Re: [biofuel] Military diesel motorcycles and other cool stuff...
Wow! a high performance, lighter, Harley! Merry Christmas, Doug On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 03:52 am, Neoteric Biofuels Inc wrote: http://www.americanprofile.com/issues/20010930/20010930ne_1354.asp See link above, ask this chap for plans, maybe. Perkins in a Harley, on biodiesel. On Monday, December 22, 2003, at 07:39 AM, Dan Maker wrote: Alan Petrillo said: If you ever do figure that out please let me know. I'd pay a dollar to see that! ;-) If I ever figure that one out, I'll take it on the road and make a fortune, or at least a buck or two. :) Well, if you don't mind going through the headaches of building a custom bike you could either buy a basket case and rebuild it, or you could get rolling stock from an off the shelf manufacturer and build your own from scratch. That's kind of what I'm thinking at this point. Time to research what conversions have been done with which engine/transmission/frame combinations. From what I've seen, Harleys have been used as host bikes for some diesel customs because of their separate engine and transmission. Buy a Harley with a dead engine, yank the dead petrol engine, and replace it with a diesel of your choice, with the appropriate modifications. Most other motorcycles today have the engine and transmission in a common case, which makes conversion highly nontrivial. Yeah. That'd make the Harley a good choice. It makes for some good thinking and dreaming, anyway. It's fun to research, not something I'd want to start building, too many other projects already in progress. Dan -- Jack of all trades, master of none. Fiber Artist - Genealogist - Kilt Maker - Linux Geek - Piper - Woodworker http://www.xmission.com/~redbeard Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] Military diesel motorcycles and other cool stuff...
Good luck finding a scrap Harley Thanks primarily to RUB's buying up all the new production, even a basket-case HD will set you back a couple grand. (For the uninitiated, a RUB pronounced rube is a Rich Urban Biker generally a doctor, attorney, accountant or other white collar professional who transports his bike to rallies on a trailer.) Anyway, Harleys are overpriced and overrated. Your best bet for a diesel conversion is to go with an older Japanese bike. They are cheap, well made, and readily available. I would even venture to say that you might able to scrounge one for free. After all, who wants to buy a Japanese motorcycle with a blown engine? The Enfields are intriguing, and there is already information out there about installing a Hatz diesel in them. Good luck. -BRAH -Original Message- From: Dan Maker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 3:56 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Military diesel motorcycles and other cool stuff... Neoteric Biofuels Inc said: http://www.americanprofile.com/issues/20010930/20010930ne_1354.asp See link above, ask this chap for plans, maybe. Perkins in a Harley, on biodiesel. It's a cool story, but I'm not sure it's the direction I want to go to build a diesel bike. This bit from the fifth paragraph put me off the first time I read it, a few days ago: He also spent $15,000 on parts for his one-of-a-kind motorcycle. But then he did buy the frame new, it could probably be done for a lot less if one were to check the local salvage yards for parts. Dan -- Jack of all trades, master of none. Fiber Artist - Genealogist - Kilt Maker - Linux Geek - Piper - Woodworker http://www.xmission.com/~redbeard Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT click here http://rd.yahoo.com/SIG=12cr4qqt9/M=266841.4316200.5507732.1261774/D=eg roupweb/S=1705083269:HM/EXP=1072216583/A=1911858/R=0/*http:/www.lifescap einc.com/picasa/landing.php?capid=222caId=1987 http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=266841.4316200.5507732.1261774/D=egrou pmail/S=:HM/A=1911858/rand=852791298 _ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Military diesel motorcycles and other cool stuff...
I'm sorry if I came in late on this but I did see this: http://www.farmshow.com/issues/27/05/270502.asp Kind of big but a place to start. Also, Farmshow is a very good publication to browse. Good ideas and things to ponder. fred On 22 Dec 2003, Dan Maker wrote: Neoteric Biofuels Inc said: http://www.americanprofile.com/issues/20010930/20010930ne_1354.asp See link above, ask this chap for plans, maybe. Perkins in a Harley, on biodiesel. It's a cool story, but I'm not sure it's the direction I want to go to build a diesel bike. This bit from the fifth paragraph put me off the first time I read it, a few days ago: He also spent $15,000 on parts for his one-of-a-kind motorcycle. But then he did buy the frame new, it could probably be done for a lot less if one were to check the local salvage yards for parts. Dan -- Jack of all trades, master of none. Fiber Artist - Genealogist - Kilt Maker - Linux Geek - Piper - Woodworker http://www.xmission.com/~redbeard Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Military diesel motorcycles and other cool stuff...
Bryan Brah said: Thanks primarily to RUB's buying up all the new production, even a basket-case HD will set you back a couple grand. (For the uninitiated, a RUB pronounced rube is a Rich Urban Biker generally a doctor, attorney, accountant or other white collar professional who transports his bike to rallies on a trailer.) RUB, I like it. Anyway, Harleys are overpriced and overrated. Your best bet for a diesel conversion is to go with an older Japanese bike. They are cheap, well made, and readily available. I would even venture to say that you might able to scrounge one for free. After all, who wants to buy a Japanese motorcycle with a blown engine? Do you know of any japanese bikes that have a transmission seperate from the engine? That seems to be the big advantage of using a harley. The Enfields are intriguing, and there is already information out there about installing a Hatz diesel in them. Yup, and if I come across one with a blown engine, I'll be all over it. :) Cheers, Dan -- Jack of all trades, master of none. Fiber Artist - Genealogist - Kilt Maker - Linux Geek - Piper - Woodworker http://www.xmission.com/~redbeard Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] Military diesel motorcycles and other cool stuff...
Hi Bryan Good luck finding a scrap Harley Thanks primarily to RUB's buying up all the new production, even a basket-case HD will set you back a couple grand. (For the uninitiated, a RUB pronounced rube is a Rich Urban Biker generally a doctor, attorney, accountant or other white collar professional who transports his bike to rallies on a trailer.) Anyway, Harleys are overpriced and overrated. And you have to get off and push them round corners, don't you? :-) Your best bet for a diesel conversion is to go with an older Japanese bike. They are cheap, well made, and readily available. I would even venture to say that you might able to scrounge one for free. After all, who wants to buy a Japanese motorcycle with a blown engine? The Japanese love Harleys, they're fascinated by the lo-tech. There are lots of them here, you see them out on the roads in big packs in the summer, always beautifully kept machines. The Enfields are intriguing, and there is already information out there about installing a Hatz diesel in them. I think the Enfields also have separate gearboxes, not unit construction. They're developed from old British bikes, and the Brits only started building unit construction motors in the early sixties. Some may have been earlier, I can't recall any though. Hmm... Triumph Bonnevilles of yore, Norton Dominators, and then Commandos, BSA Gold Stars, AJS, Matchless, Ariel, Royal Enfield... Vincents, wow. One guy had a Vincent Black Prince 1000cc V2 mill in a duplex Norton Dominator frame, squeezed it in with a shoehorn, nice job, what a machine! My brother put a 500cc BSA twin in a 175cc Ducati frame (early Ducatis were small), also a shoehorn job, his usual beautiful work. Amazing torque, and it handled well. Gold Star was the only bike in town my Bonneville couldn't beat (he couldn't beat me either). Kawasaki still make their version of the Gold Star, big single, retro bike, very cool. It must be nearly 50 years old, that design. Sigh... Keith Good luck. -BRAH -Original Message- From: Dan Maker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 3:56 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Military diesel motorcycles and other cool stuff... Neoteric Biofuels Inc said: http://www.americanprofile.com/issues/20010930/20010930ne_1354.asp See link above, ask this chap for plans, maybe. Perkins in a Harley, on biodiesel. It's a cool story, but I'm not sure it's the direction I want to go to build a diesel bike. This bit from the fifth paragraph put me off the first time I read it, a few days ago: He also spent $15,000 on parts for his one-of-a-kind motorcycle. But then he did buy the frame new, it could probably be done for a lot less if one were to check the local salvage yards for parts. Dan -- Jack of all trades, master of none. Fiber Artist - Genealogist - Kilt Maker - Linux Geek - Piper - Woodworker http://www.xmission.com/~redbeard Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Military diesel motorcycles and other cool stuff...
Why not try a HD trans in a jap frame? You're gonna have to modify things to fit a diesel in there anyway. Dan Maker wrote: Anyway, Harleys are overpriced and overrated. Your best bet for a diesel conversion is to go with an older Japanese bike. They are cheap, well made, and readily available. I would even venture to say that you might able to scrounge one for free. After all, who wants to buy a Japanese motorcycle with a blown engine? Do you know of any japanese bikes that have a transmission seperate from the engine? That seems to be the big advantage of using a harley. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Military diesel motorcycles and other cool stuff...
Detrick Merz said: Why not try a HD trans in a jap frame? You're gonna have to modify things to fit a diesel in there anyway. An HD trans? I was thinking, last night, of using a seperate transmission but I haven't done any research into what options are avaliable. Dan -- Jack of all trades, master of none. Fiber Artist - Genealogist - Kilt Maker - Linux Geek - Piper - Woodworker http://www.xmission.com/~redbeard Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Military diesel motorcycles and other cool stuff...
I read in one of the former mails that there is no Royal Enfield Diesel version available. In Germany there seems to be a dealer who is still building/selling them. Here his url: http://home.t-online.de/home/Beckedorf/dealer.htm Andreas Ohnsorge CSC Abraham-Lincoln-Park 1 65189 Wiesbaden Germany Phone: +49.611.142.20020 Fax: +49.611.142.980028 Mobile:+49 172 - 8 43 30 32 e-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Experience Results. Experience CSC. This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose. Detrick Merz detmerz To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com @uu.net cc: Subject: Re: [biofuel] Military diesel motorcycles and other cool stuff... 23.12.2003 14:38 Please respond to biofuel Why not try a HD trans in a jap frame? You're gonna have to modify things to fit a diesel in there anyway. Dan Maker wrote: Anyway, Harleys are overpriced and overrated. Your best bet for a diesel conversion is to go with an older Japanese bike. They are cheap, well made, and readily available. I would even venture to say that you might able to scrounge one for free. After all, who wants to buy a Japanese motorcycle with a blown engine? Do you know of any japanese bikes that have a transmission seperate from the engine? That seems to be the big advantage of using a harley. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Military diesel motorcycles and other cool stuff...
Dan Maker said: Detrick Merz said: Why not try a HD trans in a jap frame? You're gonna have to modify things to fit a diesel in there anyway. An HD trans? Doh! HD == Harley Davidson. I can't believe I missed that the first time. Dan -- Jack of all trades, master of none. Fiber Artist - Genealogist - Kilt Maker - Linux Geek - Piper - Woodworker http://www.xmission.com/~redbeard Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Military diesel motorcycles and other cool stuff...
Dan Maker wrote: I had four Honda bikes at one point. Never could figure out how to ride them all at once ;) If you ever do figure that out please let me know. I'd pay a dollar to see that! ;-) I don't currently own any, and I'd love to rectify that by getting a diesel powered bike. Well, if you don't mind going through the headaches of building a custom bike you could either buy a basket case and rebuild it, or you could get rolling stock from an off the shelf manufacturer and build your own from scratch. From what I've seen, Harleys have been used as host bikes for some diesel customs because of their separate engine and transmission. Buy a Harley with a dead engine, yank the dead petrol engine, and replace it with a diesel of your choice, with the appropriate modifications. Most other motorcycles today have the engine and transmission in a common case, which makes conversion highly nontrivial. If anyone builds a diesel engine with an opposed, or boxer format then something like a Honda Gold Wing might make a good host bike. (Oil Wing?) Same for an old BMW R series bike. If you could find a small horizontal inline engine then you might be able to fit it to a K bike. I don't know much about the F series. It makes for some good thinking and dreaming, anyway. AP Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Military diesel motorcycles and other cool stuff...
There was a Dutch motorcycle that used a Peugeot 1.4L diesel. Sorry, do not remember the details. Try google. Merry Christmas HNY, Doug On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 02:39 am, Dan Maker wrote: Alan Petrillo said: If you ever do figure that out please let me know. I'd pay a dollar to see that! ;-) If I ever figure that one out, I'll take it on the road and make a fortune, or at least a buck or two. :) Well, if you don't mind going through the headaches of building a custom bike you could either buy a basket case and rebuild it, or you could get rolling stock from an off the shelf manufacturer and build your own from scratch. That's kind of what I'm thinking at this point. Time to research what conversions have been done with which engine/transmission/frame combinations. From what I've seen, Harleys have been used as host bikes for some diesel customs because of their separate engine and transmission. Buy a Harley with a dead engine, yank the dead petrol engine, and replace it with a diesel of your choice, with the appropriate modifications. Most other motorcycles today have the engine and transmission in a common case, which makes conversion highly nontrivial. Yeah. That'd make the Harley a good choice. It makes for some good thinking and dreaming, anyway. It's fun to research, not something I'd want to start building, too many other projects already in progress. Dan Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Military diesel motorcycles and other cool stuff...
Alan Petrillo said: If you ever do figure that out please let me know. I'd pay a dollar to see that! ;-) If I ever figure that one out, I'll take it on the road and make a fortune, or at least a buck or two. :) Well, if you don't mind going through the headaches of building a custom bike you could either buy a basket case and rebuild it, or you could get rolling stock from an off the shelf manufacturer and build your own from scratch. That's kind of what I'm thinking at this point. Time to research what conversions have been done with which engine/transmission/frame combinations. From what I've seen, Harleys have been used as host bikes for some diesel customs because of their separate engine and transmission. Buy a Harley with a dead engine, yank the dead petrol engine, and replace it with a diesel of your choice, with the appropriate modifications. Most other motorcycles today have the engine and transmission in a common case, which makes conversion highly nontrivial. Yeah. That'd make the Harley a good choice. It makes for some good thinking and dreaming, anyway. It's fun to research, not something I'd want to start building, too many other projects already in progress. Dan -- Jack of all trades, master of none. Fiber Artist - Genealogist - Kilt Maker - Linux Geek - Piper - Woodworker http://www.xmission.com/~redbeard Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Military diesel motorcycles and other cool stuff...
http://www.americanprofile.com/issues/20010930/20010930ne_1354.asp See link above, ask this chap for plans, maybe. Perkins in a Harley, on biodiesel. On Monday, December 22, 2003, at 07:39 AM, Dan Maker wrote: Alan Petrillo said: If you ever do figure that out please let me know. I'd pay a dollar to see that! ;-) If I ever figure that one out, I'll take it on the road and make a fortune, or at least a buck or two. :) Well, if you don't mind going through the headaches of building a custom bike you could either buy a basket case and rebuild it, or you could get rolling stock from an off the shelf manufacturer and build your own from scratch. That's kind of what I'm thinking at this point. Time to research what conversions have been done with which engine/transmission/frame combinations. From what I've seen, Harleys have been used as host bikes for some diesel customs because of their separate engine and transmission. Buy a Harley with a dead engine, yank the dead petrol engine, and replace it with a diesel of your choice, with the appropriate modifications. Most other motorcycles today have the engine and transmission in a common case, which makes conversion highly nontrivial. Yeah. That'd make the Harley a good choice. It makes for some good thinking and dreaming, anyway. It's fun to research, not something I'd want to start building, too many other projects already in progress. Dan -- Jack of all trades, master of none. Fiber Artist - Genealogist - Kilt Maker - Linux Geek - Piper - Woodworker http://www.xmission.com/~redbeard Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Military diesel motorcycles and other cool stuff...
Neoteric Biofuels Inc said: http://www.americanprofile.com/issues/20010930/20010930ne_1354.asp See link above, ask this chap for plans, maybe. Perkins in a Harley, on biodiesel. It's a cool story, but I'm not sure it's the direction I want to go to build a diesel bike. This bit from the fifth paragraph put me off the first time I read it, a few days ago: He also spent $15,000 on parts for his one-of-a-kind motorcycle. But then he did buy the frame new, it could probably be done for a lot less if one were to check the local salvage yards for parts. Dan -- Jack of all trades, master of none. Fiber Artist - Genealogist - Kilt Maker - Linux Geek - Piper - Woodworker http://www.xmission.com/~redbeard Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Military diesel motorcycles and other cool stuff...
Keith Addison said: Hi again Dan If you find any good news please let us know - I really hope it's not just a never-never grant-cow milker or something. It looks like a great bike! But they had that test-demo video out a couple of years ago already, what the hell's taking them so long? I've emailed the Royal Enfield importer here in the US to ask if they bring in any of the diesel bikes. The rest of my searching has turned up a number of conversions. Pull the petrol engine and put in a diesel engine, making modifications as necessary. Some very nice looking jobs but so far nothing in regular production here in the US. There are a few shops in Germany that offer to do the conversion for you, so that's good news for those in Europe looking for a diesel motorcycle. I'll continue to search, and possibly contact Royal Enfield of India to see what it would take to bring in a diesel bike, if the US importer can't or won't. Anyway, I'm a bike freak from way back, gotta have bikes. :-) I had four Honda bikes at one point. Never could figure out how to ride them all at once ;) I don't currently own any, and I'd love to rectify that by getting a diesel powered bike. Cheers, Dan -- Jack of all trades, master of none. Fiber Artist - Genealogist - Kilt Maker - Linux Geek - Piper - Woodworker http://www.xmission.com/~redbeard Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Military diesel motorcycles and other cool stuff...
Should make a good episode of American ChopperPaul and Paul Jr. scrapping over whether to use a Kubota or a VW TDI in their next project, for some actor named Woody. On Friday, December 19, 2003, at 02:16 AM, michael hicks wrote: Thought you might be intrested. A lorry driver who works for the RAF I know has just bought a custom built diesel motorbike and it was feacherd in custom bike magazine Back street heros. It's got a custom built frame with a 380cc Japanese diesel cement mixer engine with a BSA gearbox i think! He says its very ecconomical hes only filled it up once sinse August and he uses it every day! Cheers Myke. Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dan It's looked promising for quite a while. Unveiled in May 2001... - two and a half years ago, and now: Final testing of the new engine will take place this summer at the Nevada Automotive Test Center, Doyle said. If all goes well, he said, replacements will begin in the fall. Well, not now, that story's six months old. What is it with these newfangled diesel bikes? Nothing ever seems to happen. Same with the eCycle, a couple of years go by, it still doesn't hit the streets. If you go there now you see the same old mock-up pictures, and this: For investor information: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Uh-huh. There are good diesel bikes that actually exist outside of the RD shack round the back. Roundup of them here, including the Hayes Kawasaki and the eCycle: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_bikes.html Diesel motorbikes: Journey to Forever Best Keith Neoteric Biofuels Inc said: June 2003 http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/article.cfm?Id=3D1134 Military Units Experiment With Ultralight Vehicles by Harold Kennedy The Marine Corps also is updating one of its oldest ultralight=20 vehicles=97the traditional motorcycle=97Doyle said. The Marines have used=20 motorcycles for decades for reconnaissance, patrols, courier service=20 and law enforcement. Now, the service is converting its 500 military=20 M1030B1 motorcycles=97Kawasaki KLR 650s=97to run on diesel fuel. Hayes Diversified Technologies, of Hesperia, Calif., has received a=20 $2.2 million contract to replace the motorcycles=92 gasoline engines with=20 diesel ones. I found some pictures and more commentary on this bike here: http://www.peace65.freeserve.co.uk/Pictures/militaryproduction.htm With a range of 120 miles per gallon the bike develops 33ftlb of torque and has a top speed of 80 MPH. A FAQ and more links and info can be found here: http://www.drive.cranfield.ac.uk/cfml/dieselmotorbike6.cfm It seems they are planing some civilian avaliability in the future. And a Google search with lots more links: http://www.google.com/search?q=Hayes+Diversified+Technologiessourcei d=operanum=0ie=utf-8oe=utf-8 Looks promising. Dan -- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ - Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
Re: [biofuel] Military diesel motorcycles and other cool stuff...
Hi again Dan Keith Addison said: Hi Dan It's looked promising for quite a while. Unveiled in May 2001... - two and a half years ago, and now: Final testing of the new engine will take place this summer at the Nevada Automotive Test Center, Doyle said. If all goes well, he said, replacements will begin in the fall. Well, not now, that story's six months old. Bummer, I didn't read the dates closely enough. I'll have to do some more digging. If you find any good news please let us know - I really hope it's not just a never-never grant-cow milker or something. It looks like a great bike! But they had that test-demo video out a couple of years ago already, what the hell's taking them so long? There are good diesel bikes that actually exist outside of the RD shack round the back. Roundup of them here, including the Hayes Kawasaki and the eCycle: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_bikes.html Diesel motorbikes: Journey to Forever wow, that's a part of JtF I hadn't been to yet (yes, it's a huge site, thanks for putting it all together and mantaining it Keith) You're most welcome - there's much more to come but it all just sits here in a pile, progress is glacial. Need some global warming to melt my progress glacier, LOL! Anyway, I'm a bike freak from way back, gotta have bikes. :-) Regards Keith Dan -- Jack of all trades, master of none. Fiber Artist - Genealogist - Kilt Maker - Linux Geek - Piper - Woodworker http://www.xmission.com/~redbeard Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Military diesel motorcycles and other cool stuff...
In a message dated 12/18/2003 3:09:27 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.peace65.freeserve.co.uk/Pictures/militaryproduction.htm Thanks for the M/C Diesel info... I want one of those bikes now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Military diesel motorcycles and other cool stuff...
Hi Dan It's looked promising for quite a while. Unveiled in May 2001... - two and a half years ago, and now: Final testing of the new engine will take place this summer at the Nevada Automotive Test Center, Doyle said. If all goes well, he said, replacements will begin in the fall. Well, not now, that story's six months old. What is it with these newfangled diesel bikes? Nothing ever seems to happen. Same with the eCycle, a couple of years go by, it still doesn't hit the streets. If you go there now you see the same old mock-up pictures, and this: For investor information: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Uh-huh. There are good diesel bikes that actually exist outside of the RD shack round the back. Roundup of them here, including the Hayes Kawasaki and the eCycle: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_bikes.html Diesel motorbikes: Journey to Forever Best Keith Neoteric Biofuels Inc said: June 2003 http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/article.cfm?Id=3D1134 Military Units Experiment With Ultralight Vehicles by Harold Kennedy The Marine Corps also is updating one of its oldest ultralight=20 vehicles=97the traditional motorcycle=97Doyle said. The Marines have used=20 motorcycles for decades for reconnaissance, patrols, courier service=20 and law enforcement. Now, the service is converting its 500 military=20 M1030B1 motorcycles=97Kawasaki KLR 650s=97to run on diesel fuel. Hayes Diversified Technologies, of Hesperia, Calif., has received a=20 $2.2 million contract to replace the motorcycles=92 gasoline engines with=20 diesel ones. I found some pictures and more commentary on this bike here: http://www.peace65.freeserve.co.uk/Pictures/militaryproduction.htm With a range of 120 miles per gallon the bike develops 33ftlb of torque and has a top speed of 80 MPH. A FAQ and more links and info can be found here: http://www.drive.cranfield.ac.uk/cfml/dieselmotorbike6.cfm It seems they are planing some civilian avaliability in the future. And a Google search with lots more links: http://www.google.com/search?q=Hayes+Diversified+Technologiessourcei d=operanum=0ie=utf-8oe=utf-8 Looks promising. Dan -- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Military diesel motorcycles and other cool stuff...
Thought you might be intrested. A lorry driver who works for the RAF I know has just bought a custom built diesel motorbike and it was feacherd in custom bike magazine Back street heros. It's got a custom built frame with a 380cc Japanese diesel cement mixer engine with a BSA gearbox i think! He says its very ecconomical hes only filled it up once sinse August and he uses it every day! Cheers Myke. Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dan It's looked promising for quite a while. Unveiled in May 2001... - two and a half years ago, and now: Final testing of the new engine will take place this summer at the Nevada Automotive Test Center, Doyle said. If all goes well, he said, replacements will begin in the fall. Well, not now, that story's six months old. What is it with these newfangled diesel bikes? Nothing ever seems to happen. Same with the eCycle, a couple of years go by, it still doesn't hit the streets. If you go there now you see the same old mock-up pictures, and this: For investor information: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Uh-huh. There are good diesel bikes that actually exist outside of the RD shack round the back. Roundup of them here, including the Hayes Kawasaki and the eCycle: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_bikes.html Diesel motorbikes: Journey to Forever Best Keith Neoteric Biofuels Inc said: June 2003 http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/article.cfm?Id=3D1134 Military Units Experiment With Ultralight Vehicles by Harold Kennedy The Marine Corps also is updating one of its oldest ultralight=20 vehicles=97the traditional motorcycle=97Doyle said. The Marines have used=20 motorcycles for decades for reconnaissance, patrols, courier service=20 and law enforcement. Now, the service is converting its 500 military=20 M1030B1 motorcycles=97Kawasaki KLR 650s=97to run on diesel fuel. Hayes Diversified Technologies, of Hesperia, Calif., has received a=20 $2.2 million contract to replace the motorcycles=92 gasoline engines with=20 diesel ones. I found some pictures and more commentary on this bike here: http://www.peace65.freeserve.co.uk/Pictures/militaryproduction.htm With a range of 120 miles per gallon the bike develops 33ftlb of torque and has a top speed of 80 MPH. A FAQ and more links and info can be found here: http://www.drive.cranfield.ac.uk/cfml/dieselmotorbike6.cfm It seems they are planing some civilian avaliability in the future. And a Google search with lots more links: http://www.google.com/search?q=Hayes+Diversified+Technologiessourcei d=operanum=0ie=utf-8oe=utf-8 Looks promising. Dan -- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ - Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Military diesel motorcycles and other cool stuff...
The Marine Corps also is updating one of its oldest ultralight vehiclesthe traditional motorcycleDoyle said. The Marines have used motorcycles for decades for reconnaissance, patrols, courier service and law enforcement. Now, the service is converting its 500 military M1030B1 motorcyclesKawasaki KLR 650sto run on diesel fuel. Hayes Diversified Technologies, of Hesperia, Calif., has received a $2.2 million contract to replace the motorcycles gasoline engines with diesel ones. We may be the first service to do that, Doyle said. The motorcycle diesel engine is a breakthrough, Doyle said. The Hayes engine has proven to have the same power and performance as the gasoline-powered engine. Final testing of the new engine will take place this summer at the Nevada Automotive Test Center, Doyle said. If all goes well, he said, replacements will begin in the fall. I just can't wait for these things to hit the civilian market! I think one of them would look really nice either riding in a carrier on the back of my Trooper, or moving down the road under my butt! The only other diesel motorcycles I've seen are the Royal Enfield, which, with its peekid little 8hp engine is WAY too slow for the American market, and certain custom built motorcycles, which are just too much of a PITA to build. AP Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Military diesel motorcycles and other cool stuff...
Keith Addison said: Hi Dan It's looked promising for quite a while. Unveiled in May 2001... - two and a half years ago, and now: Final testing of the new engine will take place this summer at the Nevada Automotive Test Center, Doyle said. If all goes well, he said, replacements will begin in the fall. Well, not now, that story's six months old. Bummer, I didn't read the dates closely enough. I'll have to do some more digging. There are good diesel bikes that actually exist outside of the RD shack round the back. Roundup of them here, including the Hayes Kawasaki and the eCycle: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_bikes.html Diesel motorbikes: Journey to Forever wow, that's a part of JtF I hadn't been to yet (yes, it's a huge site, thanks for putting it all together and mantaining it Keith) Dan -- Jack of all trades, master of none. Fiber Artist - Genealogist - Kilt Maker - Linux Geek - Piper - Woodworker http://www.xmission.com/~redbeard Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Military diesel motorcycles and other cool stuff...
Neoteric Biofuels Inc said: June 2003 http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/article.cfm?Id=3D1134 Military Units Experiment With Ultralight Vehicles by Harold Kennedy The Marine Corps also is updating one of its oldest ultralight=20 vehicles=97the traditional motorcycle=97Doyle said. The Marines have used=20 motorcycles for decades for reconnaissance, patrols, courier service=20 and law enforcement. Now, the service is converting its 500 military=20 M1030B1 motorcycles=97Kawasaki KLR 650s=97to run on diesel fuel. Hayes Diversified Technologies, of Hesperia, Calif., has received a=20 $2.2 million contract to replace the motorcycles=92 gasoline engines with=20 diesel ones. I found some pictures and more commentary on this bike here: http://www.peace65.freeserve.co.uk/Pictures/militaryproduction.htm With a range of 120 miles per gallon the bike develops 33ftlb of torque and has a top speed of 80 MPH. A FAQ and more links and info can be found here: http://www.drive.cranfield.ac.uk/cfml/dieselmotorbike6.cfm It seems they are planing some civilian avaliability in the future. And a Google search with lots more links: http://www.google.com/search?q=Hayes+Diversified+Technologiessourceid=operanum=0ie=utf-8oe=utf-8 Looks promising. Dan -- Jack of all trades, master of none. Fiber Artist - Genealogist - Kilt Maker - Linux Geek - Piper - Woodworker http://www.xmission.com/~redbeard Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
