t-and-f: USATF Release: Strong U.S. men's team to compete at WUGs
Contact:Jill M. Geer Director of Communications, USATF http://www.usatf.org FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Saturday, August 25, 2001 Team USA men's squad looks strong for World University Games BEIJING - Some of the United States' top athletes will compete at the World University Games track and field competition August 27-September 1 at the National Olympic Sports Center in Beijing. The Games run August 22-Sept. 1 and are held throughout China's capital city. NCAA champions, Olympians and World Championships competitors highlight the Team USA's track and field delegation, which is by far the largest team of the U.S. contingent in Beijing. Eighty-five of the United States' 183 total athletes will compete in track and field at the Games. Forty-two men and forty-three men will represent Team USA at the track. Those with recent international experience include 2000 Olympian Michael Stember (1,500m) and 2001 World Championships participants Russ Buller (pole vault), Brian Clay (decathlon), Anthony Famiglietti (steeplechase), Miguel Pate (LJ), Derrick Peterson (800m) and Andrew Pierce (4x400m relay). Among the Americans with the strongest medal chances in men's competition are: · Russ Buller, pole vault: 2000 NCAA indoor and outdoor champion for Louisiana State, 2001 World Championships competitor, personal best of 5.81m/19-0.75 · Anthony Famiglietti, steeplechase: 2001 U.S. runner-up and World Championships participant, personal best of 8:21.00 · Jay Harvard, hammer throw: 2001 U.S. runner-up, personal best of 73.17/240-0 · Aubrey Herring, 110m hurdles: 2001 NCAA Indoor 60m hurdles champion and Outdoor runner-up for Indiana State, personal best of 13.42 · Bayano Kamani, 400m hurdles: 2001 NCAA champion and 2000 NCAA runner-up for Baylor, personal best of 48.43 · Matt Lane, 5,000m: 4th at 2000 U.S. Olympic Trials, 2001 NCAA Outdoor and 2000 NCAA Indoor runner-up for William Mary, personal best of 13:25.38 · Miguel Pate, long jump: 2001 U.S. runner-up, fourth at 2001 World Championships, fifth at 2001 NCAA Outdoor for Alabama, personal best of 8.26m/27-1.25 · Derrick Peterson, 800m: 1999 WUGs bronze medalist, 2000 NCAA indoor champion, 1999 NCAA indoor champ for Missouri; 2001 U.S. runner-up and World Championships participant · Andrew Pierce, 400m, 4x400m relay: 2001 NCAA indoor runner-up for Ohio State, 2001 U.S. indoor runner-up, ran leg in rounds of 4x400m for Team USA at 2001 World Championships, personal best of 44.87 · Jonathan Riley, 5,000m: 2001 NCAA Outdoor champion, 8th at 1999 World University Games for Stanford, personal best of 13:36.69 · Michael Stember, 1,500m: 2000 Olympian, 9-time track All-American, 4th at 1999 World University Games for Stanford University, personal best of 3:35.11 · Jess Strutzel, 800m: 2000 NCAA Indoor Champion for UCLA, 3rd at 2001 U.S. Outdoors, personal best of 1:45.81 · 4x400m relay: Andrew Pierce, Thomas Gerding (6th NCAA outdoor '01), Geno White (3rd NCAA indoor '01), Brandon Couts (1st NCAA indoor '00) The Team USA staff is head coach Ralph Lindeman (Air Force Academy), assistant coach Bart Williams (Contra Costa College), Assistant Coach Peter Zinno (New York Institute of Technology), head manager James Li (Washington State) and assistant manager Robert Budke (Lopez High School-Arroyo Grande, Calif). American athletes hold five World University Games men's records in track and field: 100m (10.07, Lee McRae, 1987); 3,000m steeplechase (8:21.26, John Gregorek, 1981); 4x400m relay (3:00.40, Ryan Hayden, Leonard Byrd, Andre Morris, Anthuan Maybank, 1995); triple jump (17.86m/58-7.25, Charlie Simpkins, 1985); and shot put (21.11m/68-5, Andy Bloom, 1999). For complete Team USA track and field coverage, visit www.usatf.org. For coverage of all World University Games Team USA sports and events, visit www.usoc.org. For results of the World University Games, visit http://info.u21.org.cn Team USA men's track and field entries by event, 2001 World University Games (subject to change) 100m: Marcus Brunson (Arizona State), Gerald Williams (Mt. SAC) 200m: Josephus Howard (South Carolina), Kaaron Conwright (Cal Poly-SLO) 400m: Andrew Pierce (Ohio State), Thomas Gerding (Minnesota) 800m: Derrick Peterson (Missouri), Jess Strutzel (UCLA) 1,500m: Michael Stember (Stanford) 3,000m Steeplechase: Anthony Famiglietti (Tennessee), Steve Slattery (Colorado) 5,000m: Matt Lane (Williams Mary), Jonathan Riley (Stanford) 10,000m: Matt Downin (Wisconsin), Brandon Leslie (Adams State) Half-Marathon: David Bazzi (Washington), Brian Sell (St. Francis) 110m hurdles: Aubrey Herring (Indiana State), Ron Bramlett (Arizona) 400m hurdles: Bayano Kamani (Baylor), Frederick Sharpe (Auburn) High Jump: Tora Harris (Princeton), Shawn Guice (Purdue) Pole Vault: Russ Buller (LSU), Brian Hunter (Texas) Long Jump: Miguel Pate (Alabama), Kenta Bell (Northwestern State) Triple Jump: Kenta Bell (Northwestern State),
t-and-f: USATF Release: Experienced women's team set for WUGs
Contact:Jill M. Geer Director of Communications, USATF http://www.usatf.org FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Saturday, August 25, 2001 Experienced Women's Team Set For World University Games BEIJING - Two Olympians and eight Team athletes from the 2001 World Outdoor Track Field Championships will lead the U.S. women at the World University Games track and field competition August 27-September 1 at the National Olympic Sports Center in Beijing. The Games run August 22-Sept. 1 and are held throughout China's capital city. NCAA champions, Olympians and World Championships competitors highlight the Team USA's track and field delegation, which is by far the largest team of the U.S. contingent in Beijing. Eighty-five of the United States' 183 total athletes will compete in track and field at the Games. Forty-two men and forty-three men will represent Team USA at the track. Erin Aldrich (high jump) and Mikele Barber (4x400m relay pool alternate) were members of the Team USA delegation at the 2000 Olympic Games in Sydney, and bring their international experience to Beijing. Aldrich and Barber also competed at the 2001 World Championships in Edmonton, along with fellow World University Games competitors Me'Lisa Barber (4x400m relay pool), Tracy O'Hara (pole vault), Yuliana Perez (triple jump), Melissa Price (hammer throw), Brenda Taylor (400m hurdles) and Demetria Washington (400m, 4x400m relay). Among the Americans with the strongest medal chances in women's competition are: · Erin Aldrich, high jump: 2000 and 1998 NCAA outdoor champion for Texas, 1999 and '98 NCAA indoor champion, 2000 Olympian, personal best of 1.97m/6-5.5 · Mikele (Miki) Barber, 400m: 2000 NCAA outdoor champion, 2000 NCAA indoor runner-up, 6-time All-American in 400 and 200 for South Carolina, member of 2000 Olympic 4x400m relay pool; personal best of 50.63. · Danielle Caruthers, 100m hurdles: 2001 NCAA runner-up for Indiana, personal best of 12.96 · Sara Day, 10,000m: 2001 NCAA runner-up for Wake Forest, personal best of 33:20.23 · Mary Jayne Harrelson, 1,500m: 2001 NCAA outdoor champion for Appalachian State, 2001 NCAA outdoor runner-up; personal best of 4:07.37 · Kim Kreiner, javelin: 2001 U.S. outdoor champion, Kent State, personal best of 57.22m/187-9 · GiGi Miller, heptathlon: 2001 U.S. runner-up, University of Arkansas, personal best of 5925 points · Tracy O'Hara, pole vault: 2000 NCAA indoor and outdoor champion; 2001 NCAA indoor and outdoor runner-up for UCLA; fourth at 2001 U.S. championships, personal best of 4.45m/14-7.25 · Yuliana Perez, triple jump: 2001 U.S. runner-up and World Champs participant; 2001 JUCO national champion for Pima CC, personal best of 14.19/46-6.75 · Melissa Price, hammer throw: 2001 U.S. 3rd place and World Champs finalist, 2000 NCAA runner-up for Nebraska, personal best of 66.25/217-4 · Brenda Taylor, 400m hurdles: 2001 NCAA champion; 2001 NCAA woman of the year for track and field for Harvard, 2001 World Champs participant, personal best of 55.46. · Demetria Washington, 400m: 2001 NCAA indoor champion, NCAA outdoor runner-up for South Carolina, 6-time All-American at 400m and 200m for South Carolina, fourth at U.S. championships, personal best of 51.26 set in semifinals of 2001 World Championships. · 4x400m relay: Mikele Barber (NCAA Outdoor champ '00); Me'Lisa Barber (6th NCAA Outdoor '01); Demetria Washington (NCAA Indoor champ '01; 2nd, NCAA Outdoor '01, '00); Carolyn Jackson (5th NCAA Outdoor '00); Maushauni Robinson (3rd, NCAA Outdoor '01) Team captains are Aldrich, Mikele Barber and Harrelson. The Team USA staff is head coach Craig Poole (Brigham Young University), assistant coach Angela Goodman (Michigan State), assistant coach Qingyi Zheng (UNLV), head manager Rich Torrellas (USA Track Field), assistant manager Sandy Snow (USA Track Field). Team USA holds the record for the women's 4x100m relay at the World University Games, 42.40 set in 1989 by the team of Michelle Finn, Anita Howard, Lamonda Miller and Esther Jones. For complete Team USA track and field coverage, visit www.usatf.org. For coverage of all World University Games Team USA sports and events, visit www.usoc.org. For results of the World University Games, visit http://info.u21.org.cn Team USA men's track and field entries by event, 2001 World University Games (subject to change) 100m: Tania Woods (San Francisco), Teneeshia Jones (Mississippi) 200m: Jimyria Hicks (Oklahoma), Myra Jaune Combs (LSU) 400m: Demetria Washington (South Carolina), Mikele Barber (South Carolina) 800m: Tamieke Grizzle (Florida), Sasha Spencer (Georgetown) 1,500m: Mary Jayne Harrelson (Appalachian State), Janelle Deatherage (Wisconsin) 5,000m: Melissa Gulli (Texas AM), Sally Glynn (Stanford) 10,000m: Sara Day (Wake Forest), Janelle Kraus (Wake Forest) Half-Marathon: Marina Kruppa (Georgetown) 100m hurdles: Danielle Caruthers (Indiana), Ellakisha Williamson
t-and-f: Comments and results of Brussels, Ivo van Damme
LS Travelling back from Brussels by train I thought I'd share some comments and the main results of the 25th Ivo van Damme Memorial. For starters: WHAT A GREAT MEETING, once again. Ivo van Meert (and colleagues, volunteers, etc). got a magnificent celebration edition in front of a 45.000 crowd. Not only IOC chief Jacq. Rogge but also the Belgian King came to see a world record, a junior word record, a great 1500 (nearly world) record and some great sprints. First: this is not the first (male) world record in a 'settled' event this year. Some people in Brussels seemed to have forgotten the 9026 decathlon by Sebrle already. But is was the best steeple race ever (in my opinion, anyway) - even without Barmasai and Boit Kipketer (boy o boy, just imagine they would have been there). With results courtesy IAAF Media department, some scattered comments (on Johnson - both, Suzy Favor Hamilton, and others). IAAF Golden League Memorial Van Damme - Bruxelles, 24-Aug-2001 WK: It was my first Golden League visit of this year, but if they are all like this: what a shame these meetings are 'behind' a decoder here in Europe, so very few people see it. Atmosphere, spectators, top level performances and results - everything is there for a good night of athletics. Although I am much more a championships person myself, I must admit programs like this are much better and more interesting for the general public than those of championships like in Edmonton (10 days is simply too much - too little action in the night/evenings sessions. If a European championships can be done in 6 days - like Budapest and Munich 2002 - why can't a world championships be organised in 8, maybe 7?) Anyway. RESULTS MEN 100 METRES - MEN Wind: +0.0 1 Montgomery Tim USA 9.96 2 Boldon Ato TRI 10.04 3 Zakari Abdul AzizGHA 10.04 7 Douglas Troy NED 10.20 Two fotofinishes, twofold for 4/5, threefold for 6-8. 100 m supremacy is clear: Greene is the man, Montgomery steps in if MG has too much pain in his knee. With a good performance once again for Troy Douglas - who (at 38!) came back this season from a two year ban of international compettions (after a much criticised nandrolone testlfinding in '99 - the IAAF hearing on his case is still pending...). After his WC semi of 10.09 (non-ratified Dutch record because of the wind gauge malfunction) he promised two national records: in Zurich he broke the 100 meter clocking 10.19, the 200 meter is under threat possibly coming sunday. Does anyone know the best 100 m time for 38-year olds (and/or 39). GP 200 METRES - MEN Wind: +0.1 1 Johnson Joshua J.USA 19.88 12.0 2 Williams Bernard USA 20.01 10.0 3 Malcolm ChristianGBR 20.09 9.0 4 Boldon Ato TRI 20.24 8.0 5 Zakari Abdul AzizGHA 20.27 7.0 9 Little Kevin USA 20.58 WHO? INDEED! Some in the press stands thought it was Obikwelu who won because he was in lane 8. But the Koning Boudewijn stadium has a ninth lane and there ran JOSHUA (J.J.) JOHNSON. In capitals, because this is a man to watch. Breaking your personal best by 0.6 seconds (!), from an outside lane and beating several world championships finalists! Don't remember this myself, but supposedly he didn't even lead coming of the bend. JJ Johnson, acccording to his GL bio, ran the US 4x1 heats in Edmonton since he got like 7th in the US trials. Apparantly, he didn't make the 200 m final there. Somebody in the press stands said Johnson is a former basketball player (if that's true and we remember Marion Jones - maybe that's where we should scout talent (:-) GP 800 METRES - MEN Pts 1 Borzakovskiy Yuriy RUS1:42.47 12.0 2 Bucher André SUI1:42.75 10.0 3 Hatungimana Arthémon BDI1:43.38 9.0 7 Som Bram NED1:44.63 5.0 Kiptoo David KENDNF Schumann NilsGERDNF WK: Oh, what a shame this guy did not show in the worlds. Bucher led coming into the final straight, but Borzakovskiy came from behind as he always does and broke (still only one year older than a junior) the Russian record. Dutchman Som ran a decent race clocking one of the top-5 times of his career. GP 1500 METRES - MEN Pts 1 El Guerrouj Hicham MAR3:26.12 12.0 2 Lagat BernardKEN3:26.34 10.0 3 Chirchir William KEN3:29.29 9.0 4 Rotich Laban KEN3:31.64 8.0
t-and-f: re: Van Damme 200 Results
Did you guys also notice Joshua Johnson's reaction time? From the Van Damme Web site: 1 214 JOHNSON, Joshua USA MR 19.88 0.242 2 182 WILLIAMS, Bernard USA 20.01 0.163 3 181 MALCOM, Christian GBR 20.09 0.174 4 183 BOLDON, Ato TRI 20.24 0.180 5 188 ZAKARI , Abdul Aziz GHA 20.27 0.165 6 216 OBIKWELU, Francis NGR 20.33 0.161 7 213 BUCKLAND, Stéphane MRI 20.42 0.168 8 217 DEVONISH, Marlon GBR 20.50 0.153 9 212 LITTLE, Kevin USA 20.58 0.158 BY FAR the slowest reaction time of the bunch, assuming the above is correct. Perhaps he was running scared after what appears to have been a lousy start. For someone with apparently so little experience in the sport, that could help explain such a huge breakthrough. Brian Kavanaugh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: t-and-f: Croghan vs Kennedy
In a message dated 8/25/01 12:12:39 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why do you rate Kennedy in a class above Croghan? I think if you compare their international records you would find them pretty comparable. Because Kennedy has been top 10 world ranked and has outperformed him on the clock .. Better check your stats before making such comments...Croghan was ranked # 4 in the world in 1993 and 1994...Kennedy was #4 in 1994, #6 in 1996...Kennedy has a slight edge on timeCroghan has 11 of the 15 fastest times ever by an American, Kennedy 14 of 15. Walt Murphy
RE: t-and-f: Top 10 list: What's your best running song ever?
In the movie 'Personal Best' Al Feuerbach, formerly of the Two Big Guys Track Club (now called One Skinny Guy, One Little Runt), performed his original song 'Diannabol'. Anyone remember the words? Anyone hear the message? Or do we just bounce our heads while humming ...smiling happy people... to ourselves? Break's over, heads back in you're ^$$=$ malmo oooh. Even more esoteric. Ok then. New Order's Run(stolen from John Denver) off Technique. A little more mainstream-Steppenwolf's Born to be Wild. I also dare you not to do a workout after watching Peter Strauss running in the Jericho Mile to the strains of Sympathy for the Devil. Weren't some actual late 70s runners recruited for some of the running scenes in that movie? Maybe some of your cohorts malmo? Regards, Martin
RE: t-and-f: Top 10 list: What's your best running song ever?
damn homonyms Break's over, heads back in you're ^$$=$ malmo oooh. Even more esoteric. Ok then. New Order's Run(stolen from John Denver) off Technique. A little more mainstream-Steppenwolf's Born to be Wild. I also dare you not to do a workout after watching Peter Strauss running in the Jericho Mile to the strains of Sympathy for the Devil. Weren't some actual late 70s runners recruited for some of the running scenes in that movie? Maybe some of your cohorts malmo? Regards, Martin
RE: RE: t-and-f: SI article about most overrated and underrated
Neither Padilla nor Maree ever got close to a medal. You did, however, overlook someone who did get a medal, Brian Diemer, and presumably he would be a ...legitimate distance threat by default. Simply stated, I think an at his best Pre today would give the US the ability to talk about a medal hope at something above 400 meters on the track .. And I am surprised that everyone has allowed Kennedy to be put in the overrated category in an earlier post when he has been the only real legitimate distance threat the US has had since Padilla, Marsh and Maree (oops another import) .. Conway Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 8:24 PM Subject: Re: RE: t-and-f: SI article about most overrated and underrated In a message dated 8/24/2001 7:31:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Big fish in a fairly small pond. Even in the US distance Golden Age, holding a bunch of US NRs is admirable, but not that big a deal in the overall picture. It's kind of like holding all the basketball national scoring and rebounding records in Canada. Kurt Bray You know something, I'm 52 years old and have been running since freshman year HS and I have never seen another runner like Steve Prefontaine. I also greatly admired Gerry Lindgren, Herb Elliot, Peter Snell and Jim Ryun. Is Pre over rated? I don't think so. His achievements actually are huge when you consider that today's elite runners don't even attempt to run the range of races that Pre excelled at. But actually, I find all this stuff on the list knocking Pre pretty boring and stupid. But I guess typing is a lot less tiring than running. JT
RE: t-and-f: SI article about most overrated and underrated
Croghan hasn't been top 10 ranked? Cudda fooled me. Outperformed him on the clock? Yeah right, what's Kennedy's best steeple, nine minutes? Don't you start reciting girly-boy flat races on me. They don't count. malmo Wayne wrote: Why do you rate Kennedy in a class above Croghan? I think if you compare their international records you would find them pretty comparable. Because Kennedy has been top 10 world ranked and has outperformed him on the clock .. Conway Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: t-and-f: Comments and results of Brussels, Ivo van Damme
--- Wilmar Kortleever [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1 Johnson Joshua J.USA 19.88 12.0 Somebody in the press stands said Johnson is a former basketball player Aha, I knew I wasn't (completely) imagining things. That's the story I heard, but someone told me off-list that Johnson ran in high school, so maybe there was some mixing up of the story and it's his first year running since high school? Dan = http://AccountBiller.com - MyCalendar, D-Man, ReSearch, etc. http://Run-Down.com - 10,000 Running Links, Free Contests... @o Dan Kaplan - [EMAIL PROTECTED] |\/ ^- ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) _/ \ \/\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (lifetime forwarding address) / / (503)370-9969 phone/fax __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/
t-and-f: JJ Johnson
From the Ft. Worth Star-Telegram, prior to the USA Outdoor Championships: http://web.star-telegram.com/content/fortworth/2001/06/07/sports/fw010908-0607 -XD014-johnson.htm The Natural Basketball-turned track star J.J. Johnson of Pioneer Track Club is honing his raw ability to become one of the top sprinters in the country. By Khary K. McGhee f Star-Telegram Staff Writer J.J. Johnson is a self-made world-class sprinter, which, as you're probably thinking to yourself, isn't that easy to do. Johnson ran in a handful of high school meets and has no collegiate track experience. But he finds himself able to compete against the likes of Olympic and World champion Maurice Greene. Johnson began seriously training only about a year ago. But he finds himself ranked as one of the 15 fastest sprinters in the country. I've never seen anything like it, said Nic Scott, Johnson's coach and head of Pioneer Track Club in Arlington. This is so unreal. [Johnson] is stealing the glory from an experienced runner. It's a challenge, said Johnson, who had hoped for a career in professional basketball after attending Oklahoma Panhandle State University, an NCAA Division II school in Goodwell, Okla. I like the challenge. I believe that if you put your mind to it, you can do it. I want to dominate the track world, physically and mentally. Johnson is preparing for his biggest challenge. He will travel to Eugene, Ore., in a couple of weeks to compete at the USA Outdoor Track and Field Championships. A top-three finish in the 100 or 200 meters, the two events Johnson runs, would qualify him for the World Track and Field Championships in Edmonton, Alberta, Aug. 3-12. Johnson, a 1994 graduate of North Garland, didn't give the idea of becoming a world-class track athlete much thought. It was simply something Johnson wanted to try. After getting references from family and friends, Johnson asked Scott to train him. Scott was apprehensive. You have athletes that ran in college that don't want to run world class, Scott said. Those guys are all about business. It isn't fun. Scott showed Johnson several hours of tape of world-class competition, hoping that watching guys such as Greene and John Drummond dominating their competition might dissuade Johnson. After it was done, I told him that I didn't want to hear from him for a week, Scott said. I said that once we started, I wasn't going to stop, which meant he wasn't going to stop. A week later, Johnson called Scott, and they began training together. The tutelage has benefited Johnson and Scott, who has trained several post-collegiate runners over the years. Johnson has surged onto the track and field scene, posting the 13th-fastest times in the country in the 100 and 200 meters this season, according to usatf.org. Johnson finished the 100 at the Penn Relays in 10.25 seconds, and finished the 200 at a meet in Florida in 20.51 seconds. Scott is refreshed by Johnson's naivete when it comes to running. Virtually a novice when he began, Johnson has been receptive to teaching. And he is so new to the sport that certain distractions that bother many track athletes at this level don't faze Johnson. For instance, at the adidas Oregon Track Classic last weekend, Johnson drew Lane 1, regarded as perhaps the worst lane assignment in the 200 meters' staggered start. That didn't bother Johnson, and he finished third in 20.59 seconds. Most guys would have been like, 'Aw, man. I got Lane 1. I can't run in Lane 1,' Scott said. J.J. was like, 'Well, it's still 200 meters, isn't it?' Nobody has touched this kid. It's refreshing to talk to a guy that asks questions. Said Johnson: It's a good thing and a bad thing. I don't know how I should be acting at these meets. I don't know what to do all the time. But it's good because I can just go out and do what I'm supposed to. Khary K. McGhee, (817) 548-5419 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
t-and-f: J.J. Johnson
BestFares.com, which publishes a magazine and runs a website devoted to airline, hotel, cruise, etc. bargains, seems to have some sort of interest in J.J. Johnson. A box in the August issue of the magazine, headed J.J. Johnson Goes International, notes that our favorite athlete, J.J. Johnson, has been making auspicious advances during the outdoor track and field season. It notes that he was then ranked as one of the 15 fastest sprinters in the country, that he was second in the 100m at the Princeton Invitational and third in the 200m at the Adidas Oregon Classic, and that his impressive performance at the Nationals gave him the opportunity to travel with the U.S. team to meets in England. Mr. Johnson has left his position with IBM to focus his energies on success, train full time and take advantage of opportunities earned, such as European travel and competition. It describes him as having Nicholson Scott of the Pioneer Track Club as a coach. Bill Allen
Re: RE: t-and-f: SI article about most overrated and underrated
In a message dated Sat, 25 Aug 2001 12:07:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hey im wondering, who does alan webb have a poster of on his wall? how bout stember, or ritzenhein? PREFONTAINE. another thing, every single professional athlete ought to thank pre for his work in that department . . thanks to him and other like him, greene, johnson, kennedy, jones, jacobs, et al dont have to make a choice between the olympics and making money. One of the great myths propogated by the deify-Pre machine. gh
t-and-f: 19.88 by J.J. Johnson
Statistically, the 19.88 is equal 11th on the All-time US 200 list. And has far as I can tell, it is the best performance ever for Lane 9 in the 200. Perhaps, Jed Brickner can verify this. George
t-and-f: J.J. Johnson
Not quite a Delano Meriwether, who I recall was somewhat more advanced in years when he started out, but a little like? Bill Allen
Re: t-and-f: J.J. Johnson
William H. Allen wrote: Not quite a Delano Meriwether, who I recall was somewhat more advanced in years when he started out, but a little like? Bill Allen Merryweather had more experience than he let on. He was competing in open meets as early as '66. I have an old program showing him and myself competing in the same event (300 yd) in the '66 All-Ohio Indoor Meet. This was 4 years or so before he supposedly was watching a meet on TV and decided that he could beat everyone. -- Wayne T. Armbrust, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computomarx 3604 Grant Ct. Columbia MO 65203-5800 USA (573) 445-6675 (voice FAX) http://www.Computomarx.com Know the difference between right and wrong... Always give your best effort... Treat others the way you'd like to be treated... - Coach Bill Sudeck (1926-2000)
Re: t-and-f: J.J. Johnson
That's interesting. But at least I'm confident my spelling is right. Bill Allen - Original Message - From: Wayne T. Armbrust [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: T and F List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 6:24 PM Subject: Re: t-and-f: J.J. Johnson William H. Allen wrote: Not quite a Delano Meriwether, who I recall was somewhat more advanced in years when he started out, but a little like? Bill Allen Merryweather had more experience than he let on. He was competing in open meets as early as '66. I have an old program showing him and myself competing in the same event (300 yd) in the '66 All-Ohio Indoor Meet. This was 4 years or so before he supposedly was watching a meet on TV and decided that he could beat everyone. -- Wayne T. Armbrust, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ComputomarxT 3604 Grant Ct. Columbia MO 65203-5800 USA (573) 445-6675 (voice FAX) http://www.Computomarx.com Know the difference between right and wrong... Always give your best effort... Treat others the way you'd like to be treated... - Coach Bill Sudeck (1926-2000)
Re: t-and-f: J.J. Johnson
William H. Allen wrote: That's interesting. But at least I'm confident my spelling is right. Bill Allen That's how it is in the old program I have. My name, often butchered, is spelled right. Merryweather had more experience than he let on. He was competing in open meets as early as '66. I have an old program showing him and myself competing in the same event (300 yd) in the '66 All-Ohio Indoor Meet. This was 4 years or so before he supposedly was watching a meet on TV and decided that he could beat everyone. -- Wayne T. Armbrust, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computomarx 3604 Grant Ct. Columbia MO 65203-5800 USA (573) 445-6675 (voice FAX) http://www.Computomarx.com Know the difference between right and wrong... Always give your best effort... Treat others the way you'd like to be treated... - Coach Bill Sudeck (1926-2000)
Re: t-and-f: SI article about most overrated and underrated
Sorry .. Dumb sprinter here forgot about the barrier race and was only looking at/comparing the flat races ... Guess I should stick to looking at the sprints .. :o) Croghan has been one of our best steeplers, although I would like to see him take the steeple record down as Kennedy did the 5000 .. Conway Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: malmo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Conway' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Wayne T. Armbrust' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 7:25 AM Subject: RE: t-and-f: SI article about most overrated and underrated Croghan hasn't been top 10 ranked? Cudda fooled me. Outperformed him on the clock? Yeah right, what's Kennedy's best steeple, nine minutes? Don't you start reciting girly-boy flat races on me. They don't count. malmo Wayne wrote: Why do you rate Kennedy in a class above Croghan? I think if you compare their international records you would find them pretty comparable. Because Kennedy has been top 10 world ranked and has outperformed him on the clock .. Conway Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
t-and-f: DNFs: a growing trend?
Are there any statistics about the historical occurrence of DNFs in track and field? (leaving aside rabbits) Is it my imagination, or are they on the increase? The comment I knew I wasn't going to win (or move on to the final), so why bother? seems to have come up more frequently in the past few years. This is often couched in the 'why-bother-risking-(further)-injury' concept. If DNFs are on the increase, does it say something about a change in psychology among athletes or in the culture of (professional) athletics? Or sports in general. Or 'society' in general (though it would be interesting to see if there are cross-cultural differences in the rate of bailing a race). Sandra
Re: t-and-f: DNFs: a growing trend?
Intriguing question: Let me suggest that if the reason for running is to make money, DNF often makes sense, but if the reason is to prove how tough you are, DNF is failure. Tom Derderian - Original Message - From: Sandrak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 9:00 PM Subject: t-and-f: DNFs: a growing trend? Are there any statistics about the historical occurrence of DNFs in track and field? (leaving aside rabbits) Is it my imagination, or are they on the increase? The comment I knew I wasn't going to win (or move on to the final), so why bother? seems to have come up more frequently in the past few years. This is often couched in the 'why-bother-risking-(further)-injury' concept. If DNFs are on the increase, does it say something about a change in psychology among athletes or in the culture of (professional) athletics? Or sports in general. Or 'society' in general (though it would be interesting to see if there are cross-cultural differences in the rate of bailing a race). Sandra
t-and-f: Stockholm Grand Prix On US Cable TV
In an odd bit of programming my schedule shows the Oxygen network (channel 251 on DIRECTV, don't even know how many cable systems carry it) will show 2 hours of coverage of the Stockholm Grand Prix at 7:00 am and again at 4:00 PM central time tomorrow August 26. Over five weeks after the fact seems a long time to wait to show almost anything. David Donley
t-and-f: trivia
Can anyone name the 2 runners behind Pre in the photo in the SI article naming Pre overrated?
Re: t-and-f: J.J. Johnson
Message text written by Wayne T. Armbrust That's how it is in the old program I have. Program's wrong. Bill Allen is right.
Re: t-and-f: DNFs: a growing trend?
In a message dated 8/25/01 9:18:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Let me suggest that if the reason for running is to make money, DNF often makes sense, but if the reason is to prove how tough you are, DNF is failure. I remember some great runner back in the 70s saying I NEVER drop out of a race, no matter how bad I'm hurting. Once you do it, it becomes easier each time. Interesting in light of Suzy FH's latest travails. Jim Gerweck Running Times
t-and-f: USATF Release: Olympic Trio leads Team USA
Contact:Jill M. Geer Director of Communications http://www.usatf.org 317-261-0500 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Sunday, August 26, 2001 OLYMPIC TRIO LEAD TEAM USA AT WUGS BEIJING - The USA Track Field Team at the World University Games is not only Team USA's largest delegation, with 85 athletes, it is also the most internationally experienced on the world's biggest athletic stage. Three athletes - high jumper Erin Aldrich; 1,500-meter runner Michael Stember; and 400-meter runner Mikele Barber - traveled to Sydney last year as part of the Olympic Team. Aldrich and Stember competed in their individual events, while Barber was an alternate for the women's 4x400m relay team that ended up winning gold at the Games. Stember is perhaps the most internationally experienced athlete on the team. The 2001 Stanford graduate has been a star since his days as a national junior champion and 4:04 high school miler in Sacramento, California. As a collegian, Stember earned nine NCAA All-American honors on the track before graduating from Stanford this spring, and was fourth at the 1999 World University Games at 1,500m. He won a trip to Sydney by placing third in the 1,500 at the Olympic Trials in his hometown of Sacramento, and placed ninth in his semifinal heat at the Games. He has a personal-best time of 3:35.11, run in Monaco last year. A four-time NCAA champion from the University of Texas, Aldrich finished second at the Olympic Trials to earn her first Olympic berth. In Sydney, she finished 14th in the qualifying round and narrowly missed a spot in the 12-woman final. Aldrich also was the 2001 U.S. outdoor runner-up and competed at the 2001 World Outdoor Championships earlier this month in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. She has a personal best of 1.97 meters / 6 feet, 5.5 inches. Barber finished fifth at the Olympic Trials and was selected as an alternate for the Team USA 4x400m relay team in Sydney, although she did not compete. Barber has won two NCAA individual titles for the University of South Carolina, taking the 2000 NCAA outdoor title at 400m and the indoor title at 200m. She keeps good company at South Carolina, where her 400m training partners include her twin sister and fellow NCAA All-American, Me'Lisa, and 2001 NCAA indoor champion Demetria Washington. Me'Lisa and Demetria join Mikele, who goes by Miki, on the WUGs team. Miki Barber also competed in the first round of the 4x400m relay at the 2001 World Championships and has a personal best of 50.98. The track field team's international experience extends well beyond the Olympics - 13 athletes were on Team USA earlier this month at the World Championships in Edmonton: Aldrich (Texas), Me'Lisa Barber (South Carolina), Miki Barber (South Carolina), Tracy O'Hara (UCLA), Yuliana Perez (Pima CC), Melissa Price (Nebraska), Brenda Taylor (Harvard), Demetria Washington (South Carolina), Russ Buller (LSU); Brian Clay (decathlon), Anthony Famiglietti (Tennessee), Miguel Pate (Alabama), Derrick Peterson (Missouri), Andrew Pierce (Ohio State). Thirteen WUG athletes have previously competed at the World University Games: Kaaron Conwright (Cal Poly-SLO); Brandon Couts (Baylor); Al Heppner (San Diego State); Bayano Kamani (Baylor); Stephen Moore (Abilene Christian); Derrick Peterson (Missouri, 1999 WUG 800m bronze); Jonathan Riley (Stanford); Michael Stember (Stanford); Gerald Williams (Mt. SAC); Janelle Deatherage (Wisconsin); Mary Jayne Harrelson (Appalachian State); Melissa Price (Nebraska); Demetria Washington (South Carolina). Track field competition in Beijing begins August 27, with finals in the men's 10,000m and women's shot put. For complete Team USA track and field coverage, visit www.usatf.org. For coverage of all World University Games Team USA sports and events, visit www.usoc.org. For results of the World University Games, visit http://info.u21.org.cn # # #
Re: t-and-f: DNFs: a growing trend?
On Sat, 25 Aug 2001 23:34:01 EDT, you wrote: I remember some great runner back in the 70s saying I NEVER drop out of a race, no matter how bad I'm hurting. Once you do it, it becomes easier each time. Interesting in light of Suzy FH's latest travails. Jim Gerweck Running Times And a thousand high school coaches have passed down that wisdom every since. ...in their best Winston Churchill voice never give up!...never surrender!... battle them on the beaches!...battle them in the air!... Yes, it can become habit forming, but I tend to think an occasional DNF is not so bad, if worsening of an injury or 'laying you up' for seveal weeks would be the result of continuing. As long as it doesn't become a trend, and a bad habit. Two DNF's in a row is an indicator...perhaps sitting out a few weeks to recuperate and get therapy would be better that DNFing time after time. RT
t-and-f: Aouit and 3000mSC
P.F.Talbot wrote: Said Aouita at one time or another led the WORLD in every distance from 800m to 10,000m with the exception of the steeple which he never ran (the 3000m wasn't ranked back then but he certainly would have been #1). NOT TRUE. Said Aouita has a PR of 8:21.92 at the 3000mSC which was set when he was second to Labruschni in the 1987 Mediterranean Games. It was his first steeple since 1979 when he set an African junior steeple record of 8:40.2. This was also his first loss since he was second to Steve Cram in the epic 1500m race in 1985 in Nice. He was undefeated in 44 races. K. Ken Nakamura
Re: RE: RE: t-and-f: SI article about most overrated and underrated
In a message dated 8/25/2001 10:24:18 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Stiil overrated... those who die young (John F. Kennedy, etc) frequently are. Now thats about as simplistic and stupid a thing as I have ever read. JT
