Hi all Thanks for doing this.
>I've done it, I found that I had to click on 'next page' after it stalled >out and it took forever to get to each page. > >Greg H. > >I did and breezed right through Keith. Lucky you! >Hopefully your >troubles were due to a massive groudswell of yahoo >users filling out the survey and explaining that the >service has deteriorated and maybe they should think >about improving that before they get greedier. > >Dana It's a nice thought, Dana. But I'm finding since that Yahoo is very often difficult to work with now. Trying to work at the list website gives me stall after stall half the time, with the odd "Oops!" - this site/page/group is temporarily unavailable. Other times it's okay, more or less. The service has definitely deteriorated, in more ways than one. Motie wrote: >I own a couple of groups also, and 4 Clubs on Yahoo, and subscribe to >many more of both. I got one notice about paying to have the ads >removed. I got no notice of this new news. It was you who advised me of that. Here's this wondrous hi-tech Internet communications leading light, and you need grapevines and carrier pigeons to get messages from them. >Group owners are supposed to be automatically subscribed to a List >Owners Group. I can't access it right now, for some reason. Maybe >they received too many complaints? > >Motie >I forgot to post a link to the Group owners(moderators) group. >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eGroups-Moderator-News/ > >The last message posted is dated Jan 30, 2001. >I guess they aren't keeping up as well as they would like us to think? > >Motie I guess. They abandoned that as soon as they took it all over from eGroups a year ago. Why didn't they host a group for list owners? Run by them, rather than an independent effort, with some sort of presence there, so people got the idea someone somewhere may be listening. The NBB does something like that on their web board, it doesn't take much. Then they'd have got easy, free and direct feedback on how to tune the service, and probably wouldn't need to do dumb surveys like this one. Maybe they'd even have managed to keep the level of service up to scratch - or even (gasp) improved it. It says the membership of that Group owners group was 916672 at the time. You'd think nearly a million clients would be worth some sort of minimal effort. Anyway, we'll wait and see what happens (not that we have any choice). Don't bet your life savings on pleasant surprises. :-( Best Keith Addison Journey to Forever Handmade Projects Osaka, Japan http://journeytoforever.org/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/