Re: [systemd-devel] how to use per-user systemd --user services / how to replace /etc/xdg/autostart/app.desktop?

[Simon McVittie]

On 16/06/16 14:10, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 12:32:24PM +, Patrick Schleizer wrote:
>> Using Debian jessie (stable) with systemd package version 215-17+deb8u4.
> 
> I'd suggest looking at existing user units present in
> Debian, converting some more packages where this makes sense, and
> submitting those unit files to the Debian maintainers to integrate
> them in the distribution or upstream.

This sort of structural change is not going to be included in Debian 8
"jessie" - that would defeat the purpose of a long-term stable
distribution. Please develop patches against Debian testing/unstable, so
that they can go into the *next* stable Debian release (Debian 9
"stretch". You can also incorporate those patches into your
locally-installed packages on jessie if you want, but Debian package
maintainers certainly won't apply them to jessie.

A good starting point is to turn D-Bus session services into systemd
user units, as I already did for a few packages (for example
evolution-data-server and gnome-terminal-server). I have mostly been
submitting these as patches upstream, with backports into older upstream
versions in Debian testing/unstable in some cases.

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Re: [systemd-devel] Sync mail with offlineimap via systemd service/timer; getting password from gnome keyring

[Simon McVittie]

On 16/06/16 12:01, Ruben Verweij wrote:
> However, I am storing my password via the gnome-keyring and retrieving
> it via `secret-tool lookup user [user] domain gmail.com
> `.
...
> I already found out that the problem might lie in the dbus
> communication, but I'm not sure how to fix it. Can anyone provide an
> insight?

If you want non-X11 environments to have a D-Bus session bus, you need
to configure dbus >= 1.10 with --enable-user-session at compile time. On
Debian derivatives, install the dbus-user-session package; on
non-Debian-derived distributions, it might be enabled unconditionally
(as on recent Fedora and Arch), or there might be some equivalent step
you have to take, or it might even not be possible at all.

libsecret uses D-Bus to communicate with gnome-keyring, which is why
this is relevant.

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