Re: [Biofuel] Does anyone distill ethanol here?

2005-09-22 Thread Rexis Tree
http://www.journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/ethanol_manual/manual_ToC.html

http://www.journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/ethanol_drane.html

and more...basically i never tried any ethanol fuel myself, but i
believe there must be someone out there in this mailist that do.
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Re: [Biofuel] Does anyone distill ethanol here?

2005-09-22 Thread Brian Rodgers
I can only speak as one person in a group of thousands of alternate
fuelers, I came to this list earlier this Summer thinking ethanol and
stills but listening to the difficulties in that process compared to
biodiesel processing made me change everything I was planning.
Although I am a rusty mechanic who worked exclusively with gas powered
VWs I never really worked with diesel engines. The people in this
group are an incredible inspiration. I have modified everything
mechanical that I own, never satisfied with 'off the shelf' products.
I have a still in the back of my head and intend to do it someday but
it is actually the beer (mash) brewing that has me leery, not the
distillation. JTF has info and links to every type of still ever
conceived. The continuous feed still used in the whisky industry is
state of the art. However the dry process still used in the mid-west
U.S. takes corn and turns it into 190 proof ethanol with record
efficiency. Wait until you see how complex and expensive not to
mention dangerous ethanol is compared to bio-diesel. Just Google any
of these terms like 'ethanol' or 'dry mill process'  There is a reason
that just about any alternate fuel search query brings up a reference
to Journeytoforever web pages, these people 'have it going on.' Yeah,
not to be discouraged about ethanol, I'm not. It is overwhelmingly
encouraging how much more suited to the back yard shop the bio-diesel
process is. So much so that I believe it is frugal to switch my
vehicles to diesel and learn all there is to learn about this
technology while it's hot. Want to see a totally amazing gas engine
mod? Take a look at Robert's Hydrogen supercharged gas Ranger. 
http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/
Doing the flip flop... again!
Keep an open mind if you can
Brian Rodgers

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Re: [Biofuel] Does anyone distill ethanol here?

2005-09-22 Thread robert luis rabello
Brian Rodgers wrote:


 Want to see a totally amazing gas engine
 mod? Take a look at Robert's Hydrogen supercharged gas Ranger. 
 http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/

Woah, Brian!  As much as I'd LOVE to take credit for that, the 
hydrogen modifications were done by the Xerox company, not me!  My 
truck still burns gasoline, but that's going to change . . .


robert luis rabello
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http://www.newadventure.ca

Ranger Supercharger Project Page
http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/



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Re: [Biofuel] Does anyone distill ethanol here?

2005-09-22 Thread Brian Rodgers
Still very cool mods there Robert. I know that it takes so much time
to do the type of thing you are working on with your Ranger and then
on top of that documenting the whole process, wow. Great job.
I was a bit confused about the supercharger and reference to hydrogen,
sorry about that.
Do you foresee injecting hydrogen into gas engines in the future as feasible?
Respectfully,
Brian Rodgers

On 9/22/05, robert luis rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Brian Rodgers wrote:


  Want to see a totally amazing gas engine
  mod? Take a look at Robert's Hydrogen supercharged gas Ranger.
  http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/

 Woah, Brian!  As much as I'd LOVE to take credit for that, the
 hydrogen modifications were done by the Xerox company, not me!  My
 truck still burns gasoline, but that's going to change . . .


 robert luis rabello
 The Edge of Justice
 Adventure for Your Mind
 http://www.newadventure.ca

 Ranger Supercharger Project Page
 http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/



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Re: [Biofuel] Does anyone distill ethanol here?

2005-09-22 Thread robert luis rabello
Brian Rodgers wrote:

 Still very cool mods there Robert. I know that it takes so much time
 to do the type of thing you are working on with your Ranger and then
 on top of that documenting the whole process, wow. Great job.

Thank you!  It's been a long road, and I'm not finished yet.  Right 
now I have a bit of a problem with the mass airflow unit that will 
probably result in dispensing with the factory computer and putting in 
a speed density system like the Megasquirt.

 I was a bit confused about the supercharger and reference to hydrogen,
 sorry about that.

That's ok.  I was flattered, at least for a moment!

 Do you foresee injecting hydrogen into gas engines in the future as feasible?

Maybe not pure H2, but a gas fuel will definitely work.  (Although 
with gas prices going up all the time, electrolytic hydrogen might 
actually be cheaper pretty soon!)  Direct injection is the way to go 
with gaseous fuels, and since my cylinder head has TWO spark plugs for 
each chamber, I don't have to modify the head to do it.  I've been 
looking into building a modified gasification unit to run a 
combination of compressed wood gas (for volatility) and vegetable oil, 
since I can't do ethanol up here.  With a programmable onboard 
computer, I can change the injection parameters to suit any fuel I 
want to run.  Whether I can pull that off on my own is another story, 
however . . .


robert luis rabello
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[Biofuel] Does anyone distill ethanol here?

2005-09-21 Thread Aragorn
Hello

I an trying to find info on distilling fuel ethanol. 

It seems that this group is almost totallybiodeisel. 

If no one distills ethanol here, then I am sorry for inconveviencing the group with my posts.

Thanks
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Re: [Biofuel] Does anyone distill ethanol here?

2005-09-21 Thread robert luis rabello
Aragorn wrote:

 Hello
  
 I an trying to find info on distilling fuel ethanol.

There's LOTS of that at the JTF site.


 It seems that this group is almost totally biodeisel.

Perhaps more VOCALLY biodiesel, but there may be other reasons for that.


 If no one distills ethanol here, then I am sorry for inconveviencing the 
 group with my posts.

Feel free to ask questions in this forum.  There are many people from 
all over the world who subscribe here, including folk from Brasil, 
where fuel ethanol has been available for many years, and New Zealand, 
where distillation enjoys no legal prohibition.

robert luis rabello
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