NO harmless level of Mercury Vapor Exposure. (63) Mercury from amalgam binds to -SH (sulfhydryl) groups. These exist in almost every enzymatic process in the body. Mercury from amalgam will thus have the potential of disturbing all metabolic processes. ( 25, 33,60). Mercury from amalgam is transported freely via the blood.(19,34,35,) Mercury vapor is absorbed directly into the brain. (34, 55a) Mercury from amalgam will result in a slow build up of mercury in body tissues. (20,26, 34) Mercury crosses the blood brain barrier. (34,55a) Mercury is implicated in the pathogenesis of Alzheimer's Disease. (67,68) Mercury from amalgam is stored in the fetus and infant before the mother. (20,61) Mercury from amalgam is stored in the breast milk and the fetus up to 8 times more than the mother's tissues. (18,19) Mercury (Mercury Vapor / Methyl mercury) crosses the placenta.(18, 31) Mercury Crosses into breast milk.(18,31,61) Mercury will severely reduce reproductive function.(2, 3, 4, 20, 22, 24, 31, 37,38, 39, 40, 41, 49) Mercury rapidly depletes the immune system.(27,34,35,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,60) Mercury will induce a number of Auto Immune Diseases.(27,34,35,42,43,44,60) Mercury will cause an increase in number and severity of allergies.(1,34,60) Mercury from amalgam is stored principally in the kidneys, liver and brain. (1,20,31) Mercury from amalgam (shown in animal experiments) causes kidney damage.(59) Mercury from will cause a 50% reduction in Kidney filtration as shown in a study of sheep after amalgam placement.(59) Methyl Mercury is 100 times more toxic than elemental Mercury. (undisputed) Mercury from amalgam is methylated in the mouth.(51,53,54,) After chewing, Mercury Vapor levels will remain raised for at least another 90 minutes. (1,15,16,18,47) Mercury from amalgam will migrate through the tooth.(25,27,30) This rate of migration is increased if a gold crown is placed over a tooth filled with amalgam. (27,30) Teeth are living tissue and are a part of our bodies. (undisputed) Teeth have a massive communication via blood, lymph and nerves with the rest of the body.(34 Mercury from amalgam is absorbed into the body at a rate of 3 to 17 mcg / day. (WHO 1991 Criteria 118) Mercury release is increased by; increases in temperature, friction increase in electrical currents.(28,31,56) Mercury from amalgam will enter the body as elemental mercury, inorganic mercury, vapor, charged mercury ions. In the Brain, Mercury from amalgam is stored preferentially in the Pituitary Gland and Hypothalamus.(20,34) Micro-Mercurialism is principally characterized by Neurological symptoms.(34) Mercury is transported along the axons of nerve fibers.(33,34,50) Mercury from amalgam may be stored in every other cell in the body. Each area affected will produce its own set of symptoms Mercury binds to hemoglobin in the red blood cell thus reducing oxygen carrying capacity.(1,16,17,21,26,35) Mercury damages blood vessel reducing blood supply to the tissues (micro-angiopathies).(34) Amalgam fillings produce electrical currents which might be injurious to health. These currents are measurable in Micro Amps. The Central Nervous System (Brain) operates in the range of Nano-Amps this is One Thousand times less than a Micro Amp.(28) Dissimilar metals in the mouth [eg Gold Amalgam] will produce higher electrical currents.(19,30) Mercury from amalgam (shown in animal experiments) will induce Antibiotic Resistance and Mercury resistance in bacteria in the mouth and Gastrointestinal tract.(58) Brain levels of mercury are in a direct linear proportion to the number of Surfaces of amalgam fillings in the
[Biofuel] Methane from food waste/starchy food
For methan production best source is starchy food materials like , 1 kg of starchy food material can produce methane equal to methane that be produced from 40 cows dung and in couple of hours. for more detail on this and other rural sustainable energy source refer www.arti-india.org. best regards, Am. Sivaramakrishnan - Original Message From: NV Dhana [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 8:42:49 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Bio-Gas...i.e. Methane...Marsh Gas...etc. John, cow manure is excelent for Methane source. Manure from four cow can provide enough methane for one household for cooking, Lighting and hot water. pig manure is poor for methane production. plenty of litrature is on line for it. From: John P Gochoco [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Bio-Gas...i.e. Methane...Marsh Gas...etc. Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 21:21:27 -0800 Can someone show me a string of emails...or something showing any discussion regarding the production and use of Methane in the US? I pass by huge poultry's and cow and pig farms almost everyday and not one of them ever even thought of the potentials. They all seem to be sold on the idea of just using manure for fertilizer. Maybe I'm wrong...somebody help me!!! ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _ Get today's hot entertainment gossip http://movies.msn.com/movies/hotgossip?icid=T002MSN03A07001 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] NVIC response to: India: Highly Vaccinated Babies GetPolio
It depends on how you look at it. Both my brothers in a small town in alaska (pre vaccine), of 65 kids in the town 45 got polio. 2 died, 4 wheel chair bound, one of my brothers has a fused ancle, the other recovered. I was born 20 years later and of a school 1200, we had one case of polio. And there was no nutrition or sanitation problems in the town. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylynn Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 9:32 AM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] NVIC response to: India: Highly Vaccinated Babies GetPolio The pro-vaccination community perhaps should be proud of all the good work that they do. Mary Lynn Rev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained Minister ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART TTouch . Reiki . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Animal Behavior Modification . Shamanic Spiritual Travel . Behavior Problems . Psionic Energy Practitioner . Radionics . Herbs . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Polarity . The Animal Connection Healing Modalities http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/ http://allcreatureconnections.org National Vaccine Information Center Newsletter e-NEWS October 26, 2006 They say almost all the cases have been reported from areas where sanitation is an issue and most of the children belong to poor families unable to give them a nutritious diet. In the developed countries, a child needs three doses for immunisation. But in India, a child may need up to 10 doses, they say. Officials have confirmed that one child in Delhi has contracted the virus despite veing given nine shots of the vaccine. - Geeta Pandey, BBC News, Delhi Barbara Loe Fisher Commentary: It is painful to watch doctors and public health officials squirt unlimited amounts of live oral polio vaccine down the throats of babies in India rather than address the poor nutrition and sanitation that comes with poverty, the true cause of most disease. With a religious zeal not seen since the Crusades, these public health officials bearing live polio viruses capable of being causing vaccine strain polio and transmitting it to others through the open sewage pits of poor communities in India, apparently have no idea what they are doing. Have the relentless polio vaccine campaigns in India and other poor countries put pressure on one or all of the three polio viruses contained in the live oral polio vaccine to mutute into vaccine resistant forms? Have the malnourished, poor children repeatedly exposed to live polio viruses become immune compromised and more vulnerable to other diseases? These and other questions are ignored as the vaccinators mindlessly conduct one polio vaccine campaign after another, determined to eradicate a virus from the earth using a live virus vaccine which gives the virus opportunity to thrive. The people, like lambs led to slaughter, do not know how to stand up to the officials in white coats. Some run. Others submit, afraid of retribution. And the highly vaccinated children living in poverty without enough to eat continue to get sicker and sicker. ** Indian alarm at new polio cases http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6082970.stm BBC News, Delhi 26 October 2006 By Geeta Pandey Wednesday, 25 October 2006, 07:48 GMT 08:48 UK E-mail this to a friendPrintable version Indian alarm at new polio cases By Geeta Pandey BBC News, Delhi Polio baby A health worker in India gives polio drops to a baby Officials in India say they are worried over the growing number of polio cases in the country. They say 119 new cases have been reported in the past month, taking the total number of infections to 416. The disease, which attacks children under five years, affects the nervous system and can result in paralysis. With almost one-third of the total 1,449 cases in the world, India is seen as a big stumbling block in the struggle against polio. Particularly dismal has been the case of the northern state of Uttar Pradesh where 358 polio cases have been recorded. Spreading virus Earlier it was believed that the virus was confined to some pockets of western Uttar Pradesh, but health ministry officials say now it has spread to 41 of the 70 districts in the state. The neighbouring state of Bihar comes second with 28 infections. With new cases being reported from the capital, Delhi, and in the western city of Mumbai, experts say the virus has now travelled out of the region and is afflicting children in the whole of northern and western India. Officials blame it on people moving out of the worst-affected states to other parts of the country. It is the migrants who have taken it out of Bihar and Uttar Pradesh. All the cases found in Delhi or Mumbai can be linked to the state as these children had travelled there in the last few months, a spokesman for the health ministry told the BBC. Experts say the spread of the virus is dependent on three factors - lack of nutrition, environmental causes
Re: [Biofuel] Say no to mercury in your teeth
D. Mindock wrote: When your dentist tells you not to worry about the amalgam he wants to put into your cavity or root canal, show him/her the list below. Peace, D. Mindock I REALLY should be dead by now . . . So should my wife, who also has amalgam fillings and works with amalgam in the dental office every day. robert luis rabello "The Edge of Justice" Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness(WasHypnosisasAnesthesiaWasTestimonials asEvidence)
Terry Dyck wrote: Hi Bob, People have been taking homeopathic flu shots and seem to get results, however, people taking regular flu shots are still getting the flu and they are exposed to dangerous chemicals such as mercury and alluminum which are in regular flu vaccines. crapola, show me the data! homeophathy is a hoax, it is not chemically or biologically plausible. Please look at what it is and think critically. Homeopathic nostrums have been so diluted that nothing at all of the original ingredient exists. THINK ABOUT IT. The oscillococcinum preperation mentioned for the flu treatment is made from the liver of a duck. As I recall 35 grams of duck liver fat is churned into 100 milliters of water. This is dumped out. Then another 100 ml is added to the same container. Repeat this process 200 times. What you have is some thing that has been diluted 100 to the 200th power. The is no way in hell that there is a single m molecule exists from the original duck. Time magazine did a story on this a while back. They called it 120 million dollar duck, because that is the money made on the sale of the derived product (Boiron) talk about follow the money! I would encourage any thinking person to examine any of the following http://www.homeowatch.org/history/oscillo.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscillococcinum or go listen to the podcasts at: http://www.quackcast.com/QuackCast/Podcasts/Archive.html after doing so come back and defend this nonsense Terry Dyck From: bob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness(WasHypnosisasAnesthesiaWasTestimonials asEvidence) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:53:36 -0500 Sorry but I have to jump in here with the mention of homeopathy. This is the silliest most counter-intuitive medical mubo-jumbo on the planet. there is zero valid support for the idea that something which causes a symptom at high doses (what ever that means) is cured by something at extremely low doses. And I mean extreme. Substances are diluted to 10 to the 120th power and more. At this concentration there is nothing left at all. A little critical thinking goes a long way here. There may be some herbs out there for which there is credible evidence for efficacy, but as far as homeopathy goes- it is nonsense. Marylynn Schmidt wrote: Just my thoughts on the matter of bone (or anything) re-growth .. We are a whole and the whole must be treated so going to a dentist for bone re-growth and/or gum tissue re-growth is as much of a separation of self as seeing the heart specialist for heart problems, the dermatologist for skin problems, etc Your mouth, gums, jaw bone, teeth are still a part of the whole .. nothing is going to exist in isolation inside the human physical body. Do you know a good herbalist? I'm thinking something missing .. but if you have some level of toxic substance as a core problem (don't we all), then homeopathy could be the road. Mary Lynn Rev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained Minister ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART TTouch . Reiki . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Animal Behavior Modification . Shamanic Spiritual Travel . Behavior Problems . Psionic Energy Practitioner . Radionics . Herbs . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Polarity . The Animal Connection Healing Modalities http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/ http://allcreatureconnections.org From: D. Mindock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel]Closed-Mindedness(WasHypnosisasAnesthesiaWasTestimonials asEvidence) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 09:48:58 -0500 Hi Mike, Yep, Linus Pauling was a true truth seeker, a beautiful human being. I've been doing a bit of research on periodontal disease. It seems that there is alot going on that my dentist doesn't know about. He just wants to pull teeth and put in partial plates. But there are dentists who can stop the disease and get bone and gums to regrow. So I will try to hook up with one and see if he can do something to save a couple teeth. I've talked with a friend who has partials and he hates them. I agree that flu shots are a bad idea. My wife doesn't get them even if they're free. Her company brought in a couple nurses and offered all employees free flu shots. She passed. She says she feels uncomfortable for a few days after getting the shot doesn't like the feeling. You just don't know what's in there besides the crippled virus. She and I work at keeping ourselves as healthy as possible and don't take our health for granted. Yep, being ornery does help. The mind-body connection is very real. The mind controls your health to a large degree. Being stubbornly optimistic or happy is a good way to keep the sick bugs at bay. Peace and joy, D. Mindock
Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness(WasHypnosisasAnesthesiaWasTestimonials asEvidence)
You're thinking of sourdough bread. bob allen wrote: Terry Dyck wrote: Hi Bob, People have been taking homeopathic flu shots and seem to get results, however, people taking regular flu shots are still getting the flu and they are exposed to dangerous chemicals such as mercury and alluminum which are in regular flu vaccines. crapola, show me the data! homeophathy is a hoax, it is not chemically or biologically plausible. Please look at what it is and think critically. Homeopathic nostrums have been so diluted that nothing at all of the original ingredient exists. THINK ABOUT IT. The oscillococcinum preperation mentioned for the flu treatment is made from the liver of a duck. As I recall 35 grams of duck liver fat is churned into 100 milliters of water. This is dumped out. Then another 100 ml is added to the same container. Repeat this process 200 times. What you have is some thing that has been diluted 100 to the 200th power. The is no way in hell that there is a single m molecule exists from the original duck. Time magazine did a story on this a while back. They called it 120 million dollar duck, because that is the money made on the sale of the derived product (Boiron) talk about follow the money! I would encourage any thinking person to examine any of the following http://www.homeowatch.org/history/oscillo.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscillococcinum or go listen to the podcasts at: http://www.quackcast.com/QuackCast/Podcasts/Archive.html after doing so come back and defend this nonsense Terry Dyck From: bob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness(WasHypnosisasAnesthesiaWasTestimonials asEvidence) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:53:36 -0500 Sorry but I have to jump in here with the mention of homeopathy. This is the silliest most counter-intuitive medical mubo-jumbo on the planet. there is zero valid support for the idea that something which causes a symptom at high doses (what ever that means) is cured by something at extremely low doses. And I mean extreme. Substances are diluted to 10 to the 120th power and more. At this concentration there is nothing left at all. A little critical thinking goes a long way here. There may be some herbs out there for which there is credible evidence for efficacy, but as far as homeopathy goes- it is nonsense. Marylynn Schmidt wrote: Just my thoughts on the matter of bone (or anything) re-growth .. We are a whole and the whole must be treated so going to a dentist for bone re-growth and/or gum tissue re-growth is as much of a separation of self as seeing the heart specialist for heart problems, the dermatologist for skin problems, etc Your mouth, gums, jaw bone, teeth are still a part of the whole .. nothing is going to exist in isolation inside the human physical body. Do you know a good herbalist? I'm thinking something missing .. but if you have some level of toxic substance as a core problem (don't we all), then homeopathy could be the road. Mary Lynn Rev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained Minister ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART TTouch . Reiki . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Animal Behavior Modification . Shamanic Spiritual Travel . Behavior Problems . Psionic Energy Practitioner . Radionics . Herbs . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Polarity . The Animal Connection Healing Modalities http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/ http://allcreatureconnections.org From: D. Mindock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel]Closed-Mindedness(WasHypnosisasAnesthesiaWasTestimonials asEvidence) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 09:48:58 -0500 Hi Mike, Yep, Linus Pauling was a true truth seeker, a beautiful human being. I've been doing a bit of research on periodontal disease. It seems that there is alot going on that my dentist doesn't know about. He just wants to pull teeth and put in partial plates. But there are dentists who can stop the disease and get bone and gums to regrow. So I will try to hook up with one and see if he can do something to save a couple teeth. I've talked with a friend who has partials and he hates them. I agree that flu shots are a bad idea. My wife doesn't get them even if they're free. Her company brought in a couple nurses and offered all employees free flu shots. She passed. She says she feels uncomfortable for a few days after getting the shot doesn't like the feeling. You just don't know what's in there besides the crippled virus. She and I work at keeping ourselves as healthy as possible and don't take
Re: [Biofuel] Ooil Plants suited for Eastern Montana
They do well a bit east of here but I think its just a bit arid for them. Jim From: VAN DER SLUYS, WILLIAM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Ooil Plants suited for Eastern Montana Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 11:26:26 -0500 Sun flowers? - Original Message - From: JAMES PHELPS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Biofuel] Ooil Plants suited for Eastern Montana Can any one tell me what the best oil plants would be for an area that is home to dry land wheat and winter wheat? I am particularly interested in a seed type that is not Owned by large corporate agriculture and can be raised for seed as well as oil. Thanks Jim ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Say no to mercury in your teeth
or see http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/consumer/amalgams.html Since the 1990s, FDA and other government agencies (CDC, NIH) have reviewed the scientific literature looking for links between dental amalgams and health problems. To date, the agencies have found no scientific studies that demonstrate dental amalgams harm children or adults. But we continue to review the literature and ask experts their opinions on the safety of dental amalgam. http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ahc-asc/media/nr-cp/1996/1996_63_e.html The statement states that current evidence does not indicate that dental amalgam is causing illness in the general population. It also says that a ban is not justified, and neither is the removal of existing sound amalgam fillings. etc. D. Mindock wrote: When your dentist tells you not to worry about the amalgam he wants to put into your cavity or root canal, show him/her the list below. Peace, D. Mindock http://www.medical-library.net/specialties/framer.html?/specialties/_biological_and_mercury_free_dentistry.html Here in summary form are the essential assertions of mercury and root canal free dentistry accompanied by literature references in cases where there can be any argument. I am indebted to Dr. Robert Gammal and Mr. Leif Hedegard for the organization of this information. 1. Dental Amalgam contains about 50% Mercury. (undisputed) 2. Mercury has been scientifically demonstrated to be more toxic than Lead, Cadmium, or even Arsenic. (undisputed) 3. Mercury leaves dental amalgam continuously throughout the lifetime of the filing.(7) 4. Mercury vapor is the main way that mercury comes out of amalgam.(31) 5. Mercury vapor is absorbed at a rate of 80% through the lungs into the arterial blood. (31, 55) 6. Mercury is cytotoxic, i.e., it kills cells (undisputed) 7. There is NO harmless level of Mercury Vapor Exposure. (63) 8. Mercury from amalgam binds to -SH (sulfhydryl) groups. These exist in almost every enzymatic process in the body. Mercury from amalgam will thus have the potential of disturbing all metabolic processes. ( 25, 33,60). 9. Mercury from amalgam is transported freely via the blood.(19,34,35,) 10. Mercury vapor is absorbed directly into the brain. (34, 55a) 11. Mercury from amalgam will result in a slow build up of mercury in body tissues. (20,26, 34) 12. Mercury crosses the blood brain barrier. (34,55a) 13. Mercury is implicated in the pathogenesis of Alzheimer's Disease. (67,68) 14. Mercury from amalgam is stored in the fetus and infant before the mother. (20,61) 15. Mercury from amalgam is stored in the breast milk and the fetus up to 8 times more than the mother's tissues. (18,19) 16. Mercury (Mercury Vapor / Methyl mercury) crosses the placenta.(18, 31) 17. Mercury Crosses into breast milk.(18,31,61) 18. Mercury will severely reduce reproductive function.(2, 3, 4, 20, 22, 24, 31, 37,38, 39, 40, 41, 49) 19. Mercury rapidly depletes the immune system.(27,34,35,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,60) 20. Mercury will induce a number of Auto Immune Diseases.(27,34,35,42,43,44,60) 21. Mercury will cause an increase in number and severity of allergies.(1,34,60) 22. Mercury from amalgam is stored principally in the kidneys, liver and brain. (1,20,31) 23. Mercury from amalgam (shown in animal experiments) causes kidney damage.(59) 24. Mercury from will cause a 50% reduction in Kidney filtration as shown in a study of sheep after amalgam placement.(59) 25. Methyl Mercury is 100 times more toxic than elemental Mercury. (undisputed) 26. Mercury from amalgam is methylated in the mouth.(51,53,54,) 27. After chewing, Mercury Vapor levels will remain raised for at least another 90 minutes. (1,15,16,18,47) 28. Mercury from amalgam will migrate through the tooth.(25,27,30) 29. This rate of migration is increased if a gold crown is placed over a tooth filled with amalgam. (27,30) 30. Teeth are living tissue and are a part of our bodies. (undisputed) 31. Teeth have a massive communication via blood, lymph and nerves with the rest of the body.(34 32. Mercury from amalgam is absorbed into the body at a rate of 3 to 17 mcg / day. (WHO 1991 Criteria 118) 33. Mercury release is increased by; increases in temperature, friction increase in electrical currents.(28,31,56) 34. Mercury from amalgam will enter the body as elemental mercury, inorganic mercury, vapor, charged mercury ions. 35. In the Brain, Mercury from amalgam is stored preferentially in the Pituitary Gland and Hypothalamus.(20,34) 36. Micro-Mercurialism is principally characterized by Neurological symptoms.(34) 37. Mercury is transported along the axons of nerve
Re: [Biofuel] China will invest 1.5 trillion yuan (US$189 billion) inalt energy
Hi Mike China better do something...the country is floating in coal fired pollution. Keith, I've meant to ask...how does Japan, especially where you live, fare with all the smoke coming from China? Mike DuPree How indeed, I've never heard it discussed here but maybe I just missed it. Maybe they pay it back when the wind blows the other way with dioxin drift from all the garbage incinerators here in Japan. The Japanese are consumers of China's coal energy via the large amount of manufacturing they do in China, for the domestic Japanese market as well as others. Judging from their generally cavalier view of basic labour rights in China or rather the lack of them and no doubt of the environment too, I guess their main concern is just as long as it's cheap. But that's not saying anything in particular about Japan and Japanese, nor China and Chinese for that matter, just normal business-as-usual corporate behaviour as decreed by the bottom-line. IMHO. After all, let alone the air we all breathe, high-ranked corporate slaves can externalise toxic wastes onto their very own family's dinner plates and see it as Good: Fear in the fields Part I http://www.crcwater.org/issues/fertwaste7397.html Fear in the fields Part II http://www.crcwater.org/issues/fertwaste7497.html In addition, the report said the industry sent farms and fertilizer companies chemicals which they know cause cancer and reproductive problems. Those included 6.2 million pounds of lead compounds, 1.3 million pounds of chromium compounds, 233,000 pounds of cadmium compounds, 212,000 pounds of nickel compounds, 16,000 pounds of mercury compounds and 223 pounds of arsenic compounds. Dioxins weren't measured. Twenty-nine tested fertilizers contained twenty-two toxic heavy metals. These metals are linked to either ecological or human health hazards. Most noticeable is the wide array of toxic metals that exist in fertilizers. In Oklahoma, a uranium processing plant disposed of low-level radioactive waste by spraying ten million gallons a year of the liquid toxic material on Bermuda grass which was used as grazing land. Near the site a frog with nine legs was found and a two-nosed calf was born. There were 124 reported cases of cancer and birth defects near the toxic fields. But it saves money. Regards Keith - Original Message - From: AltEnergyNetwork [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 4:06 PM Subject: [Biofuel] China will invest 1.5 trillion yuan (US$189 billion) inalt energy $189 BILLION investment in renewable energy. I guess we would have to be dreaming in 3d technicolor to see that type of large investment in alt energy. Another example of other countries leaving the U.S. in the dust and falling further behind the rest of the world, regards tallex China will invest 1.5 trillion yuan (US$189 billion) to increase the ratio of renewable energy consumption http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/bizchina/2006-10/30/content_719770.htm ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] NREL Bio-Diesel Analytical Methods August 2002-Jan 2004.
This Is a Huge Information Resource. Anyone interested in doing some better home testing with minimal investment should look at this. Or just if you're interested in what is happening when ASTM testing occurs. Logan Vilas The link: Biodiesel Analytical Methods, 2002-2004, Van Gerpen, Shanks, Pruszko, Clements, Knothe, National Renewable Energy Laboratory -- 100 pages, Acrobat file, 1.4Mb: http://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy04osti/36240.pdf From: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_link.html Biodiesel resources on the Web FWIW. If home testing with minimal investment is what's required then these tests are sufficient to guide you to making high-quality fuel: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_vehicle.html#quality Quality testing Better quality than that required by the ASTM standard (which is only a B20 standard): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg61588.html [Biofuel] Biodiesel test results 11 Apr 2006 Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness(WasHypnosisasAnesthesiaWasTestimonials asEvidence)
Bob, what you don't understand, you automatically do your quackwatch routine. Asking you to try to go beyond your built-in wall of prejudices is silly of me to ask of you. So I won't. Don't ask for references or science. You have your thoughts on things and that is the final word for you. Science is only a method, a tool, to get something believed to have a chance of being true to be verified. It doesn't explain the leap of intuition that creates the hypothesis in the first place. Homeopathy has been used successfully for quite some time. That science cannot explain it does not mean it is not valid. Science is merely a method. Where did the hypothesis come from? Explain that. Peace and light, D. Mindock - Original Message - From: bob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness(WasHypnosisasAnesthesiaWasTestimonials asEvidence) Sorry but I have to jump in here with the mention of homeopathy. This is the silliest most counter-intuitive medical mubo-jumbo on the planet. there is zero valid support for the idea that something which causes a symptom at high doses (what ever that means) is cured by something at extremely low doses. And I mean extreme. Substances are diluted to 10 to the 120th power and more. At this concentration there is nothing left at all. A little critical thinking goes a long way here. There may be some herbs out there for which there is credible evidence for efficacy, but as far as homeopathy goes- it is nonsense. Marylynn Schmidt wrote: Just my thoughts on the matter of bone (or anything) re-growth .. We are a whole and the whole must be treated so going to a dentist for bone re-growth and/or gum tissue re-growth is as much of a separation of self as seeing the heart specialist for heart problems, the dermatologist for skin problems, etc Your mouth, gums, jaw bone, teeth are still a part of the whole .. nothing is going to exist in isolation inside the human physical body. Do you know a good herbalist? I'm thinking something missing .. but if you have some level of toxic substance as a core problem (don't we all), then homeopathy could be the road. Mary Lynn Rev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained Minister ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART TTouch . Reiki . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Animal Behavior Modification . Shamanic Spiritual Travel . Behavior Problems . Psionic Energy Practitioner . Radionics . Herbs . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Polarity . The Animal Connection Healing Modalities http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/ http://allcreatureconnections.org From: D. Mindock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel]Closed-Mindedness(WasHypnosisasAnesthesiaWasTestimonials asEvidence) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 09:48:58 -0500 Hi Mike, Yep, Linus Pauling was a true truth seeker, a beautiful human being. I've been doing a bit of research on periodontal disease. It seems that there is alot going on that my dentist doesn't know about. He just wants to pull teeth and put in partial plates. But there are dentists who can stop the disease and get bone and gums to regrow. So I will try to hook up with one and see if he can do something to save a couple teeth. I've talked with a friend who has partials and he hates them. I agree that flu shots are a bad idea. My wife doesn't get them even if they're free. Her company brought in a couple nurses and offered all employees free flu shots. She passed. She says she feels uncomfortable for a few days after getting the shot doesn't like the feeling. You just don't know what's in there besides the crippled virus. She and I work at keeping ourselves as healthy as possible and don't take our health for granted. Yep, being ornery does help. The mind-body connection is very real. The mind controls your health to a large degree. Being stubbornly optimistic or happy is a good way to keep the sick bugs at bay. Peace and joy, D. Mindock - Original Message - From: MK DuPree To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel]Closed-Mindedness(WasHypnosisasAnesthesiaWasTestimonials asEvidence) Hi D...good idea collecting the water thru the Pur first then distilling. Muy excellente!!! Linus Pauling...a true hero. Man, sorry to hear about the periodontal stuff. But glad you have a remedy. The colloidal silver I keep hearing about, but haven't tried. Just haven't felt the need. The wife and I don't do the flu shot stuff, but with whatever else we're doing, the years keep rolling by so far without any viral problems. Maybe being a bit ornery helps. Mike - Original Message - From: D. Mindock To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent:
Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness(WasHypnosisasAnesthesiaWasTestimonials asEvidence)
I try not to respond. I grew up in a household of 3 chemical engineers with an average of 2.5 masters between them .. brilliant people and I frequently could enjoy being a member of that household .. except when I was trying to walk them through traffic .. and, lord please forgive me .. when I was begged to go clothes shopping with my sister .. retired as head of patents for a large chemical company but couldn't understand something like sizes and appropriate dress for different occasions. I dressed her pretty much through most of her extremely successful career. My problem was understanding how they could be simply amazed when something in a test tube would respond in one way but would respond quite differently .. say in a human body .. they weren't just joking .. they really couldn't understand it. To believe in the physical, just the physical, and only the physical leaves the rest of the universe ignored .. and I don't believe the rest of the universe needs to be ignored. As I've said before, I work with animals .. no such thing as placebo .. I love success. .. and because I love success I'll share with you all Graviola, Andrographis, Chaparral, Neem .. they are all easily obtainable and common herbs that have a great track record against cancer .. also a great success story for about the cost of $60.00. As Rose (on another list) says in her signature .. for those who say it can't be done, please get out of the way of those who are doing it. Mary Lynn Rev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained Minister ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART TTouch . Reiki . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Animal Behavior Modification . Shamanic Spiritual Travel . Behavior Problems . Psionic Energy Practitioner . Radionics . Herbs . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Polarity . The Animal Connection Healing Modalities http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/ http://allcreatureconnections.org From: D. Mindock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel]Closed-Mindedness(WasHypnosisasAnesthesiaWasTestimonials asEvidence) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 20:06:24 -0600 Bob, what you don't understand, you automatically do your quackwatch routine. Asking you to try to go beyond your built-in wall of prejudices is silly of me to ask of you. So I won't. Don't ask for references or science. You have your thoughts on things and that is the final word for you. Science is only a method, a tool, to get something believed to have a chance of being true to be verified. It doesn't explain the leap of intuition that creates the hypothesis in the first place. Homeopathy has been used successfully for quite some time. That science cannot explain it does not mean it is not valid. Science is merely a method. Where did the hypothesis come from? Explain that. Peace and light, D. Mindock - Original Message - From: bob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness(WasHypnosisasAnesthesiaWasTestimonials asEvidence) Sorry but I have to jump in here with the mention of homeopathy. This is the silliest most counter-intuitive medical mubo-jumbo on the planet. there is zero valid support for the idea that something which causes a symptom at high doses (what ever that means) is cured by something at extremely low doses. And I mean extreme. Substances are diluted to 10 to the 120th power and more. At this concentration there is nothing left at all. A little critical thinking goes a long way here. There may be some herbs out there for which there is credible evidence for efficacy, but as far as homeopathy goes- it is nonsense. Marylynn Schmidt wrote: Just my thoughts on the matter of bone (or anything) re-growth .. We are a whole and the whole must be treated so going to a dentist for bone re-growth and/or gum tissue re-growth is as much of a separation of self as seeing the heart specialist for heart problems, the dermatologist for skin problems, etc Your mouth, gums, jaw bone, teeth are still a part of the whole .. nothing is going to exist in isolation inside the human physical body. Do you know a good herbalist? I'm thinking something missing .. but if you have some level of toxic substance as a core problem (don't we all), then homeopathy could be the road. Mary Lynn Rev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained Minister ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART TTouch . Reiki . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Animal Behavior Modification . Shamanic Spiritual Travel . Behavior Problems . Psionic Energy Practitioner . Radionics . Herbs . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Polarity . The Animal Connection Healing Modalities http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/ http://allcreatureconnections.org From: D. Mindock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re:
Re: [Biofuel] Say no to mercury in your teeth
When one considers what would happen to dentistry should they admit mercury is actually toxic and shouldnt be in your mouth we realize it will be a cold day in hell when they do. Either the EPA is right or the dentists are right you cant have it both ways. Frankly I think the toxicity of mercury has been proven and the tobacco industry style argumentation and bogus literature only fools the gullible or those with such a pc mindset they cant see the emperor is naked. The tobacco settlement would be a pittance compared to the dental industry liability. People will kill for far less so for them to tell a lie is to be expected. I would be gob smacked if they didnt.Kirkbob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: or seehttp://www.fda.gov/cdrh/consumer/amalgams.htmlSince the 1990s, FDA and other government agencies (CDC, NIH) have reviewed the scientific literature looking for links between dental amalgams and health problems. To date, the agencies have found no scientific studies that demonstrate dental amalgams harm children or adults. But we continue to review the literature and ask experts their opinions on the safety of dental amalgam.http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ahc-asc/media/nr-cp/1996/1996_63_e.htmlThe statement states that current evidence does not indicate that dental amalgam is causing illness in the general population. It also says that a ban is not justified, and neither is the removal of existing sound amalgam fillings.etc.D. Mindock wrote: When your dentist tells you not to worry about the amalgam he wants to put into your cavity or root canal, show him/her the list below. Peace, D. Mindock http://www.medical-library.net/specialties/framer.html?/specialties/_biological_and_mercury_free_dentistry.html Here in summary form are the essential assertions of mercury and root canal free dentistry accompanied by literature references in cases where there can be any argument. I am indebted to Dr. Robert Gammal and Mr. Leif Hedegard for the organization of this information. 1. Dental Amalgam contains about 50% Mercury. (undisputed) 2. Mercury has been scientifically demonstrated to be more toxic than Lead, Cadmium, or even Arsenic. (undisputed) 3. Mercury leaves dental amalgam continuously throughout the lifetime of the filing.(7) 4. Mercury vapor is the main way that mercury comes out of amalgam.(31) 5. Mercury vapor is absorbed at a rate of 80% through the lungs into the arterial blood. (31, 55) 6. Mercury is cytotoxic, i.e., it kills cells (undisputed) 7. There is NO harmless level of Mercury Vapor Exposure. (63) 8. Mercury from amalgam binds to -SH (sulfhydryl) groups. These exist in almost every enzymatic process in the body. Mercury from amalgam will thus have the potential of disturbing all metabolic processes. ( 25, 33,60). 9. Mercury from amalgam is transported freely via the blood.(19,34,35,) 10. Mercury vapor is absorbed directly into the brain. (34, 55a) 11. Mercury from amalgam will result in a slow build up of mercury in body tissues. (20,26, 34) 12. Mercury crosses the blood brain barrier. (34,55a) 13. Mercury is implicated in the pathogenesis of Alzheimer's Disease. (67,68) 14. Mercury from amalgam is stored in the fetus and infant before the mother. (20,61) 15. Mercury from amalgam is stored in the breast milk and the fetus up to 8 times more than the mother's tissues. (18,19) 16. Mercury (Mercury Vapor / Methyl mercury) crosses the placenta.(18, 31) 17. Mercury Crosses into breast milk.(18,31,61) 18. Mercury will severely reduce reproductive function.(2, 3, 4, 20, 22, 24, 31, 37,38, 39, 40, 41, 49) 19. Mercury rapidly depletes the immune system.(27,34,35,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,60) 20. Mercury will induce a number of Auto Immune Diseases.(27,34,35,42,43,44,60) 21. Mercury will cause an increase in number and severity of allergies.(1,34,60) 22. Mercury from amalgam is stored principally in the kidneys, liver and brain. (1,20,31) 23. Mercury from amalgam (shown in animal experiments) causes kidney damage.(59) 24. Mercury from will cause a 50% reduction in Kidney filtration as shown in a study of sheep after amalgam placement.(59) 25. Methyl Mercury is 100 times more toxic than elemental Mercury. (undisputed) 26. Mercury from amalgam is methylated in the mouth.(51,53,54,) 27. After chewing, Mercury Vapor levels will remain raised for at least another 90 minutes. (1,15,16,18,47) 28. Mercury from amalgam will migrate through the tooth.(25,27,30) 29. This rate of migration is increased if a gold crown is placed over a tooth filled with amalgam. (27,30) 30. Teeth are living tissue and are a part of our bodies. (undisputed) 31. Teeth have a massive communication via blood, lymph and nerves with the rest of the body.(34 32. Mercury from amalgam is absorbed into the body at a rate of 3 to 17 mcg / day. (WHO 1991 Criteria 118) 33. Mercury release is increased by; increases in temperature, friction increase in electrical currents.(28,31,56) 34. Mercury from
Re: [Biofuel] Bio-Gas...i.e. Methane...Marsh Gas...etc.
I can't direct you to any emails or even to a news item I recall. The program outlined how on operation in Kansas recovered methane off it's lagoons, along with using methane from a nearby landfill. I want to recall it was on the Sunflowers journeys produced by KTWU http://ktwu.washburn.edu/journeys/ , but I can't seem to find it. I have also read of hog and dairy operations using biomethane production to power their operations, selling excess electrical power to the power company grid. My guess is even after any methane recovery, the waste may end up as fertilizer, but I really don't know Doug, N0LKK Kansas USA inc. John P Gochoco wrote: Can someone show me a string of emails...or something showing any discussion regarding the production and use of Methane in the US? I pass by huge poultry's and cow and pig farms almost everyday and not one of them ever even thought of the potentials. They all seem to be sold on the idea of just using manure for fertilizer. Maybe I'm wrong...somebody help me!!! ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
