Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: Engine makers, refiners can meet US diesel rule - EPA

2002-07-02 Thread Steven Hobbs

Harry, fascinating stuff. Where did you get your Australian info from? I
would love to see the reports. I have suggested to quite a few farmers that
the introduction od LSD  ULSD is going to give us farmers a bit of trouble
based on every one elses woes, but no-one really thinks it will be a problem.

Steven

gjkimlin wrote:

 Although they don't have to yet, some reports have it that Queensland
 refineries are producing ultra low sulphur diesel. The two problems
 have been damage to pump seals and a loss of lubricity. So much so
 that adding bio gives a good 10% drop in fuel usage with apparent
 increases in speed despite lower energy content.
 Harry
 --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/16585/story.htm
  Planet Ark :
  Engine makers, refiners can meet US diesel rule - EPA
 
  USA: June 26, 2002
 
  WASHINGTON - U.S. diesel engine manufacturers and petroleum
 refiners
  should have no problem in meeting new federal standards to reduce
 the
  amount of sulfur in diesel fuel, according to a new Environmental
  Protection Agency report.
 
  The report was a blow to the U.S. oil industry, which complained it
  would have a tough time complying with the EPA's goal of cutting
 the
  sulfur level in diesel fuel by 97 percent to just 15 parts per
  million (ppm).
 
  Refiners must begin producing the cleaner diesel by 2006. Large
  trucks, buses and other heavy duty vehicles must be on the market
 by
  2007 with engines that can process the fuel.
 
  The EPA's report, which was released on Friday and is now being
  reviewed by an advisory panel this week, found that both industries
  are making significant progress in meeting the lower sulfur
  requirements.
 
  Some refiners are ahead of schedule and will be capable of
 producing
  the diesel fuel with the low sulfur levels as early as next year,
 it
  said.
 
  We are very encouraged by the actions some refiners have already
  taken in terms of announcing specific plan for low sulfur diesel
 fuel
  production, the EPA said.
 
  Nonetheless, small refiners will be given up to four additional
 years
  to meet the new standards.
 
  In addition, refiners that supply fuel to western states and Alaska
  will have until 2008 to produce the low-sulfur fuel.
 
  Separately, the EPA said engine makers plan to use technology that
  already exists to build engines with special filters that could
  process the cleaner diesel fuel.
 
  Although it is still early in the process, every major engine
  manufacturer that we visited told us that they expect to have
  emission-compliant products in 2007, EPA said.
 
  The oil industry and other business groups had sued the EPA in an
  effort to block the sulfur guidelines.
 
  Oil companies said the EPA requirements would cause them to close
  refiners instead of making expensive modifications to their
  facilities, resulting in fuel supply shortages and higher diesel
  prices.
 
  However, a federal court ruled last month in favor of the agency's
  rule making, saying technology was available to make diesel fuel
 that
  emitted fewer sulfur emissions.
 
  Story by Tom Doggett
 
  REUTERS NEWS SERVICE

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Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: Engine makers, refiners can meet US diesel rule - EPA

2002-07-02 Thread David Teal

Steven wrote:
Harry, fascinating stuff. Where did you get your Australian info from? I
would love to see the reports. I have suggested to quite a few farmers that
the introduction od LSD  ULSD is going to give us farmers a bit of trouble
based on every one elses woes, but no-one really thinks it will be a
problem.

Steven

Probably what will happen in USA will be the same as Europe.  Early adopters
of ULSD like Canada and Sweden did indeed have problems with loss of
lubricity and with loss of rubber vulcanising properties.  These were solved
by introducing lubricity additives and by auto makers changing the type of
rubber used in fuel systems.  Only France is different (as usual!) where
they add 5% bio to ULSD instead of synthetic lubricity restoring additive.
I believe the poor lubricity is not due to loss of sulphur so much as the
hydroprocessing used to remove it, which alters some of the other compounds
responsible for lube properties.

David T.




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[biofuels-biz] Re: Engine makers, refiners can meet US diesel rule - EPA

2002-07-01 Thread gjkimlin

Although they don't have to yet, some reports have it that Queensland 
refineries are producing ultra low sulphur diesel. The two problems 
have been damage to pump seals and a loss of lubricity. So much so 
that adding bio gives a good 10% drop in fuel usage with apparent 
increases in speed despite lower energy content.
Harry
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/16585/story.htm
 Planet Ark :
 Engine makers, refiners can meet US diesel rule - EPA
 
 USA: June 26, 2002
 
 WASHINGTON - U.S. diesel engine manufacturers and petroleum 
refiners 
 should have no problem in meeting new federal standards to reduce 
the 
 amount of sulfur in diesel fuel, according to a new Environmental 
 Protection Agency report.
 
 The report was a blow to the U.S. oil industry, which complained it 
 would have a tough time complying with the EPA's goal of cutting 
the 
 sulfur level in diesel fuel by 97 percent to just 15 parts per 
 million (ppm).
 
 Refiners must begin producing the cleaner diesel by 2006. Large 
 trucks, buses and other heavy duty vehicles must be on the market 
by 
 2007 with engines that can process the fuel.
 
 The EPA's report, which was released on Friday and is now being 
 reviewed by an advisory panel this week, found that both industries 
 are making significant progress in meeting the lower sulfur 
 requirements.
 
 Some refiners are ahead of schedule and will be capable of 
producing 
 the diesel fuel with the low sulfur levels as early as next year, 
it 
 said.
 
 We are very encouraged by the actions some refiners have already 
 taken in terms of announcing specific plan for low sulfur diesel 
fuel 
 production, the EPA said.
 
 Nonetheless, small refiners will be given up to four additional 
years 
 to meet the new standards.
 
 In addition, refiners that supply fuel to western states and Alaska 
 will have until 2008 to produce the low-sulfur fuel.
 
 Separately, the EPA said engine makers plan to use technology that 
 already exists to build engines with special filters that could 
 process the cleaner diesel fuel.
 
 Although it is still early in the process, every major engine 
 manufacturer that we visited told us that they expect to have 
 emission-compliant products in 2007, EPA said.
 
 The oil industry and other business groups had sued the EPA in an 
 effort to block the sulfur guidelines.
 
 Oil companies said the EPA requirements would cause them to close 
 refiners instead of making expensive modifications to their 
 facilities, resulting in fuel supply shortages and higher diesel 
 prices.
 
 However, a federal court ruled last month in favor of the agency's 
 rule making, saying technology was available to make diesel fuel 
that 
 emitted fewer sulfur emissions.
 
 Story by Tom Doggett
 
 REUTERS NEWS SERVICE


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