Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?
Dear group And strong believers, to my humble point of view, the most amusing approach to resolve, the conflict between the two large religions the hopefull christianity, and rather extreme Islam, also, to gain some more serene approach towards life here - one must refer to the sorce of these religions, or at list two steps back in the riligion dynasty, to the hebrew bibel - or king james version any way.. and I quote from the book of genesis: (2:15) And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it. now am I dreaming?! - or is this a kind of a biblical way of saying that man is here mainly to 'dress gods salat?' - before criticising me for this most imaginative perspective, bear in mind pleas, that untill after the flood when noah came out of his ark, man was forbidden to eat meat and solely fed on the 'froot and grass of the earth' - also bear in mined, that there is a lot of description of vegeterian food sources that where in the garden of Eden as well. So in conclusion - I can say surely, that a man, how take his role, in this world, to heavily, may ponder upon this verse, and gain a rather, more, sound perspective, on existentialism. yours, Alon. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
Hello All, Did I miss the news? Has there been a significant increase in the price of methanol recently? I just got the bill for a delivery (two 55gal barrels). Previous price ( July): $2.60 USD/gallon; current bill: $3.54 USD/ gallon 35% increase in a few months? I'll call my supplier in a little while ... maybe it's just a billing mistake. I am just hoping someone has some info. Thanks, Tom___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
Think methanol price is strongly dependant of natural gas price which is linked to fuel prices. - Original Message - From: Thomas Kelly To: biofuel Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 10:14 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase? Hello All, Did I miss the news? Has there been a significant increase in the price of methanol recently? I just got the bill for a delivery (two 55gal barrels). Previous price ( July): $2.60 USD/gallon; current bill: $3.54 USD/ gallon 35% increase in a few months? I'll call my supplier in a little while ... maybe it's just a billing mistake. I am just hoping someone has some info. Thanks, Tom -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ __ Visita http://www.tutopia.com y comienza a navegar más rápido en Internet. Tutopia es Internet para todos. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
My price went from 2.02 a gallon last month to 3.08 a gallon this month Logan Vilas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andres Secco Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 7:51 AM To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase? Think methanol price is strongly dependant of natural gas price which is linked to fuel prices. - Original Message - From: Thomas Kelly mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 10:14 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase? Hello All, Did I miss the news? Has there been a significant increase in the price of methanol recently? I just got the bill for a delivery (two 55gal barrels). Previous price ( July): $2.60 USD/gallon; current bill: $3.54 USD/ gallon 35% increase in a few months? I'll call my supplier in a little while ... maybe it's just a billing mistake. I am just hoping someone has some info. Thanks, Tom ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Visita www.tutopia.com http://www.tutopia.com/bannerserving/banman.asp?ZoneID=0BannerID=3174Adve rtiserID=776CampaignID=2424Task=ClickMode=TEXT y comienza a navegar más rápido en Internet. Tutopia es Internet para todos. http://www.tutopia.com/bannerserving/banman.asp?ZoneID=0BannerID=3494Adve rtiserID=776CampaignID=2739Task=GetMode=TEXT ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
I just got off the phone with my methanol supplier. They are in Albany, NY (Northeastern US). They have been very nice people to work with friendly/helpful. I was told that they had a 35% price increase from their supplier, and passed it along. Is this a world-wide phenomenon or just a local/regional thing? Have I been asleep at the wheel? I hadn't heard of any drastic increases in the price of methanol. Tom - Original Message - From: Thomas Kelly To: biofuel Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 8:14 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase? Hello All, Did I miss the news? Has there been a significant increase in the price of methanol recently? I just got the bill for a delivery (two 55gal barrels). Previous price ( July): $2.60 USD/gallon; current bill: $3.54 USD/ gallon 35% increase in a few months? I'll call my supplier in a little while ... maybe it's just a billing mistake. I am just hoping someone has some info. Thanks, Tom -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
Tom, Yep, you missed it, I used to think it followed natural gas prices too but that is not the case unless there is a significant market lag that causes the price to lag about a year behind. Wellhead Gas prices have gone down considerably since last year. Someone mentioned that there was a force majure (sp) at two plants in India this fall. Tsunami effects?? guessing on this one. Conspiracy theories aside. It may have to do with our free market again since Biodiesel production has taken a sharp increase in the US the additional demand on the market could be the cause. this is often the case with finite supplies introduced to new markets overnight - Prices move up. Jim - Original Message - From: Thomas Kellymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuelmailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 6:14 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase? Hello All, Did I miss the news? Has there been a significant increase in the price of methanol recently? I just got the bill for a delivery (two 55gal barrels). Previous price ( July): $2.60 USD/gallon; current bill: $3.54 USD/ gallon 35% increase in a few months? I'll call my supplier in a little while ... maybe it's just a billing mistake. I am just hoping someone has some info. Thanks, Tom ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
I just got this also please see http://www.purchasing.com/article/CA6389243.html Jim From: Thomas Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase? Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 09:44:45 -0500 I just got off the phone with my methanol supplier. They are in Albany, NY (Northeastern US). They have been very nice people to work with friendly/helpful. I was told that they had a 35% price increase from their supplier, and passed it along. Is this a world-wide phenomenon or just a local/regional thing? Have I been asleep at the wheel? I hadn't heard of any drastic increases in the price of methanol. Tom - Original Message - From: Thomas Kelly To: biofuel Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 8:14 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase? Hello All, Did I miss the news? Has there been a significant increase in the price of methanol recently? I just got the bill for a delivery (two 55gal barrels). Previous price ( July): $2.60 USD/gallon; current bill: $3.54 USD/ gallon 35% increase in a few months? I'll call my supplier in a little while ... maybe it's just a billing mistake. I am just hoping someone has some info. Thanks, Tom -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
Jim, Thanks for the reply. I originally got into making biodiesel for environmental reasons. However, I've experienced considerable $ savings . first on fuel for a car and now heating my house/water. I'm spoiled. I have a good, reliable fuel that is much more environmentally friendly than fossil fuels and have been making it at a fraction of the price of fossil fuels. When I started making BD I said: If it (BD) was available around here I wouldn't have to make it ... I'd buy it. Maybe increased demand is driving the price of methanol up. That might be a good thing if it is a sign that biodiesel production is increasing nationally/worldwide if we could include increases in ethanol use, solar wind generated power, the payoff in terms of environment, climate, health, and world harmony may well be worth the price we pay for energy. I'll continue to make my own BD even if the price of production goes up. I've developed a bad case of distrust for oil companies. Best to you, Tom - Original Message - From: JAMES PHELPS To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase? Tom, Yep, you missed it, I used to think it followed natural gas prices too but that is not the case unless there is a significant market lag that causes the price to lag about a year behind. Wellhead Gas prices have gone down considerably since last year. Someone mentioned that there was a force majure (sp) at two plants in India this fall. Tsunami effects?? guessing on this one. Conspiracy theories aside. It may have to do with our free market again since Biodiesel production has taken a sharp increase in the US the additional demand on the market could be the cause. this is often the case with finite supplies introduced to new markets overnight - Prices move up. Jim - Original Message - From: Thomas Kelly To: biofuel Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 6:14 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase? Hello All, Did I miss the news? Has there been a significant increase in the price of methanol recently? I just got the bill for a delivery (two 55gal barrels). Previous price ( July): $2.60 USD/gallon; current bill: $3.54 USD/ gallon 35% increase in a few months? I'll call my supplier in a little while ... maybe it's just a billing mistake. I am just hoping someone has some info. Thanks, Tom ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
Jim, Thanks again. The site you provided answered the question about price Quite a spike. Looks like a combination of demand and decreased production. Continued strong demand and a large number of competitor outages caused an unprecedented shortage of methanol supply in the third quarter that drove spot methanol prices to record highs, said Bruce Aitken, CEO of key supplier Methanex. Tom - Original Message - From: JAMES PHELPS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase? I just got this also please see http://www.purchasing.com/article/CA6389243.html Jim From: Thomas Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase? Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 09:44:45 -0500 I just got off the phone with my methanol supplier. They are in Albany, NY (Northeastern US). They have been very nice people to work with friendly/helpful. I was told that they had a 35% price increase from their supplier, and passed it along. Is this a world-wide phenomenon or just a local/regional thing? Have I been asleep at the wheel? I hadn't heard of any drastic increases in the price of methanol. Tom - Original Message - From: Thomas Kelly To: biofuel Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 8:14 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase? Hello All, Did I miss the news? Has there been a significant increase in the price of methanol recently? I just got the bill for a delivery (two 55gal barrels). Previous price ( July): $2.60 USD/gallon; current bill: $3.54 USD/ gallon 35% increase in a few months? I'll call my supplier in a little while ... maybe it's just a billing mistake. I am just hoping someone has some info. Thanks, Tom -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] [ ] - SPAM Bayesian Re: Methanol Price Increase?
I just sent off a message and I just realized that I got my alcohols mixed up. Water can be reacted with ethylene to form ethanol, not methanol. So I am also at a loss as to why methanol prices would have changed so dramatically. - Original Message - From: JAMES PHELPS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [ ] - SPAM Bayesian Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase? Tom, Yep, you missed it, I used to think it followed natural gas prices too but that is not the case unless there is a significant market lag that causes the price to lag about a year behind. Wellhead Gas prices have gone down considerably since last year. Someone mentioned that there was a force majure (sp) at two plants in India this fall. Tsunami effects?? guessing on this one. Conspiracy theories aside. It may have to do with our free market again since Biodiesel production has taken a sharp increase in the US the additional demand on the market could be the cause. this is often the case with finite supplies introduced to new markets overnight - Prices move up. Jim - Original Message - From: Thomas Kellymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuelmailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 6:14 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase? Hello All, Did I miss the news? Has there been a significant increase in the price of methanol recently? I just got the bill for a delivery (two 55gal barrels). Previous price ( July): $2.60 USD/gallon; current bill: $3.54 USD/ gallon 35% increase in a few months? I'll call my supplier in a little while ... maybe it's just a billing mistake. I am just hoping someone has some info. Thanks, Tom ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
It is my understanding that most of the methanol available in the US is produced from ethylene (petroleum). I'm not surprising that methanol prices have gone up, but, I am surprised it took so long for them to do so. They probably will come back down in the near future since oil prices have moderated. The other way to make methanol is from wood, by way of pyrolysis (destructive heating which also produces charcoal) but this is not commonly done since it is more difficult and costly. - Original Message - From: Thomas Kelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase? Hello All, Did I miss the news? Has there been a significant increase in the price of methanol recently? I just got the bill for a delivery (two 55gal barrels). Previous price ( July): $2.60 USD/gallon; current bill: $3.54 USD/ gallon 35% increase in a few months? I'll call my supplier in a little while ... maybe it's just a billing mistake. I am just hoping someone has some info. Thanks, Tom ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
William, Actually methanol prices have not been directly linked to oil prices. My understanding is that natural gas is the normal feedstock for methanol production. Of course, oil prices do effect distribution costs. I had an interesting discussion with the sales rep. from the chemical supply company I've been getting my methanol from. He mentioned seasonal fluctuations that are fairly predictable ex Here in the US, winter windshield wash contains methanol to prevent freezing. Increased demand in winter causes prices to go up a bit. He said that the current spike in price was related to a dramatic drop in production by a manufacturing plant in the Caribbean and two in India. He said that methanol prices have always been volatile; spikes in price are not uncommon. He could not say when prices will drop back to more normal prices, but seemed quite sure that this was a temporary increase. James Phelps provided a valuable link www.purchasing.com that has price info with explanation for methanol and other items. Tom - Original Message - From: VAN DER SLUYS, WILLIAM [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase? It is my understanding that most of the methanol available in the US is produced from ethylene (petroleum). I'm not surprising that methanol prices have gone up, but, I am surprised it took so long for them to do so. They probably will come back down in the near future since oil prices have moderated. The other way to make methanol is from wood, by way of pyrolysis (destructive heating which also produces charcoal) but this is not commonly done since it is more difficult and costly. - Original Message - From: Thomas Kelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase? Hello All, Did I miss the news? Has there been a significant increase in the price of methanol recently? I just got the bill for a delivery (two 55gal barrels). Previous price ( July): $2.60 USD/gallon; current bill: $3.54 USD/ gallon 35% increase in a few months? I'll call my supplier in a little while ... maybe it's just a billing mistake. I am just hoping someone has some info. Thanks, Tom ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
Just got off the dogbone to my supplier here in south coast of NSW Oz 200liters=$314.15 + GST so wack another10% on Thats all in Oz dollars which is about the equivalent value of monopoly mony William do yop have any info on making it from wood? Leo VAN DER SLUYS, WILLIAM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is my understanding that most of the methanol available in the US is produced from ethylene (petroleum). I'm not surprising that methanol prices have gone up, but, I am surprised it took so long for them to do so. They probably will come back down in the near future since oil prices have moderated. The other way to make methanol is from wood, by way of pyrolysis (destructive heating which also produces charcoal) but this is not commonly done since it is more difficult and costly. - Original Message - From: Thomas Kelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase? Hello All, Did I miss the news? Has there been a significant increase in the price of methanol recently? I just got the bill for a delivery (two 55gal barrels). Previous price ( July): $2.60 USD/gallon; current bill: $3.54 USD/ gallon 35% increase in a few months? I'll call my supplier in a little while ... maybe it's just a billing mistake. I am just hoping someone has some info. Thanks, Tom ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/wood_alcohol.html Jim From: leo bunyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase? Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 09:12:42 +1100 (EST) Just got off the dogbone to my supplier here in south coast of NSW Oz 200liters=$314.15 + GST so wack another10% on Thats all in Oz dollars which is about the equivalent value of monopoly mony William do yop have any info on making it from wood? Leo VAN DER SLUYS, WILLIAM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is my understanding that most of the methanol available in the US is produced from ethylene (petroleum). I'm not surprising that methanol prices have gone up, but, I am surprised it took so long for them to do so. They probably will come back down in the near future since oil prices have moderated. The other way to make methanol is from wood, by way of pyrolysis (destructive heating which also produces charcoal) but this is not commonly done since it is more difficult and costly. - Original Message - From: Thomas Kelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase? Hello All, Did I miss the news? Has there been a significant increase in the price of methanol recently? I just got the bill for a delivery (two 55gal barrels). Previous price ( July): $2.60 USD/gallon; current bill: $3.54 USD/ gallon 35% increase in a few months? I'll call my supplier in a little while ... maybe it's just a billing mistake. I am just hoping someone has some info. Thanks, Tom ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
Of course check the library Thanks Jim JAMES PHELPS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/wood_alcohol.html Jim From: leo bunyan Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase? Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 09:12:42 +1100 (EST) Just got off the dogbone to my supplier here in south coast of NSW Oz 200liters=$314.15 + GST so wack another10% on Thats all in Oz dollars which is about the equivalent value of monopoly mony William do yop have any info on making it from wood? Leo VAN DER SLUYS, WILLIAM wrote: It is my understanding that most of the methanol available in the US is produced from ethylene (petroleum). I'm not surprising that methanol prices have gone up, but, I am surprised it took so long for them to do so. They probably will come back down in the near future since oil prices have moderated. The other way to make methanol is from wood, by way of pyrolysis (destructive heating which also produces charcoal) but this is not commonly done since it is more difficult and costly. - Original Message - From: Thomas Kelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase? Hello All, Did I miss the news? Has there been a significant increase in the price of methanol recently? I just got the bill for a delivery (two 55gal barrels). Previous price ( July): $2.60 USD/gallon; current bill: $3.54 USD/ gallon 35% increase in a few months? I'll call my supplier in a little while ... maybe it's just a billing mistake. I am just hoping someone has some info. Thanks, Tom ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] IRAQ - The Death Squads (Documentary) on Google Video
IRAQ - The Death Squads (Documentary) on Google Video http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2672821173995817383pr=goog-sl Just whom are we supporting? Kirk - Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] FLU SHOTS CONTAIN MERCURY
*SURVEY OF THE WEEK:* *FLU SHOTS CONTAIN MERCURY* A survey of over 9,000 Americans found that an overwhelming majority of people had no idea their flu shots contain mercury. More than 75 percent of Americans feel a mercury-containing flu shot should not be given to a pregnant woman or a child, said Lisa Handley, a founding parent of PutChildrenFirst.org http://alerts.organicconsumers.org/trk/click?ref=zqtbkk3um_0-68x3d2x3169191;, the group that organized the survey. Handley's own son, Jamison, had an adverse reaction to a flu shot containing mercury in 2003. I know firsthand how life-changing a flu shot with mercury can be, since our son began his regression into autism after his flu shot. In 1999, government agencies called for the removal of Thimerosal, the mercury-based preservative in most vaccines. Then, in 2001, the American Academy of Pediatrics stated that, mercury in all of its forms is toxic to the fetus and children. Despite these actions, 90 percent of this season's flu vaccines still contain Thimerosal. *Learn more:* http://www.organicconsumers.org/2006/article_3400.cfm http://alerts.organicconsumers.org/trk/click?ref=zqtbkk3um_0-68x3d3x3169191; ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
