Thank you Joe.
The determination by mass will give you a more precise idea of the methyl ester 
content.
With best
Jan Warnqvist
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Joe Street 
  To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 7:59 PM
  Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [Biofuel] Meth test (was Off topic)


  Hey Jan;

  Let me take the chance to thank you again for your contributions.  Also I'd 
like to let you know how WE have evolved your idea.  Me and this other dude in 
town ( who might be lurking here....lol  - it was his idea actually) have taken 
to doing some kind of variation on your idea which helps us in the middle of 
the process.  I know you are talking about testing clean, washed and dried 
fuel, but check this out;  We take a sample ( I have a small test tube so I use 
3 ml of fuel and 27 ml meoh) after the reaction but before washing.  I know 
this contains catalyst, soap, water and whatever BUT when I stir it up, any 
unreacted oil settles out very quickly and gives me a gauge of how close I came 
to a complete reaction.  I can even measure the percentage of unreacted oil and 
use this to determine how much catalyst and methanol to hit the reactor with in 
order to complete the reaction. The unreacted stuff is treated as neutral oil 
when determining catalyst and methanol amounts ( ie 12% meoh v/v and 4.9 g/l 
koh)  If I am good and the reaction was very complete the first time, then only 
a little white powder (soap/catalyst?) settles in the bottom and the rest is 
clear and bright.  This is more useful than a pop bottle wash test IMHO.

  best regards
  Joe

  Jan Warnqvist wrote:

    Dear all. I am very flattered that my methanol method had so much 
attention. Here is a development of the method:
    Equipment needed for the analysis

      1.. One 250 ml separatory funnel 
      2.. One 400 ml beaker (Figure 2) 
      3.. One magnetic stirrer 
      4.. Balancer with 0,05g acc. 
      5.. One 50 ml  narrowed neck E-flask 

    Chemicals for the analysis

    1. Water free methanol, min 225 g
    2. FAME with water content less than  500 ppm, clear, bright and without 
visible impurities, min 25 g

    Take the clean beaker and put exactly 225 g of methanol in it. Then add 
exactly 25g of the biodiesel. Stir the fluids on the stirrer for 2 minutes. 
Take the beaker off the stirrer ans pour the content into the separation 
funnel.Take the clean e-flask to the balancer and tarate with the flask. Let 
any oil phase separate out from the biodiesel/methanol phase and put it in the  
e-flask. Weigh the content and calculate the result:

    1 -  m1/m2 = m3
    where m1 is the mass of the biodiesel
    m2 is the amount of methanol
    m3 is how much of the biodiesel put in that is consisting from methyl 
esters.
    The method will show huch much of the material by mass that is soluble in 
methanol. This includes mostl mono- and diglycerides. The residue consists 
therefore mostly from unreacted oil.

    With best
    Jan Warnqvist
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Joe Street 
      To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
      Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 6:22 PM
      Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Newbie Seeking Diesel Van Recommendations


      Hi Ray;

      Sorry for the delay.  Try this forum for more information on Delicas.

      http://delica.ca/forum/index.php

      Joe

      raymond greeley wrote:

        I would like to see this van, what did you send it in. I have not been 
able to open
        ray




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          Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 15:48:02 -0400
          From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
          To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
          Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Newbie Seeking Diesel Van Recommendations

          Look for a mitsubishi delica.  A buddy of mine just imported one with 
low miles from Japan.  He loves it.

          Joe

          Luke Kareklas wrote:

            Hello All, 

            I am a Kid's Birthday Party Entertainer, as well as a Juggler, 
Magician, and "Balloon Guy."

            I live in the Midwest, and have all 4 seasons during the year, if 
this is a helpful bit of information. 

            Lately my entertainment business has gotten really busy and it's 
come time for me to buy a larger vehicle. I have been a fan of alternative 
fuels for years, but never pursued a diesel vehicle. 

            I would like recommendations on what type of deisel van would you 
recommend that would most easily transfer over to a SVO, WVO, or biodiesel 
system for me to drive? I am looking for a 1/2 or 3/4 ton van, not really a 
"minivan" type of vehicle. 

            Again, I am naive and new to all this and hope your thoughts will 
help ground me and get me pointed in the right direction. I guess I have to go 
buy a diesel vehicle before I can get moving on SVO, WVO, or Biodiesel fueling, 
right? 
            Thank you very much. 

            Luke

            Luke Kareklas
            Luke the Juggler
            614-764-8010
            www.LuketheJuggler.com

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