[svg-developers] Re: What are my options?
I'm only using IE/aSVG as all my clients live in managed service land of UK public bodies where everyone uses IE. My approach is to embed an SVG in an HTML. The SVG is dynamic but all l controls are run via JS in the IE view. Data is fetched from the server as Raw XML using XLR. The returned XML block is attached to ie.DOM, processed into an HTML table (inc some calcultaion) and the result is charted in the SVG. Most tables can be viewed in several ways, a change to the table view alters the chart. The SVG is a basic layout of the chart. Only series and scales are added dynamically to the svg.DOM using HTMLSVG communication. Essential there are 3 g: --- Layout --- Scales --- Series A refresh essentially measns removeing the g for Scales and Series, and rebuilding them. I went this way as it meant that I did not need any widgets for SELECTS, RADIOS, and so on. Basically, I'm using SVG as dynamic graphic tool for the chart and HTML for all other functionality. The way it is structured means that interaction is one-way. However, it is possible to have it both directions. --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, dupemenot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have to generate some data powered diagrams using svg. I am using jsp along with struts. Could you guys tell me what are the options I have ? What I found: -Use Batik library which encapsulates svg. This technology is not 100% capable yet -Use DOM to generate svg. Very long procedure coz one has to go through every node and its attributes. -Use xslt to generate svg. I dont have much knowledge about this. Please explain how would I do this. Its seems more practical approach. I am guessing I will have to get the data from the database in XML format in order to use this technology. Please enlighten me! - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Announcement: Adobe to Discontinue Adobe SVG Viewer
Hi Richard, I'm sure there are many of in this situation! Our App is a combined HTML/SVG data UI solution for govt depts are who are all IE users They will not be going to any other browsers any time soon (including ie7) and Flash is not really a solution for us as one of the key issues for us, and a key reason for choosing ASV was (and remains) the need for users to have a rastered copy of the SVG for post-use, as when a user has found the data, made a chart and so on, 99 times out of 100 they want to paste it into a word document. Fortunately the guys at Renesis have included a 'copy image' function in their player so I'm hoping that Renesis activeX object gets a good wind behind it and comes by for when you and I both take our head's out of the sand! --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tell me about it, a complete nightmare. Our apps solely work on SVG with some large companies and we are rewriting our apps to work on IE and all the Native SVG browsers coming out. The headache for me is these large companies are phasing out Flash availability in the company. Yep no flash player allowed to be installed, so I cannot (wouldnt anyway) move to flash. 3 companies IT depts have already confirmed this, SVG is ok luckily, but lo and behold, they use IE Im also standing at the crossroads, the only thing that keeps me going is the hope that Adobe dropping SVG is realised by some one at MS to see this as an opportunity to get back at Adobe and grasp back the browser market. I think im going to bury my head in the sand for 6 months, hope an alternative is on the way, if there isnt then probably s**t my pants and find another way. Sorry this has been useless info but had to get it off my chest. Richard From: Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: [svg-developers] Re: Announcement: Adobe to Discontinue Adobe SVG Viewer Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 15:14:34 - Hi all, I'm just in the process of developing an SVG application using AJAX and PHP for a client. The idea of Adobe backing out of the Adobe SVG field is causing some concern and to be honest I'd like to know what real options are available out there otherwise I'll be tempted to move over to Flash MX. The real bonus for this product I'm developing is indeed cost, it's practically free BUT I need to know that the application based on SVG is going to be suitable for the client long into the future. If I can't gurantee that, then I need to look for a solution that is more long-term. What effect is the loss of Adobe SVG plugin going to have on coding? Will my javascript/php code need to change? Will I need to make changes to the servers to allow new SVG plugins/browsers to work? Will I have to install anything new, complicated onto users machines? Will SVG remain widely supported by the open source community? I feel very much as though I should stop current development before I've invested too much time in a solution that is not suitable or worse sustainable. SVG has been a life-saver and to think I might have to move over to another product kinda annoys the hell out of me. Ben _ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re use of a DOM
I'm using HTTPXML (for an IE/ASV solution) with the format var xmlDoc = new ActiveXObject(Msxml2.DOMDocument.3.0); xmlDoc.load(url) this all works nicely, XML data is returned, and the xmlDoc is rturned to the calling function. The XML is then parsed into an array. I put it into an array, because the user may/should go back and request more data several times. Each data-fetch can then be retrieved from the array and displayed intables/charts. It seems to me that I should not need to put the data into an array but that I should be able to refer to the xmlDoc as per each request as I use a 'new' DOMdocument each time. However I can't figure out how to do this. Any clues mostg rateful appreciated. Garry - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: recommend web hosting service that supports SVG?
IIS 5.0 for SVG mimetype is relatively straightforward I have some instructions here: http://www.betamodel.com/iis5_and_svg_mimetype hope this might help you. --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, TJ Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Earthlink offers UNIX/Apache. I may need to switch from a Windows web hosting account to a UNIX acct! Currently, my account is hosted on an IIS 5.0 server. I've been working with Tech Support via two telephone calls to get SVG added as a MIME type, and it has been a pain. They offered this solution for adding SVG on my own (remotely): http://rtfm.atrax.co.uk/articles/article_11.asp but they didn't provide any details. I tried it by switching localhost to the IP address for my Earthlink server, but it didn't seem to work. Of course, I don't know WSH that well and I'm pretty sure some code must be missing here if you are trying to add a MIME type remotely. One Tech Support representative said he did talk with an engineer at Earthlink who thought it should work, but he was going to check back with that engineer for further clarification on the steps. If I find out, I'll let you know. I raised the issue with Earthlink that they should just support SVG as a standard MIME type on all servers. I pointed him to SVG Web sites with more info. The Tech Support rep said he would raise this issue with his engineers to see if they can make the change. It would be nice to get some large ISPs to do so. So, stay tuned. (Maybe give Earthlink a call, too! It might be an opportune time to get them to make the change if they get a number of comments/requests at once.) In the interim, my fall-back position is to switch the account to UNIX. It's cheaper anyway. And, of course, we know why SUN is cheaper than MS! ;-) Cheers, TJ -Original Message- From: Jonathan Watt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Apr 27, 2006 3:25 PM To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [svg-developers] recommend web hosting service that supports SVG? Peter, Any hosting company that provides Apache hosting and allows you to write your own .htaccess files should be fine. If you have that, then you can support SVG and gzip encoded SVG on your site regardless of the server configuration. See � http://wiki.svg.org/Server_Configuration:Apache If you want support for gzip encoded SVG I'd recommend you stay away from IIS hosting. The work arounds required for gzipped SVG aren't fun. Regards, Jonathan On 4/27/06, Peter Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone please recommend a reliable, inexpensive web hosting company that supports SVG?� I have very few requirements: 1)supports .svg files 2)supports .svgz files (I found one that supports svg but not svgz) 3)inexpensive You can respond via private email if you think that a public response is too much like advertising. Thanks. Peter __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam?� Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership SPONSORED LINKS Xml formatSvgFormatData YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * �Visit your group svg-developers on the web. � * �To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] � * �Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: An SVG Tutorial
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, domenico_strazzullo However, I wonder if Adobe has considered including SVG support within the Flash browser plugin. If that happened how would browsers distinguish who should render the SVG? Good point. It would be however a positive evolution since I reckon it will be some time before the native implementations reach the maturity of ASV. Domenico how does you browser know which plugin is going to play mp3s? happy easter, if it's your gig - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Has Adobe abandoned SVG?
not that i am 'in the know', but i think we will move forward with three paradigms: flex/flash on the public/consumer/entertainment/web2.0 front vista/winFX/xaml on the business/intranet front firefox/minority browsers/open source/svg/uml on the developer/academic/science front all these paradigms are xml and split the prsentation layer from the data layer (mostly) and given they are all XML, i am begining to think that this is a mature development --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Derek Hohls [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not wanting to start any flame-wars, or stir up too much controversy... but I am interested in opinions of those in the know whether or not SVG will continue to remain a fringe technology as far as the big players are concerned: http://www.web2journal.com/read/178098.htm When I think RIA, I think AJAX+SVG+ECMAscript ie. open standards-based apps... is this is too optimistic view of the world, or are players like IBM (who should not really have that much vested interest in Flash) poised to push things in this direction?! -- This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright, terms and conditions and e-mail legal notice. Views expressed herein do not necessarily represent the views of the CSIR. CSIR E-mail Legal Notice http://mail.csir.co.za/CSIR_eMail_Legal_Notice.html CSIR Copyright, Terms and Conditions http://mail.csir.co.za/CSIR_Copyright.html For electronic copies of the CSIR Copyright, Terms and Conditions and the CSIR Legal Notice send a blank message with REQUEST LEGAL in the subject line to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Flash Lite 2
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Richard Gnyla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting Here is the reason why Adobe thinks you should use Flash (and not alternative technologies such as SVG Because Flash costs $ and Adobe makes money for selling the product, SVG can be done in notepad. well i'd pay $$$ for a good development tool - whether it can be done in notepad or not I have no objection to adobe making $$$ from any technology iof they add value to it or make it easier I have paid for SVG tools in the past (e.g. Xstudio), and will again, if ever one apears (e.g. Renesis) - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Why is being in XML better? (was Re: Adobe/Macromedia)
[author's note: This is a bit of long one, adn not really about developments in SVG, but where SVG fits into the big picture of business and economics and why XML is better (than what?)] The argument for XML is not really a technological one, but a business and economic one. Which technologies to use is not a discussion that business strategists are having right now, and it is certainly not one that economists are having either. And you should beleive that IT strategists are NOT in the driving seat (that was a temporaray blip through dot.com madness), they are not even the navigators any longer. The have be backlined to technicans seat (again). The full investment cycle for business/government is a long time (7- 11 years) and ask any economist they will tell you that the new technology driver is a) expanding the cycle not shortening it and b) reinvestment is globally directed at margin extratction not at IT investment. Info Technology has been (rightly IMHO) demoted back to toolkit. But there is an intersting shift here that is important to this discussion about XML, as shareholders would like to see the ROI they were promised at the the begining of this cycle stabilised to yeild (ie coverting their investment into regualar stable dividends). Shareholders are saying you have invested our money in all this kit that can talk to one and other, so let it talk... XML is better because because it makes for interoperability, and in the new business world metricification neccesitates interoperability. And because XML has validation, it scores highly for interoperability. All capitalised Business has two meta-rules: externalise costs; internalise revenue. (Any one who operates outside of this rule-set is having a laugh a the expense of someone elses' capital reserve.) From an economic point of view the metrification of this rule-set is the key consolidated reason d'etre of IT. And in a changing global economy (rapid expansion of the business footprint globally, to the structural tranformation of the business population) requires that business units can talk to one and other easily, cost-effectivily and transparently. Administrators in both Business and government need to share metrics. The so-called 'economic miracle' of the dot.com era was that we saw a rapidaly expanding number of business transactions, yet the amortised cost of the transactions hardly changed - partcualy when the cost of IT was discounted against the necessary re-invetment and capitalisation. This is what made dot.com so sexy. While the spotlight for dot.com was on business-to-consumer tranasctions, and the partially exposed business-to-busines model, what economic analysts began to see was that the real long term benefits of this technology was instrinsic metrification of the whole business cycle and producting business descision frameworks that were both shorter in timescale and wider in coverage making it possible to make more cost-benefical decisisons. This even tirumphs over the content-specific industries (new and old) because it is the same semantic. And this understanding is now being widely adopted at the root of the investment cycle: with corporate investors. An emerging consensus has appeared that says the ROI for IT is in greater metrification. This is the discussion that business strategist and economists are having: How we our existing IT investment help use externalise costs and internalise revenue? Economic gain from IT in the last 25 years (stretching over 4/5 years economic cycles) has seem more yield from back-end integration than front-office fulfillment. Inverstors would like to see more of this. And more of this is delivered through interoperability. The business community (and governments) have already started turning this super-tanker in the direction of interoprability and XML is due North. The investor community now has a healthy cyncisim towards IT- hype, and the lag in economic understanding about the what IT does for business is closing. We have moved to a paradigm where IT investment must now be consolidated by increasing interoperability. This is what XML offers. Consolidation of invetment and increased operability across business-functions (internally and externally). SVG is part of this paradigm. It is a cliche that one picture can speak a thousand words and thats why you, dear reader, are on this list. You know that there is a requirement to present consolidated metrics in graphical format - what ever it is you are metrifying. My engagement with SVG has been relatively recent - and I'm a weird species of econmist/developer/researcher/analyst/strategist - but in this period I have seen a very common element to all the workings of this community and what you/we are trying to do with XML/SVG: make better decisions that cost less yet have more impact. Having a common, underlying language/framework that enables to do this is why SVG
[svg-developers] Why is being in XML better? (was Re: Adobe/Macromedia)
oops, i posted this before I had finished (both argument and proofing) so it's full of typos, poor gramma and some missing syntax! But i hope the trajectory is clear... --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Garry Haywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [author's note: This is a bit of long one, adn not really about developments in SVG, but where SVG fits into the big picture of business and economics and why XML is better (than what?)] The argument for XML is not really a technological one, but a business and economic one. Which technologies to use is not a discussion that business strategists are having right now, and it is certainly not one that economists are having either. And you should beleive that IT strategists are NOT in the driving seat (that was a temporaray blip through dot.com madness), they are not even the navigators any longer. The have be backlined to technicans seat (again). The full investment cycle for business/government is a long time (7- 11 years) and ask any economist they will tell you that the new technology driver is a) expanding the cycle not shortening it and b) reinvestment is globally directed at margin extratction not at IT investment. Info Technology has been (rightly IMHO) demoted back to toolkit. But there is an intersting shift here that is important to this discussion about XML, as shareholders would like to see the ROI they were promised at the the begining of this cycle stabilised to yeild (ie coverting their investment into regualar stable dividends). Shareholders are saying you have invested our money in all this kit that can talk to one and other, so let it talk... XML is better because because it makes for interoperability, and in the new business world metricification neccesitates interoperability. And because XML has validation, it scores highly for interoperability. All capitalised Business has two meta-rules: externalise costs; internalise revenue. (Any one who operates outside of this rule-set is having a laugh a the expense of someone elses' capital reserve.) From an economic point of view the metrification of this rule-set is the key consolidated reason d'etre of IT. And in a changing global economy (rapid expansion of the business footprint globally, to the structural tranformation of the business population) requires that business units can talk to one and other easily, cost-effectivily and transparently. Administrators in both Business and government need to share metrics. The so-called 'economic miracle' of the dot.com era was that we saw a rapidaly expanding number of business transactions, yet the amortised cost of the transactions hardly changed - partcualy when the cost of IT was discounted against the necessary re-invetment and capitalisation. This is what made dot.com so sexy. While the spotlight for dot.com was on business-to-consumer tranasctions, and the partially exposed business-to-busines model, what economic analysts began to see was that the real long term benefits of this technology was instrinsic metrification of the whole business cycle and producting business descision frameworks that were both shorter in timescale and wider in coverage making it possible to make more cost-benefical decisisons. This even tirumphs over the content-specific industries (new and old) because it is the same semantic. And this understanding is now being widely adopted at the root of the investment cycle: with corporate investors. An emerging consensus has appeared that says the ROI for IT is in greater metrification. This is the discussion that business strategist and economists are having: How we our existing IT investment help use externalise costs and internalise revenue? Economic gain from IT in the last 25 years (stretching over 4/5 years economic cycles) has seem more yield from back-end integration than front-office fulfillment. Inverstors would like to see more of this. And more of this is delivered through interoperability. The business community (and governments) have already started turning this super-tanker in the direction of interoprability and XML is due North. The investor community now has a healthy cyncisim towards IT- hype, and the lag in economic understanding about the what IT does for business is closing. We have moved to a paradigm where IT investment must now be consolidated by increasing interoperability. This is what XML offers. Consolidation of invetment and increased operability across business-functions (internally and externally). SVG is part of this paradigm. It is a cliche that one picture can speak a thousand words and thats why you, dear reader, are on this list. You know that there is a requirement to present consolidated metrics in graphical format - what ever it is you are metrifying. My engagement with SVG has been relatively recent
[svg-developers] Why is being in XML better? (was Re: Adobe/Macromedia)
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jim Ley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The XML RSS feeds are broken all over the place, the HTML world, well just about anything can render that. There's no obvious reason why the rendering needs to be shipped around as XML. Jim. you are absolutley right, who said SVG was the only rendering system? not me I was talking about why is XML is better for SVG than any other mark- up, particuarly if SVG is to grow into a mature rendering mark-up that is part of a component based semantic web that replaces HTML, eventually, because HTML needs to be more than just a rendering mark- up. It's not a technical issue. If XML is the common markup for this symantic matrix of data, transformations, queries, etc then SVG, as a mature UI rendering system should be too. Having a common semantic across different functions of the document object model, including rendering, is good: everything is parsed for validation once, by one process, before it gets distributed for construction - standardisation like this should result in less 'rejection' - that fact that we are not making anything does not mean rejects don't cost money. It is, in economic terms and within a broad statistical framework, efficient for SVG to be in XML, as the common rendering markup of the semantic web. That was my point, not that its a technical requirement. And it really is an humble opinion: in preparing this answer I have rehersed the case for and I still think it make sense for SVG to be in XML, and it I think it will become as instrisicin in the prevailing economic mode as fordism was/is to manufacturing era. The only reason to adopt an alternative mark-up for SVG is that current one -XML, what everything else is being shipped in - is not adequate because it is not specialised enough - e.g for Math, CAD, Chemistry, etc - or its verbosity is a source of congestion where something more streamlined might be in order. But if you think otherwise I would like to know has your view is highly regarded here. And that so much RSS is broken hardly matters - its mostly terminated anyway. It arrives at the final consumer and if it's broken but consumable who cares? Not the consumer. However if your repackaging data for forward use - like Reuters RSS feeds for example - the source has to work, it can't be broken... having it comply and validate in XML is necessary thing... But thanks for the challenge, it was interesting to think this through Garry Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: cross-domain interaction with XMLHTTP
thanks to all who helped with this issue... in the end we have installed php5 the FC Internet Server will let php5ISAPI run via a cgi-bin so all is sweet, XMLHTTP requests in a secure environment!! we only needed a little PHP script that takes some variables from the request, translates them to http/sql stored procedure for IIS and MSSQL the resulting XML is the echo'd back. tasty --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Garry Haywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Robin Berjon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 09, 2005, at 11:36, Garry Haywood wrote: the html pages that will contain the scripts that request the XML are on FirstClass Internet Services (which is an embedded appache server, so its pre-compiled and not updateable) Can you get any kind of executable script running there? -- Robin Berjon Senior Research Scientist Expway, http://expway.com/ yes, it seems we can run cgi / php so we can probably do similar method as recomeneded by Jim or similar... I'll keep the list posted Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: getURL and global variables
there is also a possibility that your getURL is working, but is takeing some time, because the fetch is asychronous, your 2nd alert may be being fired before the getURL method has completed. you could test this by putting an alert in f2() but really, as I said in the repvious messge, you might really want to test the sucess of the getURL method --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Garry Haywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it seems that your getURL call is not happening, hence it nevers calls f2(), and thus global is NOT after see you might want to test for sucess: this following code is taken from http://www.carto.net/papers/svg/samples/get_parse.shtml function addMe(fileName,where) { getURL(fileName, fileLoaded); function fileLoaded(data) { var string = ''; if(data.success) { string = data.content; } else { return; } var node = parseXML(string, document); document.getElementById(where).appendChild(node); } } --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, sciuradaltura [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! That's my problem: I need to extract some values from an XML file and storing it in global variables. I noticed that a function called through getURL is not able to modify global variables... This is what I have: var global = before; function f1(...) { alert(global); getURL('...', f2); alert(global); } function f2(...) { global = after; } I call for first the function f1 and the alerts are: before and before. I noticed that if I do this (but I can't - I have to use getURL!!!): var global = before; function f1(...) { alert(global); f2(); alert(global); } function f2(...) { global = after; } It works well: alerts are before and after. How can I resolve the problem with getURL? Thanks! Barbara Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: cross-domain interaction with XMLHTTP
Thanks Jim, good solution, but the opposite of what we need!!! the html pages that will contain the scripts that request the XML are on FirstClass Internet Services (which is an embedded appache server, so its pre-compiled and not updateable) the XML comes from IIS/ASP onwards and upwards! Garry --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jim Ley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Garry Haywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jim Ley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: site to the other, so all requests go to the one server. does any body have a recomendation of good, cheap/free , proxy for w2000 You don't really need anything so complicated, in fact, the more of a general purpose proxy you have the harder it will be to secure it to only requesting the subset of files you want. Assuming you don't need to map http success codes, and it's just a straight GET, then the below JScript ASP page is a perfectly reasonable proxy. var file=decodeURIComponent(Request.ServerVariables (QUERY_STRING)); xmlhttp=new ActiveXObject(MSXML2.ServerXMLHTTP) xmlhttp.open(GET,http://otherserver.com/+file,false); xmlhttp.send(); Response.Write(xmlhttp.responseText) call it moomin.asp, then you can request pages on the other server with xmlhttp.open('GET','moomin.asp?/somefile.xml',false); Of course, you may need a slightly more complicated proxy if you want to handle post etc. but I'd've thought you could manage it easily enough in a similar way. Cheers, Jim. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: cross-domain interaction with XMLHTTP
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Robin Berjon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 09, 2005, at 11:36, Garry Haywood wrote: the html pages that will contain the scripts that request the XML are on FirstClass Internet Services (which is an embedded appache server, so its pre-compiled and not updateable) Can you get any kind of executable script running there? -- Robin Berjon Senior Research Scientist Expway, http://expway.com/ yes, it seems we can run cgi / php so we can probably do similar method as recomeneded by Jim or similar... I'll keep the list posted Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: dom svg interaction
the document.domain must be the same in both documents. e.g document.doman = mydomain.com --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, r k [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am serving an svg from another location from the original document. I want that svg document to acces the top level. but am not able to. i get an access denied in ASV. any way to solve this ? thanks rk top level file : site1/main.html function topfunc() { } embeds site2/example.svg function init() { top.topfunc(); } Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] cross-domain interaction with XMLHTTP
does anyone know of a way I can get XML content from sub1.mydomain.com into an embed that is hosted on sub0.mydomain.com where mydomain.com is the same server, but one is servered via non MS- web server and the other via IIS (the xml from asp) via two different IPs ??? I thought maybe I could add document.domain in a CDATA section in the xml, but of course this is not parsed in XMLHTTP request then I thought maybe I could use the ?access-control allow=*.mydomain.com? tag but that is pointless, because the server never even gets a request as the load method blocks the call because the urls are not equivilent then i got stuck any assistance greatly recieved Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: cross-domain interaction with XMLHTTP
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jim Ley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Garry Haywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I know with IE I can use a different port (so leave www requests on port 80 and xml requests on 8080) Nope xmlhttp request is also limited by the port it can connect to, it can only request back to the same port - in a default security environment. Jim. were you saying 'no, you can't do this in firefox' or 'no you can't do this full stop' ? I can do it with IE http://www.betamodel.com/v2/xml_test Garry Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: cross-domain interaction with XMLHTTP
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jim Ley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: site to the other, so all requests go to the one server. does any body have a recomendation of good, cheap/free , proxy for w2000 ??? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: XMLHTTP and IE DOM
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Watt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Garry, Watch your spelling! ;-) -Jonathan thanks, that's resolved an error yet to come! but the real issue how do get object.responseXML into the DOM? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: XMLHTTP and IE DOM
thanks for help wattie it's still not working in either IE6 or FF (DPA) in IE, it gets through the makeTable() function, but has there appears to be no firstChild I can't traverse anywhere in FF, it fails the (req.status == 200) test! (which maybe gives us a clue?) anyway, i repost the script etc SCRIPT var req; function loadXMLDoc(url) { req = false; // branch for native XMLHttpRequest object if(window.XMLHttpRequest) { try { req = new XMLHttpRequest(); } catch(e) { req = false; } // branch for IE/Windows ActiveX version } else if(window.ActiveXObject) { try { req = new ActiveXObject(Msxml2.XMLHTTP); } catch(e) { try { req = new ActiveXObject(Microsoft.XMLHTTP); } catch(e) { req = false; } } } if(req) { req.onreadystatechange = processReqChange; req.open(GET, url, true); req.send(); } } function processReqChange() { // only if req shows loaded if (req.readyState == 4) { // only if OK if (req.status == 200) { alert(req.responseText); makeTable(req.responseXML); } else { alert(There was a problem retrieving the XML data:\n + req.statusText); } } } function makeTable(xml_doc){ var child = xml_doc.firstChild while(child!=null){ if(child.nodeName=='beta'){ var betaChild = child.firstChild; while(betaChild!=null){ alert (betaChild.getAttribute('col001')) betaChild = betaChild.nextSibling; } } child = child.nextSibling; } } /SCRIPT the script is being called by a button... INPUT TYPE=button VALUE=Test onclick=loadXMLDoc ('/v2/xml/regions.xml') this is the content of the regions.xml file ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8 ? beta nuts1 col001=UKC col002=North East / nuts1 col001=UKD col002=North West / nuts1 col001=UKE col002=Yorkshire and The Humber / nuts1 col001=UKF col002=East Midlands / nuts1 col001=UKG col002=West Midlands / nuts1 col001=UKH col002=East of England / nuts1 col001=UKI col002=London / nuts1 col001=UKJ col002=South East / nuts1 col001=UKK col002=South West / nuts1 col001=UKL col002=Wales / nuts1 col001=UKM col002=Scotland / nuts1 col001=UKN col002=Northern Ireland / /beta --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Watt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So does it work now or is it still broken? If the latter it would be good to have some for info. Browser, version etc. On 11/4/05, Garry Haywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it is probably my confusion I know that the request has been sucessful a) it is tested for and b) req.responseText is the text that I was expecting however, the firstChild retuns null Which line? - so I assumed that I wasn't actually acessing the dom tree therefore I assumed that maybe I had to append responseXML to the DOM somehow befor I could acess it!!! Nope. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] XMLHTTP and IE DOM
i'm trying to load some XML into the DOM, for traversing and manipulation the XML is coming across from the server OK, but I can't get to it - I'm assuming that I haven't attached it to the DOM correctly (or at all) can any one see a solution here: SCRIPT var req; function loadXMLDoc(url) { req = false; // branch for native XMLHttpRequest object if(window.XMLHttpRequest) { try { req = new XMLHttpRequest(); } catch(e) { req = false; } // branch for IE/Windows ActiveX version } else if(window.ActiveXObject) { try { req = new ActiveXObject(Msxml2.XMLHTTP); } catch(e) { try { req = new ActiveXObject(Microsoft.XMLHTTP); } catch(e) { req = false; } } } if(req) { req.onreadystatechange = processReqChange; req.open(GET, url, true); req.send(); } } function processReqChange() { // only if req shows loaded if (req.readyState == 4) { // only if OK if (req.status == 200) { //alert(req.responseText); makeTable(req.responseXML); } else { alert(There was a problem retrieving the XML data:\n + req.statusText); } } } function makeTable(xmlDocument){ var child = xmlDocument.firstChild while(child!=null){ if(child.nodeName=='beta'){ var betaChild = child.firstChild; while(betaChild!=null){ alert (betachild.getAttribute('col001')) betaChild = betaChild.nextSibling; } } child = child.nextSibling; } } /SCRIPT INPUT TYPE=button VALUE=Test onclick=loadXMLDoc ('/v2/xml/regions.xml') ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8 ? beta nuts1 col001=UKC col002=North East / nuts1 col001=UKD col002=North West / nuts1 col001=UKE col002=Yorkshire and The Humber / nuts1 col001=UKF col002=East Midlands / nuts1 col001=UKG col002=West Midlands / nuts1 col001=UKH col002=East of England / nuts1 col001=UKI col002=London / nuts1 col001=UKJ col002=South East / nuts1 col001=UKK col002=South West / nuts1 col001=UKL col002=Wales / nuts1 col001=UKM col002=Scotland / nuts1 col001=UKN col002=Northern Ireland / /beta Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: SVG Pie Charts in a PDA
it would be good if you shared your solution with the list that way its in archive future use and some of us might learn something cheers Garry --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, acl_svg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have found another way to represent this type of graphics (with M and L commands) and the Pie Chart can be visualized in a PDA without mistakes. thank you very much for your help. --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Garry Haywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there was also a very good thread a few weeks ago which solved my problem with pie charts, but specifically helped me to understand the use of arcs and ellipses http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/message/51838 hope this helps --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Doug Schepers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, acl- You can use another path command, like C or Q. You'll need to do some math to calculate exactly how to make a proper arc segment, but this file should help: http://www.kevlindev.com/samples/tmp/circles.svg It is the result of a thread here a while back about the various ways to draw a circle in SVG. Regards- Doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.vectoreal.com ...for scalable solutions. acl_svg wrote: | | I want to visualize a Pie Chart in a PDA. | For the time being, I couldn't find the way to see them correctly. | I have tried several alternatives to represent Pie Chart | using the path label, with the commands A absolut and A | relative, and I don't understand why I can't visualize it | without mistakes. | | --- Example 1 - | | path d=M 350.0 150.0 A 100.0 100.0 0 0 0 301.83905169687813 | 64.48559934625983 L250.0,150.0 z style=stroke:black;fill:#FFC800/ | | path d=M 301.83905169687813 64.48559934625983 A 100.0 100.0 0 0 0 | 215.4630724536883 56.15331313434227 L250.0,150.0 z | style=stroke:black;fill:#FF/ | | path id=sector2 d=M 215.4630724536883 56.15331313434227 A | 100.0 100.0 0 0 0 159.9028399982932 106.61219342226616 | L250.0,150.0 z | style=stroke:black;fill:#FF/ | | ... | --- Example 2 - | | path d=M15,200 a150,150 0 1,0 300,0 z fill=red stroke=blue | stroke-width=1 / | path d=M60,90 a150,150 0 0,0 -50,100 l150,0 z fill=yellow | stroke=blue stroke-width=1 / | path d=M320,190 a150,150 0 0,0 -250,-100 l100,100 z | fill=green stroke=blue stroke-width=1 / | |--- --- - | | I have also tried to represent the graphics using Path cubic bezier | command: Q, C... but I couldn't generate the same result as I | get when I use the A | command to create a Pie Chart to visualize it in a PC. | | I'd like to know if someone has tried to represent a similar | graphic in a PDA. If there is any posibility to visualize it, | I would like to know it. | (a PieGraphic example: http://www.germane- | software.com/software/SVG/SVG::Graph/images/pie.svg) | Finally, I would like to discover other posibilities to | represent Pie Chart without using A command in order to try | if it's possible to get a suitable result in a PDA. | Thanks. | | Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: SVG Pie Charts in a PDA
there was also a very good thread a few weeks ago which solved my problem with pie charts, but specifically helped me to understand the use of arcs and ellipses http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/message/51838 hope this helps --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Doug Schepers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, acl- You can use another path command, like C or Q. You'll need to do some math to calculate exactly how to make a proper arc segment, but this file should help: http://www.kevlindev.com/samples/tmp/circles.svg It is the result of a thread here a while back about the various ways to draw a circle in SVG. Regards- Doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.vectoreal.com ...for scalable solutions. acl_svg wrote: | | I want to visualize a Pie Chart in a PDA. | For the time being, I couldn't find the way to see them correctly. | I have tried several alternatives to represent Pie Chart | using the path label, with the commands A absolut and A | relative, and I don't understand why I can't visualize it | without mistakes. | | --- Example 1 - | | path d=M 350.0 150.0 A 100.0 100.0 0 0 0 301.83905169687813 | 64.48559934625983 L250.0,150.0 z style=stroke:black;fill:#FFC800/ | | path d=M 301.83905169687813 64.48559934625983 A 100.0 100.0 0 0 0 | 215.4630724536883 56.15331313434227 L250.0,150.0 z | style=stroke:black;fill:#FF/ | | path id=sector2 d=M 215.4630724536883 56.15331313434227 A | 100.0 100.0 0 0 0 159.9028399982932 106.61219342226616 | L250.0,150.0 z | style=stroke:black;fill:#FF/ | | ... | --- Example 2 - | | path d=M15,200 a150,150 0 1,0 300,0 z fill=red stroke=blue | stroke-width=1 / | path d=M60,90 a150,150 0 0,0 -50,100 l150,0 z fill=yellow | stroke=blue stroke-width=1 / | path d=M320,190 a150,150 0 0,0 -250,-100 l100,100 z | fill=green stroke=blue stroke-width=1 / | |--- --- - | | I have also tried to represent the graphics using Path cubic bezier | command: Q, C... but I couldn't generate the same result as I | get when I use the A | command to create a Pie Chart to visualize it in a PC. | | I'd like to know if someone has tried to represent a similar | graphic in a PDA. If there is any posibility to visualize it, | I would like to know it. | (a PieGraphic example: http://www.germane- | software.com/software/SVG/SVG::Graph/images/pie.svg) | Finally, I would like to discover other posibilities to | represent Pie Chart without using A command in order to try | if it's possible to get a suitable result in a PDA. | Thanks. | | Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: parseXML doesnt split up XML nodes
I think that Olaf has pointed out the solution, I thought I would chime in a little, because it seems that what you are seeing is the root node for *this* newly added XML segment your data is in child nodes of this node, as per Olaf's explanation --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Olaf Schnabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi nasenma25 In my opinion you get the root element back, if you ask for xmldoc.childNodes. Try xmldoc.documentElement.childNodes; var xmldoc = parseXML(obj.content); var nodes = xmldoc.childNodes; alert(ln: +nodes.length); Hope it helps. Olaf -- Olaf Schnabel Department of Cartography Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH) ETH Hoenggerberg, CH-8093 Zurich, Switzerland phone: ++41 44 633 3031 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.ika.ethz.ch/schnabel Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: very urgent
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, arthycharm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hai Garry, thanx for your reply.that was what i expected.but a small note you have helped in the area where in a single groupid you have circles with specific id .but what i have used is every circle will be in induvidual group id .there would be one circle in one groupid.and i have to connect circles of different group id. being beginner i tried with your code but i have not suceeded,can provide me some more suggestions thanx regards, arthy. the issue your dealing here is not whether they are in a group or not, i put them in a group for eas of use the methodology i chose was to assume you don't have a fixed set of circles, but that you can tarverse the DOM looking them in some kind of relationship... in the method i did this by putting them in the group and simply traversing the group but you could traverse the DOM looking for tagName=circ or something else that identifies your circles - maybe the group names have a commun element or something, but this would take longer and you would need a more flexible looping system to take account perhaps if you submit your SVG we could help you a little more Garry Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] SwiNE Support
does anyone know if there are any SWiNE support groups forums etc out there. SWiNE is a really useful widget kit, imho, but because it lacks documentation it can take a while to get you head round bits I can now make widgets willy-nilly but'id like to be able to make some stylistic and layout changes and I just cannot fathom some of the inheritance chains any way, any info or interest please let me know G Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: very urgent
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Samuel Dagan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Arty Charm, I would use scripting. Cheers, Samy --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, arthycharm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi , i have a program done in svg. it looks like this, you have four circles,each designed by means of a group id as g id =2 circ. title desc /g g id=3.. . . . /g similarly all the circles suppose i have to connect circle with id=2 to circle with id=3,4,5 i am in need to get the values of all the the other circles ie.,cx and cy values. how is it possible to get the cx and cy values. is there any suggestions, please help me. regards, arthy. hi arthy, this script below does the business basically the circles are number c1...c4 in a group on a mouseover, we get the cx,cy of the target circle then we run through the other circles in the group for each other circle we get it cx,cy and create a line (in another group) between the circls on mouseout rund through the line group and remve all the lines voila! svg width=169.33mm height=127mm xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; preserveAspectRatio=xMidYMid meet zoomAndPan=magnify script type=text/ecmascript![CDATA[var SVGDoc; function mouseout(evt){ SVGDoc = evt.getTarget.getOwnerDocument() var lines = document.getElementById(lines); var child = lines.firstChild; while (child!=null){ lines.removeChild(child) child = lines.firstChild; } } function mouseover(evt){ SVGDoc = evt.getTarget.getOwnerDocument() var lines = document.getElementById(lines); var currentCircle = {} currentCircle.id = evt.target.getAttribute(id); currentCircle.cx = evt.target.getAttribute(cx); currentCircle.cy = evt.target.getAttribute(cy); var circles = document.getElementById(circles); var child = circles.firstChild; child=child.nextSibling; while (child!=null){ if (child.getAttribute(id)!=currentCircle.id){ var otherCircle = {} otherCircle.id = child.getAttribute (id); otherCircle.cx = child.getAttribute (cx); otherCircle.cy = child.getAttribute (cy); var line = SVGDoc.createElement(line); line.setAttribute(id,currentCircle.id + '_to_' + otherCircle.id); line.setAttribute(x1,currentCircle.cx); line.setAttribute(y1,currentCircle.cy); line.setAttribute(x2,otherCircle.cx); line.setAttribute(y2,otherCircle.cy); line.setAttribute(stroke,red); line.setAttribute(stroke-width,1); lines.appendChild(line); } child=child.nextSibling; child=child.nextSibling; } } ]] /script !-- Created 22/09/2005 from XStudio 6.0 -- g id=circles onmouseover=mouseover(evt) onmouseout=mouseout (evt) transform=matrix(1,0,0,1,-7.61926,-22.0113) circle cx=102 cy=121 r=42 id=c1 / circle cx=347 cy=127 r=42 id=c2 / circle cx=110 cy=320 r=43 id=c3 / circle cx=360 cy=326 r=38 id=c4 / /g g id=lines /g /svg Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: changing polygon points
I solved this!!! Ater a long while tracing the process I relised that I was not removing the coords that I was trying to replace, but adding the new coords just before it thanks to anywone that looked! Garry the solution was to take the index and shortne the points string after the loop! --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Garry Haywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi i'm trying to change a pair of points in a polygon TAR (6 sets, 4 of which can be changed) //the new points are assigned to a string] nuPts = (rx) + ',' + (ry); //the existing points are ptsStr = document.getElementById(TAR).getAttribute(points); //set some var for looping through the ptsStr var i=1; var startStr='',endStr='',startSteInd=''; //cnt is assigned earlier via a switch to determine w //which set of points is being replaced // - it is never the first or last while (i = cnt) { window.status = 'i: ' + i //get index of first space - assumes space is seperator // of coords system ind = ptsStr.indexOf( ); //puts the first part into a var startStr = startStr + ptsStr.substring(0,ind+1); //puts remainining into itself ptsStr = ptsStr.substring(ind+1); // increase iteration i++; } // loops ends when established first part of string //rebulid points nuStr = startStr + nuPts + ptsStr; document.getElementById(display).firstChild.setData(nuStr) if (polyChk==1){ document.getElementById(TAR).setAttribute(points,nuStr); } if i don't have the polygon change the 'nuStr' var contains the correct points info yet when I try to set the polygon, it just doesn't take the string but seems to add the new points over and over again a version of this can be a seen at http://svg.betamodel.com/radar1.svg any clues ? Thanks in advance Garry Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: SVG doesn't open correctly
if you're using IIS5 IIS 5.0 then I have prepared a little step through here with pictures: http://www.betamodel.com/iis5_and_svg_mimetype regards Garry --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Samuel Dagan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi dfi10x, It seems that the MIME type for SVG is not defined correctly at your server. Look at http://www.svgfaq.com/ServerGen.asp for more details. By the way, do you have a regular name? Cheers and good luck, Samy --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, dfi10x [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I got the following problem. If i open this svg File from my webserver i get the following error (IE): ### Die XML-Seite kann nicht angezeigt werden Die XML-Eingabe kann nicht angezeigt werden, wenn Stylesheet XSL verwendet wird. Beheben Sie den Fehler und klicken Sie dann auf Aktualisieren, oder wiederholen Sie den Vorgang spä´¥r. -- -- - --- Das Verwenden von Standard-Namespacedeklarationsattributen wird in DTD nicht unterst?Fehler beim Bearbeiten der Ressou... svg id=svgbody width=984 height=432 xml:space=preserve ### In English: ### The XML-Site can't be displayed The XML-EINGABE can't be displayed, if Stylesheet XSL is used. Correct the error and click refresh, or try again later. -- Using of standard-namespacedeclaratin is not supported in DTD. Error handling the ressour svg id=svgbody width=984 height=432 xml:space=preserve ### (Firefox): Mit dieser XML-Datei sind anscheinend keine Style- Informationen verkn?Nachfolgend wird die Baum-Ansicht des Dokuments angezeigt. In english: There is no style information connected to this XML file. Subsequent the Tree-View of the document is shown. (thats the Tree-View): svg id=svgbody width=984 height=432 xml:space=preserve defs pattern id=backgound patternUnits=userSpaceOnUse x=0 y=0 width=10 height=10 image xlink:href=/csp/ui/csp/img/statbkgr_patern.gif x=0 y=0 width=10 height=10 style=opacity:1; image- rendering=optimizeSpeed/ /pattern /defs rect x=0 y=0 width=984 height=432 style=fill: url (#backgound)/ text x=492 y=20 style=text-anchor:middle;dominant- baseline:mathematical;font-family:Verdana;font- size:13;fill:black;pointer-events:none;Ü¢erschrift/text /svg Heres the code from the svg file: ### ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8? !DOCTYPE svg PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD SVG 2303 Stylable//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/2000/03/WD-SVG- 2303/DTD/svg-2303-stylable.dtd [ !ENTITY header 'text-anchor:middle;dominant- baseline:mathematical;font-family:Verdana;font- size:13;fill:black;pointer-events:none;' ] svg id=svgbody width=984 height=432 xml:space=preserve defs pattern id=backgound patternUnits=userSpaceOnUse x=0 y=0 width=10 height=10 image xlink:href=/csp/ui/csp/img/statbkgr_patern.gif x=0 y=0 width=10 height=10 style=opacity:1; image- rendering=optimizeSpeed / /pattern /defs rect x=0 y=0 width=984 height=432 style=fill: url (#backgound)/ text x='492' y='20' style='header;'#220;berschrift/text /svg ### But if i open the file locally, its displayed with no error... So whats wrong? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] changing polygon points
Hi i'm trying to change a pair of points in a polygon TAR (6 sets, 4 of which can be changed) //the new points are assigned to a string] nuPts = (rx) + ',' + (ry); //the existing points are ptsStr = document.getElementById(TAR).getAttribute(points); //set some var for looping through the ptsStr var i=1; var startStr='',endStr='',startSteInd=''; //cnt is assigned earlier via a switch to determine w //which set of points is being replaced // - it is never the first or last while (i = cnt) { window.status = 'i: ' + i //get index of first space - assumes space is seperator // of coords system ind = ptsStr.indexOf( ); //puts the first part into a var startStr = startStr + ptsStr.substring(0,ind+1); //puts remainining into itself ptsStr = ptsStr.substring(ind+1); // increase iteration i++; } // loops ends when established first part of string //rebulid points nuStr = startStr + nuPts + ptsStr; document.getElementById(display).firstChild.setData(nuStr) if (polyChk==1){ document.getElementById(TAR).setAttribute(points,nuStr); } if i don't have the polygon change the 'nuStr' var contains the correct points info yet when I try to set the polygon, it just doesn't take the string but seems to add the new points over and over again a version of this can be a seen at http://svg.betamodel.com/radar1.svg any clues ? Thanks in advance Garry Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: The Worm Has Turned ?
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Francis Hemsher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reading the posts on this list, just over the last month or so, has warmed the cockles of my heart. There are serious developers that are trying to make SVG work. C++ and Java folks are, for some reason, taking much effort to apply SVG to their apps. I wonder why this is so? because we all need to express our data as graphics, as a picture says more than a thousand words and SVG rocks... limitations and all Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM ~- - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] anchor and cursors
in the search of cursor solution for ASV I saw a demo with an anchor A tag wrapped around a rectangle - this changes the cursor to be a finger pointer (in IE at least) is there any reason why this should not be used in lieu of cursors being implemented in the viewer? svg xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; a rect x=165 y=97 width=206 height=48 rx=8 transform=matrix(0.651165,0,0,0.549018,57.38,43.3808) onclick=alert (apos;you said what?apos;) / /a text x=178 y=112 fill=rgb(236,0,0) font-size=16pt pointer- events=none transform=matrix(1,0,0,1,-9.61937,6.73352)button cursor/text /svg - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Programming Environment
you might also want to look at Kev Lindens Game of life implmentation in SVG, http://www.kevlindev.com/alife/life/ GoL is a matricised occupation simulation so most of the impelemntation may help you Peace! --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Holger Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob Hunter schrieb: This may seem like a dumb question, but is there another way to program SVGs other than Javascript. I've developed a pretty sophisticated command and control application using just Javascript and SVG. However, we're looking at exporting it to some Asian markets where stealing your code is rampant. So, now I'm looking for some sort of compiled code method of doing this app. I realized that I have very little code that actually runs inside the SVG. For the most part, I add event listeners for the mouse and handle all of the interactivity through Javascript outside the SVG. The Javascript uses DOM methods to add back animateMotions, paths, etc. to accomplish the interactivity. Can this be done equally well from a Java applet? Is there something better than Java for this purpose? that depends on your personaly likes and dislikes. you might want to look at Renesis ( http://www.gosvg.net/ ) which supports C#. Thanks, Bob - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: example code
If you are looking to display this as astatic SVG this shouild be very easy you just need for each 22 or 21 the coords in your matrix I would have each scenario implemented for avaiablity in XML scenario id=scene_001 terrain x=1 y=1 occupier=21/ terrain x=2 y=1 occupier=21/ terrain x=3 y=1 occupier=21/ terrain x=4 y=1 occupier=22/ ... terrain x=150 y=150 occupier=22/ /scenario then you could use XSLT or ECMAScript to convert this to rect in SVG Dom: take each location, use it inform the atribbutue values of rects or circles etc svg width=150 height150 rect x=1 y=1 height=1 width=1 fill=rgb(255,0,0)/ rect x=2 y=1 height=1 width=1 fill=rgb(255,0,0)/ rect x=3 y=1 height=1 width=1 fill=rgb(255,0,0)/ rect x=4 y=1 height=1 width=1 fill=rgb(255,0,255)/ ... terrain x=150 y=150 height=1 width=1 fill=rgb(0,0,255)/ /svg HTH Garry --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, reindeer21005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am new to SVG and not even sure if an SVG application is the right approach.! It is a 2D problem consisting of 150 x 150 values representaive of terrain ownership - 150 rows - . . ... . . . ... . 22 22 22 21 22 22 22 22 21 21 22 22 . . . .... . . . . .... . 22 22 22 ... 22 22 ^ | 150 cols a value of 22 means RED forces own that sub-area and I want to place a red rectangle there and a 21 is BLUE and I will place a blue rectangle there. The result will be 2D grid of blue and red rectangles. First is SVG a possibility ? Assuming it is, what steps should I take to get the actual SVG ? That is to get from a file of 21s and 22s to a pleasing 2D representation that one can look at and make decisions. Should I write some Java and/or XSLT ? I am a programmer familiar with Java, XML, ... and will teach myself SVG if I should. Any positive suggestions are appreciated. - Andrew M. Neiderer US Army Research Lab - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: example code
you might also want to look at Kev Lindsey's Game of Life implmentation in SVG, http://www.kevlindev.com/alife/life/ GoL is a matricised occupation simulation so most of the impelemntation may be of help to you Peace! --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Garry Haywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are looking to display this as astatic SVG this shouild be very easy you just need for each 22 or 21 the coords in your matrix I would have each scenario implemented for avaiablity in XML scenario id=scene_001 terrain x=1 y=1 occupier=21/ terrain x=2 y=1 occupier=21/ terrain x=3 y=1 occupier=21/ terrain x=4 y=1 occupier=22/ ... terrain x=150 y=150 occupier=22/ /scenario then you could use XSLT or ECMAScript to convert this to rect in SVG Dom: take each location, use it inform the atribbutue values of rects or circles etc svg width=150 height150 rect x=1 y=1 height=1 width=1 fill=rgb(255,0,0)/ rect x=2 y=1 height=1 width=1 fill=rgb(255,0,0)/ rect x=3 y=1 height=1 width=1 fill=rgb(255,0,0)/ rect x=4 y=1 height=1 width=1 fill=rgb(255,0,255)/ ... terrain x=150 y=150 height=1 width=1 fill=rgb (0,0,255)/ /svg HTH Garry --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, reindeer21005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am new to SVG and not even sure if an SVG application is the right approach.! It is a 2D problem consisting of 150 x 150 values representaive of terrain ownership - 150 rows - . . ... . . . ... . 22 22 22 21 22 22 22 22 21 21 22 22 . . . .... . . . . .... . 22 22 22 ... 22 22 ^ | 150 cols a value of 22 means RED forces own that sub-area and I want to place a red rectangle there and a 21 is BLUE and I will place a blue rectangle there. The result will be 2D grid of blue and red rectangles. First is SVG a possibility ? Assuming it is, what steps should I take to get the actual SVG ? That is to get from a file of 21s and 22s to a pleasing 2D representation that one can look at and make decisions. Should I write some Java and/or XSLT ? I am a programmer familiar with Java, XML, ... and will teach myself SVG if I should. Any positive suggestions are appreciated. - Andrew M. Neiderer US Army Research Lab - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Highlighting question
on the mouseOver issue - i can't tell why it's happening, but I can tell you what is happening... i loaded a map - rolled the mouse around, and after a few mouseOvers there was some overs that wouldn't show, but these seemed to be repeatable so I really zoomed in at this point I noticed that the lines allso have different mouseOver function rolling quickly from one polygon, over path, onto the next polygon seems to create the condition first polygone - mouseOver - changes state - fill grey - MouseOut - changes state - fill defualt line - mouseOver - change state - stroke blue - mouseOut - change state - stoke default next polyGon - mouseOver - failed rolling mouse slowly doesn't fail the mousOver this suggest it is an instruction set problem, and that the viewers you are using cannot handle the focus change so quickly i have no idea how you might change this... just letting you know what I saw --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Bart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (cross-posted because of question overlap) Hey all, I'm building a map interface and the mouseover events don't seem to trigger like I think they should. I essentially have three data types, namely points, lines and areas, which are: circle (fill only, stroke:none, pointer-events: visibleFill), line (stroke only, fill:none, pointer-events: visibleStroke) and area (fill only, stroke:none, pointer-events: visibleFill) elements in SVG (the CSS set via classes). However, it seems to regularly decide to not react or decide a part of an area isn't part of it in terms of mouseover. `It' being ASV3 and Batik (I havent tested on more), which seem to do do the same thing, so it may be because of data, although the viewers seems to differ a little in what areas they react to, and it may be my delusion but it also seems to vary with zoom level even when zooming is just viewBox alteration. Possibly related is the fact that the help button seems to sometimes stop working. Event overload, perhaps? The SVG is at: http://svg.scarfboy.com/newiface/test.svg (I may be working on it and break it) The simplest example layer would be 'quads': the left area only responds to part of it, apparently only on the right (and bottom) sides of it. Another question: most of it seems to work in Batik, except dragging (which I disabled and reimplemented), which makes squiggle stop drawing. Any idea what could cause it to react like that? Greet, --Bart - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] text, cursor, overlays, etc
in ASV3 - and some other browser - because of the lack of cursor implementation we use a shape overlay to stop the text tool being avaiable on non-editable text because asv6 has cursor this is not essential however, would you say it was still good practice? g id='non_editable_text' text id='text'hello world/text rect id='overlay'/ /g - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] ASV 6 Stability
How stable is AV6 ? There are few items in ASV that we'd like to bring forward into client work. The users will be discreetly supported, so using ASV - and getting them to download is no problem and offer support is same. The issues are: stability - will it survive user mania? compatibility - will it run alongside asv3? - is it backwards-compatible with asv3? - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Gauss with rounded corner
you may also want add the x and y to the filter with negative amounts so you can see the full effect of the filter glad it worked for you Garry svg xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; width=100% height=100% desc !-- put a description here -- /desc defs filter id=gaussFilter x=-100% y=-100% width=500% height=500% feGaussianBlur stdDeviation=4 / feOffset dx=1.0 dy=2.0 / /filter /defs rect id=underlying rx=5 ry=5 width=117 height=23.0 x=333.3 y=300.0 class=gauss filter=url(#gaussFilter) set attributeName=fill attributeType=CSS begin=button.click to=red/ /rect rect id=button height=20.0 rx=5 ry=5 stroke=black width=112.5 x=333.3 y=300.0 set attributeName=fill attributeType=CSS begin=click to=red/ /rect /svg --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Manuel Cañ³® L󰥺 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The effect of the Gaussian filtr is to spread out the element by diffusion - as result what you seeing is not that the blur has square corners, you are just seeing a limited view Great... I did not realize until now of the limited view... Can i suggest that, for test purposes, you do the following: 1) Move the underlying element away from the button so you can see some changes 2) add height and width to the filter element by % try 100% , 400%, 800% 3) change the StD of the blur try 10 5 2 4) change the rx and ry of your underlying rect try 115 65 40 20 I think this might help you understand what the filter is doing Yes, it did! thanks i changed your code like this svg xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; width=100% height=100% desc !-- put a description here -- /desc defs filter id=gaussFilter width=800% height=800% feGaussianBlur stdDeviation=5.0/ feOffset dx=4.0 dy=2.0/ /filter /defs rect id=underlying rx=20 ry=20 width=117 height=23.0 x=333.3 y=300.0 class=gauss filter=url(#gaussFilter) set attributeName=fill attributeType=CSS begin=element1.click to=red/ /rect rect id=button height=20.0 rx=5 ry=5 stroke=black width=112.5 x=333.3 y=300.0 set attributeName=fill attributeType=CSS begin=element1.click to=red/ /rect /svg please let me know if this helps... It helped a lot, overall the width and height filter attribute.. now it looks great. Thanks again! - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Adobe SVG Zone with new design
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Holger Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone maybe i m a bit late, but anyone noticed that Adobe has redesigned their SVG pages: http://www.adobe.com/svg/ Adobe has taken a leadership role in the development of the SVG specification and continues to ensure that its authoring tools are SVG compatible. thats a clear sign, that Adobe will not drop SVG support :-) all the best Holger I suspect that amongst their motives the purchase of Macromedia is to make Flash player capable of playing both SWF/SVG - this will give the much better desktop penetration, and remove some of the competetion for their creation tools and at the same time expand their competencies. Adobe (for all their sins) have been pretty good at player the standards game, and although PDF is proprieray format they have pretty much 'opened' it up post-definition and as long as you use their definition they have been pretty relaxed about copyright control - to the point where they encourage 3rd party software development... I also think their commitment to open standards like SVG will play nicely with the anti-trust regulators in the US and Europe. - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: [that damned] beginElement()
the question remains: what is the best way to programmtically begin an animation that you have added thru the DOM ? i would still say beginElement is the way to go. one way that is stable, add the animate tag by hand, and just change the attributes via script. hth Holger the beginElement() method does not work in this context - we have established that i think yes, an alternative is add the animate to the defs and link to it when the object has been created (i'll probably also do this from a defs too) -- although I havent tested this method yet(!) agains, Holder, thanks for your thoughts Garry - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: how to draw rialroad line style in SVG
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, zhg331 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: any help? --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, zhg331 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi group, I am a beginner with SVG. I want to know is there any way to draw railroad-like line with SVG. many thanks If you mean is there a style for the line element that would give you a double-line, then I think the answer is no - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/