[biofuel] Re: Yahoo is considering limiting 'free' groups and adding 'paid' groups

2002-02-22 Thread Keith Addison

Hi all

Thanks for doing this.

I've done it, I found that I had to click on 'next page' after it stalled
out and it took forever to get to each page.

Greg H.


I did and breezed right through Keith.

Lucky you!

Hopefully your
troubles were due to a massive groudswell of yahoo
users filling out the survey and explaining that the
service has deteriorated and maybe they should think
about improving that before they get greedier.

Dana

It's a nice thought, Dana. But I'm finding since that Yahoo is very 
often difficult to work with now. Trying to work at the list website 
gives me stall after stall half the time, with the odd Oops! - this 
site/page/group is temporarily unavailable. Other times it's okay, 
more or less. The service has definitely deteriorated, in more ways 
than one.

Motie wrote:

I own a couple of groups also, and 4 Clubs on Yahoo, and subscribe to
many more of both. I got one notice about paying to have the ads
removed. I got no notice of this new news.

It was you who advised me of that. Here's this wondrous hi-tech 
Internet communications leading light, and you need grapevines and 
carrier pigeons to get messages from them.

Group owners are supposed to be automatically subscribed to a List
Owners Group. I can't access it right now, for some reason. Maybe
they received too many complaints?

Motie

I forgot to post a link to the Group owners(moderators) group.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eGroups-Moderator-News/

The last message posted is dated Jan 30, 2001.
I guess they aren't keeping up as well as they would like us to think?

Motie

I guess. They abandoned that as soon as they took it all over from 
eGroups a year ago. Why didn't they host a group for list owners? Run 
by them, rather than an independent effort, with some sort of 
presence there, so people got the idea someone somewhere may be 
listening. The NBB does something like that on their web board, it 
doesn't take much. Then they'd have got easy, free and direct 
feedback on how to tune the service, and probably wouldn't need to do 
dumb surveys like this one. Maybe they'd even have managed to keep 
the level of service up to scratch - or even (gasp) improved it.

It says the membership of that Group owners group was 916672 at the 
time. You'd think nearly a million clients would be worth some sort 
of minimal effort.

Anyway, we'll wait and see what happens (not that we have any 
choice). Don't bet your life savings on pleasant surprises. :-(

Best

Keith Addison
Journey to Forever
Handmade Projects
Osaka, Japan
http://journeytoforever.org/

 


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[biofuel] Re: Yahoo is considering limiting 'free' groups and adding 'paid' groups

2002-02-20 Thread motie_d

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thankyou Joe. No big surprise, I've rather been expecting it. I own 
 two lists and subscribe to many more, but have heard nothing of 
this 
 from Yahoo, nor anyone, until you. Very odd! Same with their 
decision 
 to wreck the joint with ads - which you can have removed if you pay 
a 
 fee (the precursor to this current move I guess). What was it, $10 
a 
 month? More than a million groups? Tempt them all in with free 
 services, then close the door.
I own a couple of groups also, and 4 Clubs on Yahoo, and subscribe to 
many more of both. I got one notice about paying to have the ads 
removed. I got no notice of this new news.

 
 I can't get through to that page now, but I'll certainly try again 
later.
I tried too, and the poll is closed or expired.
 
Group owners are supposed to be automatically subscribed to a List 
Owners Group. I can't access it right now, for some reason. Maybe 
they received too many complaints?

Motie


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