RE: [Biofuel] ethanol for 2 cycle engines

2005-01-05 Thread Arttu Aula


rubber parts and draw water to itself from the air.

Manufacturers have taken the prior into consideration with oxygenated fuels 
(gasohol) becoming more widely used.  Your owners manual should say 
something about it.  They might list a maximum ethanol content (about 10%), 
but i think it has more to do with water accumulating in the fuel in 
storage.  If the rubber can stand ethanol, it doesn't matter what the ratio 
is.


To avoid problems from the latter, make sure to use fresh fuel.  For 
storage, empty the fuel system completely and oil the metal parts(the tank, 
mainly), or fill it with regular gasoline with a bit of stabilizer.


2-strokes seem to be a little more sensitive to lean fuel-air mixtures, so 
they require richer jetting with ethanol.  But if you're using stock 
carburetor settings, leave them in, they're set rich just be safe, and the 
higher octane rating will tolerate leaner jetting without knocking.  If you 
really know what you're doing, you could advance the timing a bit to take 
advantage of the higher octane rating.


I have never heard of any 2-stroke oils being incompatible with ethanol, use 
them at a normal fuel-oil ratio or leave your oil injection at stock 
settings.  Some use ethanol in 2-stroke go-carts, they might know more about 
the subject.


-Arttu


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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 16:59:23 +0200

Dear Sirs,

Can anybody tell me what kind of fuel mixture (ethanol based) can be used 
to

fuel 2-cycle engine and what modifications had to be made?

Best regards and thank you in advance,
Octavian Andronic
www.ariascooters.com

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RE: [Biofuel] ethanol for 2 cycle engines

2005-01-05 Thread Peggy

Hello Arttu,

Thank you for this information.

Peggy

Subject: RE: [Biofuel] ethanol for 2 cycle engines

Ethanol fuel is known to do 2 things in engines not designed for it:
corrode 
rubber parts and draw water to itself from the air.

Manufacturers have taken the prior into consideration with oxygenated
fuels 
(gasohol) becoming more widely used.  Your owners manual should say 
something about it.  They might list a maximum ethanol content (about
10%), 
but i think it has more to do with water accumulating in the fuel in 
storage.  If the rubber can stand ethanol, it doesn't matter what the
ratio 
is.

To avoid problems from the latter, make sure to use fresh fuel.  For 
storage, empty the fuel system completely and oil the metal parts(the
tank, 
mainly), or fill it with regular gasoline with a bit of stabilizer.

2-strokes seem to be a little more sensitive to lean fuel-air mixtures,
so 
they require richer jetting with ethanol.  But if you're using stock 
carburetor settings, leave them in, they're set rich just be safe, and
the 
higher octane rating will tolerate leaner jetting without knocking.  If
you 
really know what you're doing, you could advance the timing a bit to
take 
advantage of the higher octane rating.

I have never heard of any 2-stroke oils being incompatible with ethanol,
use 
them at a normal fuel-oil ratio or leave your oil injection at stock 
settings.  Some use ethanol in 2-stroke go-carts, they might know more
about 
the subject.

-Arttu

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Subject: [Biofuel] ethanol for 2 cycle engines
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 16:59:23 +0200

Dear Sirs,

Can anybody tell me what kind of fuel mixture (ethanol based) can be
used 
to
fuel 2-cycle engine and what modifications had to be made?

Best regards and thank you in advance,
Octavian Andronic
www.ariascooters.com

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Re: [Biofuel] ethanol for 2 cycle engines

2005-01-03 Thread Legal Eagle



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Dear Sirs,

Can anybody tell me what kind of fuel mixture (ethanol based) can be used 
to

fuel 2-cycle engine and what modifications had to be made?


Lots of ethanol info here:
http://journeytoforever.org/ethanol.html
Luc



Best regards and thank you in advance,
Octavian Andronic
www.ariascooters.com



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