Re: [biofuel] This is the reality of war. We bomb. They suffer
Here's a new interview with Robert Fisk. http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=36ItemID=3323 Un-Embedded Journalist by Robert Fisk March 25, 2003 Robert Fisk on Washington's 'Quagmire' in Iraq, Civilian Deaths and the Fallacy of Bush's 'War of Liberation' 7,000 words, good read. Fight Prime Time. Read a Book. (or a newspaper) Right! But for many it'll probably take methadone. Best Keith Maybe if the boob tube generation weren't glued to their sets, there wouldn't be such a frenzy to feed them. If you're one of those watching, then they're playing to you. Now which is more obscene? Don't the viewers have any feelings for the victims? Couldn't they just read the paper or get the synopsis off NPR? What is it that possesses them to lose themselves in everything from tradgedy in the making to farce for hours at a time? Todd Swearingen Fight Prime Time. Read a Book. (or a newspaper) - Original Message - From: Ken Basterfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] This is the reality of war. We bomb. They suffer What was just as obscene was the crush of reporters rushing and pushing along the corridors of the hospital to get their own 'scoop' Explain why there has to be at least 30 of these vultures, don't they trust each? Have they no feelings for the victims? Couldn't they just send in one representative from their 'pack' to do the interview? Ken - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 6:45 PM Subject: [biofuel] This is the reality of war. We bomb. They suffer The face of Iraqi suffering Robert Fisk toured a Baghdad hospital the day after the bombing. He writes in the Independent (U.K.), There is something sick, obscene about these hospital visits. We bomb. They suffer. Then we turn up and take pictures of their wounded children. Read about five-year old Doha Suleil who has lost all movement in her left leg because of shrapnel from the cruise missile attack. http://argument.independent.co.uk/commentators/story.jsp?story=389918 This is the reality of war. We bomb. They suffer Veteran war reporter Robert Fisk tours the Baghdad hospital to see the wounded after a devastating night of air strikes 23 March 2003 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Make Money Online Auctions! Make $500.00 or We Will Give You Thirty Dollars for Trying! http://us.click.yahoo.com/yMx78A/fNtFAA/46VHAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] This is the reality of war. We bomb. They suffer
What was just as obscene was the crush of reporters rushing and pushing along the corridors of the hospital to get their own 'scoop' Explain why there has to be at least 30 of these vultures, don't they trust each? Have they no feelings for the victims? Couldn't they just send in one representative from their 'pack' to do the interview? Ken - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 6:45 PM Subject: [biofuel] This is the reality of war. We bomb. They suffer The face of Iraqi suffering Robert Fisk toured a Baghdad hospital the day after the bombing. He writes in the Independent (U.K.), There is something sick, obscene about these hospital visits. We bomb. They suffer. Then we turn up and take pictures of their wounded children. Read about five-year old Doha Suleil who has lost all movement in her left leg because of shrapnel from the cruise missile attack. http://argument.independent.co.uk/commentators/story.jsp?story=389918 This is the reality of war. We bomb. They suffer Veteran war reporter Robert Fisk tours the Baghdad hospital to see the wounded after a devastating night of air strikes 23 March 2003 Donald Rumsfeld says the American attack on Baghdad is as targeted an air campaign as has ever existed but he should not try telling that to five-year-old Doha Suheil. She looked at me yesterday morning, drip feed attached to her nose, a deep frown over her small face as she tried vainly to move the left side of her body. The cruise missile that exploded close to her home in the Radwaniyeh suburb of Baghdad blasted shrapnel into her tiny legs (they were bound up with gauze) and, far more seriously, into her spine. Now she has lost all movement in her left leg. Her mother bends over the bed and straightens her right leg which the little girl thrashes around outside the blanket. Somehow, Doha's mother thinks that if her child's two legs lie straight beside each other, her daughter will recover from her paralysis. She was the first of 101 patients brought to the Al-Mustansaniya College Hospital after America's blitz on the city began on Friday night. Seven other members of her family were wounded in the same cruise missile bombardment; the youngest, a one-year-old baby, was being breastfed by her mother at the time. There is something sick, obscene about these hospital visits. We bomb. They suffer. Then we turn up and take pictures of their wounded children. The Iraqi minister of health decides to hold an insufferable press conference outside the wards to emphasise the bestial nature of the American attack. The Americans say that they don't intend to hurt children. And Doha Suheil looks at me and the doctors for reassurance, as if she will awake from this nightmare and move her left leg and feel no more pain. So let's forget, for a moment, the cheap propaganda of the regime and the equally cheap moralising of Messrs Rumsfeld and Bush, and take a trip around the Al-Mustansaniya College Hospital. For the reality of war is ultimately not about military victory and defeat, or the lies about coalition forces which our embedded journalists are now peddling about an invasion involving only the Americans, the British and a handful of Australians. War, even when it has international legitimacy which this war does not is primarily about suffering. Take 50-year-old Amel Hassan, a peasant woman with tattoos on her arms and legs but who now lies on her hospital bed with massive purple bruises on her shoulders - they are now twice their original size - who was on her way to visit her daughter when the first American missile struck Baghdad. I was just getting out of the taxi when there was a big explosion and I fell down and found my blood everywhere, she told me. It was on my arms, my legs, my chest. Amel Hassan still has multiple shrapnel wounds in her chest. Her five-year-old daughter Wahed lies in the next bed, whimpering with pain. She had climbed out of the taxi first and was almost at her aunt's front door when the explosion cut her down. Her feet are still bleeding although the blood has clotted around her toes and is staunched by the bandages on her ankles and lower legs. Two little boys are in the next room. Sade Selim is 11; his brother Omar is 14. Both have shrapnel wounds to their legs and chest. Isra Riad is in the third room with almost identical injuries, in her case shrapnel wounds to the legs as she ran in terror from her house into her garden as the blitz began. Imam Ali is 23 and has multiple shrapnel wounds in her abdomen and lower bowel. Najla Hussein Abbas still tries to cover her head with a black scarf but she cannot hide the purple wounds to her legs. Multiple shrapnel wounds. After a while, multiple shrapnel wounds sounds like a natural disease which, I suppose among a people who have suffered more than 20 years of war it is. And
Re: [biofuel] This is the reality of war. We bomb. They suffer
Maybe if the boob tube generation weren't glued to their sets, there wouldn't be such a frenzy to feed them. If you're one of those watching, then they're playing to you. Now which is more obscene? Don't the viewers have any feelings for the victims? Couldn't they just read the paper or get the synopsis off NPR? What is it that possesses them to lose themselves in everything from tradgedy in the making to farce for hours at a time? Todd Swearingen Fight Prime Time. Read a Book. (or a newspaper) - Original Message - From: Ken Basterfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] This is the reality of war. We bomb. They suffer What was just as obscene was the crush of reporters rushing and pushing along the corridors of the hospital to get their own 'scoop' Explain why there has to be at least 30 of these vultures, don't they trust each? Have they no feelings for the victims? Couldn't they just send in one representative from their 'pack' to do the interview? Ken - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 6:45 PM Subject: [biofuel] This is the reality of war. We bomb. They suffer The face of Iraqi suffering Robert Fisk toured a Baghdad hospital the day after the bombing. He writes in the Independent (U.K.), There is something sick, obscene about these hospital visits. We bomb. They suffer. Then we turn up and take pictures of their wounded children. Read about five-year old Doha Suleil who has lost all movement in her left leg because of shrapnel from the cruise missile attack. http://argument.independent.co.uk/commentators/story.jsp?story=389918 This is the reality of war. We bomb. They suffer Veteran war reporter Robert Fisk tours the Baghdad hospital to see the wounded after a devastating night of air strikes 23 March 2003 Donald Rumsfeld says the American attack on Baghdad is as targeted an air campaign as has ever existed but he should not try telling that to five-year-old Doha Suheil. She looked at me yesterday morning, drip feed attached to her nose, a deep frown over her small face as she tried vainly to move the left side of her body. The cruise missile that exploded close to her home in the Radwaniyeh suburb of Baghdad blasted shrapnel into her tiny legs (they were bound up with gauze) and, far more seriously, into her spine. Now she has lost all movement in her left leg. Her mother bends over the bed and straightens her right leg which the little girl thrashes around outside the blanket. Somehow, Doha's mother thinks that if her child's two legs lie straight beside each other, her daughter will recover from her paralysis. She was the first of 101 patients brought to the Al-Mustansaniya College Hospital after America's blitz on the city began on Friday night. Seven other members of her family were wounded in the same cruise missile bombardment; the youngest, a one-year-old baby, was being breastfed by her mother at the time. There is something sick, obscene about these hospital visits. We bomb. They suffer. Then we turn up and take pictures of their wounded children. The Iraqi minister of health decides to hold an insufferable press conference outside the wards to emphasise the bestial nature of the American attack. The Americans say that they don't intend to hurt children. And Doha Suheil looks at me and the doctors for reassurance, as if she will awake from this nightmare and move her left leg and feel no more pain. So let's forget, for a moment, the cheap propaganda of the regime and the equally cheap moralising of Messrs Rumsfeld and Bush, and take a trip around the Al-Mustansaniya College Hospital. For the reality of war is ultimately not about military victory and defeat, or the lies about coalition forces which our embedded journalists are now peddling about an invasion involving only the Americans, the British and a handful of Australians. War, even when it has international legitimacy which this war does not is primarily about suffering. Take 50-year-old Amel Hassan, a peasant woman with tattoos on her arms and legs but who now lies on her hospital bed with massive purple bruises on her shoulders - they are now twice their original size - who was on her way to visit her daughter when the first American missile struck Baghdad. I was just getting out of the taxi when there was a big explosion and I fell down and found my blood everywhere, she told me. It was on my arms, my legs, my chest. Amel Hassan still has multiple shrapnel wounds in her chest. Her five-year-old daughter Wahed lies in the next bed, whimpering with pain. She had climbed out of the taxi first and was almost at her aunt's front door when the explosion cut her down. Her feet are still bleeding although the blood
Re: [biofuel] This is the reality of war. We bomb. They suffer
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 01:03 pm, Appal Energy wrote: Maybe if the boob tube generation weren't glued to their sets, there wouldn't be such a frenzy to feed them. If you're one of those watching, then they're playing to you. Now which is more obscene? Don't the viewers have any feelings for the victims? Couldn't they just read the paper or get the synopsis off NPR? What is it that possesses them to lose themselves in everything from tradgedy in the making to farce for hours at a time? Todd Swearingen Fight Prime Time. Read a Book. (or a newspaper) hehehe... Work, Consume, Die! see, that is what it is all about, the global media armchair live conflict game - reality TV come full circle. nothing to do with war or terrorism or oil. it is the media driving the whole shebang... (tongue firmly in cheek - er. looking back on it, it may come across that I am having a scarcastic go at Todd - not my intent, OK... merely exposing another line of thought...) has anyone see a movie from a few years back, the Second Civil War? funny! harsh! Like Micheal Moore on a good day. -- Dr Paul van den Bergen Centre for Advanced Internet Architectures caia.swin.edu.au [EMAIL PROTECTED] IM:bulwynkl2002 It's a book. Non-volatile storage media. Everyone should have one. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Your own Online Store Selling our Overstock. http://us.click.yahoo.com/rZll0B/4ftFAA/46VHAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
