[biofuel] engine problem
When you lubricate the bearings before torque time,use only something that will very quickly desolve[melt] as your oil pump will be clogged by lubricants such as wheel bearing grease;a real NO-NO. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] engine problem
Thanks for the info, Malone. My guess is this toyota engine is more than 20 years old. I have had an experience with it once. One time it just stopped and I saw that radiator developed a leak and dried up. I refilled ever so often during that trip and and I was able to get home. I would say that this one of those sturdy old engines. Regards, chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 9:14 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] engine problem Some engines are poorly designed such as the 4 banger in chrysler neons which has 2 exhaust ports side-by-side.Chrysler tells people to use only CHRYSLER ANTI-FREEZE[it has a LOT of sealant in each gallon].Newer engines will not stand much overheating.Some cars[like buick]built in the 50's could get so hot that their exhaust manifolds and much of the head would be transparent without damage or have 3 gallons of water in with the oil,churned to buttermilk by the crank after driving home without stoping running 115 mph.Replaced aluminum timing cover ,filter and oil and drove it 10 more years.The bearings and other parts in OLD buicks and some cads were indestructible.Check into using a COPPER head gasket for insurance. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] engine problem
Thanks, everyone! Martin, I bought the thing solely to be a project and test biodiesel in. The temperature gauage was broken when I bought it so I couldn't tell if it was overheating. I check up on the water everytime. I just did not bother to replace the thing so now I'm paying the price. Anyway, it has been one truly educational problem. :) Regards, chris -Original Message- From: Martin Klingensmith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 7:58 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] engine problem Christopher wrote: Hi Martin: What could be an indication that water has indeed damaged the bearings? Will that still be repairable? Thanks a lot. Regards, chris Christopher, If you check the main bearings and the caps are copper colored, they are worn and should be replaced. New bearings are babbit [a white metal] on top of copper, on top of the steel shell. You can check them by removing the oil pan and onbolting one of the bearing caps. Be careful of getting any dirt at all in there. If you do replace them, clean the crank well and apply a sticky assembly lubricant liberally. Don't be conservative ;) Bearings rarely actually fail in a small engine so you likely don't have a problem. When a head gasket fails it is indicated by a loss of power and you may have actually seen gases escaping between the head and block. When people don't pay attention to their gauges and this failure occurs, it can result in an overheated engine with a warped head, cracked block, or other expensive failure. -- -- Martin Klingensmith http://infoarchive.net/ http://nnytech.net/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] engine problem
Christopher wrote: Hi Martin: What could be an indication that water has indeed damaged the bearings? Will that still be repairable? Thanks a lot. Regards, chris Christopher, If you check the main bearings and the caps are copper colored, they are worn and should be replaced. New bearings are babbit [a white metal] on top of copper, on top of the steel shell. You can check them by removing the oil pan and onbolting one of the bearing caps. Be careful of getting any dirt at all in there. If you do replace them, clean the crank well and apply a sticky assembly lubricant liberally. Don't be conservative ;) Bearings rarely actually fail in a small engine so you likely don't have a problem. When a head gasket fails it is indicated by a loss of power and you may have actually seen gases escaping between the head and block. When people don't pay attention to their gauges and this failure occurs, it can result in an overheated engine with a warped head, cracked block, or other expensive failure. -- -- Martin Klingensmith http://infoarchive.net/ http://nnytech.net/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] engine problem
Thats your head gasket! if you don't know what your doing have someone do it for you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] engine problem
Chris, Sounds like blown head gasket - if so it should not be too serious, just take the head off replace with a new head gasket. You might want to take the opportunity to reseat the valves while the head is off. Make sure you follow the recommended tightening sequence torque settings for the head bolts. More seriously you might have a cracked block - not much you can do there except scrap it. Hope that helps Malcolm -Original Message- From: Christopher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 July 2004 02:28 To: Biofuel Subject: [biofuel] engine problem * Hi Guys: This is a question to all you mechanic types out there. I have an engine just like Terry McMcGleish's. http://www.eline2000.com/eline/articles/biogen/biogenset.htm It died on me and when I looked to see what is the matter, I found that the oil floated into the radiator and water sank into the oil sump. What could be the cause of this problem? I have decided that I will fix(or ruin)the engine myself. Could anyone help me out and point me to the right direction? Thank you so much. Regards, [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] engine problem
blown head gasket? Michael Patrick Lendzian Information Technology Manager Skidaway Institute of Oceanography Savannah, GA 31411 912.598.2330 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] engine problem
Chris, Sounds like blown head gasket - if so it should not be too serious, just take the head off replace with a new head gasket. You might want to take the opportunity to reseat the valves while the head is off. Make sure you follow the recommended tightening sequence torque settings for the head bolts. More seriously you might have a cracked block - not much you can do there except scrap it. Hope that helps Malcolm Hopefully it hasn't overheated or ruined any bearings due to the water. -- Martin Klingensmith http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] engine problem
I did consider that afterwards Martin - fingers crossed it hasn't Malcolm -Original Message- From: Martin Klingensmith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 July 2004 17:20 To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [biofuel] engine problem Chris, Sounds like blown head gasket - if so it should not be too serious, just take the head off replace with a new head gasket. You might want to take the opportunity to reseat the valves while the head is off. Make sure you follow the recommended tightening sequence torque settings for the head bolts. More seriously you might have a cracked block - not much you can do there except scrap it. Hope that helps Malcolm Hopefully it hasn't overheated or ruined any bearings due to the water. -- Martin Klingensmith http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] engine problem
Some engines are poorly designed such as the 4 banger in chrysler neons which has 2 exhaust ports side-by-side.Chrysler tells people to use only CHRYSLER ANTI-FREEZE[it has a LOT of sealant in each gallon].Newer engines will not stand much overheating.Some cars[like buick]built in the 50's could get so hot that their exhaust manifolds and much of the head would be transparent without damage or have 3 gallons of water in with the oil,churned to buttermilk by the crank after driving home without stoping running 115 mph.Replaced aluminum timing cover ,filter and oil and drove it 10 more years.The bearings and other parts in OLD buicks and some cads were indestructible.Check into using a COPPER head gasket for insurance. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] engine problem
Hi Guys: This is a question to all you mechanic types out there. I have an engine just like Terry McMcGleish's. http://www.eline2000.com/eline/articles/biogen/biogenset.htm It died on me and when I looked to see what is the matter, I found that the oil floated into the radiator and water sank into the oil sump. What could be the cause of this problem? I have decided that I will fix(or ruin)the engine myself. Could anyone help me out and point me to the right direction? Thank you so much. Regards, Chris Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] engine problem
Thanks a lot Peggy, Malcom. The cylinder head isn't cracked or at least it don't seem like it. I've always wanted to get my hands on an engine so I think I'll go on right ahead. I don't mind getting my hands dirty. Thanks again. Regards, Chris -Original Message- From: malcolm maclure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 4:57 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [biofuel] engine problem Chris, Sounds like blown head gasket - if so it should not be too serious, just take the head off replace with a new head gasket. You might want to take the opportunity to reseat the valves while the head is off. Make sure you follow the recommended tightening sequence torque settings for the head bolts. More seriously you might have a cracked block - not much you can do there except scrap it. Hope that helps Malcolm -Original Message- From: Christopher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 July 2004 02:28 To: Biofuel Subject: [biofuel] engine problem * Hi Guys: This is a question to all you mechanic types out there. I have an engine just like Terry McMcGleish's. http://www.eline2000.com/eline/articles/biogen/biogenset.htm It died on me and when I looked to see what is the matter, I found that the oil floated into the radiator and water sank into the oil sump. What could be the cause of this problem? I have decided that I will fix(or ruin)the engine myself. Could anyone help me out and point me to the right direction? Thank you so much. Regards, [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] engine problem
Hi Martin: What could be an indication that water has indeed damaged the bearings? Will that still be repairable? Thanks a lot. Regards, chris -Original Message- From: Martin Klingensmith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 8:20 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [biofuel] engine problem Chris, Sounds like blown head gasket - if so it should not be too serious, just take the head off replace with a new head gasket. You might want to take the opportunity to reseat the valves while the head is off. Make sure you follow the recommended tightening sequence torque settings for the head bolts. More seriously you might have a cracked block - not much you can do there except scrap it. Hope that helps Malcolm Hopefully it hasn't overheated or ruined any bearings due to the water. -- Martin Klingensmith http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] engine problem
Thanks Michael. You guys are really great. Regards, chris -Original Message- From: Michael Lendzian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 5:52 AM To: Biofuel Subject: Re: [biofuel] engine problem blown head gasket? Michael Patrick Lendzian Information Technology Manager Skidaway Institute of Oceanography Savannah, GA 31411 912.598.2330 Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Engine problem
Can anybody offer advise? When starting my (already warm) car a few days ago, the engine ran, the revs climbed and decended a couple of times of their own accord, probably +/- 300rpm, then it stopped (within about 10 secs of starting). It hasn't run since! Fuel is getting to the pump but not being pumped out to the injectors. The car is a Rover 600 turbodiesel that has a fly by wire injection pump. My thoughts are:- A faulty ECU. Or could it be failed seals within the pump due to BioD Or a faulty stop valve, although it does click with 12v Does any body have any experience of a problem like this? Or know where I could get advice or the pump looked at? Or what to look for myself? I am in the Birmingham/Coventry area (England) Thanks in advance Adrian __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- FREE COLLEGE MONEY CLICK HERE to search 600,000 scholarships! http://us.click.yahoo.com/Pv4pGD/4m7CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
