Re: Sermon on the mount...Re: [Biofuel] Titration problems
Hi Todd ; Love your sense of humor! Best Regards, Peter G. Thailand --- Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, Now that we've had the sermon on the mount, circa 2004, the question still remains. If you're born again, do you have two belly buttons? Todd Swearingen Born okay the first time. - Original Message - From: Tim Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 1:27 PM Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Titration problems Ah yes, But the bible also states that your righteousness is as filthy rags. This passage is in the new testament and I'll have to look up the exact reference later. Righteousness and Religion don't count for anything. But before I further this thought you must first be a believer in God (by whatever name you call him). If you don't believe then what's the point. But if you do believe then you must certainly recall some scriptures. I read some post that stated that God did not intend for religion to be organized. But he most certainly did. In the old testament there is scripture reference stating forsake not the gathering together of yourselves as the manner of some is... meaning that people of faith should assemble together. And why should we gather together? As is stated in the new testament Faith is built from faith to faith.. which is to say that we increase in both knowledge and understanding by gathering together, much as we do here in the befoul list. We share our knowledge, gain understanding, and encourage one another. The apostle Paul also stated that things should be done in order regarding the gathering together. Much of those gathering together events were not however held in Temples but rather in homes of individuals and other places. The Church is not a building but rather it refers to the Faithful followers. The Temples are no less sacred but still only a place to gather together. No one can argue that much of the so called Christian community today is filled with hypocrites, socialites, etc...many people seeking to put forward a good face to mask their evil deeds. The scripture also states ..that where good is, evil is also present... I agree that most of what exist of religious organizations today is either a cult or cult like but not all. I will always be reluctant to stereotype anyone because I believe that there is always some good to be found within the bad (speaking of people). Our challenge today is to find someone in which we can gather together with who is indeed seeking after God and his will in our lives that we can increase our faith through association with their faith. And what if you don't believe as I believe? It doesn't matter to me. I can't save you anyway. Save you (the non-believer) from what? It doesn't matter...you don't believe. I will still pray to my God that he bless you and your house and that we may all live in peace and that we can learn to live as equals on this planet. And I can share my efforts with my neighbors (of various faiths) to bring equity to the world starting with my neighbors. None of my neighbors share the same faith but we do share this planet and I hope that we can learn together how to reap, replenish and restore what this earth has for us. May God bless you all, Best wishes, Tim Romans 2:14-15 Luc - Original Message - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 7:47 AM Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Titration problems Christopher: God is not as illogical as religion would put Him. According to the Bible, even persons who never knew of God but do the right(good)thing ARE righteous regardless. Christopher, I know of some suggestion of this in the Bible, but am unsure of where it is explicitly stated. Do you have a reference? Thanks. Brian ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html
RE: Sermon on the mount...Re: [Biofuel] Titration problems
Well the first one doesn't actually do much. :-) Best, Christopher -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael Redler Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 12:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Sermon on the mount...Re: [Biofuel] Titration problems Hey, since we are on the subject, I was wondering -- If you get a second belly button, Does it do anything? If so, do we get to choose what it does? Because, I keep loosing my garage door opener. Mike Tim Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Todd, Born of the water or of the spirit is the question? So then do I have two natural belly buttons or only one natural belly button and one spiritual belly button? I think maybe the later. Best wishes Todd, Tim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Appal Energy Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Sermon on the mount...Re: [Biofuel] Titration problems Okay, Now that we've had the sermon on the mount, circa 2004, the question still remains. If you're born again, do you have two belly buttons? Todd Swearingen Born okay the first time. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: Sermon on the mount...Re: [Biofuel] Titration problems
Luc - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:37 PM Subject: Sermon on the mount...Re: [Biofuel] Titration problems Okay, Now that we've had the sermon on the mount, circa 2004, the question still remains. If you're born again, do you have two belly buttons? Todd Swearingen Born okay the first time. - Original Message - From: Tim Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 1:27 PM Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Titration problems Ah yes, But the bible also states that your righteousness is as filthy rags. This passage is in the new testament and I'll have to look up the exact reference later. Righteousness and Religion don't count for anything. But before I further this thought you must first be a believer in God (by whatever name you call him). If you don't believe then what's the point. But if you do believe then you must certainly recall some scriptures. I read some post that stated that God did not intend for religion to be organized. But he most certainly did. In the old testament there is scripture reference stating forsake not the gathering together of yourselves as the manner of some is... meaning that people of faith should assemble together. And why should we gather together? As is stated in the new testament Faith is built from faith to faith.. which is to say that we increase in both knowledge and understanding by gathering together, much as we do here in the befoul list. We share our knowledge, gain understanding, and encourage one another. The apostle Paul also stated that things should be done in order regarding the gathering together. Much of those gathering together events were not however held in Temples but rather in homes of individuals and other places. The Church is not a building but rather it refers to the Faithful followers. The Temples are no less sacred but still only a place to gather together. No one can argue that much of the so called Christian community today is filled with hypocrites, socialites, etc...many people seeking to put forward a good face to mask their evil deeds. The scripture also states ..that where good is, evil is also present... I agree that most of what exist of religious organizations today is either a cult or cult like but not all. I will always be reluctant to stereotype anyone because I believe that there is always some good to be found within the bad (speaking of people). Our challenge today is to find someone in which we can gather together with who is indeed seeking after God and his will in our lives that we can increase our faith through association with their faith. And what if you don't believe as I believe? It doesn't matter to me. I can't save you anyway. Save you (the non-believer) from what? It doesn't matter...you don't believe. I will still pray to my God that he bless you and your house and that we may all live in peace and that we can learn to live as equals on this planet. And I can share my efforts with my neighbors (of various faiths) to bring equity to the world starting with my neighbors. None of my neighbors share the same faith but we do share this planet and I hope that we can learn together how to reap, replenish and restore what this earth has for us. May God bless you all, Best wishes, Tim Romans 2:14-15 Luc - Original Message - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 7:47 AM Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Titration problems Christopher: God is not as illogical as religion would put Him. According to the Bible, even persons who never knew of God but do the right(good)thing ARE righteous regardless. Christopher, I know of some suggestion of this in the Bible, but am unsure of where it is explicitly stated. Do you have a reference? Thanks. Brian ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
RE: Sermon on the mount...Re: [Biofuel] Titration problems
Hello Todd, Born of the water or of the spirit is the question? So then do I have two natural belly buttons or only one natural belly button and one spiritual belly button? I think maybe the later. Best wishes Todd, Tim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Appal Energy Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Sermon on the mount...Re: [Biofuel] Titration problems Okay, Now that we've had the sermon on the mount, circa 2004, the question still remains. If you're born again, do you have two belly buttons? Todd Swearingen Born okay the first time. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
RE: Sermon on the mount...Re: [Biofuel] Titration problems
Hey, since we are on the subject, I was wondering -- If you get a second belly button, Does it do anything? If so, do we get to choose what it does? Because, I keep loosing my garage door opener. Mike Tim Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Todd, Born of the water or of the spirit is the question? So then do I have two natural belly buttons or only one natural belly button and one spiritual belly button? I think maybe the later. Best wishes Todd, Tim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Appal Energy Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Sermon on the mount...Re: [Biofuel] Titration problems Okay, Now that we've had the sermon on the mount, circa 2004, the question still remains. If you're born again, do you have two belly buttons? Todd Swearingen Born okay the first time. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: Sermon on the mount...Re: [Biofuel] Titration problems
Here are weblinks to environmental stewardship and spiritual living in Christian terms; and then weblinks for other major world religions...there are many many similarities. http://egj.lib.uidaho.edu/egj12/johnson1/ http://www.surfinthespirit.com/environment/environmental-protection.shtml http://www.asa3.org/ASA/PSCF6-95Wright.html http://www.christianecology.org/Stewardship.html Here are weblinks and other religions and environmental stewardship: http://www.acton.org/ppolicy/environment/spirituality/ http://bulletin.rec.org/bull113/clergy_urge.html http://www.mnchurches.org/media/pdfs/ecojustice/Bibliography.pdf http://environment.harvard.edu/religion/religion/islam/index.html http://environment.harvard.edu/religion/religion/judaism/projects/coejl.html http://environment.harvard.edu/religion/religion/buddhism/projects/earth_sangha.html http://environment.harvard.edu/religion/religion/confucianism/index.html http://environment.harvard.edu/religion/religion/indigenous/index.html --- Legal Eagle :-) :-) Luc - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:37 PM Subject: Sermon on the mount...Re: [Biofuel] Titration problems Okay, Now that we've had the sermon on the mount, circa 2004, the question still remains. If you're born again, do you have two belly buttons? Todd Swearingen Born okay the first time. - Original Message - From: Tim Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 1:27 PM Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Titration problems Ah yes, But the bible also states that your righteousness is as filthy rags. This passage is in the new testament and I'll have to look up the exact reference later. Righteousness and Religion don't count for anything. But before I further this thought you must first be a believer in God (by whatever name you call him). If you don't believe then what's the point. But if you do believe then you must certainly recall some scriptures. I read some post that stated that God did not intend for religion to be organized. But he most certainly did. In the old testament there is scripture reference stating forsake not the gathering together of yourselves as the manner of some is... meaning that people of faith should assemble together. And why should we gather together? As is stated in the new testament Faith is built from faith to faith.. which is to say that we increase in both knowledge and understanding by gathering together, much as we do here in the befoul list. We share our knowledge, gain understanding, and encourage one another. The apostle Paul also stated that things should be done in order regarding the gathering together. Much of those gathering together events were not however held in Temples but rather in homes of individuals and other places. The Church is not a building but rather it refers to the Faithful followers. The Temples are no less sacred but still only a place to gather together. No one can argue that much of the so called Christian community today is filled with hypocrites, socialites, etc...many people seeking to put forward a good face to mask their evil deeds. The scripture also states ..that where good is, evil is also present... I agree that most of what exist of religious organizations today is either a cult or cult like but not all. I will always be reluctant to stereotype anyone because I believe that there is always some good to be found within the bad (speaking of people). Our challenge today is to find someone in which we can gather together with who is indeed seeking after God and his will in our lives that we can increase our faith through association with their faith. And what if you don't believe as I believe? It doesn't matter to me. I can't save you anyway. Save you (the non-believer) from what? It doesn't matter...you don't believe. I will still pray to my God that he bless you and your house and that we may all live in peace and that we can learn to live as equals on this planet. And I can share my efforts with my neighbors (of various faiths) to bring equity to the world starting with my neighbors. None of my neighbors share the same faith but we do share this planet and I hope that we can learn together how to reap, replenish and restore what this earth has for us. May God bless you all, Best wishes, Tim Romans 2:14-15 Luc - Original Message - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 7:47 AM Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Titration problems Christopher: God is not as illogical as religion would put Him. According to the Bible, even persons who never knew of God but do the right(good)thing ARE righteous regardless. Christopher
Re: Sermon on the mount...Re: [Biofuel] Titration problems
Here are weblinks to environmental stewardship and spiritual living in Christian terms; and then weblinks for other major world religions...there are many many similarities. http://egj.lib.uidaho.edu/egj12/johnson1/ http://www.surfinthespirit.com/environment/environmental-protection.shtml http://www.asa3.org/ASA/PSCF6-95Wright.html http://www.christianecology.org/Stewardship.html Here are weblinks and other religions and environmental stewardship: http://www.acton.org/ppolicy/environment/spirituality/ http://bulletin.rec.org/bull113/clergy_urge.html http://www.mnchurches.org/media/pdfs/ecojustice/Bibliography.pdf http://environment.harvard.edu/religion/religion/islam/index.html http://environment.harvard.edu/religion/religion/judaism/projects/coejl.html http://environment.harvard.edu/religion/religion/buddhism/projects/earth_sangha.html http://environment.harvard.edu/religion/religion/confucianism/index.html http://environment.harvard.edu/religion/religion/indigenous/index.html --- Legal Eagle :-) :-) Luc - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:37 PM Subject: Sermon on the mount...Re: [Biofuel] Titration problems Okay, Now that we've had the sermon on the mount, circa 2004, the question still remains. If you're born again, do you have two belly buttons? Todd Swearingen Born okay the first time. - Original Message - From: Tim Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 1:27 PM Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Titration problems Ah yes, But the bible also states that your righteousness is as filthy rags. This passage is in the new testament and I'll have to look up the exact reference later. Righteousness and Religion don't count for anything. But before I further this thought you must first be a believer in God (by whatever name you call him). If you don't believe then what's the point. But if you do believe then you must certainly recall some scriptures. I read some post that stated that God did not intend for religion to be organized. But he most certainly did. In the old testament there is scripture reference stating forsake not the gathering together of yourselves as the manner of some is... meaning that people of faith should assemble together. And why should we gather together? As is stated in the new testament Faith is built from faith to faith.. which is to say that we increase in both knowledge and understanding by gathering together, much as we do here in the befoul list. We share our knowledge, gain understanding, and encourage one another. The apostle Paul also stated that things should be done in order regarding the gathering together. Much of those gathering together events were not however held in Temples but rather in homes of individuals and other places. The Church is not a building but rather it refers to the Faithful followers. The Temples are no less sacred but still only a place to gather together. No one can argue that much of the so called Christian community today is filled with hypocrites, socialites, etc...many people seeking to put forward a good face to mask their evil deeds. The scripture also states ..that where good is, evil is also present... I agree that most of what exist of religious organizations today is either a cult or cult like but not all. I will always be reluctant to stereotype anyone because I believe that there is always some good to be found within the bad (speaking of people). Our challenge today is to find someone in which we can gather together with who is indeed seeking after God and his will in our lives that we can increase our faith through association with their faith. And what if you don't believe as I believe? It doesn't matter to me. I can't save you anyway. Save you (the non-believer) from what? It doesn't matter...you don't believe. I will still pray to my God that he bless you and your house and that we may all live in peace and that we can learn to live as equals on this planet. And I can share my efforts with my neighbors (of various faiths) to bring equity to the world starting with my neighbors. None of my neighbors share the same faith but we do share this planet and I hope that we can learn together how to reap, replenish and restore what this earth has for us. May God bless you all, Best wishes, Tim Romans 2:14-15 Luc - Original Message - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 7:47 AM Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Titration problems Christopher: God is not as illogical as religion would put Him. According to the Bible, even persons who never knew of God but do the right(good)thing ARE righteous regardless. Christopher
Re: Sermon on the mount...Re: [Biofuel] Titration problems
LOL, another outstanding Toddism! I grew up in Houston, Texas. For those not familiar with American geography, Houston is a port city along the coast of Texas, and considered to be part of the deep south. We used to have routine visits (patrols) by the local church (division) of southern Baptists who would send small groups of dedicated parishioners (platoons) to my parents doorstep with smiling, but always different, faces, and always the same question. Have you been saved? My fathers answer, which used to make me laugh as a kid and now really makes me bust a gut, was short and sweet. He would just smile and say, Yes I have been, until now that is, from a$$s like ya'll! Somehow I think my father and you, Todd, would have gotten along just fine. AntiFossil Mike Minnesota USA * If you think you are too small to make a difference try sleeping with a mosquito. Dalai Lama * The difference between truth and fiction is that fiction must make sense or nobody will believe it. Mark Twain * - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 1:37 PM Subject: Sermon on the mount...Re: [Biofuel] Titration problems Okay, Now that we've had the sermon on the mount, circa 2004, the question still remains. If you're born again, do you have two belly buttons? Todd Swearingen Born okay the first time. - Original Message - From: Tim Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 1:27 PM Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Titration problems Ah yes, But the bible also states that your righteousness is as filthy rags. This passage is in the new testament and I'll have to look up the exact reference later. Righteousness and Religion don't count for anything. But before I further this thought you must first be a believer in God (by whatever name you call him). If you don't believe then what's the point. But if you do believe then you must certainly recall some scriptures. I read some post that stated that God did not intend for religion to be organized. But he most certainly did. In the old testament there is scripture reference stating forsake not the gathering together of yourselves as the manner of some is... meaning that people of faith should assemble together. And why should we gather together? As is stated in the new testament Faith is built from faith to faith.. which is to say that we increase in both knowledge and understanding by gathering together, much as we do here in the befoul list. We share our knowledge, gain understanding, and encourage one another. The apostle Paul also stated that things should be done in order regarding the gathering together. Much of those gathering together events were not however held in Temples but rather in homes of individuals and other places. The Church is not a building but rather it refers to the Faithful followers. The Temples are no less sacred but still only a place to gather together. No one can argue that much of the so called Christian community today is filled with hypocrites, socialites, etc...many people seeking to put forward a good face to mask their evil deeds. The scripture also states ..that where good is, evil is also present... I agree that most of what exist of religious organizations today is either a cult or cult like but not all. I will always be reluctant to stereotype anyone because I believe that there is always some good to be found within the bad (speaking of people). Our challenge today is to find someone in which we can gather together with who is indeed seeking after God and his will in our lives that we can increase our faith through association with their faith. And what if you don't believe as I believe? It doesn't matter to me. I can't save you anyway. Save you (the non-believer) from what? It doesn't matter...you don't believe. I will still pray to my God that he bless you and your house and that we may all live in peace and that we can learn to live as equals on this planet. And I can share my efforts with my neighbors (of various faiths) to bring equity to the world starting with my neighbors. None of my neighbors share the same faith but we do share this planet and I hope that we can learn together how to reap, replenish and restore what this earth has for us. May God bless you all, Best wishes, Tim Romans 2:14-15 Luc - Original Message - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 7:47 AM Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Titration problems Christopher: God is not as illogical as religion would put Him. According to the Bible, even persons who never knew of God but do the right(good)thing
Re: Sermon on the mount...Re: [Biofuel] Titration problems
The Great Work is a perfect place to start. Dream of the Earth is a bit heady, but a great read on environmental ethics http://www.ecozoicstudies.org/thomas_berry.html - Original Message - From: Phillip Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 5:38 PM Subject: Re: Sermon on the mount...Re: [Biofuel] Titration problems Here are weblinks to environmental stewardship and spiritual living in Christian terms; and then weblinks for other major world religions...there are many many similarities. http://egj.lib.uidaho.edu/egj12/johnson1/ http://www.surfinthespirit.com/environment/environmental-protection.shtml http://www.asa3.org/ASA/PSCF6-95Wright.html http://www.christianecology.org/Stewardship.html Here are weblinks and other religions and environmental stewardship: http://www.acton.org/ppolicy/environment/spirituality/ http://bulletin.rec.org/bull113/clergy_urge.html http://www.mnchurches.org/media/pdfs/ecojustice/Bibliography.pdf http://environment.harvard.edu/religion/religion/islam/index.html http://environment.harvard.edu/religion/religion/judaism/projects/coejl.html http://environment.harvard.edu/religion/religion/buddhism/projects/earth_sangha.html http://environment.harvard.edu/religion/religion/confucianism/index.html http://environment.harvard.edu/religion/religion/indigenous/index.html --- Legal Eagle :-) :-) Luc - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:37 PM Subject: Sermon on the mount...Re: [Biofuel] Titration problems Okay, Now that we've had the sermon on the mount, circa 2004, the question still remains. If you're born again, do you have two belly buttons? Todd Swearingen Born okay the first time. - Original Message - From: Tim Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 1:27 PM Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Titration problems Ah yes, But the bible also states that your righteousness is as filthy rags. This passage is in the new testament and I'll have to look up the exact reference later. Righteousness and Religion don't count for anything. But before I further this thought you must first be a believer in God (by whatever name you call him). If you don't believe then what's the point. But if you do believe then you must certainly recall some scriptures. I read some post that stated that God did not intend for religion to be organized. But he most certainly did. In the old testament there is scripture reference stating forsake not the gathering together of yourselves as the manner of some is... meaning that people of faith should assemble together. And why should we gather together? As is stated in the new testament Faith is built from faith to faith.. which is to say that we increase in both knowledge and understanding by gathering together, much as we do here in the befoul list. We share our knowledge, gain understanding, and encourage one another. The apostle Paul also stated that things should be done in order regarding the gathering together. Much of those gathering together events were not however held in Temples but rather in homes of individuals and other places. The Church is not a building but rather it refers to the Faithful followers. The Temples are no less sacred but still only a place to gather together. No one can argue that much of the so called Christian community today is filled with hypocrites, socialites, etc...many people seeking to put forward a good face to mask their evil deeds. The scripture also states ..that where good is, evil is also present... I agree that most of what exist of religious organizations today is either a cult or cult like but not all. I will always be reluctant to stereotype anyone because I believe that there is always some good to be found within the bad (speaking of people). Our challenge today is to find someone in which we can gather together with who is indeed seeking after God and his will in our lives that we can increase our faith through association with their faith. And what if you don't believe as I believe? It doesn't matter to me. I can't save you anyway. Save you (the non-believer) from what? It doesn't matter...you don't believe. I will still pray to my God that he bless you and your house and that we may all live in peace and that we can learn to live as equals on this planet. And I can share my efforts with my neighbors (of various faiths) to bring equity to the world starting with my neighbors. None of my neighbors share the same faith but we do share this planet and I hope that we can learn together how to reap, replenish and restore what this earth has for us. May God bless you all, Best wishes, Tim Romans 2:14-15 Luc - Original Message - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 7:47 AM Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Titration