Re: [biofuel] veggie conversion on Jetta, whats involved?
the '98 jetta works wonderfully well with biodiesel. Also with veggie oil conversions, of the 2 tank heated variety. never use cold oil. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: http://www.green-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 12:32 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] veggie conversion on Jetta, whats involved? Hi Carl I recently puchased a 98 VW Jetta diesel and I understand some of the seals and fuel lines may not last with B100. I'm sure that's not true. All European cars made since the early 90s are biodiesel-resistant. If this is not correct and people are running these engines without any long term problems on B100, I'm all ears. My first thought though is to do a grease conversion and I could use feedback on that. TDI? http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_TDI.html The TDI-SVO controversy I wonder about things like where can I squeeze in a tank? What the best way to pre-heat the oil is, etc. I also have a Mitsubishi Fuso commercial truck that I want to convert. I'd heard the same issues with deteriation to seals being an issue to some extent and thought straight oil conversion would be easier for that vehicle than replacing crucial seals with synthetic ones. Carl What year is it? I don't think any vehicles have used rubber seals since the mid-90s at the latest. Check with Mitsubishi, but I'm sure you can use biodiesel, just put it in and go. Best Keith Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Share the magic of Harry Potter with Yahoo! Messenger http://us.click.yahoo.com/4Q_cgB/JmBFAA/46VHAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] veggie conversion on Jetta, whats involved?
Hi all My first message to the bio fuels group, so I hope my ettiquette is OK. I have a 1982 Peugeot 504 diesel which has had the seals replaced recently with modern materials. We had a switch to low sulphur diesel which resulted in claims for compensation which ended up as free rebuilds of the injector pump! I have a choice - make bio diesel (involves making a processing plant outside car) or - use staight oil with double tank and heat exchanger (works inside the car). It seem a bit unnecessary to preheat the tank with all the costs, risks of long piperuns and leaks. Why not just make an efficient heat exchanger to bring the oil up to engine coolant temperature in front of the firewall. It means you can have a large tank since the whole volume doesn't have to be preheated before you change to straight oil. My question - has anyone converted a Peugeot 504? to what system? and how has it been in terms of problems and reliability? Any other comments welcome. Richard Swinton Steve Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15/11/2002 12:08 Please respond to biofuel To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com cc: Subject:Re: [biofuel] veggie conversion on Jetta, whats involved? the '98 jetta works wonderfully well with biodiesel. Also with veggie oil conversions, of the 2 tank heated variety. never use cold oil. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: http://www.green-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 12:32 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] veggie conversion on Jetta, whats involved? Hi Carl I recently puchased a 98 VW Jetta diesel and I understand some of the seals and fuel lines may not last with B100. I'm sure that's not true. All European cars made since the early 90s are biodiesel-resistant. If this is not correct and people are running these engines without any long term problems on B100, I'm all ears. My first thought though is to do a grease conversion and I could use feedback on that. TDI? http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_TDI.html The TDI-SVO controversy I wonder about things like where can I squeeze in a tank? What the best way to pre-heat the oil is, etc. I also have a Mitsubishi Fuso commercial truck that I want to convert. I'd heard the same issues with deteriation to seals being an issue to some extent and thought straight oil conversion would be easier for that vehicle than replacing crucial seals with synthetic ones. Carl What year is it? I don't think any vehicles have used rubber seals since the mid-90s at the latest. Check with Mitsubishi, but I'm sure you can use biodiesel, just put it in and go. Best Keith Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient or received it in error, please delete the message and notify sender. Views expressed are those of the individual sender and are not necessarily the views of their organisation. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] veggie conversion on Jetta, whats involved?
Two tank system with heating at the engine bay (and return fuel...heated...back to the tank) This is the way our system was designed. Also, we are pleased to advise that we have a dealer in your country, Mr. Steven Hobbs. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mr. Hobbs grows Canola, presses oil, makes biodiesel, and sells our system. He will also be selling our G3 Diesel Fuel Lubricity Additive, a Canola oil derivative, proven effective at treat rates as low as 0.1% to restore lubricity to low sulphur diesel, and with observed engine wear particle reductions of up to 40%, at 1% treat rate. (in testing done by the University of Saskatchewan - the link is on our web site) See: http://www.biofuels.ca Edward Beggs Neoteric Biofuels Inc. BC, Canada On Thursday, November 14, 2002, at 05:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all My first message to the bio fuels group, so I hope my ettiquette is OK. I have a 1982 Peugeot 504 diesel which has had the seals replaced recently with modern materials. We had a switch to low sulphur diesel which resulted in claims for compensation which ended up as free rebuilds of the injector pump! I have a choice - make bio diesel (involves making a processing plant outside car) or - use staight oil with double tank and heat exchanger (works inside the car). It seem a bit unnecessary to preheat the tank with all the costs, risks of long piperuns and leaks. Why not just make an efficient heat exchanger to bring the oil up to engine coolant temperature in front of the firewall. It means you can have a large tank since the whole volume doesn't have to be preheated before you change to straight oil. My question - has anyone converted a Peugeot 504? to what system? and how has it been in terms of problems and reliability? Any other comments welcome. Richard Swinton Steve Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15/11/2002 12:08 Please respond to biofuel To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com cc: Subject:Re: [biofuel] veggie conversion on Jetta, whats involved? the '98 jetta works wonderfully well with biodiesel. Also with veggie oil conversions, of the 2 tank heated variety. never use cold oil. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: http://www.green-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 12:32 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] veggie conversion on Jetta, whats involved? Hi Carl I recently puchased a 98 VW Jetta diesel and I understand some of the seals and fuel lines may not last with B100. I'm sure that's not true. All European cars made since the early 90s are biodiesel-resistant. If this is not correct and people are running these engines without any long term problems on B100, I'm all ears. My first thought though is to do a grease conversion and I could use feedback on that. TDI? http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_TDI.html The TDI-SVO controversy I wonder about things like where can I squeeze in a tank? What the best way to pre-heat the oil is, etc. I also have a Mitsubishi Fuso commercial truck that I want to convert. I'd heard the same issues with deteriation to seals being an issue to some extent and thought straight oil conversion would be easier for that vehicle than replacing crucial seals with synthetic ones. Carl What year is it? I don't think any vehicles have used rubber seals since the mid-90s at the latest. Check with Mitsubishi, but I'm sure you can use biodiesel, just put it in and go. Best Keith Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient or received it in error, please delete the message and notify sender. Views expressed are those of the individual sender and are not necessarily the views of their organisation
[biofuel] veggie conversion on Jetta, whats involved?
I recently puchased a 98 VW Jetta diesel and I understand some of the seals and fuel lines may not last with B100. If this is not correct and people are running these engines without any long term problems on B100, I'm all ears. My first thought though is to do a grease conversion and I could use feedback on that. I wonder about things like where can I squeeze in a tank? What the best way to pre-heat the oil is, etc. I also have a Mitsubishi Fuso commercial truck that I want to convert. I'd heard the same issues with deteriation to seals being an issue to some extent and thought straight oil conversion would be easier for that vehicle than replacing crucial seals with synthetic ones. Carl Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Share the magic of Harry Potter with Yahoo! Messenger http://us.click.yahoo.com/4Q_cgB/JmBFAA/46VHAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] veggie conversion on Jetta, whats involved?
Hi Carl I recently puchased a 98 VW Jetta diesel and I understand some of the seals and fuel lines may not last with B100. I'm sure that's not true. All European cars made since the early 90s are biodiesel-resistant. If this is not correct and people are running these engines without any long term problems on B100, I'm all ears. My first thought though is to do a grease conversion and I could use feedback on that. TDI? http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_TDI.html The TDI-SVO controversy I wonder about things like where can I squeeze in a tank? What the best way to pre-heat the oil is, etc. I also have a Mitsubishi Fuso commercial truck that I want to convert. I'd heard the same issues with deteriation to seals being an issue to some extent and thought straight oil conversion would be easier for that vehicle than replacing crucial seals with synthetic ones. Carl What year is it? I don't think any vehicles have used rubber seals since the mid-90s at the latest. Check with Mitsubishi, but I'm sure you can use biodiesel, just put it in and go. Best Keith Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Share the magic of Harry Potter with Yahoo! Messenger http://us.click.yahoo.com/4Q_cgB/JmBFAA/46VHAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
