[biofuel] Re: Methanol is DEADLY!

2001-11-29 Thread Greg and April


- Original Message -
From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 22:49
Subject: Methanol is DEADLY! - was Re: [biofuel] mehtanol ethanol, etc.



Yes it is.


 Hm. No, Ed, I don't think Greg should have it his way. He's
 definitely underplaying the dangers of methanol. I don't think it's
 going to do anyone any good for D-I-Y biofuel neophytes to get the
 impression that methanol is nice, cosy stuff like the wood it's named
 for, only slightly less hazardous than the jolly old booze you buy in
 a supermarket next to the food shelves and drink with your dinner.

I may be missing something, but, I don't think that I ever said that
methanol was only slightly less hazardous than the jolly old booze you buy
in a supermarket , it is more hazardous.

Please understand I never ment to imply that meth was safe work with
unprotected, it is not.

What I was trying to say, and failed to is that methanol like other
chemicals (that have a poision potential), need to be treated properly and
with respect, and when done so are to useful to be neglected.

For this, I am sorry.


 It is one of the ingreaents that may be used, but, not by its self.

 It may indeed be used by itself, and was indeed the original
 denaturant: add 5% methanol.

Yes, you are right, I was looking at Compleate Denaturant and missed Special
Denaturant. I am sorry for missing it.

 We'd all love to know about an effective backyard
 methanol production technique. Using dino-source methanol spoils it
 for many of us - it means our beautiful clean biodiesel isn't quite
 as clean as we'd like, and using ethanol instead has its problems.
 D-I-Y bio-methanol would be excellent.

I think that I found a DIY bio methanol, but all I have is 2 1/2 pages with
just an overview, that I am stuck on.

Greg H.


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Re: [biofuel] Re: Methanol is DEADLY!

2001-11-29 Thread Jimmy Jones

I love Methanol.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Greg and April 
  To: biofuel 
  Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 11:14 AM
  Subject: [biofuel] Re: Methanol is DEADLY!



  - Original Message -
  From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 22:49
  Subject: Methanol is DEADLY! - was Re: [biofuel] mehtanol ethanol, etc.



  Yes it is.


   Hm. No, Ed, I don't think Greg should have it his way. He's
   definitely underplaying the dangers of methanol. I don't think it's
   going to do anyone any good for D-I-Y biofuel neophytes to get the
   impression that methanol is nice, cosy stuff like the wood it's named
   for, only slightly less hazardous than the jolly old booze you buy in
   a supermarket next to the food shelves and drink with your dinner.

  I may be missing something, but, I don't think that I ever said that
  methanol was only slightly less hazardous than the jolly old booze you buy
  in a supermarket , it is more hazardous.

  Please understand I never ment to imply that meth was safe work with
  unprotected, it is not.

  What I was trying to say, and failed to is that methanol like other
  chemicals (that have a poision potential), need to be treated properly and
  with respect, and when done so are to useful to be neglected.

  For this, I am sorry.


   It is one of the ingreaents that may be used, but, not by its self.
  
   It may indeed be used by itself, and was indeed the original
   denaturant: add 5% methanol.

  Yes, you are right, I was looking at Compleate Denaturant and missed Special
  Denaturant. I am sorry for missing it.

   We'd all love to know about an effective backyard
   methanol production technique. Using dino-source methanol spoils it
   for many of us - it means our beautiful clean biodiesel isn't quite
   as clean as we'd like, and using ethanol instead has its problems.
   D-I-Y bio-methanol would be excellent.
  
  I think that I found a DIY bio methanol, but all I have is 2 1/2 pages with
  just an overview, that I am stuck on.

  Greg H.


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Re: [biofuel] Re: Methanol is DEADLY!

2001-11-29 Thread Keith Addison

Jimmy Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I love Methanol.

Where should we send the flowers?

Keith Addison
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[biofuel] Re: Methanol is DEADLY!

2001-11-29 Thread Keith Addison

Hi Greg

Thanks for the response, seems we're all sorted now. (Except Jimmy 
Jones maybe!)

snip

  We'd all love to know about an effective backyard
  methanol production technique. Using dino-source methanol spoils it
  for many of us - it means our beautiful clean biodiesel isn't quite
  as clean as we'd like, and using ethanol instead has its problems.
  D-I-Y bio-methanol would be excellent.
 
I think that I found a DIY bio methanol, but all I have is 2 1/2 pages with
just an overview, that I am stuck on.

Try contacting HomePower? If it is indeed HomePower that published 
it. It takes high temeperatures and high pressures, eh?

Good luck!

Best

Keith Addison
Journey to Forever
Handmade Projects
Tokyo
http://journeytoforever.org/


Greg H.


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