[Biofuel] US House may prevent states from protecting food supply
http://environmentalcommons.org/federal-preemption-2007.html Environmental Commons: Legislation Tracker Follows State Food Bills US House may prevent states from protecting food supply by Britt Bailey Monday May 28th, 2007 9:03 AM The United States House of Representatives Committee on Agriculture has begun the process of writing the 2007 Farm Bill. Of grave concern is language added and approved by the Subcommittee on Livestock, Dairy and Poultry that preempts state restrictions of foods or agricultural products deregulated by the USDA. House Subcommittee Approves Language Preempting State Local Restriction of Genetically Modified Organisms (GMOs) and Other Questionable Foods The United States House of Representatives Committee on Agriculture has begun the process of writing the 2007 Farm Bill. Of grave concern is language added and approved by the Subcommittee on Livestock, Dairy and Poultry that preempts state restrictions of foods or agricultural products deregulated by the USDA. The added language reads, no State or locality shall make any law prohibiting the use in commerce of an article that the Secretary of Agriculture has inspected and passed; or determined to be of non-regulated status. The preemption language has been traced to Iowa Representative and Subcommittee Chair, Leonard Boswell. His intention is to prohibit state and local policies banning the sale of products approved by USDA and other regulatory agencies. The broad scope of the language would affect state and local prohibitions on the cultivation of genetically modified crops, bans on the sale of rBGH milk, and the outlawing of foie gras for starters. At a time of pervasive food contamination and consumer displeasure with the social, ethical, and environmental aspects of food processes and production, the addition of a few lines tucked into an immense bill could weaken carefully adopted consumer protections. If the preemption language is adopted into the final Farm Bill, some of the state laws that may be affected include: Genetically Modified Foods: California and Arkansas are currently debating prohibitions on the growing GMO rice. The major rice growing states are concerned after the 2006 announcement that several un-approved varieties of engineered rice contaminated rice crops resulting in major financial losses for US farmers. Four California counties and two cities have adopted prohibitions on the growing of genetically modified crops in order to protect their organic and conventional foods. rBGH Milk: In 2006, Vermont's Agricultural Secretary, Steve Kerr, urged dairy farmers to stop using rBGH, or recombinant bovine growth hormone, in dairy cows. In addition, New York City is in the process of considering a ban on the sale of rBGH milk. Foie Gras: On grounds of inhumane treatment, the City of Chicago banned the sale of foie gras in restaurants. California has banned the force-feeding of birds to produce the product, ending the practice by 2012. The preemption language raises concerns that states would be barred from taking action when a food safety threats arise. For example, states could be barred from calling for recalls or prohibiting the sale of tainted meats, peanut butter, or other foods that have passed USDA inspection. Advocates favoring the preemption language include United Egg Producers, National Pork Producers, National Milk Producers Federation, and the National Cattleman's Beef Association. The Farm Bill will be voted on by the House Committee on Agriculture before going to the House floor and then on to the Senate. To take action to oppose this disastrous preemption language, send a letter and/or contact: 1. The House Agricultural Committee, agriculture [at] mail.house.gov. 2. Your House Representative, http://www.house.gov/writerep/ 3. Your Senator, http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm Stay updated about the 2007 Farm Bill as it moves through the House of Representatives, http://agriculture.house.gov/inside/2007FarmBill.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] [Norton AntiSpam] Re: Meth test (was Off topic)
Thank you Joe. The determination by mass will give you a more precise idea of the methyl ester content. With best Jan Warnqvist - Original Message - From: Joe Street To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 7:59 PM Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [Biofuel] Meth test (was Off topic) Hey Jan; Let me take the chance to thank you again for your contributions. Also I'd like to let you know how WE have evolved your idea. Me and this other dude in town ( who might be lurking herelol - it was his idea actually) have taken to doing some kind of variation on your idea which helps us in the middle of the process. I know you are talking about testing clean, washed and dried fuel, but check this out; We take a sample ( I have a small test tube so I use 3 ml of fuel and 27 ml meoh) after the reaction but before washing. I know this contains catalyst, soap, water and whatever BUT when I stir it up, any unreacted oil settles out very quickly and gives me a gauge of how close I came to a complete reaction. I can even measure the percentage of unreacted oil and use this to determine how much catalyst and methanol to hit the reactor with in order to complete the reaction. The unreacted stuff is treated as neutral oil when determining catalyst and methanol amounts ( ie 12% meoh v/v and 4.9 g/l koh) If I am good and the reaction was very complete the first time, then only a little white powder (soap/catalyst?) settles in the bottom and the rest is clear and bright. This is more useful than a pop bottle wash test IMHO. best regards Joe Jan Warnqvist wrote: Dear all. I am very flattered that my methanol method had so much attention. Here is a development of the method: Equipment needed for the analysis 1.. One 250 ml separatory funnel 2.. One 400 ml beaker (Figure 2) 3.. One magnetic stirrer 4.. Balancer with 0,05g acc. 5.. One 50 ml narrowed neck E-flask Chemicals for the analysis 1. Water free methanol, min 225 g 2. FAME with water content less than 500 ppm, clear, bright and without visible impurities, min 25 g Take the clean beaker and put exactly 225 g of methanol in it. Then add exactly 25g of the biodiesel. Stir the fluids on the stirrer for 2 minutes. Take the beaker off the stirrer ans pour the content into the separation funnel.Take the clean e-flask to the balancer and tarate with the flask. Let any oil phase separate out from the biodiesel/methanol phase and put it in the e-flask. Weigh the content and calculate the result: 1 - m1/m2 = m3 where m1 is the mass of the biodiesel m2 is the amount of methanol m3 is how much of the biodiesel put in that is consisting from methyl esters. The method will show huch much of the material by mass that is soluble in methanol. This includes mostl mono- and diglycerides. The residue consists therefore mostly from unreacted oil. With best Jan Warnqvist - Original Message - From: Joe Street To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Newbie Seeking Diesel Van Recommendations Hi Ray; Sorry for the delay. Try this forum for more information on Delicas. http://delica.ca/forum/index.php Joe raymond greeley wrote: I would like to see this van, what did you send it in. I have not been able to open ray -- Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 15:48:02 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Newbie Seeking Diesel Van Recommendations Look for a mitsubishi delica. A buddy of mine just imported one with low miles from Japan. He loves it. Joe Luke Kareklas wrote: Hello All, I am a Kid's Birthday Party Entertainer, as well as a Juggler, Magician, and Balloon Guy. I live in the Midwest, and have all 4 seasons during the year, if this is a helpful bit of information. Lately my entertainment business has gotten really busy and it's come time for me to buy a larger vehicle. I have been a fan of alternative fuels for years, but never pursued a diesel vehicle. I would like recommendations on what type of deisel van would you recommend that would most easily transfer over to a SVO, WVO, or biodiesel system for me to drive? I am looking for a 1/2 or 3/4 ton van, not really a minivan type of vehicle. Again, I am naive and new to all this and hope your thoughts will help ground me and get me pointed in the right direction. I guess I have to go buy a diesel vehicle before I can get moving on SVO, WVO, or Biodiesel fueling, right? Thank you very much. Luke Luke Kareklas
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Re: [Biofuel] US House may prevent states from protecting food supply
Hello Keith and List, Thanks for the post. Actually this is really good news. As oil costs continue to rise and the US corp ag industry begins to die - MOST food will go back to being LOCAL In the Northeast, where I live, there is already a high demand for local foods of all types. Language listed below will only intensify the demand. Have a great day Tony Marzolino Berkshire NY Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://environmentalcommons.org/federal-preemption-2007.html Environmental Commons: Legislation Tracker Follows State Food Bills US House may prevent states from protecting food supply by Britt Bailey Monday May 28th, 2007 9:03 AM The United States House of Representatives Committee on Agriculture has begun the process of writing the 2007 Farm Bill. Of grave concern is language added and approved by the Subcommittee on Livestock, Dairy and Poultry that preempts state restrictions of foods or agricultural products deregulated by the USDA. House Subcommittee Approves Language Preempting State Local Restriction of Genetically Modified Organisms (GMOs) and Other Questionable Foods The United States House of Representatives Committee on Agriculture has begun the process of writing the 2007 Farm Bill. Of grave concern is language added and approved by the Subcommittee on Livestock, Dairy and Poultry that preempts state restrictions of foods or agricultural products deregulated by the USDA. The added language reads, no State or locality shall make any law prohibiting the use in commerce of an article that the Secretary of Agriculture has inspected and passed; or determined to be of non-regulated status. The preemption language has been traced to Iowa Representative and Subcommittee Chair, Leonard Boswell. His intention is to prohibit state and local policies banning the sale of products approved by USDA and other regulatory agencies. The broad scope of the language would affect state and local prohibitions on the cultivation of genetically modified crops, bans on the sale of rBGH milk, and the outlawing of foie gras for starters. At a time of pervasive food contamination and consumer displeasure with the social, ethical, and environmental aspects of food processes and production, the addition of a few lines tucked into an immense bill could weaken carefully adopted consumer protections. If the preemption language is adopted into the final Farm Bill, some of the state laws that may be affected include: Genetically Modified Foods: California and Arkansas are currently debating prohibitions on the growing GMO rice. The major rice growing states are concerned after the 2006 announcement that several un-approved varieties of engineered rice contaminated rice crops resulting in major financial losses for US farmers. Four California counties and two cities have adopted prohibitions on the growing of genetically modified crops in order to protect their organic and conventional foods. rBGH Milk: In 2006, Vermont's Agricultural Secretary, Steve Kerr, urged dairy farmers to stop using rBGH, or recombinant bovine growth hormone, in dairy cows. In addition, New York City is in the process of considering a ban on the sale of rBGH milk. Foie Gras: On grounds of inhumane treatment, the City of Chicago banned the sale of foie gras in restaurants. California has banned the force-feeding of birds to produce the product, ending the practice by 2012. The preemption language raises concerns that states would be barred from taking action when a food safety threats arise. For example, states could be barred from calling for recalls or prohibiting the sale of tainted meats, peanut butter, or other foods that have passed USDA inspection. Advocates favoring the preemption language include United Egg Producers, National Pork Producers, National Milk Producers Federation, and the National Cattleman's Beef Association. The Farm Bill will be voted on by the House Committee on Agriculture before going to the House floor and then on to the Senate. To take action to oppose this disastrous preemption language, send a letter and/or contact: 1. The House Agricultural Committee, agriculture [at] mail.house.gov. 2. Your House Representative, http://www.house.gov/writerep/ 3. Your Senator, http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm Stay updated about the 2007 Farm Bill as it moves through the House of Representatives, http://agriculture.house.gov/inside/2007FarmBill.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ - Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: [MCS-Canada] Fluoride can kill...................
ROFL is it a waiver? LOL maybe one day that'll be the norm. They'll have another one when you register to vote. Waive your rights or you can't vote buddy. LOL Joe Kirk McLoren wrote: LOL yeah - when you sign up for water and trash you get a paper from the EPA. Kirk */Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Huh? The city warns its people not to drink the water it provides for them? Now I've heard everything. How many people have sued for damages I wonder. That makes about as much sense as the notion of trusting officials we elect to represent our interests. Your explanation makes sense. Inhalation, not skin adsorption. Yes there's a lot of water going by and the heat helps liberate the disolved gas. Joe Kirk McLoren wrote: I think in the case of chlorine it is inhaled in the shower. The amount drunk is small in most peoples case as many people prefer bottled beverages be they juice or soda drinks. I know in Umatilla Oregon just drinking the water is enough to cause fluorosis. CIty water is 6ppm. They encourage pregnant women and children not to drink the water. Kirk */Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Hey Kirk; It's this last bit that has got my attention; Kirk McLoren wrote: SNIP Lester was shattered. He couldn't understand it. Yet there was a reason. Despite taking care to drink only bottled water, Lester didn't know that *much more of the pollution-laced tap water is absorbed through the skin from bathing and washing clothes. * Poor Lester. *Although almost all exposure to waterborne contaminants is known to occur via dermal absorption, no studies have ever been done to determine the toxicity of pollution scrubber liquor the fluoride used in water fluoridation schemes. * Now I have heard this several times over the last little while with regard to chlorine in tap water. It doesn't make sense to me that my body would adsorb more chlorine (or flourine or any other toxin) from water through skin contact than by drinking it. When I drink water the entire amount goes inside and has to be processed before any of it comes out again. The internal linings have evolved to be highly adsorbing and I'm guessing that it is moreso than the skin. I'd like to see the proof about this claim. Joe ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48518/*http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/;_ylc=X3oDMTE3NWsyMDd2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDY2FyLWZpbmRlcg--%20 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Sucker-punch spam http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49981/*http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49981/*http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and
[Biofuel] CHINA HAS A SOLUTION FOR THE FDA's PROBLEM
CHINA HAS A SOLUTION FOR THE FDA's PROBLEM By Byron J. Richards, CCN http://www.newswithviews.com/Richards/byron32.htm May 30, 2007 NewsWithViews.com The penalty in China is death, in America its business as usual. Zheng Xiaoyu, the former head of Chinaâs FDA, was sentenced to death for accepting $832,000 in drug company bribes and for dereliction of duty. Like China, our country is in the middle of a drug and food safety crisis. Why is FDA Commissioner Andrew von Eschenbach, M.D. getting a free pass? Why did the Senate just pass legislation (S.1082) that gives von Eschenbach significantly more power to do whatever he pleases? And exactly what is it that von Eschenbach is doing? The Next Vioxx On June 6, 2007, Henry Waxman (D-CA), Chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform http://oversight.house.gov/story.asp?ID=1325 will haul in Andrew von Eschenbach to testify on why the FDA failed to warn Americans of the extreme cardiovascular danger and increased risk of death from taking Avandia, a 3 billion-a-year blockbuster diabetes drug made by GlaxoSmithKline. Statistics that were primarily obtained from GlaxoSmithKlineâs own research data predict that 35,000 people needlessly died taking Avandia last year and the FDA was fully aware of the risks and chose to ignore them. In fact, the problem only came to public view because one independent researcher pursued the investigation and published his findings in the New England Journal of Medicine. This is the FDAâs job, why do we need citizen watchdogs to do the work instead? It is certain that during Von Eschenbachâs testimony he will speak out of both sides of his mouth and cover the FDAâs ineptitude and deceit. He is likely to blame a lack of FDA funding for the problems. In reality, the FDA is not at all as incompetent and under funded as they seem. The truth of the matter is that the FDA does exactly what they want. The FDA spends its time, energy, and money on managementâs priorities. It is hard for some to grasp that safety of drugs or safety of the food supply is not the top FDA management priority. In the case of Avandia, Americans are being needlessly killed as a result of FDA management decisions. These decisions preserve the profits of drug companies and further the myth that drugs are the answer to our health problems. Do not be misled, FDA actions are intentional. The timing couldnât be worse for the FDA as Waxman is preparing the House version (HR.1561) of the recently passed Senate drug safety bill (S.1082). The Senate version is a fake safety bill paid for by Big Pharma. Will the House follow along or will they put some real teeth in the legislation? How Does One Define Dereliction of Duty? The dictionary defines it as a deliberate neglect of duty or obligations. Certainly, Avandia is a case in point. However, Avandia problems are the tip of the FDA iceberg. Anyone caring to look will find a rabbit hole so deep and so full of stench that it is virtually impossible to comprehend. The story is so bad that it falls into the category of not believable. Under the leadership of Andrew von Eschenbach collusion with the industries the FDA is supposed to regulate has reached an all time high. This reckless behavior has resulted in deaths and injuries to hundreds of thousands of Americans, all for the profit of drug companies at the expense of human health. A case in point is the antibiotic Ketek, which the FDA approved for broad applications KNOWING it was going to injure children. Von Eschenbach even threatened FDA scientists who didnât see the Ketek issue his way. Then there is the case of the atypical antipsychotic Zyprexa, which the FDA approved for use in adult schizophrenics even though the FDA knew the drug caused obesity and diabetes. The FDA sits around allowing billions of dollars of this drug (mostly at taxpayer expense) to be given to children for mild behavioral issues, an unapproved use that leads to extremely poor health and disease. Then there is the Trasylol scandal, a very expensive cardiovascular bypass drug that needlessly sentences 15,000 Americans per year to premature death within the next 5 years. When Bayer was caught directly lying to the FDA regarding Trasylolâs dangers, von Eschenbach deflected legal liability http://www.newswithviews.com/Richards/byron19.htm for Bayer by doing virtually nothing and leaving the drug on the market. These are just a few examples, there are unfortunately many more. The common theme is that FDA management intentionally hides risks of drugs so that drug companies can turn them into blockbusters, oftentimes selling them in ways that were never approved in the first place. As chilling safety problems are reported to the FDA the organization fails to act, partly so it wonât look bad for approving the drugs in the first place, partly to preserve billions in profit for
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[Biofuel] Free Veggie Oil In Ozark Alabama
Hey guys I have been dabbling into getting into Bio diesel for some time. I know its super easy and very economical but I just haven't been able to get it going very well. I couldn't seem to get a steady supply of oil. Now that I have somewhere probably between 150-250 gals of used oil I have been informed by my local govt. I'm not zoned to produce it. I live just north of Dothan Al. in Ozark. I've been informed that I need to get it gone by this weekend. If anyone wants it let me know. My E-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Label the subject as I WANT USED OIL so I don't accidentally delete it, also include your phone number so I can contact you. I also have a couple of hot water heater tanks with legs welded on I was going to use as processing tanks. I had a friend that said he wanted this a month ago but has not gotten back to me now I just want it out of my way. I have too many other projects to worry about right now and don't want any problems from the city. the oil is in 5 gal containers so bring a good sized trailer and or something to pump it out. I would much rather give this to someone who could use it than pour it into the city recycling tank. Virgil ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Free Veggie Oil In Ozark Alabama
Tell the authorities you are storing food. As far as I know there is no legislation anywhere against that. Don't call it waste oil. Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys I have been dabbling into getting into Bio diesel for some time. I know its super easy and very economical but I just haven't been able to get it going very well. I couldn't seem to get a steady supply of oil. Now that I have somewhere probably between 150-250 gals of used oil I have been informed by my local govt. I'm not zoned to produce it. I live just north of Dothan Al. in Ozark. I've been informed that I need to get it gone by this weekend. If anyone wants it let me know. My E-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Label the subject as I WANT USED OIL so I don't accidentally delete it, also include your phone number so I can contact you. I also have a couple of hot water heater tanks with legs welded on I was going to use as processing tanks. I had a friend that said he wanted this a month ago but has not gotten back to me now I just want it out of my way. I have too many other projects to worry about right now and don't want any problems from the city. the oil is in 5 gal containers so bring a good sized trailer and or something to pump it out. I would much rather give this to someone who could use it than pour it into the city recycling tank. Virgil ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Big Brother extends his reach
It just keeps creeping in. Always for a good cause http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-mexico25may25,0,7011563.story?coll=la-home-center Mexico to boost tapping of phones and e-mail with U.S. aid Calderon is seeking to expand monitoring of drug gangs; Washington also may have access to the data. By Sam Enriquez, Times Staff Writer May 25, 2007 Related- LA PLAZA: News, observations and links about Latin America from Times correspondents MEXICO CITY Mexico is expanding its ability to tap telephone calls and e-mail using money from the U.S. government, a move that underlines how the country's conservative government is increasingly willing to cooperate with the United States on law enforcement. The expansion comes as President Felipe Calderon is pushing to amend the Mexican Constitution to allow officials to tap phones without a judge's approval in some cases. Calderon argues that the government needs the authority to combat drug gangs, which have killed hundreds of people this year. Mexican authorities for years have been able to wiretap most telephone conversations and tap into e-mail, but the new $3-million Communications Intercept System being installed by Mexico's Federal Investigative Agency will expand their reach. The system will allow authorities to track cellphone users as they travel, according to contract specifications. It includes extensive storage capacity and will allow authorities to identify callers by voice. The system, scheduled to begin operation this month, was paid for by the U.S. State Department and sold by Verint Systems Inc., a politically well-connected firm based in Melville, N.Y., that specializes in electronic surveillance. Although information about the system is publicly available, the matter has drawn little attention so far in the United States or Mexico. The modernization program is described in U.S. government documents, including the contract specifications, reviewed by The Times. They suggest that Washington could have access to information derived from the surveillance. Officials of both governments declined to comment on that possibility. It is a government of Mexico operation funded by the U.S., said Susan Pittman, of the State Department's Bureau of International Narcotics and Law Enforcement Affairs. Queries should be directed to the Mexican government, she said. Calderon's office declined to comment. But the contract specifications say the system is designed to allow both governments to disseminate timely and accurate, actionable information to each country's respective federal, state, local, private and international partners. Calderon has been lobbying for more authority to use electronic surveillance against drug violence, which has threatened his ability to govern. Despite federal troops posted in nine Mexican states, the violence continues as rival smugglers fight over shipping routes to the U.S.-Mexico border, as well as for control of Mexican port cities and inland marijuana and poppy growing regions. Nonetheless, the prospect of U.S. involvement in surveillance could be extremely sensitive in Mexico, where the United States historically has been viewed by many as a bullying and intrusive neighbor. U.S. government agents working in Mexico maintain a low profile to spare their government hosts any political fallout. It's unclear how broad a net the new surveillance system will cast: Mexicans speak regularly by phone, for example, with millions of relatives living in the U.S. Those conversations appear to be fair game for both governments. Legal experts say that prosecutors with access to Mexican wiretaps could use the information in U.S. courts. U.S. Supreme Court decisions have held that 4th Amendment protections against illegal wiretaps do not apply outside the United States, particularly if the surveillance is conducted by another country, Georgetown University law professor David Cole said. Mexico's telecommunications monopoly, Telmex, controlled by Carlos Slim Helu, the world's second-wealthiest individual, has not received official notice of the new system, which will intercept its electronic signals, a spokeswoman said this week. Telmex is a firm that always complies with laws and rules set by the Mexican government, she said. Calderon recently asked Mexico's Congress to amend the country's constitution and allow federal prosecutors free rein to conduct searches and secretly record conversations among people suspected of what the government defines as serious crimes. His proposal would eliminate the current legal requirement that prosecutors gain approval from a judge before installing any wiretap, the vetting process that will for now govern use of the new system's intercepts. Calderon says the legal changes are needed to turn the tide in the battle against the drug gangs. The purpose is to create swift investigative
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Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: [MCS-Canada] Fluoride can kill...................
we finally got moved in to our house, and i never got any notices in the utility bill. my guess is that- given the fact i can see the town's well, tower, and pump shack from my driveway we dont get chemically treated water... From: Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: [MCS-Canada] Fluoride can kill... Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 10:37:27 -0400 ROFL is it a waiver? LOL maybe one day that'll be the norm. They'll have another one when you register to vote. Waive your rights or you can't vote buddy. LOL Joe Kirk McLoren wrote: LOL yeah - when you sign up for water and trash you get a paper from the EPA. Kirk */Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Huh? The city warns its people not to drink the water it provides for them? Now I've heard everything. How many people have sued for damages I wonder. That makes about as much sense as the notion of trusting officials we elect to represent our interests. Your explanation makes sense. Inhalation, not skin adsorption. Yes there's a lot of water going by and the heat helps liberate the disolved gas. Joe Kirk McLoren wrote: I think in the case of chlorine it is inhaled in the shower. The amount drunk is small in most peoples case as many people prefer bottled beverages be they juice or soda drinks. I know in Umatilla Oregon just drinking the water is enough to cause fluorosis. CIty water is 6ppm. They encourage pregnant women and children not to drink the water. Kirk */Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Hey Kirk; It's this last bit that has got my attention; Kirk McLoren wrote: SNIP Lester was shattered. He couldn't understand it. Yet there was a reason. Despite taking care to drink only bottled water, Lester didn't know that *much more of the pollution-laced tap water is absorbed through the skin from bathing and washing clothes. * Poor Lester. *Although almost all exposure to waterborne contaminants is known to occur via dermal absorption, no studies have ever been done to determine the toxicity of pollution scrubber liquor the fluoride used in water fluoridation schemes. * Now I have heard this several times over the last little while with regard to chlorine in tap water. It doesn't make sense to me that my body would adsorb more chlorine (or flourine or any other toxin) from water through skin contact than by drinking it. When I drink water the entire amount goes inside and has to be processed before any of it comes out again. The internal linings have evolved to be highly adsorbing and I'm guessing that it is moreso than the skin. I'd like to see the proof about this claim. Joe ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48518/*http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/;_ylc=X3oDMTE3NWsyMDd2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDY2FyLWZpbmRlcg--%20 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Sucker-punch spam http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49981/*http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta.
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: [MCS-Canada] Fluoride can kill...................
the fluoride in our water isnt from treatment The well is toxic Jason Mier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we finally got moved in to our house, and i never got any notices in the utility bill. my guess is that- given the fact i can see the town's well, tower, and pump shack from my driveway we dont get chemically treated water... From: Joe Street Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: [MCS-Canada] Fluoride can kill... Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 10:37:27 -0400 ROFL is it a waiver? LOL maybe one day that'll be the norm. They'll have another one when you register to vote. Waive your rights or you can't vote buddy. LOL Joe Kirk McLoren wrote: LOL yeah - when you sign up for water and trash you get a paper from the EPA. Kirk */Joe Street /* wrote: Huh? The city warns its people not to drink the water it provides for them? Now I've heard everything. How many people have sued for damages I wonder. That makes about as much sense as the notion of trusting officials we elect to represent our interests. Your explanation makes sense. Inhalation, not skin adsorption. Yes there's a lot of water going by and the heat helps liberate the disolved gas. Joe Kirk McLoren wrote: I think in the case of chlorine it is inhaled in the shower. The amount drunk is small in most peoples case as many people prefer bottled beverages be they juice or soda drinks. I know in Umatilla Oregon just drinking the water is enough to cause fluorosis. CIty water is 6ppm. They encourage pregnant women and children not to drink the water. Kirk */Joe Street /* wrote: Hey Kirk; It's this last bit that has got my attention; Kirk McLoren wrote: SNIP Lester was shattered. He couldn't understand it. Yet there was a reason. Despite taking care to drink only bottled water, Lester didn't know that *much more of the pollution-laced tap water is absorbed through the skin from bathing and washing clothes. * Poor Lester. *Although almost all exposure to waterborne contaminants is known to occur via dermal absorption, no studies have ever been done to determine the toxicity of pollution scrubber liquor the fluoride used in water fluoridation schemes. * Now I have heard this several times over the last little while with regard to chlorine in tap water. It doesn't make sense to me that my body would adsorb more chlorine (or flourine or any other toxin) from water through skin contact than by drinking it. When I drink water the entire amount goes inside and has to be processed before any of it comes out again. The internal linings have evolved to be highly adsorbing and I'm guessing that it is moreso than the skin. I'd like to see the proof about this claim. Joe ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: [MCS-Canada] Fluoride can kill...................
My town water is unchlorinated untreated water off some sort of of alpine glacier. They test the heck out of it for organics weekly and it's always come up good. People drive here from miles around to fill their drinking water containers. And one bottled water company uses town water as their source. However, there are alot of mines around here -- a federal superfund site about 3 miles below town, and according to some people, alot more that should be. I wonder how much heavy metals are leached into the drinking water -- most of the mines are below the source, but I don't know if ALL of them are. It would be interesting to send a sample in for testing. Z On 5/30/07, Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the fluoride in our water isnt from treatment The well is toxic *Jason Mier [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: we finally got moved in to our house, and i never got any notices in the utility bill. my guess is that- given the fact i can see the town's well, tower, and pump shack from my driveway we dont get chemically treated water... From: Joe Street Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: [MCS-Canada] Fluoride can kill... Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 10:37:27 -0400 ROFL is it a waiver? LOL maybe one day that'll be the norm. They'll have another one when you register to vote. Waive your rights or you can't vote buddy. LOL Joe Kirk McLoren wrote: LOL yeah - when you sign up for water and trash you get a paper from the EPA. Kirk */Joe Street /* wrote: Huh? The city warns its people not to drink the water it provides for them? Now I've heard everything. How many people have sued for damages I wonder. That makes about as much sense as the notion of trusting officials we elect to represent our interests. Your explanation makes sense. Inhalation, not skin adsorption. Yes there's a lot of water going by and the heat helps liberate the disolved gas. Joe Kirk McLoren wrote: I think in the case of chlorine it is inhaled in the shower. The amount drunk is small in most peoples case as many people prefer bottled beverages be they juice or soda drinks. I know in Umatilla Oregon just drinking the water is enough to cause fluorosis. CIty water is 6ppm. They encourage pregnant women and children not to drink the water. Kirk */Joe Street /* wrote: Hey Kirk; It's this last bit that has got my attention; Kirk McLoren wrote: SNIP Lester was shattered. He couldn't understand it. Yet there was a reason. Despite taking care to drink only bottled water, Lester didn't know that *much more of the pollution-laced tap water is absorbed through the skin from bathing and washing clothes. * Poor Lester. *Although almost all exposure to waterborne contaminants is known to occur via dermal absorption, no studies have ever been done to determine the toxicity of pollution scrubber liquor the fluoride used in water fluoridation schemes. * Now I have heard this several times over the last little while with regard to chlorine in tap water. It doesn't make sense to me that my body would adsorb more chlorine (or flourine or any other toxin) from water through skin contact than by drinking it. When I drink water the entire amount goes inside and has to be processed before any of it comes out again. The internal linings have evolved to be highly adsorbing and I'm guessing that it is moreso than the skin. I'd like to see the proof about this claim. Joe ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
