Re: [biofuel] Re: Michigan Biodiesel makers?
Fred, It was a good idea lacking practicality. The small engine could not produce enough power to move the vehicle at normal speeds without the batteries being charged. The batteries would last only a few minutes normal driving, then it would drop to 20mph It would probably work with a 40 HP engine and electronic controls of course. -- Martin Klingensmith infoarchive.net nnytech.net On Sat, 2004-01-17 at 17:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > about the diesel-electric hybrids; > Maybe 15-20 years ago Mother Earth News had plans for converting a VW > Bug to Hybrid. As I remember it used a motor/generator from a Jet > engine (redilly available from GE, at the time, for about $900. an > array of batteries, and a small generator up front under the hood, > about 7-9 HP, one of the options was a lamborgini diesel. > For smooth starts it had a Chopper made from a reworked(to make a > rotary switch) generator from a '55 MG (lotsa luck) but I always > thought that could easily be replaced with solid state electronics. > does anyone else remember this? > > Best Regards > Fred > On Friday, Jan 16, 2004, at 20:11 US/Eastern, Erik Lane wrote: > > > check this one out - a hybrid dodge ram with a cummins > > diesel. > > > > http://www.evworld.com/view.cfm?section=communique&newsid=4581 > > > > kind of limited, but at least they're moving in the > > right direction. don't know of any cars, but i > > wouldn't be surprised if there were some in europe > > where diesel is much better regarded overall. > > > > erik > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: Michigan Biodiesel makers?
about the diesel-electric hybrids; Maybe 15-20 years ago Mother Earth News had plans for converting a VW Bug to Hybrid. As I remember it used a motor/generator from a Jet engine (redilly available from GE, at the time, for about $900. an array of batteries, and a small generator up front under the hood, about 7-9 HP, one of the options was a lamborgini diesel. For smooth starts it had a Chopper made from a reworked(to make a rotary switch) generator from a '55 MG (lotsa luck) but I always thought that could easily be replaced with solid state electronics. does anyone else remember this? Best Regards Fred On Friday, Jan 16, 2004, at 20:11 US/Eastern, Erik Lane wrote: > check this one out - a hybrid dodge ram with a cummins > diesel. > > http://www.evworld.com/view.cfm?section=communique&newsid=4581 > > kind of limited, but at least they're moving in the > right direction. don't know of any cars, but i > wouldn't be surprised if there were some in europe > where diesel is much better regarded overall. > > erik > --- fireonyx0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> That might be your problem right there. Think this >> is the second >> time Ive seen it. Methanol is wood alchohol. >> Menthol is a mint >> flavoring. I believe these 2 things are completely >> different! Maybe >> one of the veterans can correct me if im wrong here. >> >>> menthol >>> How much have you spent for the menthol per gal. >> >>> ping >> >> BTW, Hello list! >> Im new to all this, but it has caught my attention. >> Ive been lurking >> on the forum for about a week now. Im also from >> Michigan... but as I >> dont have a diesel (YET!) Bio-diesol is rather >> un-important to me. >> But Ethenol additive for my gas A few >> questions... >> >> On the journey to forever website it mentions >> Molecular Sieves >> (mostly by Ken Provost.) How effective are the >> sieves? Enough that >> combining the resulting ethenol and gasoline wont >> seperate or cause >> problems due to high water content? >> >> After the initial setup of the stand and destiller, >> how cost >> effective is creating your own anhydrous ethenol? >> And a breakdown of >> costs... such as it costs $X dollars of sugar or >> plant stock per >> gallon... etc? >> >> Also I havent been able to find any mention of the >> remaining "seed- >> cakes" from an oil press could be used as starting >> stock for >> ethenol? Can yeast process oil-type seeds? What >> part is the yeast >> processing? The oils, or the remaining seed? As I >> dont live on a >> farm, and have no interest in eating seed-cakes if I >> was to process >> my own oil for bio-diesel, Id want to be the most >> efficient I could >> be with purchasing supplies (from local farmers of >> course!). >> >> Also, are there any Diesel-Electric hybrids (car or >> truck) out yet? >> Or any plans on making such a machine? Maybe even a >> kit? (Wishful >> thinking mostly, but hey, its possible!) >> >> I know, lots o questions, and used search but the >> search feature or >> the archives dont go back that far. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Andrew Buis >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes > http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuels list archives: > http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > "If you tremble with indignation at every injustice then you are a comrade of mine." Che Guevara Same struggle same fight Human freedom, animal rights Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: Michigan Biodiesel makers?
check this one out - a hybrid dodge ram with a cummins diesel. http://www.evworld.com/view.cfm?section=communique&newsid=4581 kind of limited, but at least they're moving in the right direction. don't know of any cars, but i wouldn't be surprised if there were some in europe where diesel is much better regarded overall. erik --- fireonyx0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That might be your problem right there. Think this > is the second > time Ive seen it. Methanol is wood alchohol. > Menthol is a mint > flavoring. I believe these 2 things are completely > different! Maybe > one of the veterans can correct me if im wrong here. > > > menthol > > How much have you spent for the menthol per gal. > > > ping > > BTW, Hello list! > Im new to all this, but it has caught my attention. > Ive been lurking > on the forum for about a week now. Im also from > Michigan... but as I > dont have a diesel (YET!) Bio-diesol is rather > un-important to me. > But Ethenol additive for my gas A few > questions... > > On the journey to forever website it mentions > Molecular Sieves > (mostly by Ken Provost.) How effective are the > sieves? Enough that > combining the resulting ethenol and gasoline wont > seperate or cause > problems due to high water content? > > After the initial setup of the stand and destiller, > how cost > effective is creating your own anhydrous ethenol? > And a breakdown of > costs... such as it costs $X dollars of sugar or > plant stock per > gallon... etc? > > Also I havent been able to find any mention of the > remaining "seed- > cakes" from an oil press could be used as starting > stock for > ethenol? Can yeast process oil-type seeds? What > part is the yeast > processing? The oils, or the remaining seed? As I > dont live on a > farm, and have no interest in eating seed-cakes if I > was to process > my own oil for bio-diesel, Id want to be the most > efficient I could > be with purchasing supplies (from local farmers of > course!). > > Also, are there any Diesel-Electric hybrids (car or > truck) out yet? > Or any plans on making such a machine? Maybe even a > kit? (Wishful > thinking mostly, but hey, its possible!) > > I know, lots o questions, and used search but the > search feature or > the archives dont go back that far. > > Thanks, > > Andrew Buis > > > > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: Michigan Biodiesel makers?
That might be your problem right there. Think this is the second time Ive seen it. Methanol is wood alchohol. Menthol is a mint flavoring. I believe these 2 things are completely different! Maybe one of the veterans can correct me if im wrong here. > menthol > How much have you spent for the menthol per gal. > ping BTW, Hello list! Im new to all this, but it has caught my attention. Ive been lurking on the forum for about a week now. Im also from Michigan... but as I dont have a diesel (YET!) Bio-diesol is rather un-important to me. But Ethenol additive for my gas A few questions... On the journey to forever website it mentions Molecular Sieves (mostly by Ken Provost.) How effective are the sieves? Enough that combining the resulting ethenol and gasoline wont seperate or cause problems due to high water content? After the initial setup of the stand and destiller, how cost effective is creating your own anhydrous ethenol? And a breakdown of costs... such as it costs $X dollars of sugar or plant stock per gallon... etc? Also I havent been able to find any mention of the remaining "seed- cakes" from an oil press could be used as starting stock for ethenol? Can yeast process oil-type seeds? What part is the yeast processing? The oils, or the remaining seed? As I dont live on a farm, and have no interest in eating seed-cakes if I was to process my own oil for bio-diesel, Id want to be the most efficient I could be with purchasing supplies (from local farmers of course!). Also, are there any Diesel-Electric hybrids (car or truck) out yet? Or any plans on making such a machine? Maybe even a kit? (Wishful thinking mostly, but hey, its possible!) I know, lots o questions, and used search but the search feature or the archives dont go back that far. Thanks, Andrew Buis Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
