[Biofuel] Ordering pizza in the near future
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[Biofuel] Acetone as a diesel additive?
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Re: [Biofuel] rigged voting machines was Oil and democracy -was-Scientific method
That explains why all of the exit polls showed Kerry a clear leader, and when W was told he was losing in the exit polls he showed no sign of reaction. - Original Message - From: Alt.EnergyNetwork [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 6:23 PM Subject: [Biofuel] rigged voting machines was Oil and democracy -was-Scientific method It might be a good idea to get rid of those nasty Diebolt rigged voting machines that left no paper trail. During the election the ceo of that co, told Bush I'll deliver Ohio. On a similar note, a local professor obtained the machine code for the units and had his students analize it. They found that it used an encryption key that had been discontinued in 1994 and was easily hackable by phone line. Might want to leave a proper paper trail next time, so at least the count can be verified for irregularities. Get your daily alternative energy news Alternate Energy Resource Network 1000+ news sources-resources updated daily http://www.alternate-energy.net ---Original Message--- From: Chip Mefford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Oil and democracy -was-Scientific method Sent: 27 Oct '05 16:16 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul S Cantrell wrote: The last 2 elections would have probably gone the other way if it were simple majority. I think the concerns over time zones and the like could be worked out and we might have more than 2 twin parties. Personally, I think some simple changes would fix a lot of what is currently borked in the US political system. Debates for instance, pretty much all public debating (meaning televised) is done of, by and for the Twin Partys. This should cease immediately. This much of the system process would be well served by true open debate, including by design third or fringe party candidates. I think this alone would be easy to handle under law. I think it could make a huge difference. I concurr that the electoral college system is also borked, however, the simple majority system is also deeply flawed. Folks try to look at things as if there were red and blue states (because it's the state vote that counts). But it isn't red and blue states, it's urban vs rural. http://brianhayes.com/2005/09/red-blue-rural-urban.html in a popular election, the urbanites would win outright. Policy would be set by those living furthest from the elemental necessities of existance. blah blah blah. The Twin Party system is very much a very real problem. imho, the democrats have nothing to offer, they (at the top tiers) represent a life that I know little of. The republicans have nothing to offer, they (at the top tiers) represent a power structure that has no grasp on what the philosophic common man has to face in day to day life, AT ALL. The Libertarians (with a capitol L) have become the party of I've got mine, and whatever I do to keep it is okay, you don't matter, at all. America, the US, is hardly a united states at all. It is a chain (as it's nicely worded in the Urban Archipelago) of islands. I'm just old enough to have spent a few formative years hitchhiking around America, in some ways too many years, in other ways, not enough. But in those days people still hitchhiked, and still met all kinds of folks. Now, no one hitchhikes, but everyone jabbers on cellphones, ignoring the person standing next to them in line. blah blah blah. - -- Get your daily alternative energy news Alternate Energy Resource Network http://www.alternate-energy.net 1000+ news sources - resources updated daily next_generation_grid http://groups.yahoo.com/group/next_generation_grid news resources forums tomorrow-energy http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tomorrow-energy Alternative Energy Politics http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Alternative_Energy_Politics/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Peugeot 505 four cylinder turbo charged diesel
There is diesel Peuggie for sale on ebay, too. - Original Message - From: Doug Foskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Peugeot 505 four cylinder turbo charged diesel There ia an Australian Peugeot (and other French cars) list: Aussiefrogs I suggest you consider joining, as there are some very knowledgeable buffs on the list. regards Doug (Peugeot 405SRDT: great car!) On Saturday 08 October 2005 3:12, Keith Addison wrote: October 7, 2005 Hi everyone After three months of wishy washy thinking and anxiety over money to invest in my biodiesel project, this very moment my dream has been realized. I am now the proud owner of a 1981 Peugeot 505 four cylinder turbo charged diesel vehicle! I know what you are thinking, I'm thinking Bravo! Well done! Good for you! Maybe I'm not the only one. See: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_404.html The best car in the world :-) A 505 is just a 404 in drag, they're great! A friend of mine drove one from London to Johannesburg, way back before they invented roads and stuff. Best of good luck with it Brian, I hope you get all the problems licked. Keith What's a American good ol' boy' doing with a Peugeot? Well, it is a long story, the short version is: If we live our lives in a spiritually wholesome and environmentally friendly fashion, we can expect good things to come to us. We don't need much and we have patience. Anyway, I said this is the short version right? We now have this car sitting here at the Ranch in northeastern New Mexico. It has only one mechanical problem that I can see; It is very hard to start, when it finally does it bellows blue-white smoke, and the coolant lines slowly begin to pressurize. The radiator hoses balloon up, very scary and we shut it down before they blow. At first glance it looks like a leaking head gasket. It is now sitting in front of my little workshop and I am so excited to finally have a car that I can make my own biodiesel for. Nevertheless, my rash days are past and I am content to ask first before I tear into anything mechanically. I ask for information. I am relatively new to Biofuels, but I do have a fine set of Mechanics tools, much updated from the days long ago when I was a factory trained VW mechanic. Please don't give me the negative perspective. If you do, I can take it. But I still have that wonderful glow a guy gets when he gets a new car to refurbish. How's that line go? Sing me the bad news! So far I have zero cash investment in this really cute little car. I have three Mercedes gas powered monsters which have been steadily moving closer to the ranch dump. I toyed with the idea of buying a 1982 300 Turbo Sedan that a friend has offered for $2000.00. I don't like the body style, too heavy, and we couldn't afford it anyway. This Peugeot is almost 1000 pounds lighter than my 1980 480SE. And damn, did I say it is sleek and in mint condition? So yeah that's the good news. Anybody out there have any experience with these? Looks like a very clean engine, but that may be because the radiator already washed it off with a steam bath. I have extended experience with petrol vehicles. My tools are metric and I love to read first then spin nuts after I at least think I understand. Diesel engines, this is only my second. I won't say what I did to the first one. I intend to make this motor sing again! So, I have heard of carbon buildup in the cylinders causing issues in dino-diesel motors. Any ideas? Things I could check. I suppose checking the compression through the spark plug holes is out of the question, lol. I will be looking for the factory service manual, unless it is written in French of course. Nah, I have factory service literature on the Benz and it is not in German. See how wishy washy I have become? Maybe it is the fog this morning, yeah fog in New Mexico, go figure. They have fog in France right? So how did my bio-diesel processing chemicals and WVO collecting go this week? Not well, physically. I talked it up pretty good, whatever that is worth. I think I know what I need to find for the test batches. A couple of little bottles of Heet (methanol). Blue or yellow? There is a bit of confusion in the biofuel group about this, and a jar of Red Devil drain opener (lye.) A five gallon can for transporting the WVO back to the ranch and a 12 volt pump for filling my container at the rear of the Mc Donald's. Oh, and I have to ask Vince, the owner of the local McDonald's, if is ok to use some of the WVO from his business. Ok, I am so excited about our new diesel that I am totally torn between writing and thinking about it and going out into the fog and startingÖ something, anythingÖ How about learning? Sincerely, Brian Rodgers ___ Biofuel mailing list
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Disappearing Antiwar Protests
This is nothing new.I attended 3 rallies in DC back before we invaded Iraq (we had already been bombing the S**T out of them) Upon returnign home, we saw there was little or no coverage, and even if there was, there were reports of several thousand marchers when if fact the true amount was several hundred thousand. The mainstream media is truly in the hands of the Bush regime, and nobody or no entity is allowed to criticize him, and those that do suffer miserably or get stifled by a biased press. - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 1:22 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Fwd: Disappearing Antiwar Protests http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2677 Disappearing Antiwar Protests Media shrug off mass movement against war 9/27/05 Hundreds of thousands of Americans around the country protested the Iraq War on the weekend of September 24-25, with the largest demonstration bringing between 100,000 and 300,000 to Washington, D.C. on Saturday. But if you relied on television for your news, you'd hardly know the protests happened at all. According to the Nexis news database, the only mention on the network newscasts that Saturday came on the NBC Nightly News, where the massive march received all of 87 words. (ABC World News Tonight transcripts were not available for September 24, possibly due to pre-emption by college football.) Cable coverage wasn't much better. CNN, for example, made only passing references to the weekend protests. CNN anchor Aaron Brown offered an interesting explanation (9/24/05): There was a huge 100,000 people in Washington protesting the war in Iraq today, and I sometimes today feel like I've heard from all 100,000 upset that they did not get any coverage, and it's true they didn't get any coverage. Many of them see conspiracy. I assure you there is none, but it's just the national story today and the national conversation today is the hurricane that put millions and millions of people at risk, and it's just kind of an accident of bad timing, and I know that won't satisfy anyone but that's the truth of it. To hear Brown tell it, a 24-hour cable news channel is somehow unable to cover more than one story at a time-- and the national conversation is something that CNN just listens in on, rather than helping to determine through its coverage choices. The following day (9/25/05), the network's Sunday morning shows had an opportunity to at least reflect on the significance of the anti-war movement. With a panel consisting of three New York Times columnists, Tim Russert mentioned the march briefly in one question to Maureen Dowd-- which ended up being about how the antiwar movement might affect Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential chances. On ABC's This Week, host George Stephanopoulos observed, We've seen polls across the board suggesting that we're bogged down now in Iraq and now you have this growing protest movement. Do you believe that we're reaching a tipping point in public opinion? That question was put to pro-war Republican Sen. John McCain, who responded by inaccurately claiming: Most polls I see, that most Americans believe still that we have to stay the course I certainly understand the dissatisfaction of the American people but I think most of them still want to stay the course and we have to. A recent CBS/New York Times poll (9/9-13/05) found 52 percent support for leaving Iraq as soon as possible. A similar Gallup poll (9/16-18) found that 33 percent of the public want some troops withdrawn, with another 30 percent wanting all the troops withdrawn. Only 34 percent wanted to maintain or increase troop levels--positions that could be described as wanting to stay the course. Stephanopoulos, however, failed to challenge McCain's false claim. (An L.A. Times recap of the protests--9/25/05-- included a misleading reference to the Gallup poll, reporting that while the war is seen as a mistake by 59 percent of respondents, There remains, however, widespread disagreement about the best solution. The same poll showed that 30 percent of Americans favored a total troop withdrawal, though 26 percent favored maintaining the current level. By leaving out the 33 percent of those polled who wanted to decrease troop numbers, the paper gave a misleading impression of closely divided opinion.) On Fox News Sunday (9/25/05), panelist Juan Williams was rebuked by his colleagues when he noted that public opinion had turned in favor of pulling out of Iraq. Fellow Fox panelist and NPR reporter Mara Liasson responded, Oh, I don't think that's true, a sentiment echoed by Fox panelist Brit Hume. When Williams brought up the Saudi foreign minister's statement that foreign troops were not helping to stabilize Iraq, panelist William Kristol retorted: So now the American left is with the House of Saud. (That was, if anything, a more complimentary
[Biofuel] Is this fraud?
I dont think this guy realizes how fraudulent his ad is. This is NOT biodiesel, just WVO and dino mixed. http://cgi.ebay.com/Bio-Diesel-Biodiesel-Kit-Fuel-for-15-cents-a-gallon_W0QQitemZ5997737337QQcategoryZ3240QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] New question was The myths of Hiroshima
If its one of those old brass hand-held blow torches it uses kerosene. - Original Message - From: clark creamer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 12:17 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] New question was The myths of Hiroshima First post If you're talking WWII style or Vietnam style flamethrower then you're talking Napalm...heh. ~Clark On 8/7/05, Tom Irwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I passed by the local used everything store and saw an old style blowtorch. It looked like it was in working order and cost next to nothing. I immediately though now that would make a nice preheater to boil off any excess water in my waste vegetable oil. If this is in the archives I´m sorry but it´s early and I haven´t had my morning cup yet. What the heck did they use to fuel these suckers? Do you think it can run on BioD or glycerine byproduct? Thanks, Tom From: Garth Kim Travis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 15:40:16 -0300 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] The myths of Hiroshima Greetings Tom, Yes, many of us would not be here. Canadian forces were also training for that invasion. I was always taught that it was the code of death before dishonor that made the bombing necessary. I am not saying that is correct, but I wonder how scared of Russia anyone would have been by that time in the war. As I understand it, one of the things the Russian people hated America for was the long wait before they joined, which allowed Russia to be seriously depleted. I do understand that the Japanese were already commandeering cooking pots etc. for metal to make weapons, so they must have known the end was in sight, but that had been going on for long enough to scare many people into believing they would not surrender, period. It is easy to start myths during war time, people are so scared and the average person is not told much of the truth for good reasons, many times. I see it today, so many people are so scared of terrorism and have no idea of how it started. How does one educate a population that is now in it's second or third generation of ignorance of history, science, math, philosophy and common sense? Bright Blessings, Kim At 01:23 PM 8/5/2005, you wrote: Hi All, Although I'm in agreement about the Enola Gay exhibit, I will have to disagree about the use of the bombs. As slightly more modern barbarians we really have no idea of the mindset of Japan's WWII government. Perhaps Keith can give his insights since he lives close by. My reading of that history is that Japan's military had a stranglehold on the government. That their way was the Bushido way. There's a lot of death before dishonor in that line of thinking. My father related many stories to me of the kamakazi attacks during the invasion of Okinawa. That they were ineffective does not discount their willingness to die. There were a lot fewer prisoners taken in the Pacific war. Some of that was certainly racism on our side but a fairly good piece of it wasn't. I've spoken with many veterans from that campaign. Many reasonable men told me quite frankly that the Japanese would rather die than surrender. If they could die taking a few of their enemy with them all the better. If this willingness to die was prevelent in their armed forces I think one can make the jump that if the home islands were attacked that our casualties would be very high. Perhaps not the million so often quoted but if it was only a quarter of that, many of us who are currently alive would never have been born. My father was in training for the invasion when the bombs were dropped. He told me everyone on board his troop transport breathed a sigh of relief when they realized they would not have to invade. I personally have no use for nuclear technology or nuclear weapons and am fully against them. But the truth be told, I'm here today because they were used and we haven't had a world war since thier invention. my two cents for the day, Tom Irwin From: Appal Energy [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 14:21:01 -0300 Subject: [Biofuel] The myths of Hiroshima http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-bird5aug05,0,760322.story The myths of Hiroshima By Kai Bird and Martin J. Sherwin, KAI BIRD and MARTIN J. SHERWIN are coauthors of American Prometheus: The Triumph and Tragedy of J. Robert Oppenheimer, published earlier this year by Knopf. SIXTY YEARS ago tomorrow, an atomic bomb was dropped without warning on the center of the Japanese city of Hiroshima. One hundred and forty thousand people were killed, more than 95% of them women and children and other noncombatants. At least
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: pocket bike USD85.00 (hot sale)
Well, on a similar note, I just received the crate with my 6 hp diesel engine. Now I need to set about finding an appropriate motorcycle to convert. I like the Enfield Bullet, but its hard finding a donor bike in the States thats not a restored vintage bike (e.g. $$$) I also need to determine the transmission- either belt torque converter (same as snowmobile) or an existing bike with a non-unit trans (Enfield or early BSA) I may wind up with an older Honda or Kawasaki, around 350cc. I will keep you posted. - Original Message - From: Bede [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 3:11 AM Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Fwd: pocket bike USD85.00 (hot sale) Yeah I want one too, in NZ you can get them registered as mopeds, of course if some enterprising soul put together a diesel engine for them, just think how many kids would get to learn about making there own alternative fuels... they come in a verity of styles, choppers, quads, dirt bikes etc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Mullan Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 6:53 AM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Fwd: pocket bike USD85.00 (hot sale) Hell, I'm 44 and would love to try one. Too bad there isn't any reasonable place to ride one around here. Hmmm, maybe I should pick up a few acres outside of town -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Keith Addison Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 10:51 AM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: pocket bike USD85.00 (hot sale) i'd be curious to know more (specs, pics) about any scooters they have. -chris b. Hi Chris Not really scooters, little motorbikes, though they call them scooters, laws I suppose. If they're anything like these you can see why kids would go for them: http://www.cyphergames.com/49damx3pobi.html Anyway, write and ask: Scincy.Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Anybody have a vw engine (pre electronic injectorcontrol)
Chris What do you base your criteria on as far as not liking the VW? They have a great ride compared to the Japanese, very stable at cruising speeds (70-80) and you just cant beat 50 MPG, let alone the 40 I get just driving around town. I love my '00 Golf TDi and hope to do a Greasel conversion soon. I wish there were more options, I get jealous when I hear list members talk about their diesel Jeep Cherokees, and sad when I see Chevy sells a diesel Blazer in South America. This country is still in their "stinky no good Diesel" phase but we who see the vast superiority of diesel cars will be ahead of everyone else. I suggest going on Fred's TDi page and see how many folks really enjoy this great little car. http://www.tdiclub.com/ - Original Message - From: Chris To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Anybody have a vw engine (pre electronic injectorcontrol) What kind of mileage do those old (70s) engines get? I was thinking about selling my car and getting a new golf TDI, maybe a '00 or something slightly older. I'm not sure. I wish there were more options as far as diesels go. I must admit I'm not a big VW fan. I really wishI could import something from europe. It'd take more money than i have just to get it to pass EPA emissions standards though. Chris N. - Original Message - From: Nancy Canning To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Anybody have a vw engine (pre electronic injectorcontrol) I have a great oldie but goodie one off a 71 rabbit, been keeping it for a spare(currently driving a 70) but it's not out of the car. It runs great though, it would be easy to hook a battery up and start it up for you, so you could see for yourself.- Original Message - From: "David L Wood" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 7:24 AMSubject: [Biofuel] Anybody have a vw engine (pre electronic injector control) how about a 1981 VW already removed from vehicle. I had to scrap the car. David ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] fuel efficient cars and motorcycles
Hi Chris Gearing may be through a trans or torque converter belt drive (snowmobile) I have a Norton Commando basket case with a tranny (these bikes were not "unit" engines, the trans is seperate)I imagine using a smaller bike such as Honda 350cc or so.There areseveral bike shops nearby who may have one sitting around I can use asa donor .I read on Biofuel about someone who put a 10 hp diesel in a Geo Metro. It took all day to get it up to 55 MPH, but it got well over 100 MPG. So 6 hp ,may be adequate. I plan on using it as a commuter, as I live 3 miles from work. - Original Message - From: Chris To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 10:04 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] fuel efficient cars and motorcycles Wow, cool. Thats really interesting, i'm big into engines and mechcanics in general. Will 6HP be enough, or by motorcycle do you mean large scooter? What about gearing? what bike are you planning on putting it in? - Original Message - From: Busyditch To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] fuel efficient cars and motorcycles Ha I guess this is called Synchronicity. I just won this diesel engine onebay and plan on installing it in a motorcycle frame. I do not have a donorbike yet, but I do have some ideas.http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=29520item=4367731706rd=1- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Friday, July 01, 2005 9:46 PMSubject: Re: [Biofuel] fuel efficient cars and motorcycles todd, that's awesome! curiously, i've been pondering this very concept--a diesel-powered motorbike--recently. i figured it had to have been done somewhere by someone. best fo luck! -chris b. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] fuel efficient cars and motorcycles
Ha I guess this is called Synchronicity. I just won this diesel engine on ebay and plan on installing it in a motorcycle frame. I do not have a donor bike yet, but I do have some ideas. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=29520item=4367731706rd=1 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 9:46 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] fuel efficient cars and motorcycles todd, that's awesome! curiously, i've been pondering this very concept--a diesel-powered motorbike--recently. i figured it had to have been done somewhere by someone. best fo luck! -chris b. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Mid '60s Mercedes 200D - Suitable Biodiesel-mobile?
Ken About the only 2 concerns you may have are the possible failure of non-neoprene rubber parts in the injector pump. Any rebuild kit would remedy this as the new parts would surely be made from neoprene. The other issue would be the loosening of debris/swarth in the tank and fuel lines. Imagine 30 years of sludge suddenly being stripped from the tank and lines and headed to your engine, like an unclogged blood clot. It would be benificial to change the fuel filter at least twice or three times in the first month of B100 use. - Original Message - From: Ken Dunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 5:09 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Mid '60s Mercedes 200D - Suitable Biodiesel-mobile? I have stumbled across the above for a good price and I would like to know if this vehicle will run biodiesel suitably. Can anyone provide some insight? Thanks a bunch, Ken ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] 1995 Chevrolet 6.5 litre Turbo-Diesel - Opinions
I looked at one for sale but found a lot of blowby in the crankcase (compression loss around cylinder walls resulting in pressure in the crankcase) The dealer had removed the tube from the PCV valve and there was oily smoke blowing out. I couldnt get in my car fast enough! These engines are real workhorses, and I was told about a few bugs. One is a sensor mounted on the injector pump is prone to failure due to the high heat.A relocation kit is available. Also, there is a cooling system design flaw that has certain parts of the engine overheating. A retrokit is available that includes 2 thermostats and a newer designed water pump, usually sold on ebay. I cant say about running them on biodiesel, but I also would like to know, as I plan on a conversion as soon as I buy a truck - Original Message - From: Darryl McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 6:21 PM Subject: [Biofuel] 1995 Chevrolet 6.5 litre Turbo-Diesel - Opinions I have a line on a diesel pickup truck, which I naturally want to run on biodiesel. I have a few things to look at by way of research tomorrow. The archives seem inconclusive on this engine - vaguely in favour (thread including message 9021 and others). I will also be reading at www.thedieselpage.com and at least one other site I have bookmarked. However, for now, does anyone have experience with these engines, especially on biodiesel? Any issues? Success? Thanks in advance. -- Darryl McMahon http://www.econogics.com/ It's your planet. If you won't look after it, who will? ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Diesel engine the size of a building
Check this out! http://www.bath.ac.uk/~ccsshb/12cyl/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Tritrating with Phenol Red
Where is a good place to look for phenolphthalein? Right here on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=413item=6169232197rd=1 - Original Message - From: Ken Dunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 10:43 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Tritrating with Phenol Red Hi all, First, let me say that I know that I'm not supposed to use phenol red for the purposes of titration but, I had some and figured I'd have a crack at it while I attempt to find a source for phenolphthalein. I did so using the Better Titration method. I had taken my lye (Glug brand) and two ziplock baggies to the pharmacy where they were most inviting and pleased to measure it for me. I squeezed all the air out (or so I thought) then zipped and folded the bag and placed it inside the second. I was sad to find a bit of moisture in the bag when I opened it today. Again, I figured that I might as well give it a whirl whilst I also await the arrival of my scale via the boys in brown. I mixed my lye, thoroughly, with the water in a glass container and then took 5ml of that along with another 45ml of water. I recently found Uni-Fide brand Fuel System Dryer which claims to be anhydrous isopropyl alcohol at a very good price down at the local flea market. I combined the alcohol and soy oil and two drops of phenol red. However, as I was adding drops of the lye solution to the oil solution, it quickly turned from a very pale yellow to pink to milky pink. Being not sure if two drops would provide a similar affect to two drops of phenolphthalein, I decided to add two more drops of phenol red...and two more after that... This did not yield much better results but a slight change in color could be seen. Of course, I monkeyed with it more from there but, not seriously. Once the mixture became cloudy, it stayed that way. However, it did clear up a bit when I replaced the warm water bath with fresh hot water. I figured a query to the list would probably save me of wasting too much time. So, should I have expected what I saw? Is it possible to get even close with phenol red? What is a guy to do with with titration cocktail after he gets the requisite measurement? I'd drink it but all that blindness followed by death doesn't sound pleasant. Thanks in advance, Ken ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] What's Good For GM?
It had already led a successful effort to destroy the streetcar system in America's cities in order to force people to buy cars, rather than take public transportation. GM later spent decades battling efforts to reduce tailpipe pollution emissions that caused public health problems throughout the nation. I had always heard that the effort to buy and dismantle the trolley cars was to promote the use of busses, which were all powered by Detroit Diesel engines made by GM. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Kerosene
A coworker, upon hearing of the Greasel kit, commented that as a boy his farm had an International tractor that ran on a dual tank system. It started on gasoline, and when warmed up, there was a valve to switch over to kero. He said it was hell to pay for the person who forgot to switch back before shutting the engine down for the night. - Original Message - From: malcolm maclure [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:52 AM Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Kerosene Hi Chris, Certainly blend it with bioD - I would tend to have a higher proportion of bioD than 50/50 though, just to be safe. On no account use straight kero - in time it will wreck your diesel pump as it does not have the lubrication properties of dinoD or bioD. Kero will not work in a petrol engine because of its low carburetion properties - my father a fellow student however, during post war rationing, had an Austin 7 regularly had to drive to from Leicester to St. Andrews where he was at uni studying medicine. The journey would have used up a years worth of petrol rations. So they begged extra petrol from family blended it with kero acetone to make up the volume. He said it ran really well on the mix but tended to billow clouds of white smoke under power. I don't suppose modern petrol engines would be quite so forgiving for such a mix. Cheers Malcolm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Kelly Sent: 07 April 2005 09:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Biofuel] Kerosene I have been offered by an aviation industry service mob, up to 1500litres of free kerosene. Aparently, this comes from some sort of turbine, and when the fuel tank has a problem, they drain it and are not allowed to reuse it. They are literally giving it away, I just have to collect it. Can kerosene be used as an alternative fuel in diesel or petrol cars? If not I'll have plenty of kero for heating my WVO Chris Kelly ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] 271 Diesel Generators
Here it is-2-71 GenSet on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=42908item=7504543930rd=1 ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] 271 Diesel Generators
Here is my two cents: The Detroit Diesel 71 (and 92)series is a somewhat antiquated two-stroke design. The engines come in various straight configurations from 2-71 all the way to 6-71 and 8-71's, as well as 8V71's.(those stinky noisy bus engines) or modularized into huge 12V's and 16V's for generators or saw mills. The number 71, . (and 92)denotes cubic inches per cylinder, so a 6-71 is 427 cubic inches. They all utilize a supercharger (popular among early hot rodders) in order to move the spent exhaust gasses from the cylinder and allow a fresh charge of air in for combustion.(there are no conventional intake or exhaust valve, just an exhaust port at the bottom of the piston stroke in the cylinder wall.) Be forewarned- these engines are extremely noisy and also produce an inordinate amount of smoke, they are on the EPA hit list and are no longer available as truck engines in this country due to their poor pollution stats. These regulations dont apply to stationary power plants so new engines are being built for this purpose only. I guess the same caution applies as all other diesel engines- certain rubber parts in the fuel pump or injector pump may be subject to failure when coming into contact with Biodiesel, so be careful.Also, when calculationg in the cost of a rebuild, include a supercharger rebuild kit, the blower has screw type vane rotors with long seals on the edges. I would love to have one as an auxiliary supply for my weekend house, so please post a source for them. I saw a similar genset on ebay with a 3-71 , may be the same folks. Thanks to you all john - Original Message - From: Randall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] 271 Diesel Generators disengage lurker mode Count me in too! Do you have a link or contact info? engage lurker mode ROY Washbish wrote: Jeremy If this turns out to be good I sure am interested in buying one. 23 KW DIESEL is just what I'm looking for. Thanks Roy Jeremy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have found a source for 20Kw General Motors 271 that have come off of Union Pacific Railroad cars. The hours are unkown, but is assumed that they were well taken care of as they refrigerated railroad cars. They are all tested and painted. Apperently someone bought 2300 of them, and is selling them for a few grand. Is this a desirable motor for biofuel or in general, can someone who is running them testify to their value- even if you don't know the hours. Rebuild is reported to be very easy, full rebuild kits with pistons cost 400. Thanks for any respones. Jeremy ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Roy Washbish Certified Health Coach A HOME BUSINESS PRODUCTS THAT WORK PRODUCTS BUSINESS HTTP://WWW.TRIVITA.COM/11393920 - Do you Yahoo!? Better first dates. More second dates. Yahoo! Personals ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel processor
Someone posted a link a few months back to a person building just such a trailer and selling it on ebay.I believe he was in Pennsylvania. He hasnt had any up for a while, as I have been looking , but he may be coerced into building another. Maybe someone else has this link? I did not save it. - Original Message - From: Craig Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 4:42 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Biodiesel processor I am looking for a processor that I can pull around the Denver area on a trailer promoting biodiesel! Craig Harris ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Biofuel available in NY City
Hello list members I just got a reply from a local manufacturer of Biodiesel in the NY metropolitan area. They are called Environmental Alternatives, and theyre located in Brooklyn, NY. I was hoping to buy in 55 gal drums, as I do have a secure yard to store them in and all I will need is a drum pump. At the price quoted, I will surely be able to afford to end my dependency on fossil fuels. Here is the quote from the email we sell B100 in 55 gal drums at $2.50 a gallon + freight... Bob Lindenbaum Director of Probabilities Voice: 718.972.2156 Cell: 917.699.8877 Fax: 718.972.2037 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Environmental Alternatives 1225 39th Street Brooklyn NY 11218 ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Ishmael/ was: Too many People
This is an excellent book! I recommend it to everyone. It certainly opened up my eyes in the way I think, and the way I live my life. I was going through a divorce at the time and it put a lot into perspective. - Original Message - From: Marylynn Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 9:10 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Ishmael/ was: Too many People For those of you that have not had the opportunity to read Ishmael by Daniel Quinn .. and you are interested in this subject .. then reading this is a must. The way I think .. and why I think that must be understood before I can begin to understand the concept of change. If I can begin to grasp the programming that goes into my thinking, perhaps I can begin to re-think .. or just actually begin to think. Most of what I do is react based upon a lifetime of programming .. and that doesn't really take me very far down the road. Mary Lynn Mary Lynn Schmidt ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART TTouch . Animal Behavior Modification . Behavior Problems . Ordained Minister . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Radionics . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Herbs. . Polarity . Reiki . Spiritual Travel The Animal Connection Healing Modalities http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/ From: Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] was: Too many People Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 17:50:10 -0800 on 3/9/05 5:23 PM, Hakan Falk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If we start to talk about too many people running around, then the next question must be who they are. It then will be sorted out by what is sustainable, at the end it is no other possibility. The alternative is to start to move towards sustainability, with necessary voluntary adjustments of the excesses, greater efficiency, loyalty and cooperation. This is the way that people survived in the past, but not without being painfully forced to do it. The only question is if we can do it with less pain this time? Limiting the number of allowed offspring seems reasonable, with infanticide punished, of course. Disease and starvation will take their own toll, without any ghoulish sorting except poverty itself. -K ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Diesel engines
Let me add my 2 cents. Ebay has had a few of the below mentioned engines for sale recently. Keep an eye open there. - Original Message - From: Anthony Austin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 7:51 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Diesel engines If you really want a diesel vehicle and are not satisfied with what's available, find a small pickup with a blown engine and replace it with a diesel out of a junkyard. In the eighties, Toyota, Nissan, Isuzu, and Mazda all made diesels for small trucks, and some of them can still be found. Maxima had a fine 6 cylinder with a 5 speed manual, if you can fine one - it was a dynamite road car, able to cruise at 70 or above effortlessly...Tony Austin ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Mileage on diesel trucks...
Go here for some stats http://www.greasel.com/News.html - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Mileage on diesel trucks... I have a 1995 3/4 ton Dodge with a Cummings diesel. It has 250,000 miles on it. I bought it used. I get 15-17 MPG out of it on regular diesel. I thought these engines got better mileage. What do you get? I have not tried bio-diesel yet. I will install a in-line fuel filter in the spring and try some. Farmer Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand. Now includes pop-up blocker! Only $14.95/month -visit http://www.juno.com/surf to sign up today! ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Mysterious death of Rudolph Diesel
Uh Oh- Looks like Rudolf Diesel might have been murdered due to his wish to give Diesel engines to all of Europe, thus levelling the field of submarine technology. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Diesel history
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Re: [Biofuel] Best WVO for GM Dura-max
Thanks for the heads up, Stuart. Mine has floor shift 4x4, maybe this is OK? Will def look into the pump mounted driver issue. j hajeski - Original Message - From: Stuart Kreitman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 1:50 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Best WVO for GM Dura-max B: I have a '97 gmc 6.5l td / k2500 suburban. dunno about wvo in it, but I can talk to you about 2 killer issues on these trucks: fuel pump failure and 4x4 failure. re the fuel pump, SYMPTOM: stalling at stoplights or even on highway for no apparent reason. CAUSE: The pump-mounted-driver, or PMD. this box is primarly 2 large power transistors that are unfortunately mounted-on-the-pump, which lives under the intake manifold and is subject to high heat. The electronics get overcooked. CURE: not $400, more like $40. Find the guy on ebay selling take-off pmd's for $20 each. Buy 2 or more. Disconnect and route the pmd harness to the side of the intake so that the PMD can live outside. I was a dope and rr'd the manifold, but given a second chance, I'd get flashlights, dental mirrors and slightly stiff wire to finess the harness through. Scrounge a good sized heatsink from a really old PC. Or, hit me up for one of a stack of 12v fan/heatsink combos that I scrounged from the company dumpster. Get heatsink compound from radio shack or the like. 4x4: SYMPTOM: pushbutton system not engaging/disengaging: problems range from minor to psychotic. I'm in the psychotic stage, but i have a possible slick cure on the way. skk Busyditch wrote: Hello list members I am now the owner of 2 diesel vehicles. My trusty Golf TDi (B20 only, for now)has been joined by a 1995 Chevy 2500 pickup with the 6.5 liter Duramax TurboDiesel. I intend on converting to WVO using the Greasecar kit, mainly because I like the 1 minute purge feature. I was wondering if any members have experience with this engine using WVO, and if there are any problems to converting to WVO. Also I need to know what kind of WVO is recommended to use, as I have a wide variety of restaurants here to choose from. And if there are issues to what kind of processing I use on my WVO to make it friendly to my truck. Thanks to all who suppport this list, looking forward to becoming fossil free. j hajeski ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Best WVO for GM Dura-max
Hello list members I am now the owner of 2 diesel vehicles. My trusty Golf TDi (B20 only, for now)has been joined by a 1995 Chevy 2500 pickup with the 6.5 liter Duramax TurboDiesel. I intend on converting to WVO using the Greasecar kit, mainly because I like the 1 minute purge feature. I was wondering if any members have experience with this engine using WVO, and if there are any problems to converting to WVO. Also I need to know what kind of WVO is recommended to use, as I have a wide variety of restaurants here to choose from. And if there are issues to what kind of processing I use on my WVO to make it friendly to my truck. Thanks to all who suppport this list, looking forward to becoming fossil free. j hajeski ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Best WVO for GM Dura-max
You are right, I dont see the word Duramax anywhere, just thought thats what they called the 6.5. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 12:02 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Best WVO for GM Dura-max Hi, I don't believe that the Duramax, the engine designed by Isusu, was introduced by GM until 2001. The 6.5 engine you are referring to in the 1995 model year is a totally different engine. Unless, of course, someone changed the engine to the more recent Duramax. Welcome to the list, Derek -- Original message from Busyditch [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -- Hello list members I am now the owner of 2 diesel vehicles. My trusty Golf TDi (B20 only, for now)has been joined by a 1995 Chevy 2500 pickup with the 6.5 liter Duramax TurboDiesel. I intend on converting to WVO using the Greasecar kit, mainly because I like the 1 minute purge feature. I was wondering if any members have experience with this engine using WVO, and if there are any problems to converting to WVO. Also I need to know what kind of WVO is recommended to use, as I have a wide variety of restaurants here to choose from. And if there are issues to what kind of processing I use on my WVO to make it friendly to my truck. Thanks to all who suppport this list, looking forward to becoming fossil free. j hajeski ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] dragster facts-this is fun!
Clear Day NHRA Fun Facts 1. Under full throttle, a dragster engine consumes 1-1/2 gallons of nitro fuel per second. To put that into perspective that is the same rate of fuel consumption as a fully loaded 747 in flight, but with 4 times the energy release per volume. 2. The supercharger takes more power to drive it than a stock Hemi makes. 3. With nearly 3000 cubic feet of air being rammed in by the supercharger on overdrive, the fuel mixture is compressed into nearly-solid form before ignition. Cylinders run on the verge of hydraulic lock! 4. Dual magnetos apply 44 amps to each spark plug. This is equivalent to the output of an arc welder inside each cylinder. 5. At stoichiometric (exact) 1.7|1 air/fuel mixture (for nitro) the flame front of nitro methane measures 7050 degrees F. 6. Nitro methane burns yellow. The spectacular white flame seen above the stacks of a dragster during a night race is actually burning hydrogen, as it is being dissociated from atmospheric water vapor by the searing hot exhaust gases. 7. Spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during one pass down the track. In the 3 or 4 seconds it takes to get halfway through the quarter! the engine is tinseling from compression and the glow of the exhaust valves at 1400 degrees F. The engine can now only be killed by shutting off the fuel flow. 8. If spark momentarily fails early in the run, unburned nitro builds up so fast in the cylinders that once spark is restored the explosion is so violent that the cylinder heads can be blown off the block in pieces and the block can blow in half. 9. Dragsters twist the crank (torsionally) so far (20 degrees in the big end of the track) that sometimes cam lobes are ground offset on purpose from front to rear to rephase the valve timing somewhere closer to synchronization with the pistons. 10. To exceed 3000 mph in 4.5 seconds, dragsters must accelerate at an average of 4 G's. But if they reach 200 MPH well before 1/2 track the pressure on the driver is closer to 8G's. 11. Drivers shut off the fuel before the finish line or even double-chutes will not stop the car. 12. If all the racing teams' equipment is paid off, the crew works for free and for once NOTHING blows up, then each run only costs $1000,00 per second. 13. Dragsters reach over 300 mph before you have read this sentence. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] dragster facts-this is fun!
You are both right, this is a typo. It should be 300 MPH - Original Message - From: robert luis rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] dragster facts-this is fun! Kirk McLoren wrote: 3000 mph x 5280 ft/mile = 15,840,000 feet per hour or 264,000 feet per minute or 4,400 feet per second. If the acceleration is 4.5 seconds the acceleration per second is 4,400/4.5 or 977.8 feet per second. Since 1 g=32.2fps we see that 977.8/32.2 =30.37g's of acceleration. I think your velocity is way too high. I agree. Shouldn't it be 300 miles per hour? Very few machines exceed the sound barrier, and far fewer 3 000 mph! robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.authorhouse.com/BookStore/ItemDetail.aspx?bookid=9782 Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Engine block heater for VW TDI
Here is a link to a manufacturer of heaters for your VW diesel http://www.frostheater.com/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] biofuel map
Clear DayThis was on the Willie Nelson article site http://biodiesel.org/buyingbiodiesel/distributors/default.shtm ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Castor oil for 2-Cycle? was ethanol:gasoline ratio
Castor oil has been used as lubricant in 2 cycle engines for years in the world of motorsports racing. The downside is it does leave harmful deposits in the combustion chamber and piston, reducing the life of the engine. Racing engines are constantly being re-built, so the deposits are not a factor in engine life. So be forewarned that bean oil may lead to a shorter life in your chainsaw. The good news is that replacing a piston is relatively easy, and a good lesson in mechanics for anyone wishing to be more green. - Original Message - From: JCT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 7:47 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Castor oil for 2-Cycle? was ethanol:gasoline ratio From: Peggy [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip I also asked about biolubricants to use in 2 cycle engines and was given the following reply: The best lubricant for 2-cycle use is Castor oil. You can buy it at any pharmacy and it is soluble in ethanol. Add about 2 oz per gallon. And again, there may be more information that differs. This just sounds very easy and convenient. Hope that this helps. Best wishes, Peggy --- Hi Peggy, Been lurking here for sometimes but now you really caught my attention as I hate my chain saw exhaust smell/pollution... Do I understand well that I could use 2 oz castor oil per 132 oz ethanol (4 liters) in my chain saw? What other modification would have to be made to the chain saw to be ethanol/castor oil ready? I heard of rubber problem? Can ethanol be replaced by methanol? JCT ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Anyone know anything about this on ebay?
He is not too far from me, might be worth looking onto and picking it up myself. - Original Message - From: John Mullan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 6:46 AM Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Anyone know anything about this on ebay? I haven't ventured this far in my quest, but I'd really love to hear if anyone picks up one of these units. If it works satisfactorily, I'd be willing to buy one. Cheers, -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: December 31, 2004 7:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Biofuel] Anyone know anything about this on ebay? Hey, Saw this on ebay... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=11809item=3864167546 rd=1ssPageName=WDVW anybodys opinion on this? Don ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] looking for a van
Try this ebay search. Nice looking reefer van in Hollywood. http://search.ebay.com/diesel-van_W0QQsofocusZbsQQcatrefZC5QQfromZR7QQnojsprZyQQpfidZ0QQsosortpropertyZ1QQsocolumnlayoutZ3QQsorecordsperpageZ50 - Original Message - From: Twiggymoonshoes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:18 AM Subject: [Biofuel] looking for a van I am looking for a used diesel van. Any suggestions on which make is better for biodiesel? I am currently home brewing for my 1979 Rabbit. Also, does anyone know of vans for sale? I am having trouble finding one. I am located in California, but all areas will be considered. thanks David ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] TDI Question
Wendy As an old time engine swapper from my old Hot Rod days, unless you find a good qualitifed mechanic, doing this kind of conversion could lead into a lot of hassles, and even more money. Remember, the entire car needs to be changed over to diesel, including the proprietary fuel tank, fuel pump, fuel lines, even the type of transmission if its an automatic. This job, evn done by a pro, would be quite a feat. The main issue is a donor car, one that would have all of the above mentioned parts to make the swap doable. SO buying your wagon, and buying a donor car with low milage and all parts intact, PLUS labor, would add up to almost a new car. Keep your eyes peeled, theu come up on ebay once in a while. busyditch - Original Message - From: Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] TDI Question G'day Wendy; Don't know how adventuresome you want to get but this is a possibility. http://www.benzworld.org/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=1194920posts=1fid=10 and click on the link for pics.A nice Benz wagon, diesel ta boot. Luc - Original Message - From: Eric Wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 9:15 AM Subject: [Biofuel] TDI Question Hi Everyone! I am a station wagon kind of mom. I don't want to drop a lot of money on a new car, so purchasing a new Jetta or Passat wagon TDI is out of the question. Finding a used TDI wagon is very hard. I found some gasoline Passat wagons on auto trader for under $10,000. Could I purchase one of them and put a diesel engine in it? Is it physically possible? Does it make financial sense? Thanks! Wendy Adams Harrisburg, PA ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[biofuel] NY State poeple?
I am going to be on vacation and was looking to visit people in the NY state area who make their own BD. I remember one list member from the Oneonta area made me an offer, but I lost his addy. I have recently put a 20' refrigerated container in my back yard and will wire it up for 220 this summer, and hope to have my BD converter made by the end of the year. Keep on keepin' on., folks. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Iraq, fight, eat, shit and move, a number game.
Hear hear! I agree 100%, I remember your earlier post and thought about how the mASS media completely overlooked this point- that 10 years ago we were killing these people, and why would they have a sudden change of heart? No, we would be looked upon as some kind of usurper, with their oil fields on our minds, and they saw through the kindness with bullets BS. I own a VW Diesel and run a 20% mix of store-bought biodiesel, and I am looking into buying some home made from some local folks, with the intent of making my own someday. There are also kits to convert to using straight vegetable oil, with many reporting thousands of miles of trouble free use. Its the new wave of grass roots renewable energy sources, because our government cant make up its mind to provide us with any without deciding how to make the most money from it (HYDROCELL). Here is a great link to some free thinking people http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html - Original Message - From: Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:59 AM Subject: [biofuel] Iraq, fight, eat, shit and move, a number game. Before the invasion of Iraq, I pointed out in different ways and times the following, Iraq consist of 80% women and children under 16 years old. This as a result of the Iraq and Iran war, supported by US. The first Gulf war and the blockade of food and medical supply. It is true that there are nearly no family or circle of friends who did not have a member killed in the Iran war or by the oppressive regime. It is also true that the same can be said about the Americans and their policies. I claimed that US would not be hailed as a liberator and that the winning of hearts and minds was a very naive proposition. Today we can see this and the Americans have killed a larger number of Fathers, Brothers, Friends and even some collateral damages on the female side of the population. The started with a childish proudness of the terror tactics shock and awe and continued with trigger happiness. It is non who claims any large successes in winning hearts and minds, instead we have seen some extremely stupid events in the prison system. Now I only like to point out some severe logical failures in the reporting and propaganda from Iraq. A US combat soldier on the ground in Iraq, is depending of 5 to 10 other military support personal to fight, eat, shit and move. This means that of the US force of around 130,000, it is only around 30,000 that really comes in contact with Iraqi people and combat situations. That is one thousands of a percent, compared with the Iraqi population. It is almost impossible to maintain any kind security and to live up to their obligations according to the Geneva convention, as an occupying force. This is also why the current hand over of sovereignty is rushed through, as if US after that would no longer have any legal responsibilities and a moral victory. According to the coalition the resistance in Iraq, are foreign terrorists, local terrorists, insurgents and plain criminals. If we look at the numbers, the US heroes are killing them with their technical superiority (night scopes etc.) in relations higher than 1 American to 15 insurgents. Most combats are therefor night combats, where US search and kill insurgents. It is also a very high number of innocent collateral damage (bystanders). The propaganda want us to belive that these insurgents pops up during night, like targets on a shooting range and they come almost from nowhere and seems to exists in unlimited numbers. The fact is that those insurgents also fight, eat, shit and move. They must have support of 5 to 10 members of the population to do so. Making some numbers out of it, there must be insurgents and supporters in the range of 1,500,000 people, or a very large part of the Iraqi able population, that probably are around 5,000,000 men. I might be off both up and down, but not totally wrong in the principle. The question is how US will win this, without putting maybe 10 times more troops on the ground and with much ruthless behavior. Selected sovereign government, have little chance to survive without massive US support and if the Iraqis do not get the opportunity to really free elections, it will continue to go on. Really free elections will probably lead to a Iran style Muslim scenario and that is not acceptable for the US, because this means that Bin Laden won. There are also large risks for collapse and civil war and a large scale escalation in the region. The situation is very dangerous and in no way out of the woods yet. It does not look good for US energy supplies and price levels, because it could be severe impacts on the US economy. My survival kit advice in this situation is, sell your SUV when you can and get a small energy efficient diesel car, prepared for biodiesel. Hakan Biofuel at Journey to Forever:
Re: [biofuel] Best Processer
Depending on the amount you plan on making, according to your needs, here are 2 somewhat smaller systems. http://www.biodieselsolutions.com/products.asp - Original Message - From: grunwald To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 12:03 AM Subject: [biofuel] Best Processer What are now considered to be the best-made, commercially available, biodiesel processors on the market at this time, for personal, non-commercial use? How do they compare to one another, and how much do they cost. Please supply links to these companies, if possible. Thank you! Bob Grunwald, Certified Arborist [EMAIL PROTECTED] 559-583-9334 (home) 559-308-0947 (cell) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] New record of 10,705 MPG!!!!
http://www.shell.com/home/Framework?siteId=uk-enFC2=/uk-en/html/iwgen/leftnavs/zzz_lhn10_2_3.htmlFC3=/uk-en/html/iwgen/socialinvestment/eco_marathon/m arathon/record_eco_marathon_0204.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Strange Off Topic Question
The way I undersatnd this, as it was explained to me, is that in order for US engines to pass emission tests, it mustt have closer tolerances in the engines to run hotter ,in order for the gas/air mixtre to combust further. So with such close tolerances the engines will wear faster. - Original Message - From: Phil Dodd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 11:43 AM Subject: [biofuel] Strange Off Topic Question That is most likely self-explanitory, I just want to be sure...as I am looking at diesel vehicles for sale I am finding a large number of american made vehicles talking about having their engines rebuilt. When I am looking at european cars, specifically mercedes benz, I am not seeing anything about the engines having been rebuilt even up to 200,000 miles. Am I missing something, or do american engines just suck? Quizical Phil Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Article on scavenging
http://www.x-pipe.com/Scavenge.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] You must pay more
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Re: [biofuel] building your own diesel motorcycle
HA I have had this very idea for years. Not too many engines out there with the proper requirements, most of the small engines I looked at are industrial and do not have the capacity. It may be posible to use one of the new .8 liter Benz engines used in the SmartCar. It is a fun project I hope to try one day. - Original Message - From: tshadow6 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 9:47 PM Subject: [biofuel] building your own diesel motorcycle Has anyone out there built a diesel powered motorcycle? If so, let me know, I believe it would be a good project. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] newbie needs help ...
Cant beat the VW TDi. 53 MPG @ 70 MPH highway, about 45 city, a little less now that I run the AC. Running B20 (20% biodiesel) - Original Message - From: Omi Ramirez To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 1:39 AM Subject: [biofuel] newbie needs help ... hey all -- Im looking into a Diesel vehicle purchase. The idea of course is good mpg and running biodiesel I plan to make at home... I guess Im stuck between a cherokee Im building running a nissan 2.8 diesel ... A Dodge Ram (1997-1999) diesel or a VW TDI. There is tons of info on the VW's but I cant find info on the other 2 engines. Has anyone here run bioD on either a RAM or RD28 ??? If so how was/is your experiance going and what mpg are you getting?? Thx ... Omi R [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.miamitj.com Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Straight WVO
4) source for six port solenoid or manual valve. (tank switch) J. C. Whitney - Original Message - From: Richard U To: biofuel biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 11:13 AM Subject: [biofuel] Straight WVO HI, I've just bought an '83 Mercedes 300TD (5 cyl 3L turbo wagon) for the sole purpose of alternative fuel experimentation (well, maybe also to get me to work while I'm restoring my '68 Ford Ranchero GT) I plan on eventually setting up for full Biodiesel production (I like the water heater conversion), but first I want to set up a two tank, straight WVO system. I have spent days going trough the archives, and numerous web-sites, but am still not clear about a few things: 1) What exactly do I need to do to the WVO before putting it my new heated second tank. What if some dino or bio gets mixed in? 2) Chemically thinning WVO...at least for use in the warm months, which is most of them here in North Carolina. 3) Combustion chamber carbon remover (RxP?)...one of my cylinders has lower compression (240 vs. 310), mechanic said valves were very tight, might be carbon on valve seats. (I think I still got a bargain for $860 on eBay) 4) source for six port solenoid or manual valve. (tank switch) 5) schematic for variable time delay shut down solenoid controller. This is for an unsupervised clean fuel shut-down burn. (another use might be foranti- carjacking...you set it to shut down in a minute... the thief gets a mile down the road... I would especially like to hear from those with MB 5 cyl IDI turbos. I am considering cutting the back off, and turning it into a pick-up, this is what Ford did to there station wagons to create the Ranchero. I wanted to post a picture of what this might look like, but I guess there is no member access to photo posting. (hint...hint) I think an MB pick-up would rate a walnut gun rack in the back window. I'm not sure what this means yet, but I got a gas analysis with my state inspection (although not required)...kind of a before and after thing. HC = 53ppm CO2= 3.1% CO = 0.08% This is with Texaco 40 cetane purchased in Maryland, USA ($1.799) I'm sorry if I'm requesting info that has been recently posted, but my search for straight WVO did not give me satisfaction...let me know if there is a more productive search title. Richard U ^..^ ^..^ ^..^ ^..^ ^..^ ^..^ ^..^ Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one. -Thomas Jefferson Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Hybrid Mileage Comes Up Short
Ha! I was stopped at a traffic light nearby yesterday and a guy in a Ford Exploder came alongside and beeped his horn. I rolled down my window and he asked me what kind of mileage I got. I said 53 highway on long trips, @ 70MPH. He said wanna trade? I said NO WAY! I told him the VW TDi is the best kept secret. Its too bad people have to feel obligated to buy overstuffed g-ass guzzling land yachts because they need to keep up with their neighbors, heck the neighbors should keep up with me, I could go next door and borrow a cup of biodiesel! - Original Message - From: Ken Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 12:02 PM Subject: [biofuel] Hybrid Mileage Comes Up Short My 2002 VW Golf TDI (stock) is getting 50 MPG on the back roads on mostly old country roads in Hills and Valleys in S.E. Ohio. I love it Ken [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Hybrid Mileage Comes Up Short
Heck, I put a Got 50MPG? sticker on my TDi Golf and I'm embarrassed, too. Because its been getting 53 MPG on road trips to my house in upstate NY. I'm so ashamed. BSEG :) busyditch - Original Message - From: murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 3:11 AM Subject: [biofuel] Hybrid Mileage Comes Up Short In my view, it is long overdue that the EPA should improve its tests to reflect real-world mileage and not their out-of-touch lab work. http://www.wired.com/news/autotech/0,2554,63413,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1 Hybrid cars are hot, but not as hot as their owners, who complain that their gas mileage hasn't come close to well-advertised estimates. Don't knock the car companies for inflated claims: Experts say the blame lies with the 19-year-old EPA fuel-efficiency test that overstates hybrid performance. Pete Blackshaw was so excited about getting a hybrid gasoline-electric car that he had his wife videotape the trip to the Honda dealership to pick up his Civic Hybrid. The enthusiastic owner ordered a customized license plate with MO MILES on it, and started a blog about his new hybrid lifestyle. But after a few months of commuting to his job in Cincinnati, Blackshaw's hybrid euphoria vanished as his car's odometer revealed that the gas mileage he was hoping for was only a pipe dream. Honda's Civic Hybrid is rated by the EPA to get 47 miles per gallon in the city, and 48 mpg on the highway. After nearly 1,000 miles of mostly city driving, Blackshaw was getting 31.4 mpg. I feel like a complete fraud driving around Cincinnati with a license plate that says MO MILES, says Blackshaw, who claims that after 4,000 miles his car has never gotten more than 33 mpg on any trip. The tenor of Blackshaw's blog shifted from adulation to frustration after his Honda dealer confirmed that his car was functioning properly, and that there was nothing he could do. [etc.] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] NASA branch funds chaos technology
NASA Funds Sci-Fi Technology By Noah Shachtman http://www.wired.com/news/feedback/mail/1,2330,0-91-63362,00.html | Also http://www.wired.com/news/storylist/0,2339,91,00.html by this reporter Page 1 of 1 02:00 AM May. 07, 2004 PT For 25 years, Ross Hoffman has had a vision: to use tiny changes in the environment to alter the paths of hurricanes, slow down snow storms and turn dark days bright. For most of those years, Hoffman kept his ideas largely to himself. His adviser at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology told him weather control was too outlandish for his Ph.D. thesis. The chances of a buttoned-down foundation or government agency funding such research were so slim, Hoffman didn't even bother to ask. But, in 2001, all that changed. Hoffman stumbled upon a tiny, obscure cranny of the American space program -- the NASA Institute for Advanced Concepts http://www.niac.usra.edu/, or NIAC. In this $4 million-a-year agency, Hoffman found a place where the wildest of ideas were not only tolerated, they were welcome. Shape-shifting space suits http://www.niac.usra.edu/files/studies/abstract/714Hodgson.html? Step right up. Antimatter-powered probes to Alpha Centauri http://www.niac.usra.edu/files/studies/abstract/850Howe.html? No problem. Robotic armada to destroy incoming asteroids http://www.niac.usra.edu/files/studies/abstract/889Olds.html? Pal, just sign on the dotted line. Weather control seemed downright down to earth in comparison. Hoffman is now wrapping up his half-million-dollar study for NIAC. But the agency is continuing to bankroll concepts for a future decades away. Some space analysts wonder how long it can last, however. With NASA in turmoil, and a presidential directive to return to the moon, will a science fiction-oriented agency like NIAC survive? They're interested in taking some risks, unlike most other government organizations these days, said Hoffman, a vice president at Atmospheric and Environmental Research http://www.aer.com/ in Lexington, Massachusetts. At NIAC, if it's not risky, it's not going to get funded. Over the last six years, NIAC has backed 118 studies into the chanciest of propositions: interplanetary rapid transit http://www.niac.usra.edu/files/studies/abstract/524Nock.html, aircraft without moving parts http://www.niac.usra.edu/files/studies/abstract/836Colozza.html, and radio signals bounced off of meteors' trails http://www.niac.usra.edu/files/studies/abstract/815Charania.html. The idea, according to NIAC director Robert Cassanova, is to give concepts 10 to 40 years out a chance to grow, and then to pass those models on to NASA proper for further development. The agency's best-known baby is the so-called space elevator http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,60449,00.html -- a 62,000-mile twine of carbon nanotubes that would transport cargo into orbit. Technically, NIAC isn't part of the space agency, Cassanova said. It's a wing of the Universities Space Research Association -- a collection of colleges that work together on final-frontier studies. Through the group, NASA gives Cassanova a few million a year to hand out to way-out researchers. NIAC hands out two types of grants. Six-month Phase I investigations receive $75,000 each. Phase II grants go up to $400,000, for 18 to 24 months of study. With his award, Hoffman tweaked a weather-prediction program to show that moving a hurricane was possible -- at least in theory. Here's how: You need a ring of satellites in orbit, channeling the sun's energy, stretching around the Earth. The machines would beam power http://www.defensetech.org/archives/000658.html to the planet, using microwaves. But, tuned to 183 GHz, they could also heat up small regions of the atmosphere by a degree or two. Those small changes could have enormous impact, Hoffman's simulation showed. A deadly hurricane, headed for the Hawaiian island of Kauai, drifted off into the Pacific, harmlessly. One of the great things about NIAC is that they never say, 'That's crazy, you can never build a fleet of solar-powered space stations,' Hoffman said. Such a system is decades off -- if it ever happens at all. But analysts like Brian Chase, vice president of the Space Foundation http://www.spacefoundation.org/, see research like Hoffman's as critically important. It's impossible to make breakthroughs if all you're funding is immediate, near-term applications, he said. Chase is concerned, however, that NASA may be pressured to drop its far-out studies. These are tight times, he said. It's tricky balancing how much can be obtained for the moon and Mars versus how much can be obtained for the longer-term stuff. Often, it's one of the first areas to get cut. NIAC isn't the only arm of the space agency engaged in projects that border on the fantastic. The Marshall Space Flight Center, for example, is looking at propelling spaceships with electrodynamic tethers http://www1.msfc.nasa.gov/NEWSROOM/background/facts/tether.pdf (PDF).
Re: [biofuel] Bio Diesel
I always heard it was designed to run on peanut oil. - Original Message - From: david browne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Bio Diesel Hakan Falk wrote: Dave, Hempseed oil, that was a new one for me. LOL Read a lot about him, but not this. Can you give me your source. Maybe you also can tell me, what the diesel engine was designed to run on and it failed to do. Hakan At 22:30 13/05/2004, you wrote: I wonder how many of us realize that Rudolph Diesel, yes the guy who invented the diesel engine, actually utilized HEMPSEED OIL as his fuel source and that it wasn't until years later that petroleum was synthesized to make a diesel fuel? there is a book written by Jack Herer called The Emperor Wears No Clothes you can find EVERYTHING you want to know about hemp and hemp byproducts within this volume. Enlightening and informative, I give it a rating of 100 on the Ecological Savior scale of 1 to 10 - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - Buy advance tickets for 'Shrek 2' [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] B100 / B20
Mix 2 gallons of B100 with 8 gallons of petro diesel for the proper blend.(B20 = 20%) - Original Message - From: dewey_nc To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 1:50 PM Subject: [biofuel] B100 / B20 If you add 2 gal. of B100 to petrol. diesel, do you have B20? Are there any issues with blending? Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] In the works: OFF Grid College and Retirement Community - biofuel advice needed
We really did not get too far, as we were unable to purchase the property needed. Here is a good site to help you determine the best location. http://www.homepower.com/files/windsiteanalysis.pdf - Original Message - From: Phil To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] In the works: OFF Grid College and Retirement Community - biofuel advice needed Love to ... the military chose the highest ground in the area for the radar station. Also there is a 5 story building on campus. We get great winds and would love to see whatever you had in the way of plans. Thanks Phil Frankford [EMAIL PROTECTED] H 314/822-5115 M 314/603-5922 - Original Message - From: Busyditch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] In the works: OFF Grid College and Retirement Community - biofuel advice needed Any plans on building windmill generators? It sounds like you have the ideal spot, with such prevailing winds. Are there any hills near the coast to erect the windmill towers. I was recently involved in planning a community such as yours in upstate NY, with the main source of revenue being wind towers, but things sort of fell apart at the grant level. busyditch - Original Message - From: Phil To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 4:05 PM Subject: [biofuel] In the works: OFF Grid College and Retirement Community - biofuel advice needed In the works: OFF Grid College and Retirement Community A small group of families have gone together to purchase a decommissioned radar base on the thumb of MI. It is being converted into an off-grid college campus and retirement community that will teach all the off-grid technologies, skilled trades, as well as the normal college level academics. It has dorms, classrooms, dinning hall, gym, handball courts, tennis courts, bowling alley, places for short-term RVs parking, and much more --- 20 acres. It is about 1 mile from some of the best beaches in Michigan. Port Ausin has about the cleanest air in the nation as it has prevailing winds that blow across 400 miles of fresh water, Great Lake Huron. We are looking into biofuels for all our energy requirements. We plan to grow all of our own certified organic foods. Cross-pollination is not an issue because of the air currents. Again, we are looking at ways to provide all of our on energy needs, food/nutritional/health needs, and financial needs. I'm seeking industrial ways that we can generate the money and resources to see that all people want to come, have the means to come. We need everyone's' ideas, input, and efforts. We are seeking partners for all of the above. Partners can be involved in anyway that they want or can. Some people will visit and help for just a couple of weeks. Others may choose to become full time partners and live with us in off campus housing. Others folks will only be able to bring themselves and serve. All of these people are counted as partners equally from those with pennies to the multi-millionaires. Each will be given the same level of respect and honor. Port Austin Sabbatarian Church Community [EMAIL PROTECTED] Snail: PO Box 610; Port Austin, Michigan, USA 48467 Tel: 517-738-7700 Planning to visit, please call Paul Drieman - Facilities Director - at 314/603-5923. The best time to reach him is after 7pm EST. He is charged with getting and keeping everything physical going on campus. Interested seniors should contact Terry Williams - SEAL Director - 734/657-8474 734/677-1789 708/747-8783 He is charged with planning for the seniors. Industry and resource director me - Phil Frankford ... 314/822-5115 314/603-5922 I'm charged with developing ways to sustain the campus. We are seeking ways for any person that wants to come can come and have work to do to pay their own way. Let us know how we can serve you. Best regards- Phil Frankford Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send
Re: [biofuel] In the works: OFF Grid College and Retirement Community - biofuel advice needed
Any plans on building windmill generators? It sounds like you have the ideal spot, with such prevailing winds. Are there any hills near the coast to erect the windmill towers. I was recently involved in planning a community such as yours in upstate NY, with the main source of revenue being wind towers, but things sort of fell apart at the grant level. busyditch - Original Message - From: Phil To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 4:05 PM Subject: [biofuel] In the works: OFF Grid College and Retirement Community - biofuel advice needed In the works: OFF Grid College and Retirement Community A small group of families have gone together to purchase a decommissioned radar base on the thumb of MI. It is being converted into an off-grid college campus and retirement community that will teach all the off-grid technologies, skilled trades, as well as the normal college level academics. It has dorms, classrooms, dinning hall, gym, handball courts, tennis courts, bowling alley, places for short-term RVs parking, and much more --- 20 acres. It is about 1 mile from some of the best beaches in Michigan. Port Ausin has about the cleanest air in the nation as it has prevailing winds that blow across 400 miles of fresh water, Great Lake Huron. We are looking into biofuels for all our energy requirements. We plan to grow all of our own certified organic foods. Cross-pollination is not an issue because of the air currents. Again, we are looking at ways to provide all of our on energy needs, food/nutritional/health needs, and financial needs. I'm seeking industrial ways that we can generate the money and resources to see that all people want to come, have the means to come. We need everyone's' ideas, input, and efforts. We are seeking partners for all of the above. Partners can be involved in anyway that they want or can. Some people will visit and help for just a couple of weeks. Others may choose to become full time partners and live with us in off campus housing. Others folks will only be able to bring themselves and serve. All of these people are counted as partners equally from those with pennies to the multi-millionaires. Each will be given the same level of respect and honor. Port Austin Sabbatarian Church Community [EMAIL PROTECTED] Snail: PO Box 610; Port Austin, Michigan, USA 48467 Tel: 517-738-7700 Planning to visit, please call Paul Drieman - Facilities Director - at 314/603-5923. The best time to reach him is after 7pm EST. He is charged with getting and keeping everything physical going on campus. Interested seniors should contact Terry Williams - SEAL Director - 734/657-8474 734/677-1789 708/747-8783 He is charged with planning for the seniors. Industry and resource director me - Phil Frankford ... 314/822-5115 314/603-5922 I'm charged with developing ways to sustain the campus. We are seeking ways for any person that wants to come can come and have work to do to pay their own way. Let us know how we can serve you. Best regards- Phil Frankford Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] My first tank of B20
Its called Taylor Fuel Oil.They have many locations but only one, Somerville, NJ has BD. Phone John Cusack 908 884-3813 He may be able to tell you when they have more 5 gal pails in stock. I bought the last 3 5 gal pails, but he still has 2 55 gal drums, I may buy one if the price is right (He asked me to call back bc he did not have a price yet) - Original Message - From: Scott Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Busyditch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 8:53 PM Subject: re: [biofuel] My first tank of B20 Where in N NJ did you find biodiesel? I'm in Warren and would like to have a commercial source at least as a stopgap? Thanks, Scott -- Scott Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] My first tank of B20
Well, I have finally found a source for B-D here in North NJ. It is a local fuel oil company who carries 5 gal pails and also 55 gal drums. I bought 3 pails today, with the hope of buying a drum and keeping it in the yard where I work. I put in 3 gallons because it is a 14 gal tank (Golf) and then topped it off. Oh, yeah, while g-ass-oline prices are soaring, I have watched petro diesel come down almost 8 cents per gallon in 2 weeks, (I paid $1.55 US per galllon) The first thing I noticed when I got home is that the exhaust smell is much less notable. So now the Biodiesel sticker in my back window is finaly accurate. Now on to making my own! busyditch Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] 82 mercedes 300td HELP!
Definitely sounds like fuel starvation. I'm not too familiar with the Benz under the hood, but are there any fuel lines running from the filter into the injection pump? You may want to loosen the line slightly to see if any fuel comes out while someone cranks the engine over. - Original Message - From: To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 5:07 PM Subject: [biofuel] 82 mercedes 300td HELP! While I realized that this is not the best place for a benz question, here goes- I have an '82 300td [wagon] with 239,000k miles on it. Just bought it last week and got the paperwork done so I can start driving it this week. I ran around Savannah[GA] here with it several days- Ok. No problems. Today, the car started to hesitate big time. I'm running only dino diesel fuel. The seller changed both fuel filters prior to the sale. The car would run briefly, but then would crawl along at 5MPH at best- then it coughed and gave up the ghost. The engine will turn over. Any ideas? -Michael - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Using Prius as an electric car *#
Eva Thanks for your concern and insight. I, too, knew very little about b-d until a few months ago. It started with an email from someone in Australia who started running their TDi on WVO (waste vegetable oil) and then the wonderful discovery of the grass roots people around the world building their own systems to convert WVO to b-d. I looked into kits to convert cars to WVO dual tank systems, and then seriously started hunting for a TDi. (found my 2000 Golf TDi with only 50 K)At this point I discovered JTF, and have read a lot of interesting comments from list members. Yes, there were front page stories in the Times, etc (links to follow) which did not make any waves, obviously. Yes,the country needs to be informed that an alternative isd here in front of their faces, and Bush should NOT put any money into the super costly hydrogen cell technology. But my frustration still lies in obtaining b-d. One list member offered for me to come visit him upstate (near Oneonta) to see his conversion tank system.(I live in NJ but own a house in the Catskills) But my efforts to obtain a 5 gal pail or 55 gal drum of b-d for me to mix into my own B20 (20%) is tough, because the shipping is almost as much as the product itself. I CAN buy a tractor trailer load, but who has a tank to store that much? Therefore the need to start-up a small distributorship here in the NY area, maybe in an old gas station? I am seriously pursuing it. If your TDi gets such good mileage, it wouldnt be so bad for someone to travel from, say Queens or Brooklyn to north NJ where my station will be, I would even offer to pay back tolls! If I could generate enough interest from this list, it would be an incentive for me. Thanks again, and keep in touch. (are you also in NY?) -busyditch Here is a cool list,if you browse around there are articles from various media, plus super reviews of the TDi cars. http://www.tdiclub.com/ - Original Message - From: Eva Pierce To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 7:00 PM Subject: RE: [biofuel] Using Prius as an electric car *# I, too, would be interested in hearing about your efforts to start biodiesel production in NYC. More from the perspective of another biodiesel newbie that is interested in production. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that most people are less enlightened than the ones on this list, in that even if they do connect our political problems with oil, it does not occur to them that there are alternatives that are both environmentally and economically (key point!) more healthy. What's astonishing to me is how long biodiesel has been around versus how recently (I can count the weeks on two hands) I discovered its existence. Where are the press releases and ad campaigns? Definitely not on the front page. _ From: murdoch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 12:32 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Using Prius as an electric car *# If you are able to follow through on this, or even if you are not able to do so, and find that it just takes the fire out of you, I for one will be extremely interested to read of your efforts, or of any further info you can pass on to us, about the NYC area. I am acquainted with the guy who runs NYCE wheels, the 2-wheeler EV seller on the upper east side. But that's just an EV issue, not a biofuel issue. A couple of years ago I was in NYC and asked about the grocery store situation. I realized that I never seemed to see large chain stores as I am accustomed to elsehwere. I was told that, basically, the local stores had a strong push and were able to keep the area different from the chain-store-ization of elsewhere. I am not saying good or bad, I was just sort of wondering, and that's what I was told... as I kept in mind the amounts of food going into the city every day, and the amounts of waste exiting. There was a news story or two, a few years ago, about the issue of some restauraunt waste grease, that might otherwise have been turned into fuel, being put illegally into the sewer systems, and causing damage. Apparently this was happening in a certain Chinese restaurant area more than in others? I have not heard any further discussion of this. Manhattan is such a different area from others that I have been to, that I cannot begin to really understand it. I never seem to see gas stations, yet there must be some, because there are certainly enough cars and taxis. I think this is merely my perception, that I don't see any. But at the same time, I'm guessing that it's highly regulated and that this is part of the reason for the lack of inroads by folks trying to do something different. After 9-11, I expected NYC people, of anyone, to make a connection between the issue of changing the sourcing of their fuel and fighting the war, or at least fighting whatever fight any individual citizen wanted, as far as his own personal views
Re: [biofuel] Using Prius as an electric car *#
Thanks Here is my current dilemma: I am seeking to buy biodiesel, either B20 or B100 that I can mix myself. I am not in the best situation right now that would allow me the chance to brew my own. So I am looking for a distributor to supply me. Now, I live in the NY city area, THE largest Metropolitan area in the world, yet there are ZERO distributors here, the closest is New Haven, Connecticutt, and Bridgeton, NJ, 2 hours drive eiher way. I want so much to become part of the biodiesel solution that I want to try to become a distributor here in NY, and maybe get in on the ground floor. I do have some capital to invest. but just need more info on how to do it. I am banking on the hope that biodiesel will be the wave of the future, as a government mandated supplement to petro diesel. Good Luck to us all! - Original Message - From: To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 2:41 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Using Prius as an electric car *# Dear B.D., The parking lot is a great idea. I hope we a a few landlords/entrepreneurs on the list put it to use. Perhaps the charge could be done for free during certain hours to be competitive with parking lots not supplying the service. Maybe commuter parking lots could charge for free to induce multi-modal commuters to participate in such programs or to buy the cars in the first instance. Keep up the good thinking. Regards, Wendell Busyditch wrote: Ideally, one should be able to charge their battery using a biofuel powered genset. Not a reality for most, but imagine someone setting up an urban regeneration station/parking lot to charge your vehicle overnight using such a generator. The ideas are boundless, just enough inspiration to make them work. busyditch - Original Message - From: Michael To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 12:56 AM Subject: [biofuel] Using Prius as an electric car I hope everyone realizes that the energy comes from a dirty power plant, and then loses energy traveling down the power lines, to their plug, and then loses energy in the rectifier, and in charging the batteries, and in discharging the batteries.Very Respectfully, Michael http://www.RecoveryByDiscovery.com Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] New Mercedes to be sold in the US
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Re: [biofuel] Using Prius as an electric car
Ideally, one should be able to charge their battery using a biofuel powered genset. Not a reality for most, but imagine someone setting up an urban regeneration station/parking lot to charge your vehicle overnight using such a generator. The ideas are boundless, just enough inspiration to make them work. busyditch - Original Message - From: Michael To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 12:56 AM Subject: [biofuel] Using Prius as an electric car I hope everyone realizes that the energy comes from a dirty power plant, and then loses energy traveling down the power lines, to their plug, and then loses energy in the rectifier, and in charging the batteries, and in discharging the batteries.Very Respectfully, Michael http://www.RecoveryByDiscovery.com Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Biodiesel Class in Tucson, Arizona, May 22, possibly equipment class May 23?
Try JC Whitney. - Original Message - From: James Merkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 9:06 PM Subject: RE: [biofuel] Biodiesel Class in Tucson, Arizona, May 22, possibly equipment class May 23? i am tryihg to get a good source for 2 and 3 port solenoid valves... hopefully for cheaper than 50 bucks each. Can anyone direct me to a supplier? jamie merkle 617 969 2489 _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Trunk mounted tank
I am poring over the specs on a singleor dual tank system to run WVO. Anyone know of a manufacturer who makes a tank to fit in the spare tire well? I have a 2000 Golf and thought this would be a good idea, as it would not take up the cargo/trunk areas in eithe Golfs or sedans like Jettas, etc. Seems to me it would hold at least 10 gal, or so. -busyditch Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] news article concerning biodiesel and crops
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[biofuel] more from Minnesota
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Re: [biofuel] newbie questions
Your plan is feasible, save for the fact that you live in an area with cold climate most of the year. The idea of using SVO works through the principle of preheating the oil for a thinner viscosity, to run better. But in most cases you will need a dual fuel system, because the SVO does not start well in cold weather, and it also has the same gelling problems as petro diesel. There are kits online to convert to SVO and also some dual fuel kits, too. The problems arise with dual fuel systems because the diesel engine needs a bleed back line into the fuels tank, and you cannot mix petro diesel with SVO, so you need a switching system to feed back to the respective fuel tank. This is the only way to prevent ruining the engine, or causing running problems. I own a 2000 Golf TDi and plan on running biodiesel as a 20% mix until I can make my own biodiesel. Right now I cant because I cant fit the tanks into my condominium. :) - Original Message - From: Julia Mossbridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 1:51 PM Subject: [biofuel] newbie questions Hi there, I am very new to the biofuel group and am just trying to determine whether anyone thinks it's a good idea to buy a VW Beetle GLS TDI (1999) and then alter it to run on SVO. *If* there is someone out there who thinks this idea is reasonable (won't ruin the TDI, etc.), or someone who has done this, I'd love to hear about it. AND if there is someone out there who doesn't think this is a good idea, I'd love to hear about that too. On the off chance anyone knows someone in the Chicago area who can make this kind of alteration (i know I can't), I'd love their contact information. THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP! Blessings, Julia Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] My new ride=TDi
Hey Chris, thanks for the invite. I may take you up on it. My house is in Fleischmans, right by Bellayre ski area, in Delaware Cty. I love it up there, and wish to move as soon as child support stops beating me up,maybe in 3-4 years. So keep in touch, Im about to take the Golf for the first real ride, got my insurance today, tomorrow I go for some new tires, I love the Toyos. See ya busyditch - Original Message - From: Harriet To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] My new ride=TDi Hey Busyditch, where in upstate NY are you? I'm in Chenango county, 30 minutes west of Oneonta. If you're not too far, you're welcome to come on over and see our biodiesel setup. And, even if you are too far, you're still welcome to come over. Running a '87 Mercedes 300 TD Turbo wagon, on B100 (most of the year!). Chris Busyditch wrote: Well, I am now officially a newbie. Tonight I go pick up my 2000 VW Golf GLS TDi.. 50k miles. I can't wait! I'll be selling my gaz guzzling pick up truck. I really did my homework, and some day hope to make my own biodiesel at my weekend home in upstate NY. (tho, not too many fast food rests. in my area of the Catskill Mtns) Someday I will buy a diesel pick up, and use my homebrewed fuel. Thanks to all those who have helped so far, this is a wonderful list. -busyditch Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] My new ride=TDi
Do you have a pre heater, or just running the SVO straight with the diesel? I dont htinkI could do that herein the NE US, where the ambient temp is too cold most of the year. - Original Message - From: Sumit To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 3:16 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] My new ride=TDi Hey, I got an O3 Jetta TDI and am running 20% SVO. Anyone running B100 on a new VW 1.9 Turbo Diesel engine? I'm putting in 20% pure soy mixed with low sulphur (0.5%). Anyone got some tips on how lean I can go on the D2? Sumit - Original Message - From: Harriet [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] My new ride=TDi Hey Busyditch, where in upstate NY are you? I'm in Chenango county, 30 minutes west of Oneonta. If you're not too far, you're welcome to come on over and see our biodiesel setup. And, even if you are too far, you're still welcome to come over. Running a '87 Mercedes 300 TD Turbo wagon, on B100 (most of the year!). Chris Busyditch wrote: Well, I am now officially a newbie. Tonight I go pick up my 2000 VW Golf GLS TDi.. 50k miles. I can't wait! I'll be selling my gaz guzzling pick up truck. I really did my homework, and some day hope to make my own biodiesel at my weekend home in upstate NY. (tho, not too many fast food rests. in my area of the Catskill Mtns) Someday I will buy a diesel pick up, and use my homebrewed fuel. Thanks to all those who have helped so far, this is a wonderful list. -busyditch Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] NY Times arrticle
NY Times article dealing with the advent of diesel around the world http://www.stealthtdi.com/USSnubsDiesel.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] My new ride=TDi
Well, I am now officially a newbie. Tonight I go pick up my 2000 VW Golf GLS TDi.. 50k miles. I can't wait! I'll be selling my gaz guzzling pick up truck. I really did my homework, and some day hope to make my own biodiesel at my weekend home in upstate NY. (tho, not too many fast food rests. in my area of the Catskill Mtns) Someday I will buy a diesel pick up, and use my homebrewed fuel. Thanks to all those who have helped so far, this is a wonderful list. -busyditch Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] interesting ebay auction
This may help some of the list members. I live close to this person and may contact him. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2469000392category=34234 Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] VW TDi chip box
Has any member used one of these smart boxes, such as Speed Tuning or Van Aaken or such? Was wondering if they really improve mileage and power. Thanks Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: how to modify a diesel engine for biogas fuel
Try this, it explains that you dont need to modify your engine when using biodiesel, but you do for straight vegetable oil (SVO) http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_svo.html - Original Message - From: bazeeth ahamed [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 10:50 PM Subject: [biofuel] Re: how to modify a diesel engine for biogas fuel hi all i want to know how to modify a diesel engine to work on dual fuel(BIOGAS AND DIESEL). kindly forward the links from where i can find the details. Bazeeth Ahamed --- Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Theo We are interested in planting jatropha curcas for producing our own biodiesel and have found quite a bit of information on the net but a lot of it is conflicting. So we have a lot of questions that we need answering and would appreciate any help in this regard. We are also looking for a place to buy seeds, as there doesn't seem to be place where we can purchase in South Africa. 1. How much oil can we conservatively expect per hectare? 2. Do cuttings give a lower yield than seedlings/seeds and does this last over the life span of the tree? 3. What is the ideal spacing for planting and what are the best conditions for growing and planting? 4. How long does it take for the plant to yield nuts and for how long will it produce? 5. How often does the tree bear fruit? 6. Is it necessary to irrigate to get the maximum yield? 7. Must we protect the plant against specific pests and diseases? 8. What can we do with the remains of the nuts after pressing them for oil? 9. How much biodiesel can we expect to get out of processed oil? 1. Why do you want to plant jatropha? High yield? 2. Why do you want to plant a monocrop? Monocrops aren't sustainable - you'd want to produce sustainable biofuels via unsustainable ag methods? Anyway, do an archive search for jatropha (without the quotes), there's a lot of information there: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/ Including this: Jatropha curcas is a good option, but there are many other good options. The idea that it's the best option just doesn't take into account how development projects work, if they work at all, and this type of best technology thinking is one reason they often don't work. Almost any locally grown crop would have more going for it, regardless of Jatropha's yield and general usefulness. That's no reason not to use Jatropha, but it has to be fitted in properly, and once again full local involvement is essential for that to happen. Best Keith __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/