[biofuel] Michigan, USA Biodiesel makers
Hi, Is there any backyard Biodiesel makers in the Michigan area that can help me. I am having a problem that I just can't get figured out. I would like to talk or meet with you to see if you can tell me what I am doing wrong. I have made some fuel and had no problems doing it and all of a sudden I can't get it to work. I think some thing is contaminated or maybe my Lye is old or bad. I don't know. Thanks Rick M Brownstown, Mi. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Michigan Prices for Sulfuric Acid, Methanol, Potassium Hydroxide
x-charset ISO-8859-1Hallo Folks, These are the prices I can get for the stuff in the subject line: Prices are delivered each with a $25.00 drum deposit. **Remember we have a min order charge of $300.00, which of course means if their total order does not add up to $300. they will be billed the difference to have it delivered otherwise they can pick up material at the Lansing or Warren locations. SULFURIC ACID 66 DEGREE 229# DRUM $0.80 PER POUND 750# DRUM $0.30 PER POUND METHANOL 356# DRUM $2.85 PER GALLON POTASSIUM HYDROXIDE 45% SOLUTION 49 PAIL $1.27 PER POUND *THIS IS CLEANROOM GRADE Thanks if you have any questions please let me know. Out of Lansing or Warren Michigan. Happy Happy, Gustl -- Je mehr wir haben, desto mehr fordert Gott von uns. Mitglied-Team AMIGA ICQ: 22211253-Gustli The safest road to Hell is the gradual one - the gentle slope, soft underfoot, without sudden turnings, without milestones, without signposts. C. S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters Es gibt Wahrheiten, die so sehr auf der Straà liegen, daà?sie gerade deshalb von der gewëænlichen Welt nicht gesehen oder wenigstens nicht erkannt werden. Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music. George Carlin Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ /x-charset
Re: [biofuel] Michigan Biofuelers-CORRECTION
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Re: [biofuel] Michigan Biofuelers
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[biofuel] Michigan Biofuelers
x-charset ISO-8859-1Hallo Folks, I live in southeastern Michigan in Lenawee county. I am about 45 minutes south of Jackson, 1.5 hours southeast of Lansing (where 2 of my children live so I get there more than I would like), about 1.25 hours east of Toledo, Ohio and about 1-1.5 hours east of Angola, Indiana. I am near the town of Morenci out in the boonies. Adrian is the closes larger city near to us (about 35 minutes). I am interested in networking and exchanging info/sources for the immediate area. Offlist I would think but keeping in mind that anything in which others on the list may be interested should be posted. My oldest daughter, Leni, is an environmental scientist living near Lansing. She lives with another girl, Loretta, who she went to school and then college with. Loretta is a chemist and works for one of the chemical plants in the Lansing area. She is checking on prices for KOH and methanol for me (as well as sulphuric acit). According to her since I am the head of a 501(c)(3) (non-profit) and will be buying the stuff for the organization she can get me a really low price for it. I can get it by the cup, drum or bulk delivers of 1000 gallons or more. If anyone within shouting distance wants to contact me feel free. I should have the exact prices by Wednesday of this week. Happy Happy, Gustl -- Je mehr wir haben, desto mehr fordert Gott von uns. Mitglied-Team AMIGA ICQ: 22211253-Gustli The safest road to Hell is the gradual one - the gentle slope, soft underfoot, without sudden turnings, without milestones, without signposts. C. S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters Es gibt Wahrheiten, die so sehr auf der Straà liegen, daà?sie gerade deshalb von der gewëænlichen Welt nicht gesehen oder wenigstens nicht erkannt werden. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ /x-charset
Re: [biofuel] Michigan Biofuelers-CORRECTION
x-charset ISO-8859-1Hallo , Sunday, 25 January, 2004, 14:27:39, you wrote: GSZ I live in southeastern Michigan in Lenawee county. I am about GSZ 1.25 hours WEST of Toledo, Ohio -- Je mehr wir haben, desto mehr fordert Gott von uns. Mitglied-Team AMIGA ICQ: 22211253-Gustli The safest road to Hell is the gradual one - the gentle slope, soft underfoot, without sudden turnings, without milestones, without signposts. C. S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters Es gibt Wahrheiten, die so sehr auf der Straà liegen, daà?sie gerade deshalb von der gewëænlichen Welt nicht gesehen oder wenigstens nicht erkannt werden. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ /x-charset
Re: [biofuel] Michigan Biodiesel makers?
In a message dated 01/17/2004 12:16:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: was it red devil lye? Yes it was Red Devil lye that I used. Is that a problem? Rick M Brownstown, Mi. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Michigan Biodiesel makers?
was it red devil lye? and a fellow in sanvanna gets 50 gallon drums of menthoal in easton, georgia for 2.10 per gallon [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re[2]: [biofuel] Michigan Biodiesel makers?
Hallo Folks, For those of you living in Michigan who may have missed my initial messages let me reiterate something. In Michigan it is AGAINST THE LAW to haul WVO without the proper HAZMAT licenses. This means that if you are caught you are up for some big fines and so is the person who gave or sold you the waste oil. Do not be stupid about what you are doing. Be careful, don't spill any anywhere and definitely protect your sources. You don't want to get some kind soul in trouble with the law, or yourself either for that matter. IF you buy your oil from someone who has already paid the outrageous fees for hauling the biodegradable substance then you have no restrictions. If you live close to a state without such stupid restrictions (as I do to Ohio) then you don't have a problem either. In any case just be careful and protect both yourself and your source. Stupid laws are still laws and if you piss someone off, particularly someone who has paid all that money to haul the oil, then you may be reported and targeted. CYA (cover your asses) folks. Happy Happy, Gustl Friday, 16 January, 2004, 10:57:09, you wrote: RAC Hi Johnny, RAC I am just getting started. I made my first blender batch last night. I made RAC a perfect batch of GLOP. I am using new oil right now untill I figure it RAC out. I don't think my Lye and Methanol mixed right. RAC I got 5 gal of Methanol from the internet. It was expensive but I just RAC wanted to get started to see if I could do it. I will look for cheaper after I get RAC it down right. The Lye I found in a ACE hardware. RAC Let me know how you do RAC Rick M ...snip... -- Je mehr wir haben, desto mehr fordert Gott von uns. Mitglied-Team AMIGA ICQ: 22211253-Gustli The safest road to Hell is the gradual one - the gentle slope, soft underfoot, without sudden turnings, without milestones, without signposts. C. S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters Es gibt Wahrheiten, die so sehr auf der Stra§e liegen, da§ sie gerade deshalb von der gewhnlichen Welt nicht gesehen oder wenigstens nicht erkannt werden. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Michigan Biodiesel makers?
hi Rick my name Johnny sanguedolce i live in pa (around williamsport area) I'm going to look at a processor in sannvana ga have you gotten passed the titration point menthol and lye I'm have a hard time locating lye How much have you spent for the menthol per gal. please get back thanks the ping [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Michigan Biodiesel makers?
Hi Johnny, I am just getting started. I made my first blender batch last night. I made a perfect batch of GLOP. I am using new oil right now untill I figure it out. I don't think my Lye and Methanol mixed right. I got 5 gal of Methanol from the internet. It was expensive but I just wanted to get started to see if I could do it. I will look for cheaper after I get it down right. The Lye I found in a ACE hardware. Let me know how you do Rick M hi Rick my name Johnny sanguedolce i live in pa (around williamsport area) I'm going to look at a processor in sannvana ga have you gotten passed the titration point menthol and lye I'm have a hard time locating lye How much have you spent for the menthol per gal. please get back thanks the ping [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Michigan Biodiesel makers?
Hi again, I am a newbie to the Biodiesel and am about to try my first attempt to make some. I have new oil and about 10 gal of WVO. I am going to try some blender batches of the new oil first and then try my hand at the WVO. I was wondering if anyone in the Michigan area was doing any of this so I could contact them. I am finding out this is a very large list and just to clarify where Michigan is I am in the USA. I am sure most already know. I am really amazed at how many different areas this list covers. Thanks for the help Rick M Brownstown, Mi. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Michigan
Install a 2-tank Straight Renewable Oil (SRO) system. Then you have less biodiesel to make and lots of flexibility in winter. You can run biodiesel/SRO blend in winter in your SRO tank to thin it and compensate for less heat from engine. You can then start up and shut down on winter diesel in main tank even in cold. Michigan winter. You can also use a filter heater (the TDI already has a filter heating circuit so does not need one.) We have some components available now. May have demo farm near Detroit soon if all goes well. Also delivering a Mercedes to near Pt. Huron (Sarnia, ON) that will be set up with an SRO system. Next month or so. Ed B. www.biofuels.ca - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Economy of Scale-or-Smaller is Better...Maybe Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/