Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: Engine makers, refiners can meet US diesel rule - EPA
Harry, fascinating stuff. Where did you get your Australian info from? I would love to see the reports. I have suggested to quite a few farmers that the introduction od LSD ULSD is going to give us farmers a bit of trouble based on every one elses woes, but no-one really thinks it will be a problem. Steven gjkimlin wrote: Although they don't have to yet, some reports have it that Queensland refineries are producing ultra low sulphur diesel. The two problems have been damage to pump seals and a loss of lubricity. So much so that adding bio gives a good 10% drop in fuel usage with apparent increases in speed despite lower energy content. Harry --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/16585/story.htm Planet Ark : Engine makers, refiners can meet US diesel rule - EPA USA: June 26, 2002 WASHINGTON - U.S. diesel engine manufacturers and petroleum refiners should have no problem in meeting new federal standards to reduce the amount of sulfur in diesel fuel, according to a new Environmental Protection Agency report. The report was a blow to the U.S. oil industry, which complained it would have a tough time complying with the EPA's goal of cutting the sulfur level in diesel fuel by 97 percent to just 15 parts per million (ppm). Refiners must begin producing the cleaner diesel by 2006. Large trucks, buses and other heavy duty vehicles must be on the market by 2007 with engines that can process the fuel. The EPA's report, which was released on Friday and is now being reviewed by an advisory panel this week, found that both industries are making significant progress in meeting the lower sulfur requirements. Some refiners are ahead of schedule and will be capable of producing the diesel fuel with the low sulfur levels as early as next year, it said. We are very encouraged by the actions some refiners have already taken in terms of announcing specific plan for low sulfur diesel fuel production, the EPA said. Nonetheless, small refiners will be given up to four additional years to meet the new standards. In addition, refiners that supply fuel to western states and Alaska will have until 2008 to produce the low-sulfur fuel. Separately, the EPA said engine makers plan to use technology that already exists to build engines with special filters that could process the cleaner diesel fuel. Although it is still early in the process, every major engine manufacturer that we visited told us that they expect to have emission-compliant products in 2007, EPA said. The oil industry and other business groups had sued the EPA in an effort to block the sulfur guidelines. Oil companies said the EPA requirements would cause them to close refiners instead of making expensive modifications to their facilities, resulting in fuel supply shortages and higher diesel prices. However, a federal court ruled last month in favor of the agency's rule making, saying technology was available to make diesel fuel that emitted fewer sulfur emissions. Story by Tom Doggett REUTERS NEWS SERVICE Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: Engine makers, refiners can meet US diesel rule - EPA
Steven wrote: Harry, fascinating stuff. Where did you get your Australian info from? I would love to see the reports. I have suggested to quite a few farmers that the introduction od LSD ULSD is going to give us farmers a bit of trouble based on every one elses woes, but no-one really thinks it will be a problem. Steven Probably what will happen in USA will be the same as Europe. Early adopters of ULSD like Canada and Sweden did indeed have problems with loss of lubricity and with loss of rubber vulcanising properties. These were solved by introducing lubricity additives and by auto makers changing the type of rubber used in fuel systems. Only France is different (as usual!) where they add 5% bio to ULSD instead of synthetic lubricity restoring additive. I believe the poor lubricity is not due to loss of sulphur so much as the hydroprocessing used to remove it, which alters some of the other compounds responsible for lube properties. David T. Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Re: Engine makers, refiners can meet US diesel rule - EPA
Although they don't have to yet, some reports have it that Queensland refineries are producing ultra low sulphur diesel. The two problems have been damage to pump seals and a loss of lubricity. So much so that adding bio gives a good 10% drop in fuel usage with apparent increases in speed despite lower energy content. Harry --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/16585/story.htm Planet Ark : Engine makers, refiners can meet US diesel rule - EPA USA: June 26, 2002 WASHINGTON - U.S. diesel engine manufacturers and petroleum refiners should have no problem in meeting new federal standards to reduce the amount of sulfur in diesel fuel, according to a new Environmental Protection Agency report. The report was a blow to the U.S. oil industry, which complained it would have a tough time complying with the EPA's goal of cutting the sulfur level in diesel fuel by 97 percent to just 15 parts per million (ppm). Refiners must begin producing the cleaner diesel by 2006. Large trucks, buses and other heavy duty vehicles must be on the market by 2007 with engines that can process the fuel. The EPA's report, which was released on Friday and is now being reviewed by an advisory panel this week, found that both industries are making significant progress in meeting the lower sulfur requirements. Some refiners are ahead of schedule and will be capable of producing the diesel fuel with the low sulfur levels as early as next year, it said. We are very encouraged by the actions some refiners have already taken in terms of announcing specific plan for low sulfur diesel fuel production, the EPA said. Nonetheless, small refiners will be given up to four additional years to meet the new standards. In addition, refiners that supply fuel to western states and Alaska will have until 2008 to produce the low-sulfur fuel. Separately, the EPA said engine makers plan to use technology that already exists to build engines with special filters that could process the cleaner diesel fuel. Although it is still early in the process, every major engine manufacturer that we visited told us that they expect to have emission-compliant products in 2007, EPA said. The oil industry and other business groups had sued the EPA in an effort to block the sulfur guidelines. Oil companies said the EPA requirements would cause them to close refiners instead of making expensive modifications to their facilities, resulting in fuel supply shortages and higher diesel prices. However, a federal court ruled last month in favor of the agency's rule making, saying technology was available to make diesel fuel that emitted fewer sulfur emissions. Story by Tom Doggett REUTERS NEWS SERVICE Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/