Thank you Joe. The determination by mass will give you a more precise idea of the methyl ester content. With best Jan Warnqvist ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Street To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 7:59 PM Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [Biofuel] Meth test (was Off topic)
Hey Jan; Let me take the chance to thank you again for your contributions. Also I'd like to let you know how WE have evolved your idea. Me and this other dude in town ( who might be lurking here....lol - it was his idea actually) have taken to doing some kind of variation on your idea which helps us in the middle of the process. I know you are talking about testing clean, washed and dried fuel, but check this out; We take a sample ( I have a small test tube so I use 3 ml of fuel and 27 ml meoh) after the reaction but before washing. I know this contains catalyst, soap, water and whatever BUT when I stir it up, any unreacted oil settles out very quickly and gives me a gauge of how close I came to a complete reaction. I can even measure the percentage of unreacted oil and use this to determine how much catalyst and methanol to hit the reactor with in order to complete the reaction. The unreacted stuff is treated as neutral oil when determining catalyst and methanol amounts ( ie 12% meoh v/v and 4.9 g/l koh) If I am good and the reaction was very complete the first time, then only a little white powder (soap/catalyst?) settles in the bottom and the rest is clear and bright. This is more useful than a pop bottle wash test IMHO. best regards Joe Jan Warnqvist wrote: Dear all. I am very flattered that my methanol method had so much attention. Here is a development of the method: Equipment needed for the analysis 1.. One 250 ml separatory funnel 2.. One 400 ml beaker (Figure 2) 3.. One magnetic stirrer 4.. Balancer with 0,05g acc. 5.. One 50 ml narrowed neck E-flask Chemicals for the analysis 1. Water free methanol, min 225 g 2. FAME with water content less than 500 ppm, clear, bright and without visible impurities, min 25 g Take the clean beaker and put exactly 225 g of methanol in it. Then add exactly 25g of the biodiesel. Stir the fluids on the stirrer for 2 minutes. Take the beaker off the stirrer ans pour the content into the separation funnel.Take the clean e-flask to the balancer and tarate with the flask. Let any oil phase separate out from the biodiesel/methanol phase and put it in the e-flask. Weigh the content and calculate the result: 1 - m1/m2 = m3 where m1 is the mass of the biodiesel m2 is the amount of methanol m3 is how much of the biodiesel put in that is consisting from methyl esters. The method will show huch much of the material by mass that is soluble in methanol. This includes mostl mono- and diglycerides. The residue consists therefore mostly from unreacted oil. With best Jan Warnqvist ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Street To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Newbie Seeking Diesel Van Recommendations Hi Ray; Sorry for the delay. Try this forum for more information on Delicas. http://delica.ca/forum/index.php Joe raymond greeley wrote: I would like to see this van, what did you send it in. I have not been able to open ray ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 15:48:02 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Newbie Seeking Diesel Van Recommendations Look for a mitsubishi delica. A buddy of mine just imported one with low miles from Japan. He loves it. Joe Luke Kareklas wrote: Hello All, I am a Kid's Birthday Party Entertainer, as well as a Juggler, Magician, and "Balloon Guy." I live in the Midwest, and have all 4 seasons during the year, if this is a helpful bit of information. Lately my entertainment business has gotten really busy and it's come time for me to buy a larger vehicle. I have been a fan of alternative fuels for years, but never pursued a diesel vehicle. I would like recommendations on what type of deisel van would you recommend that would most easily transfer over to a SVO, WVO, or biodiesel system for me to drive? I am looking for a 1/2 or 3/4 ton van, not really a "minivan" type of vehicle. Again, I am naive and new to all this and hope your thoughts will help ground me and get me pointed in the right direction. I guess I have to go buy a diesel vehicle before I can get moving on SVO, WVO, or Biodiesel fueling, right? Thank you very much. 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