RE: [biofuel] Early 80's Mercedes-Benz turbo diesel fuel tank problem (Flaking and clogging)
I just bought an '83 300TD, everything seems alright with the fuel system, so I'm no help there...but, I am in the process of restoring a '68 Ford Ranchero GT that had sat for seven years with half a tank of gas. What was left was a horrible, stinking, gooey tar mess. After extensive research, I came up with a cleaning and coating system from Eastwood for about $50, and I am VERY happy with the results...a diesel tank should be easy. Beware though, once you get that Eastwood catalog, you WILL be sending them all your money for their goodies. Are you going to run a two tank system? I have just started a list for Mercedes bio users, so as not to clog up this list with car talk...but if we have anything interesting I'll rush back here and share it with you here at 'biofuels' The new group is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Mercedes on Biofuels everybody welcome...but beware, we are going to talk some crap, it will be wide open...wild and crazy...till it gets out of hand and I'll have to put the 'clamps' on. Richard U -Original Message- From: Steven Pfaff I read a post a few days ago about a problem with the fuel tanks on the early 80's Benz diesels, and I have some questions regarding this issue. I am looking at buying two of four Mercedes-Benz 300D's years 1979-1983 (the '79 is a coupe and the others are sedans). I suspect three of the four have been sitting a year or more. I remember reading that something inside the fuel tank was flaking off and clogging the fuel system. Is this the actual inside of the tank or buildup of some sort? Is it uncertain what this material is? Is it absolutely necessary to replace the fuel tank in this instance? How long did your vehicle run before the problem arose? Was the clog (obstruction) in the fuel line/hose, or in the filter? I also remember reading that the fuel tanks were of some difficulty to obtain, but possibly only for certain models ie; wagons. How much did you pay for the tank? Where did you get it? Did you do the repairs yourself or did you go to a mechanic? - Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] Early 80's Mercedes-Benz turbo diesel fuel tank problem (Flaking and clogging)
Not planning on using a two tank system, at least not right away. I will wait and see if I'm able to produce enough biodiesel to run b100 and if so how the b100 runs through a Wisconsin winter. Thanks for the lead though, I was worried I would be spending a lot more if I had to recoat either of those tanks. Steven Richard U [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just bought an '83 300TD, everything seems alright with the fuel system, so I'm no help there...but, I am in the process of restoring a '68 Ford Ranchero GT that had sat for seven years with half a tank of gas. What was left was a horrible, stinking, gooey tar mess. After extensive research, I came up with a cleaning and coating system from Eastwood for about $50, and I am VERY happy with the results...a diesel tank should be easy. Beware though, once you get that Eastwood catalog, you WILL be sending them all your money for their goodies. Are you going to run a two tank system? I have just started a list for Mercedes bio users, so as not to clog up this list with car talk...but if we have anything interesting I'll rush back here and share it with you here at 'biofuels' The new group is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Mercedes on Biofuels everybody welcome...but beware, we are going to talk some crap, it will be wide open...wild and crazy...till it gets out of hand and I'll have to put the 'clamps' on. Richard U -Original Message- From: Steven Pfaff I read a post a few days ago about a problem with the fuel tanks on the early 80's Benz diesels, and I have some questions regarding this issue. I am looking at buying two of four Mercedes-Benz 300D's years 1979-1983 (the '79 is a coupe and the others are sedans). I suspect three of the four have been sitting a year or more. I remember reading that something inside the fuel tank was flaking off and clogging the fuel system. Is this the actual inside of the tank or buildup of some sort? Is it uncertain what this material is? Is it absolutely necessary to replace the fuel tank in this instance? How long did your vehicle run before the problem arose? Was the clog (obstruction) in the fuel line/hose, or in the filter? I also remember reading that the fuel tanks were of some difficulty to obtain, but possibly only for certain models ie; wagons. How much did you pay for the tank? Where did you get it? Did you do the repairs yourself or did you go to a mechanic? - Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT - Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Early 80's Mercedes-Benz turbo diesel fuel tank problem (Flaking and clogging)
Steven Pfaff wrote: I read a post a few days ago about a problem with the fuel tanks on the early 80's Benz diesels, and I have some questions regarding this issue. I am looking at buying two of four Mercedes-Benz 300D's years 1979-1983 (the '79 is a coupe and the others are sedans). I suspect three of the four have been sitting a year or more. I remember reading that something inside the fuel tank was flaking off and clogging the fuel system. Is this the actual inside of the tank or buildup of some sort? Is it uncertain what this material is? Is it absolutely necessary to replace the fuel tank in this instance? How long did your vehicle run before the problem arose? Was the clog (obstruction) in the fuel line/hose, or in the filter? I also remember reading that the fuel tanks were of some difficulty to obtain, but possibly only for certain models ie; wagons. How much did you pay for the tank? Where did you get it? Did you do the repairs yourself or did you go to a mechanic? If something was flaking off, it was either rust or a coating on the inside. In either case you should change the tank. A tank for an 80s Mercedes is [I'm guessing] in the hundreds-of-dollars range, unless you find a good source. Changing a fuel tank is a straight-forward operation, disconnect everything, undo straps, put in the new one. The sending unit may be rusting out if the tank is in bad shape. I'm not the person you were looking for, but I'm trying to give you some info. -- -- Martin Klingensmith http://infoarchive.net/ http://nnytech.net/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Early 80's Mercedes-Benz turbo diesel fuel tank problem (Flaking and clogging)
Stephen, I think I have some ownership to this issue. I have an '82 300TD that was listed on Ebay for sale here in Savannah, Ga. I ended up buying it directly from the seller. Thefirst time I looked at the vehicle, it had a stalling problem. I asked the seller to fix it and he agreed to drop the tank, clean it out, remount it an and flush the fuel lines and replace the fuel filters. All the crook ended up doing for me was topping off the fuel tank and replacing two fuel filters. Certainly not what he promissed me. Avoid doing business in Savannah Ga with Road Savannah rather if your in town see Dietmar or Scott at Autobahn Service Center. 912.352.0719 I bought the car on good faith that the stalling problem had been dealt with. It left me by the side of the road three times. Each time I had just replaced the two fuel filters and primed the fuel system. I examined the fuel coming from inside the fuel filter and it actualy contained green slime and rusty and even some shiny metal fragments. The Prefilter was stuck full of rust/slime/steel fragments each time. If you like I still have one and I can easily mail you out one for you benefit. I drained the tank entirely. There was 15 gallons in side it with a couple of gallons of green slime and 10-12 gallons of diesel fuel. I took a clear veggie oil bottle containing slime/diesel/metal fragments down to the Autobahn service center and I talked to Dietmar about some problems I was having with the 300TD. Dietmar told me that fuel tanks for cars put up for storage should be kept full and that it's a common problem for Mercedes fuel tanks to flake after the have set up for a year plus. I asked the Autobahn center to quote me the new requisite parts, fuel tank, etc. Work and everything would have come out to $900US. Dietmar said I should try a used tank however and told me of his mechanic friend in another city with a similar car that was being parted out. Dietmar contacted his buddy and brokered a sale of the remains for $200. I had to pay a towtruck $185 to go and get the car for me as the damn UHAUL people would not rent me a tow dolly to tow a salvage mercedes with my F250 which has a diesel engine in it I cut/ bodged out the used fuel tank off the car in my back yard and it had some rust on it so I took a grinder to it, then some spray paint. The used tank installed like a bug snug in a rug. I have clean fuel and a 300TD that won't stall out on me now. Plus a scrap car with a buch of other parts I'll need soon like decent rims, rear shocks, etc. I did all the labor myself. The wagons have a self-leveling system and getting the forth bolt unscrewed was a big pain. So gues what nut didn't go back on! I hope I've answered your questions. Cheers! Michael Michael Patrick Lendzian Information Technology Manager Skidaway Institute of Oceanography Savannah, GA 31411 912.598.2330 On Fri, 28 May 2004, Steven Pfaff wrote: I read a post a few days ago about a problem with the fuel tanks on the early 80's Benz diesels, and I have some questions regarding this issue. I am looking at buying two of four Mercedes-Benz 300D's years 1979-1983 (the '79 is a coupe and the others are sedans). I suspect three of the four have been sitting a year or more. I remember reading that something inside the fuel tank was flaking off and clogging the fuel system. Is this the actual inside of the tank or buildup of some sort? Is it uncertain what this material is? Is it absolutely necessary to replace the fuel tank in this instance? How long did your vehicle run before the problem arose? Was the clog (obstruction) in the fuel line/hose, or in the filter? I also remember reading that the fuel tanks were of some difficulty to obtain, but possibly only for certain models ie; wagons. How much did you pay for the tank? Where did you get it? Did you do the repairs yourself or did you go to a mechanic? - Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit
