[Biofuel] The Future of the Biofuels mailing list, your input needed.
Good day all; As of this morning, there are 456 subscribers to this list. The recent news of Keith's passing come as sad news to us all and we saw a tiny uptick in traffic over those few days. Since then, we're back to some updates on issues that many of us find interesting by Darryl, and not much else. So, I need to hear from you, as in a *lot* of you if you want to see this list continue. The archives are in place, and as of right now, it's the intention to keep them in place, but I'm uncertain that this list is really serving any further purpose. Keith and I have discussed this very issue many times over the last 5 or so years. I offered to host the list in order to keep it going a few years back. But now that we are no longer blessed with Keith's insights, well, I'm not sure this list is really relevant. So, please respond to this posting with your thoughts. I'll need to hear from a lot of you. --chipper ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
Re: [Biofuel] The Future of the Biofuels mailing list, your input needed.
HI! I use it as a Green News Gatherer... very few times I wrote in it but I do forward some relevant links to people. If it disappears I will miss it Regards, Ivan -Original Message- From: Chip Mefford Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 1:25 PM To: Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] The Future of the Biofuels mailing list,your input needed. Good day all; As of this morning, there are 456 subscribers to this list. The recent news of Keith's passing come as sad news to us all and we saw a tiny uptick in traffic over those few days. Since then, we're back to some updates on issues that many of us find interesting by Darryl, and not much else. So, I need to hear from you, as in a *lot* of you if you want to see this list continue. The archives are in place, and as of right now, it's the intention to keep them in place, but I'm uncertain that this list is really serving any further purpose. Keith and I have discussed this very issue many times over the last 5 or so years. I offered to host the list in order to keep it going a few years back. But now that we are no longer blessed with Keith's insights, well, I'm not sure this list is really relevant. So, please respond to this posting with your thoughts. I'll need to hear from a lot of you. --chipper ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
Re: [Biofuel] The Future of the Biofuels mailing list, your input needed.
I like the list. I used to be very vocal though now I mostly lurk. On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 5:25 AM, Chip Mefford c...@well.com wrote: Good day all; As of this morning, there are 456 subscribers to this list. The recent news of Keith's passing come as sad news to us all and we saw a tiny uptick in traffic over those few days. Since then, we're back to some updates on issues that many of us find interesting by Darryl, and not much else. So, I need to hear from you, as in a *lot* of you if you want to see this list continue. The archives are in place, and as of right now, it's the intention to keep them in place, but I'm uncertain that this list is really serving any further purpose. Keith and I have discussed this very issue many times over the last 5 or so years. I offered to host the list in order to keep it going a few years back. But now that we are no longer blessed with Keith's insights, well, I'm not sure this list is really relevant. So, please respond to this posting with your thoughts. I'll need to hear from a lot of you. --chipper ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
Re: [Biofuel] The Future of the Biofuels mailing list, your input needed.
I can second what Ivan wrote, hope to contribute more in future. On 19.11.2014 14:25, Chip Mefford wrote: Good day all; As of this morning, there are 456 subscribers to this list. The recent news of Keith's passing come as sad news to us all and we saw a tiny uptick in traffic over those few days. Since then, we're back to some updates on issues that many of us find interesting by Darryl, and not much else. So, I need to hear from you, as in a *lot* of you if you want to see this list continue. The archives are in place, and as of right now, it's the intention to keep them in place, but I'm uncertain that this list is really serving any further purpose. Keith and I have discussed this very issue many times over the last 5 or so years. I offered to host the list in order to keep it going a few years back. But now that we are no longer blessed with Keith's insights, well, I'm not sure this list is really relevant. So, please respond to this posting with your thoughts. I'll need to hear from a lot of you. --chipper ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
Re: [Biofuel] The Future of the Biofuels mailing list, your input needed.
I really like getting the updates, and do read almost all of them, though I rarely comment on them. I would hate to see it go. I wish I could contribute more as well, but haven't much in the past few years. Z On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 8:44 AM, kalan gavin.ka...@gmail.com wrote: I can second what Ivan wrote, hope to contribute more in future. On 19.11.2014 14:25, Chip Mefford wrote: Good day all; As of this morning, there are 456 subscribers to this list. The recent news of Keith's passing come as sad news to us all and we saw a tiny uptick in traffic over those few days. Since then, we're back to some updates on issues that many of us find interesting by Darryl, and not much else. So, I need to hear from you, as in a *lot* of you if you want to see this list continue. The archives are in place, and as of right now, it's the intention to keep them in place, but I'm uncertain that this list is really serving any further purpose. Keith and I have discussed this very issue many times over the last 5 or so years. I offered to host the list in order to keep it going a few years back. But now that we are no longer blessed with Keith's insights, well, I'm not sure this list is really relevant. So, please respond to this posting with your thoughts. I'll need to hear from a lot of you. --chipper ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ sustainablelorgbiofuel ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
Re: [Biofuel] The Future of the Biofuels mailing list, your input needed.
Chip, Ditto, I read virtually everything that gets posted but seldom reply as I do not have much to contribute at this moment in time. Nevertheless, I would miss the list if it were to disappear. Doug Turner, Hamilton, ON, Canada - ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
Re: [Biofuel] The Future of the Biofuels mailing list, your input needed.
I think I echo pretty much everybody else's responses thus far. My time is super limited right now, so I have little to contribute. I do see the updates that get posted, though, and read them. Please let us know what you decide. ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
Re: [Biofuel] The Future of the Biofuels mailing list, your input needed.
Chip, I like this list as well. I read/skim all posts. I live in a very pro oil/gas area and I like being informed enough to provide decent debate on issues. Your efforts are certainly appreciated. Michele On Nov 19, 2014, at 6:25 AM, Chip Mefford c...@well.com wrote: Good day all; As of this morning, there are 456 subscribers to this list. The recent news of Keith's passing come as sad news to us all and we saw a tiny uptick in traffic over those few days. Since then, we're back to some updates on issues that many of us find interesting by Darryl, and not much else. So, I need to hear from you, as in a *lot* of you if you want to see this list continue. The archives are in place, and as of right now, it's the intention to keep them in place, but I'm uncertain that this list is really serving any further purpose. Keith and I have discussed this very issue many times over the last 5 or so years. I offered to host the list in order to keep it going a few years back. But now that we are no longer blessed with Keith's insights, well, I'm not sure this list is really relevant. So, please respond to this posting with your thoughts. I'll need to hear from a lot of you. --chipper ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
Re: [Biofuel] The Future of the Biofuels mailing list, your input needed.
I've already made my feelings about this known off-list. Our community and the knowledge we share has matured to the point where there is very little, if any, new information being disseminated about biofuels here. Part of the difficulty is the illegality of distilling ethanol for fuel in most jurisdictions, which makes it nearly impossible for those of us who are running gasoline-powered vehicles to actually DO anything with what we've learned here. (My current truck is a Flex Fuel vehicle, which doesn't do me any good because there is no ethanol available where I live.) I don't see that dynamic changing any time soon. In that respect, we've become a list with only a handful of active members, exchanging very little practical information about the day-to-day use of biofuels. If it weren't for Darryl's contributions, activity on this list would be very scant, and certainly not worth the expense of keeping the list alive. As a long-time member (I'm pretty sure I was among the first to join, back in the Yahoo! days . . .) I believe the biofuels mailing list has outlived its purpose. I'll be sad to see it go, but in reality, this has been inevitable for a long time. Robert Luis Rabello ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
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Hi - I have to admit, I have never contributed to this list However with that said, I have always looked forward to the posts from members. The information, the views, and opinions that I have read over the years has helped shape my own views, and have helped me see the right through the wrong. Archives are perfect for researching information, facts or theories on the hows and whys ... but up to date, current current flows (that are honest, non sugar coated) of information is just so damn rare. I hope the glue that holds this together always will, and I do realize that I have to do my part, to ever claim membership in a community as valuable as this. I WILL CLAIM THAT MEMBERSHIP John Chase Punta Gorda, Florida -Original Message- From: Chip Mefford Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 7:25 AM To: Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] The Future of the Biofuels mailing list,your input needed. Good day all; As of this morning, there are 456 subscribers to this list. The recent news of Keith's passing come as sad news to us all and we saw a tiny uptick in traffic over those few days. Since then, we're back to some updates on issues that many of us find interesting by Darryl, and not much else. So, I need to hear from you, as in a *lot* of you if you want to see this list continue. The archives are in place, and as of right now, it's the intention to keep them in place, but I'm uncertain that this list is really serving any further purpose. Keith and I have discussed this very issue many times over the last 5 or so years. I offered to host the list in order to keep it going a few years back. But now that we are no longer blessed with Keith's insights, well, I'm not sure this list is really relevant. So, please respond to this posting with your thoughts. I'll need to hear from a lot of you. --chipper ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
Re: [Biofuel] The Future of the Biofuels mailing list, your input needed.
I think the list has been little more than a news aggregator for a while now, and there are plenty of other means of achieving that. A chapter has closed for me personally, and without the cut and thrust of active debate and Keith's excellent moderation I think it may be a fitting time to call it a day. This is not a slight on the currently active members, but I personally am just receiving it out of nostalgia at this point. Anyway, that's my 2c... David ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
Re: [Biofuel] The Future of the Biofuels mailing list, your input needed.
Chip, Please retain my address on this list Thank you for your efforts. Todd BramanYakima, Washington, USA On Wednesday, November 19, 2014 4:26 AM, Chip Mefford c...@well.com wrote: Good day all; As of this morning, there are 456 subscribers to this list. The recent news of Keith's passing come as sad news to us all and we saw a tiny uptick in traffic over those few days. Since then, we're back to some updates on issues that many of us find interesting by Darryl, and not much else. So, I need to hear from you, as in a *lot* of you if you want to see this list continue. The archives are in place, and as of right now, it's the intention to keep them in place, but I'm uncertain that this list is really serving any further purpose. Keith and I have discussed this very issue many times over the last 5 or so years. I offered to host the list in order to keep it going a few years back. But now that we are no longer blessed with Keith's insights, well, I'm not sure this list is really relevant. So, please respond to this posting with your thoughts. I'll need to hear from a lot of you. --chipper ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
Re: [Biofuel] The Future of the Biofuels mailing list, your input needed.
I also read news here I wouldn't otherwise get. But that depends on the willingness of those who share to continue doing so. Thanks for more than a decade of insight! Eric On Nov 19, 2014, at 12:15 PM, robert rabello rabe...@shaw.ca wrote: Chip, Ditto, I read virtually everything that gets posted but seldom reply as I do not have much to contribute at this moment in time. Nevertheless, I would miss the list if it were to disappear. Doug Turner, Hamilton, ON, Canada - ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
Re: [Biofuel] The Future of the Biofuels mailing list, your input needed.
I've been happily reading many comments and postings over the years. I don't need to continue on this list. Deborah Howard Glastonbury, CT On Nov 19, 2014, at 7:25 AM, Chip Mefford wrote: Good day all; As of this morning, there are 456 subscribers to this list. The recent news of Keith's passing come as sad news to us all and we saw a tiny uptick in traffic over those few days. Since then, we're back to some updates on issues that many of us find interesting by Darryl, and not much else. So, I need to hear from you, as in a *lot* of you if you want to see this list continue. The archives are in place, and as of right now, it's the intention to keep them in place, but I'm uncertain that this list is really serving any further purpose. Keith and I have discussed this very issue many times over the last 5 or so years. I offered to host the list in order to keep it going a few years back. But now that we are no longer blessed with Keith's insights, well, I'm not sure this list is really relevant. So, please respond to this posting with your thoughts. I'll need to hear from a lot of you. --chipper ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
Re: [Biofuel] The Future of the Biofuels mailing list, your input needed.
I have been a member of this list since the beginning of the old Journey to Forever days and have been intrigued and informed throughout. I was especially saddened by Keith's passing as I knew and worked with him in his early days as a journalist in Cape Town. Keith always welcomed off-biofuel topics e.g political, environmental and social as leaveners to what would otherwise have been a preponderance of technology and chemistry topics. Keith was careful never to delete posts that were relevant to almost anything of concern to those open to debate on any subject. He of course was quick to spot trolls and their spoiling tactics and cut them off after an initial warning. Now that Darryl has stepped into the breach to keep the list going I read his postings avidly. My point: let's not kill the golden goose that provides such food for thought. Bob Molloy, Kerikeri, New Zealand. ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
Re: [Biofuel] The Future of the Biofuels mailing list, your input needed.
Ok, How about Putin's speech at the Valdai conference in Sochi. here is the link at Club Orlov http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2014/10/putin-to-western-elites-play-time-is.html#more On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 9:50 PM, deborah howard dhowar...@cox.net wrote: I've been happily reading many comments and postings over the years. I don't need to continue on this list. Deborah Howard Glastonbury, CT On Nov 19, 2014, at 7:25 AM, Chip Mefford wrote: Good day all; As of this morning, there are 456 subscribers to this list. The recent news of Keith's passing come as sad news to us all and we saw a tiny uptick in traffic over those few days. Since then, we're back to some updates on issues that many of us find interesting by Darryl, and not much else. So, I need to hear from you, as in a *lot* of you if you want to see this list continue. The archives are in place, and as of right now, it's the intention to keep them in place, but I'm uncertain that this list is really serving any further purpose. Keith and I have discussed this very issue many times over the last 5 or so years. I offered to host the list in order to keep it going a few years back. But now that we are no longer blessed with Keith's insights, well, I'm not sure this list is really relevant. So, please respond to this posting with your thoughts. I'll need to hear from a lot of you. --chipper ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
