[biofuel] Re: Politics
Chris, you have no idea where to begin when saying anything about my state. So, I will give you a start. Guess what state I am from and you can say that you won this little battle. We are called the land of 10,000 lakes which is a blatent lie, we have 15,000. We have a large area in the arrowhead region of the state that has been set aside for recreation and does not allow the use of internal combustion engines (that would be a gas or diesel engine if you are from Texas.) Statewide we have several different cultures and backgrounds that until 11/5 were living safely in the part of the state we call the Twin Cities. Folks living in the greater part of the state (we do not call it outstate) have just begun to understand how they fit in the world and they are worried. They have been told by certain right wing radio personalities that if things continue that they might become the 'minority' and loose the comfortable lives they have. These are the same lives that they have lived since they forced the native population (that's Indians if you are from Texas) to the reservations. This was reinforced by the 9/11 attack. Speaking of Natives (I'm going to talk about Indians again, Chris), sportsmen are getting their undies in a bundle because the Native population has been allowed to hunt and fish as outlined in an 1872 treaty. The sportsmen do not like this and they want George Jr. to end this little treaty. Can you guess what state I am talking about? Here is another hint, we are straight north and a little bit east of where you are right now. fred --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], TexasTDI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't say anything about your state, so don't say anything about mine. Chris Thornton 1991 VW Jetta GL 2 Door 1.6D - 233k miles 2000 VW Golf GLS 1.9TDI 130hp/229ftlbs - 73k miles 1998 VW Passat GLS 1.8T -- FOR SALE Amsoil Synthetic Lubricants Dealer #1098500 http://texastdi.com/6/ubb.x - Original Message - From: fatguy1966 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 1:10 PM Subject: [biofuel] Re: Politics The True American was blinded by fear of 9/11. John Ass-croft has insisted that the rights of average Americans are un-thoughtfully trampled and the average Joe (or more appropraitely Yusef) can be held unconditionally and for as long as Ass-croft wants. Bush got all of the lapdogs he needs in congress. There will be no partisian politics because the voice of the common man has been silenced. Now he will do everything to trample the rights of you and the rest of your bootlicking Republican, head nodding, assholes as well as the rest of us who actually give a shit about the world and our place in it. There is a difference between the power of government protecting the populace and squashing some regime they don't like. Too bad you have bought the lies. The truth sucks. Then again, you live in Texas... That says enough, fred Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Sell a Home with Ease! http://us.click.yahoo.com/SrPZMC/kTmEAA/jd3IAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: Politics
Go ahead and be offended, Chris. I am not going to go ahead and play nice with you because you were offended. And it is not only Yankees that think Texans are dumb, have you ever been outside of the USA? You should what they think of Texans. Your former Governor and current President has done more to paint Texans as idoits than you ever could with your lame brained comments. Here is something that is offensive: Democrats are not patriots. They don't care what happened on 9/11. Dash-hole tried everything he could to stop Bush from protecting the Homeland. These non-patriots that you are referring to are trying to protect your rights from an oppressive government, not preventing the protection of the country. Look outside of the little box you live in and really look at what is going on, fred --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], TexasTDI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then again, you live in Texas... That says enough, This is your statement that I find offensive. I love how all you Yankees think Texans are dumb. Texas is the ONLY state in the Union that actually fought for it's independance from a foreign country. And the ONLY state that was it's own Republic before joining the US. From your description I'd say you live in Minnesota. I have a couple of friends from Minnesota. You give Minnesota residents a bad name. Chris Thornton 1991 VW Jetta GL 2 Door 1.6D - 233k miles 2000 VW Golf GLS 1.9TDI 130hp/229ftlbs - 73k miles 1998 VW Passat GLS 1.8T -- FOR SALE Amsoil Synthetic Lubricants Dealer #1098500 http://texastdi.com/6/ubb.x - Original Message - From: fatguy1966 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 1:13 AM Subject: [biofuel] Re: Politics Chris, you have no idea where to begin when saying anything about my state. So, I will give you a start. Guess what state I am from and you can say that you won this little battle. We are called the land of 10,000 lakes which is a blatent lie, we have 15,000. We have a large area in the arrowhead region of the state that has been set aside for recreation and does not allow the use of internal combustion engines (that would be a gas or diesel engine if you are from Texas.) Statewide we have several different cultures and backgrounds that until 11/5 were living safely in the part of the state we call the Twin Cities. Folks living in the greater part of the state (we do not call it outstate) have just begun to understand how they fit in the world and they are worried. They have been told by certain right wing radio personalities that if things continue that they might become the 'minority' and loose the comfortable lives they have. These are the same lives that they have lived since they forced the native population (that's Indians if you are from Texas) to the reservations. This was reinforced by the 9/11 attack. Speaking of Natives (I'm going to talk about Indians again, Chris), sportsmen are getting their undies in a bundle because the Native population has been allowed to hunt and fish as outlined in an 1872 treaty. The sportsmen do not like this and they want George Jr. to end this little treaty. Can you guess what state I am talking about? Here is another hint, we are straight north and a little bit east of where you are right now. fred --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], TexasTDI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't say anything about your state, so don't say anything about mine. Chris Thornton 1991 VW Jetta GL 2 Door 1.6D - 233k miles 2000 VW Golf GLS 1.9TDI 130hp/229ftlbs - 73k miles 1998 VW Passat GLS 1.8T -- FOR SALE Amsoil Synthetic Lubricants Dealer #1098500 http://texastdi.com/6/ubb.x - Original Message - From: fatguy1966 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 1:10 PM Subject: [biofuel] Re: Politics The True American was blinded by fear of 9/11. John Ass-croft has insisted that the rights of average Americans are un- thoughtfully trampled and the average Joe (or more appropraitely Yusef) can be held unconditionally and for as long as Ass-croft wants. Bush got all of the lapdogs he needs in congress. There will be no partisian politics because the voice of the common man has been silenced. Now he will do everything to trample the rights of you and the rest of your bootlicking Republican, head nodding, assholes as well as the rest of us who actually give a shit about the world and our place in it. There is a difference between the power of government protecting the populace and squashing some regime they don't like. Too bad you have bought the lies. The truth sucks. Then again, you live in Texas... That says enough, fred Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html
[biofuel] Re: It doesn't necessarily mean that Was: Politics
Curtis, No offense was taken just because someone was Republican or named any other party affiliation. I got pissed off at the comment: The true American people saw the light and realized it's going to take a Republican run government to get anything done, and said so with their vote. Democrats are not patriots. They don't care what happened on 9/11. Dash-hole tried everything he could to stop Bush from protecting the Homeland. Now we can finally move ahead of partisan politics and get something done in this country. He does not know what a real American is. In Minnesota we elected an idiot into the Senate because the other canidate was killed in a plane crash. The person that the Democrats put in place was old but still very qualified. Not very appealing to the MTV crowd you know. Norm Coleman has nice hair like Kennedy did. He must think that with nice hair he could run the country. But is a meat puppet of Junior. George has his hand up his butt and making ol' Normie say what ever Georgie wants. No one was pigeon-holed Curtis. There is nothing wrong with voting Republican. If that is the view that you have then so be it. I will stand and say what I think is right and I will not be pigeon-holed either. I am just pointing out that there is a jerk on the board and making sure that my views are known. fred --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], csakima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, just don't nobody pidgeon-hole ME into any category. Yes, I voted for a lot of Republican candidates but that was only because more of his views on the individual issues were in sync with mine .. NOT just because he was .. ahem .. REPUBLICAN. He could've ran under the democratic party ticket, and I still would've voted the same way (for him) .. so long as his views on the issues were the same. I didn't just vote so-call Republican ... just because I felt that, it's going to take a Republican run government to get anything done, and did NOT say so with MY vote. So there!! Curtis Get your free newsletter at http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL - Original Message - From: Harmon Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are so incredibly full of shit. Yeah, maybe we can now get on with the 2nd Civil War. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], TexasTDI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The true American people saw the light and realized it's going to take a Republican run government to get anything done, and said so with their vote. Democrats are not patriots. They don't care what happened on 9/11. Dash-hole tried everything he could to stop Bush from protecting the Homeland. Now we can finally move ahead of partisan politics and get something done in this country. - Introducing NetZero Long Distance 1st month Free! Sign up today at: www.netzerolongdistance.com Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: Politics
Hakan, Bin laden's actions were not necessary to begin with. Killing innocent people is wrong no matter who does it. Verbal jousting hurts no one. I say that the verbal equivaliant of flying two aircraft into the world trade center towers will do less damage than the actual act. So copy away Hakan, fred --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, Why do we not copy this whole thread of communication to Osama bin Laden. I am sure that he will realize that his activities are not necessary. Hakan At 04:40 PM 11/10/2002 +, you wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], fatguy1966 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The True American was blinded by fear of 9/11. John Ass-croft has insisted that the rights of average Americans are un- thoughtfully trampled and the average Joe (or more appropraitely Yusef) can be held unconditionally and for as long as Ass-croft wants. Puh-leeze! The name is Asscruft, get it straight! Asscruft, Asscruft. And I think the first name is actually Judas. The question is: Who'se the most evil man in the world today -- Judas Asscruft or Dimwit Dubbya? Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
WHOA!! - was Re: [biofuel] Re: Politics
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], TexasTDI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And diplomacy is the weapon of the cowardly. Oooh... Snappy little comeback Chris. Did you think of that on your own or did you have to listen to Rush Limbaugh to get that one? fred Chris Thornton 1991 VW Jetta GL 2 Door 1.6D - 233k miles 2000 VW Golf GLS 1.9TDI 130hp/229ftlbs - 73k miles 1998 VW Passat GLS 1.8T -- FOR SALE Amsoil Synthetic Lubricants Dealer #1098500 http://texastdi.com/6/ubb.x - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 6:17 AM Subject: Re: WHOA!! - was Re: [biofuel] Re: Politics Violence is the weapon of the weak. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: Politics
Bill, I realize that the question was not meant for me but to clarify, I am Christian, Catholic to be exact. fred --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], William Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just wondering if you considered yourself to be a christian. I am not, but , I spent most of my 45 years in the christian church. I have more to say but will wait for clarification on this. Bill C. - Original Message - From: TexasTDI [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Politics The true American people saw the light and realized it's going to take a Republican run government to get anything done, and said so with their vote. Democrats are not patriots. They don't care what happened on 9/11. Dash-hole tried everything he could to stop Bush from protecting the Homeland. Now we can finally move ahead of partisan politics and get something done in this country. Chris Thornton 1991 VW Jetta GL 2 Door 1.6D - 233k miles 2000 VW Golf GLS 1.9TDI 130hp/229ftlbs - 73k miles 1998 VW Passat GLS 1.8T -- FOR SALE Amsoil Synthetic Lubricants Dealer #1098500 http://texastdi.com/6/ubb.x - Original Message - From: Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Politics Alex writes: Suggest political discussions should be directed to political discussion groups--unless they directly empact on the production, distribution, and sale of bidiesel. Balderdash! In light of the recent elections in the US, which gave Bush the power to proceed, unrestrained, with his attacks on the environment, the sovereignty of nations, the rights of women, the US Constitution, etc., so-called political discussions have moved to the very TOP priority. Politics (in the broadest sense) is what we should ALL be discussing, at least until some sanity can be restored. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: Politics
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Harmon Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I worship Mother Earth and Father Sky, the religion of my ancestors, or at least most of them, the Indian and the Celtic. Harmon, Being a good Catholic, I can forgive that! ;-) fred --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], William Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Fred.Waiting for Chris. Bill C. - Original Message - From: fatguy1966 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 11:31 AM Subject: [biofuel] Re: Politics Bill, I realize that the question was not meant for me but to clarify, I am Christian, Catholic to be exact. fred --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], William Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just wondering if you considered yourself to be a christian. I am not, but , I spent most of my 45 years in the christian church. I have more to say but will wait for clarification on this. Bill C. - Original Message - From: TexasTDI [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Politics The true American people saw the light and realized it's going to take a Republican run government to get anything done, and said so with their vote. Democrats are not patriots. They don't care what happened on 9/11. Dash-hole tried everything he could to stop Bush from protecting the Homeland. Now we can finally move ahead of partisan politics and get something done in this country. Chris Thornton 1991 VW Jetta GL 2 Door 1.6D - 233k miles 2000 VW Golf GLS 1.9TDI 130hp/229ftlbs - 73k miles 1998 VW Passat GLS 1.8T -- FOR SALE Amsoil Synthetic Lubricants Dealer #1098500 http://texastdi.com/6/ubb.x - Original Message - From: Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Politics Alex writes: Suggest political discussions should be directed to political discussion groups--unless they directly empact on the production, distribution, and sale of bidiesel. Balderdash! In light of the recent elections in the US, which gave Bush the power to proceed, unrestrained, with his attacks on the environment, the sovereignty of nations, the rights of women, the US Constitution, etc., so-called political discussions have moved to the very TOP priority. Politics (in the broadest sense) is what we should ALL be discussing, at least until some sanity can be restored. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: The impression you are making Was:WHOA!! - Politics
Oh Gawd, Chris if you are talking about the Alamo, you are so full of crap that you have completely discredited yourself. First off, it was a seige not a battle. Second there may have been 30 Texans but there were more missonaries and just plain folks there who also got their asses kicked. Not only did they loose, they were all burned in a funeral pyre that caused the ground itself to burn from the fat running off of the bodies. No insult I hurl your direction could do more damage than you have done for your beloved state. fred The Alamo went as follows: taken from http://www.thealamo.org/historicpast.html Originally named Misin San Antonio de Valero, the Alamo served as home to missionaries and their Indian converts for nearly seventy years. Construction began on the present site in 1724. In 1793, Spanish officials secularized San Antonio's five missions and distributed their lands to the remaining Indian residents. These men and women continued to farm the fields ÷ once the mission's but now their own ÷ and participated in the growing community of San Antonio. In the early 1800s, the Spanish military stationed a cavalry unit at the former mission. The soldiers referred to the old mission as the Alamo (the Spanish word for cottonwood) in honor of their hometown Alamo de Parras, Coahuila. The post's commander established the first recorded hospital in Texas in the Long Barrack. The Alamo was home to both Revolutionaries and Royalists during Mexico's ten-year struggle for independence. The military ÷ Spanish, Rebel, and then Mexican ÷ continued to occupy the Alamo until the Texas Revolution. San Antonio and the Alamo played a critical role in the Texas Revolution. In December 1835, Ben Milam led Texian and Tejano volunteers against Mexican troops quartered in the city. After five days of house-to-house fighting, they forced General Marn Perfecto de Cs and his soldiers to surrender. The victorious volunteers then occupied the Alamo ÷ already fortified prior to the battle by Cs' men ÷ and strengthened its defenses. On February 23, 1836, the arrival of General Antonio Lpez de Santa Anna's army outside San Antonio nearly caught them by surprise. Undaunted, the Texians and Tejanos prepared to defend the Alamo together. The defenders held out for 13 days against Santa Anna's army. William B. Travis, the commander of the Alamo sent forth couriers carrying pleas for help to communities in Texas. On the eighth day of the siege, a band of 32 volunteers from Gonzales arrived, bringing the number of defenders to nearly two hundred. Legend holds that with the possibility of additional help fading, Colonel Travis drew a line on the ground and asked any man willing to stay and fight to step over ÷ all except one did. As the defenders saw it, the Alamo was the key to the defense of Texas, and they were ready to give their lives rather than surrender their position to General Santa Anna. Among the Alamo's garrison were Jim Bowie, renowned knife fighter, and David Crockett, famed frontiersman and former congressman from Tennessee. The final assault came before daybreak on the morning of March 6, 1836, as columns of Mexican soldiers emerged from the predawn darkness and headed for the Alamo's walls. Cannon and small arms fire from inside the Alamo beat back several attacks. Regrouping, the Mexicans scaled the walls and rushed into the compound. Once inside, they turned captured cannon on the Long Barrack and church, blasting open the barricaded doors. The desperate struggle continued until the defenders were overwhelmed. By sunrise, the battle had ended and Santa Anna entered the Alamo compound to survey the scene of his victory. While the facts surrounding the siege of the Alamo continue to be debated, there is no doubt about what the battle has come to symbolize. People worldwide continue to remember the Alamo as a heroic struggle against overwhelming odds ÷ a place where men made the ultimate sacrifice for freedom. For this reason the Alamo remains hallowed ground and the Shrine of Texas Liberty. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], TexasTDI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Texan's don't take no crap and aren't afraid of a fight. 30 dumb Texans fought and won a battle in San Antonio against 3000 Mexican soldiers that well better trained and better equipped. That should tell you a little of a Texan's personality. Unless you're a Texan, I don't expect you to understand. Chris Thornton 1991 VW Jetta GL 2 Door 1.6D - 233k miles 2000 VW Golf GLS 1.9TDI 130hp/229ftlbs - 73k miles 1998 VW Passat GLS 1.8T -- FOR SALE Amsoil Synthetic Lubricants Dealer #1098500 http://texastdi.com/6/ubb.x - Original Message - From: csakima [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 11:01 AM Subject: [biofuel] The impression you are making Was:WHOA!! - Politics And what?? The proper teaching tool of
[biofuel] Re: The impression you are making Was:WHOA!! - Politics
Because you won the war, not the battle. Unless it was 30 dumb Texans who won the state for everyone. Funny that some asshole from Minnesota knows Texas history better than an asshole from Texas. Looks like that Bush Literacy thing is working really well down there. fred --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], TexasTDI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If we lost, then why aren't we a part of Mexico then? I await your answer. Chris Thornton 1991 VW Jetta GL 2 Door 1.6D - 233k miles 2000 VW Golf GLS 1.9TDI 130hp/229ftlbs - 73k miles 1998 VW Passat GLS 1.8T -- FOR SALE Amsoil Synthetic Lubricants Dealer #1098500 http://texastdi.com/6/ubb.x - Original Message - From: fatguy1966 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 6:03 PM Subject: [biofuel] Re: The impression you are making Was:WHOA!! - Politics Oh Gawd, Chris if you are talking about the Alamo, you are so full of crap that you have completely discredited yourself. First off, it was a seige not a battle. Second there may have been 30 Texans but there were more missonaries and just plain folks there who also got their asses kicked. Not only did they loose, they were all burned in a funeral pyre that caused the ground itself to burn from the fat running off of the bodies. No insult I hurl your direction could do more damage than you have done for your beloved state. fred Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Sell a Home for Top $ http://us.click.yahoo.com/RrPZMC/jTmEAA/jd3IAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: Eudora was: The impression you are making Was:WHOA!! - Politics
Hakan, et.al., I apologize for the colorful language. I appeared to drop to the level of a Texan in order to get a point accross. I will be more careful in the future. Again, I apologize, fred --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Chris and Fred, I switched to Eudora mail client a while ago, because of the lesser risk of executing viruses and that it is also supported by Norton. Eudora have an interesting feature called mood watch and I have to thank you for supplying an excellent test. It is quite interesting to see the number of flames increasing with your e-mails. It should be a measurement of how offensive the language is. At the moment it is on maximum and guess what? It works!! Hakan At 12:25 AM 11/11/2002 +, you wrote: Because you won the war, not the battle. Unless it was 30 dumb Texans who won the state for everyone. Funny that some asshole from Minnesota knows Texas history better than an asshole from Texas. Looks like that Bush Literacy thing is working really well down there. fred --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], TexasTDI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If we lost, then why aren't we a part of Mexico then? I await your answer. Chris Thornton 1991 VW Jetta GL 2 Door 1.6D - 233k miles 2000 VW Golf GLS 1.9TDI 130hp/229ftlbs - 73k miles 1998 VW Passat GLS 1.8T -- FOR SALE Amsoil Synthetic Lubricants Dealer #1098500 http://texastdi.com/6/ubb.x - Original Message - From: fatguy1966 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 6:03 PM Subject: [biofuel] Re: The impression you are making Was:WHOA!! - Politics Oh Gawd, Chris if you are talking about the Alamo, you are so full of crap that you have completely discredited yourself. First off, it was a seige not a battle. Second there may have been 30 Texans but there were more missonaries and just plain folks there who also got their asses kicked. Not only did they loose, they were all burned in a funeral pyre that caused the ground itself to burn from the fat running off of the bodies. No insult I hurl your direction could do more damage than you have done for your beloved state. fred Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: Eudora was: The impression you are making Was:WHOA!! - Politics
Chris, for the first time in this exchange, you are right. I apologize for the final cheap shot. Passion is something I seem to have a lot of these days. again, I'm sorry, fred --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], TexasTDI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And once again a cheap shot. Nice work there. REALLY mature. :rolleyes: If name calling won't be allowed, than sarcastic cheap shots like this shouldn't be allowed either. If you're gonna apologize, be a man and apologize without senseless cheap shots. Chris Thornton 1991 VW Jetta GL 2 Door 1.6D - 233k miles 2000 VW Golf GLS 1.9TDI 130hp/229ftlbs - 73k miles 1998 VW Passat GLS 1.8T -- FOR SALE Amsoil Synthetic Lubricants Dealer #1098500 http://texastdi.com/6/ubb.x - Original Message - From: fatguy1966 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 6:59 PM Subject: [biofuel] Re: Eudora was: The impression you are making Was:WHOA!! - Politics Hakan, et.al., I apologize for the colorful language. I appeared to drop to the level of a Texan in order to get a point accross. I will be more careful in the future. Again, I apologize, fred Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Sell a Home with Ease! http://us.click.yahoo.com/SrPZMC/kTmEAA/jd3IAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: Politics
The True American was blinded by fear of 9/11. John Ass-croft has insisted that the rights of average Americans are un-thoughtfully trampled and the average Joe (or more appropraitely Yusef) can be held unconditionally and for as long as Ass-croft wants. Bush got all of the lapdogs he needs in congress. There will be no partisian politics because the voice of the common man has been silenced. Now he will do everything to trample the rights of you and the rest of your bootlicking Republican, head nodding, assholes as well as the rest of us who actually give a shit about the world and our place in it. There is a difference between the power of government protecting the populace and squashing some regime they don't like. Too bad you have bought the lies. The truth sucks. Then again, you live in Texas... That says enough, fred --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], TexasTDI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The true American people saw the light and realized it's going to take a Republican run government to get anything done, and said so with their vote. Democrats are not patriots. They don't care what happened on 9/11. Dash-hole tried everything he could to stop Bush from protecting the Homeland. Now we can finally move ahead of partisan politics and get something done in this country. Chris Thornton 1991 VW Jetta GL 2 Door 1.6D - 233k miles 2000 VW Golf GLS 1.9TDI 130hp/229ftlbs - 73k miles 1998 VW Passat GLS 1.8T -- FOR SALE Amsoil Synthetic Lubricants Dealer #1098500 http://texastdi.com/6/ubb.x - Original Message - From: Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Politics Alex writes: Suggest political discussions should be directed to political discussion groups--unless they directly empact on the production, distribution, and sale of bidiesel. Balderdash! In light of the recent elections in the US, which gave Bush the power to proceed, unrestrained, with his attacks on the environment, the sovereignty of nations, the rights of women, the US Constitution, etc., so-called political discussions have moved to the very TOP priority. Politics (in the broadest sense) is what we should ALL be discussing, at least until some sanity can be restored. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Plan to Sell a Home? http://us.click.yahoo.com/J2SnNA/y.lEAA/jd3IAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Greenpeace - was Re: [biofuel] Re: An example of what we're up against.
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the case of Mandela he was a terrorist of the worst kind a person who set off bombs killing people. Please provide the proof that this was indeed fact. Documentation will either prove that you are telling the truth or not. I am not willing to believe this or anything said unless it is established as fact. Please cite at least three sources of this information. Do not include documents of the former political structure in South Africa. They cannot be believed. Until you provide this do not post anything on the topic. It is very annoying. fred Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Home Selling? Try Us! http://us.click.yahoo.com/QrPZMC/iTmEAA/jd3IAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: help
Hot Dog, I will be willing to bet that if you ask a specific question you will get an answer. If you need someone to hold your hand while you do this, It may be difficult seeing as members of the list are spread around the world. fred --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Hot Dog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just wondering if there is anyone who reads these messages that actually knows anything about biodiesel production. Or is this just a political activists site ? Please could someone let me know as I am in need of assistance, should I search for other sites or just give up ? Many thanks _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Home Selling? Try Us! http://us.click.yahoo.com/QrPZMC/iTmEAA/MVfIAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: A trip through retrofit hell...
Mushrooms are my passion and a hobby that has gotten out of control. You can grow mushrooms on just about anything that has natural fibers. I have grown them on paper,Toilet paper (very weird), sawdust, coffee grounds, and some crappy paperback books that my wife had wanted to sell in the garage sale but no one would want. Let me know if you have any questions about this one. I know mushrooms. fred --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Grahams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 02:09 PM 9/23/2002 -0600, you wrote: If you have access to cotton!!! I would turn that cotton into mushrooms. There are several papers on mushroom culture on cotton waste. Turn cellulose into yummy! One of the projects on my list was going to be growing mushrooms on coffee grounds. But my husband stopped drinking coffee this month (too weird for words), so I shall have to try another medium- tea leaves?, mulch?, I think I saw paper would work. (plenty of junk mail!) :) Caroline Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Sell a Home for Top $ http://us.click.yahoo.com/RrPZMC/jTmEAA/MVfIAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: A trip through retrofit hell...and mushrooms
Kirk, I have about all of the literature that you can have on growing fungus. I like to joke that I have have hands of stomach and everything I touch turns to shit, so it is good to grow mushrooms then. Hydrogen Peroxide is good if you like to play with tissue transfers and do not want to spend a ton of money of things like a laminar flow station. I have spent a ton of money and use the laminar flow station for a lot of different things like plant tissue cultures and yeast cultivation for brewing. I have Rush Wayne's book on the subject. E-mail me off-list and I can give you some detail. If you are looking for something like spawn for mass innoculaton there are several places where spawn is available. The mushroom cultivation book to check out: Growing Gourmet and Medicinal Mushrooms - By Paul Stamets. He is sort of the Gruru of cultivation. His views of psychedelics may be contrarian but his techniques are state of the art in cultivation. He also have a business called Fungi Perfecti (http://fungi.com). He sells just about anything and everything for mushrooms. There are also several other spawn dealers who are cheaper in price but Stamets backs up his spawn with either money or replacements. The thing I like is that after you are done growing on the substrate it could be placed in a methane digester for heat and fuel. (I have met Keith's requirement of keeping this in the scope of Biofuels with this paragraph so as to keep this on the list.) Let me know if there is more that you want to know, fred --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any info is welcome. Books you recommend, good sources of spawn, things you have noticed, tips and techniques. I see hydrogen peroxide touted as an alternative to steam sterilization of media. What do you think? Have you grown Reishi? Portabello? Hey Keith, do want this off list or is it OK here? Kirk -Original Message- From: fatguy1966 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 8:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [biofuel] Re: A trip through retrofit hell... Mushrooms are my passion and a hobby that has gotten out of control. You can grow mushrooms on just about anything that has natural fibers. I have grown them on paper,Toilet paper (very weird), sawdust, coffee grounds, and some crappy paperback books that my wife had wanted to sell in the garage sale but no one would want. Let me know if you have any questions about this one. I know mushrooms. fred --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Grahams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 02:09 PM 9/23/2002 -0600, you wrote: If you have access to cotton!!! I would turn that cotton into mushrooms. There are several papers on mushroom culture on cotton waste. Turn cellulose into yummy! One of the projects on my list was going to be growing mushrooms on coffee grounds. But my husband stopped drinking coffee this month (too weird for words), so I shall have to try another medium- tea leaves?, mulch?, I think I saw paper would work. (plenty of junk mail!) :) Caroline Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.384 / Virus Database: 216 - Release Date: 8/21/2002 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Sell a Home with Ease! http://us.click.yahoo.com/SrPZMC/kTmEAA/MVfIAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Webconx?
Is Steve Spence's Webconx site down? I cannot seem to get it or anything close to it? fred Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Home Selling? Try Us! http://us.click.yahoo.com/QrPZMC/iTmEAA/MVfIAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: $7.5 Million Feedstock Subsidy for SSPC
Robyn, Being a person with a disability I know firsthand the difficulty of having my needs and abilities recognized. I am not going to get into the nature of the disabilities however, if you were offended by the statements made by me, then be offended. I am not sorry that I made them and will not apologize. If you have such a thin skin, perhaps you should not be reading such posts. fred --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Gobert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HOW DARE YOU! This is sueable language these days and quite uncalled for, FRED... People with disabilities are striving hard to have their needs recognised and to fight exactly the sort of thing you've, in your blatant IGNORANCE written here. Unbelievable diatribe, you should be ashamed to take breath! Robyn Gobert, Paul Gobert's wife, www.e-bility.com/articles - Original Message - From: fatguy1966 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 10:08 AM Subject: [biofuel] Re: $7.5 Million Feedstock Subsidy for SSPC Harmon, Please keep in mind that most evil retards work in either law enforcement or politics. The good retards also known as the 'Tards in White, would be offended that they are known and referred to as retarted. They prefer the term Developmentally Delayed (politicians and law enforcement excluded.) Here is my example of an evil retard. We have Guv'ner Turnbuckle telling us that because we are under attack by the taliban that he has the responsibility to raise taxes. His daughter is developmentally delayed and could do a better job in office than he can. fred --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Harmon Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 06:40:44AM +0900, Keith Addison wrote: Someone said the other day: I'd rather have a competent president in bed with an intern than an incompetent one in bed with an oil company. At least one - don't flame me for that please you guys in Well, we had 8 years of a smart but evil president (with a worse environmental record of anybody since Nixon, I think, and both Nixon and Reagan were arguably better) and now we've got a really evil retard. Just goes to show that when you choose the lesser of two evils, you always have evil. Pretty hopeless situation -- but what do you expect of a nation that leads the world in obesity? And I currently live in Wisconsin, which state leads the US in obesity. Our governor just recently announced a one billion dollar shortfall in the state budget, they're even going to lay off college professors, and at least one braindead state legislator is calling for the total closing of at least one of the state universities. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- FREE COLLEGE MONEY CLICK HERE to search 600,000 scholarships! http://us.click.yahoo.com/iZp8OC/4m7CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: Imported post
Libertarians Rule! Biophule forever! I wish this was really the case, unfortunatly the Anarchists are better organized than the Libertarians are!! fred Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Got a Truck!!!
Okay, While I am in mid purchase of a 1983 Ford Ranger with a Mazda 2.2 litre diesel engine, I am hoping if there is someone out there who can answer some questions that I have. To start, does anyone know if there is a shop or garage that would have parts for this little beast? The closer to Minnesota the better (Dana?). In the event that there are repairs or a new engine is required I would like to have a one stop for either. Secondly, Does anyone know what kind of injector pump this may have. The position of the pump does not make it easy to see the information placard. Finally, I would like to thank everyone for all of the information I have not decided if I want to make my own Biodiesel or convert to SVO or both. All I know is I have a place to start and a truck to start it with. (--- notice the typical MN ending on a sentance with a preposition) fred in MN (where the winter is non-existant this year!!!) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Tiny Wireless Camera under $80! Order Now! FREE VCR Commander! Click Here - Only 1 Day Left! http://us.click.yahoo.com/WoOlbB/7.PDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/