t-and-f: Men's Best PV Heights For Age
As most coaches would know, in determining eligibility for youth or junior championships, the IAAF considers the age of the athlete to be based on the year, not the date of birth. Thus, a competitor born on January 1, 1992 and one born on December 31 are both considered to be 17 years old throughout the 2009 indoor and outdoor seasons. It seems to me unfair to have to compete in an age class with an opponent nearly a year older, and I’m not sure why IAAF adopted this strategy. Perhaps some reader knows the arguments for this and can offer clarification. Last month, when I posted best heights for female vaulters ages 12 to 17, I used the actual age on the day the height was accomplished. Since this involved visually comparing date of birth with date of competition for some 1200 instances, at least I came away with an appreciation of how much simpler it would be to do this sorting on the IAAF definition of age. Yesterday, in a moment of idle curiosity, I wondered what was the best height in the 2008 outdoor season for male vaulters of each age. This time, I chose to use the IAAF definition of the year of birth, rather than the date of birth and date of competition. That made it possible just to use the “find” function of the computer to sort for the highest mark in each birth year. What had taken perhaps fifty hours to summarize the women’s list took less than one hour for the men’s. The result might be of interest to some readers: 2008 Outdoor Men’s Best Height for Year of Birth 1967 – Jeff Hartwig USA 5.70 1968 – Andrei Fedotov MDA 5.10 1970 – Riaan Botha RSA 5.20 1972 – Derek MilesUSA 5.85 1973 – Laurens Looije NED 5.32 1974 – Alex AverbukhISR 5.55 1975 – Viktor ChistyakovRUS 5.60 1976 – Toby Stevenson USA 5.50 1977 – Danny Ecker GER 5.75 1978 – Denys Yurchenko UKR 5.83 1979 – Pavel Gerasimov RUS 5.80 1980 – Spas Buhalov BUL 5.70 1980 – Dachi Sawano JPN 5.70 1981 – Brad WalkerUSA 6.04 1982 – Steve Hooker AUS 6.00 1983 – Maksym MazurykUKR 5.82 1984 – Mark Hollis USA 5.75 1985 – Yevgeniy Lukyanenko RUS 6.01 1986 – Malte Mohr GER 5.76 1987 – Hiroki Ogita JPN 5.56 1988 – Jan Kudlicka CZE 5.70 1989 – Raphael HolzdeppeGER 5.80 1990 – Nico Weiler GER 5.30 1991 – Cheyne Rahme RSA 5.20 1992 – Nariharu Matsuzawa JPN 5.10 1993 and following – no vaulters at or over 5.00m, the lower limit of Mirko Jalava’s world deep list tilastopaja.org that I used as my data source.
t-and-f: Women's National Indoor PV Records
For U. S. and Canadian Vaulters, the real beginning of the indoor season is marked by the Reno Summit meet. The 2009 Summit is this week, which might make it a good time to review national records in the event. WOMEN'S NATIONAL INDOOR RECORDS a/o 30 December 2008 Algeria 2.50i Linda Chellakh76-Grenoble 1995-01-22 Andorra 2.65i Sara Guerra Vilana 88-1 Vilafranca2005-02-27 Argentina 4.25i Alejanda Garcia 1973-06-13 1 Santa Fe, ARG 2004-10-06 Australia 4.72i Kym Howe 1980-06-12 2 Donetsk 2007-02-10 Austria 4.44i Doris Auer1971-05-10 2 Glasgow 2001-03-18 Belarus 4.05i Yuliya Taratynova 1983-05-25 1 Minsk 2006-02-12 Belgium 4.10i Irena Dufour 1978-06-11 1 Gent 2003-02-16 Belize 2.13i Kay-De Vaughn 1986- Ypsilanti 2008-02-23 Brazil 4.70i Fabiana Murer 1981-03-16 3 Valencia 2008-03-08 Bulgaria4.50i Tania Koleva-Stefanova 1972-03-08 1 Athína2005-02-16 Burundi 3.71i Laetitia Berthier 1977-12-15 5 Epinal 2008-02-09 Cambodia3.21i Helene Kong 1993-08-05 Epinal 2008-02-09 Canada 4.41i Dana Ellis1979-02-09 1 Albuquerque 2007-02-03 Cent African Rep 1.80i Chancela Moundo 1990- L'Isle-sur-Sorgue 2008-11-30 Chad1.60i Amina Mahamat 1986- Bordeaux 2001-02-18 Chile 4.10i Carolina Torres 1979-03-16 2 Magglingen 2003-03-02 China 4.46i Zhang Yingning1990-01-06 1 Shanghai 2007-03-15 Colombia3.91i Milena Agudelo1985-04-17 3 Santa Fe, ARG 2004-10-06 Croatia 4.00i Ivona Jerkovic1976-11-01 1 Zagreb 2005-02-19 Cyprus 4.40i Anna Fitadou 1977-04-22 1 Athina 2005-01-29 Czech Rep 4.65i Katerina Badurová 1982-12-18 1 Praha 2007-02-14 Denmark 4.23i Marie Bagger-Rasmussen 1972-11-01 1 Malmö 2002-02-17 Egypt 3.64i Sonya Ahmed 1979-03-02 2 Tulsa 2001-02-24 El Salvador 3.66i Michelle Rivera 1984-07-01 3HS Los Angeles 2002-02-23 Estonia 4.01i Lembi Vaher 1987-02-11 1 Tartu 2008-02-09 Finland 4.30i Vanessa Vandy 1989-05-14 1 Joensuu 2008-02-23 France 4.65i Vanessa Boslak1982-06-11 5 Moskva 2006-03-11 Georgia 2.70i Ina NarijniakTbilisi 1998-02-22 Germany 4.70i Carolin Hingst1980-09-18 1 Ludwigshafen 2007-01-14 Gt Britain 4.44i Janine Whitlock 1973-08-11 4 Birmingham 2002-02-17 Greece 4.40i Nikoletta Kiriakopoulou 1986-03-21 Athíni 2008-02-23 Guam3.45i Juliana Jensen1982-07- Reno 2002-01-12 Guatemala 3.35i Peggy Ovalle 1976-09-29 5 Lawrence, KS 2006-01-28 Guinea-Bissau 2.30i Placida Morolho 1986- Alpierca 2003-02-23 Hongkong3.00i Lin Wan Nei 1982- Macau 2007-02-10 Hungary 4.51i Zsuzsanna Szabó 1973-05-06 1 Budapest 1999-02-04 Iceland 4.51i Thórey Elisdóttir 1977-06-30 1 Fayetteville 2001-03-10 Indonesia 3.82i Desy Margawati1980-12-19 Tsaotun 2001-02-03 Ireland 3.87i Erin Kinear 1984-10-26 4 Gainesville 2007-01-27 Israel 3.80i Olga Dogadko 1970-06-26 1 Moskva 2003-02-12 3.80i Zhanna Barrer 1983-09-02 3 Moskva2003-02-23 Italy 4.31i Elena Scarpellini 1987-01-14 1 Genova 2007-02-25 Ivory Coast 3.62i Alima Quattar 1988-02-01 1 Oyonnax, FRA 2008-01-12 Jamaica 3.36i Sandé Swaby Lincoln 2001-02-23 Japan 4.30i Masumi Ono1975-12-05 1 Tianjin 2002-03-03 Kazakhstan 3.90i Yelena Reznik 1978-08-20 4 Tianjin 2001-02-18 Korea 4.02i Choi Yun-Hee 1986-05-28 3 Toyota 2007-03-03 Latvia 3.92i Rita Obizajeva1988-07-13 1 Kaunas 2004-02-22 Lithuania 3.90i Edita Grigelionyte 1983-05-19 1 Kaunas 2006-03-17 Luxembourg 3.65i Gina Reuland 1992- 1 Luxembourg 2008-02-23 Malaysia4.23i Roslinda Samsu1982-06-09 Tsaotun 2008-03-14 Mali2.82i Aminata Sanako Cergy-la-Tour 1996-01-13 Mexico 3.90i Alejandra Meza1978-07-18 1 Houston 2003-01-18 Moldova 3.10i
t-and-f: Men's Indoor PV National Records
MEN'S INDOOR NATIONAL RECORDS a/o 30 December 2008 With the major U.S./Canadian indoor vaulting season beginning this week in the Reno Summit, perhaps it's a good time to summarize national records for the event. My files show the men's records as follow: Albania 5.00i Sazan Fisheku Tirana1990-03-16 Algeria 5.30i Samy Si MohammedParis 1994-01-30 American Samoa 5.27i Makasi Haleck South Bend2005-03-05 Andorra 4.70i Bernat Vilella Sala Valencia 2006-02-18 Angola 3.50i Antonio Deslandes Madrid1992-01-25 Argentina 5.60i Germán Chiaraviglio Donetsk 2007-02-10 Australia 5.81i Steve HookerBoston2007-01-27 Austria 5.77i Hermann Fehringer Wien 1991-02-24 Barbados3.60i Clifford Brooks London1977-01-08 Belarus 5.85i Dmitriy Markov Stockholm 1996-03-09 Belgium 5.70i Thibaut Duval Wien 2002-03-02 5.70i Kevin Rans Donetsk 2006-02-12 Bosnia 4.70i Borivoj Bosnjak Sarajevo 1975-02-12 Brazil 5.61i Fabio da Silva Donetsk 2008-02-16 Brit Virgin Is 4.20i Paul Hewlett Cosford 1988-03-06 Bulgaria5.76i Spas Bukhalov Sofia 2006-02-04 Burkina Faso 2.60i Aziz Ouedraogo Fronton 2004-12-12 Cape Verde 4.16Jose Rosa Espino 2008-02-10 Canada 5.65i Doug Wood Winnipeg 1992-03-15 Chad3.80i Hubert Djimtoloum Brazzantk 1963- Chile 5.50i Thoma RiethrTallahassee 2007-05-23 China 5.62i Liu FeiliangShanghai 2008-01-27 Congo 4.00i Celestin Kengue Nogent-sur-Oise 2004-02-07 Croatia 5.00i Zoran Radovanovic Budapest 1988-01-23 Cuba5.00i Alberto Manzano Paris 1993-02-20 Cyprus 5.35i Fotis Stefani Pireas1995-01-28 Czech Rep 5.81i Adam Ptacek Chemnitz 2003-02-07 Denmark 5.72i Martin Voss Malmö 1995-02-25 Estonia 5.65i Valeri Bukrejev Kuopio1995-03-05 Fiji4.41i Joseph RodanPomona2002-02-16 Finland 5.83i Jani Lehtonen Stockholm 1994-03-08 France 6.00i Jean Galfione Maebashi 1999-03-06 Gambia 5.02i Alhaji Jeng Göteborg 1999-02-06 Georgia 4.90i Chetkoshvili Gotcha Tbilisi 1981-02-10 Germany 6.00i Danny Ecker Dortmund 2001-02-11 Great Britain 5.81i Nick Buckfield Bad Segeberg 2002-02-09 Greece 5.65i Christos Pallakis Barcelona 1995-03-10 Grenada 4.30i Keron Francis Nampa 2006-02-23 Guatemala 4.40i Octavios Gillespie Lincoln 2005-02-05 Hongkong4.10i Wong Woon CheungMacau 2007-02-11 Hungary 5.82i Istvan Bagyula New York 1992-02-07 Iceland 5.30i Sigurdur SigurdssonSaint Augustin 1984-03-18 India 4.50i P. J. Vinod Macau 2007-11-01 Iran5.23i Mohsen Rabbani Tsaotn2008-03-14 Ireland 5.02i John Hallissey Glasgow 1997-01-19 Israel 5.86i Alexander Averbukh Stockholm 2001-02-15 Italy 5.82i Giuseppe Gibilisco Donetsk 2001-02-15 Ivory Coast 4.80i Alain Andji Bordeaux 1992-02-16 Jamaica 5.20i Jabari EnnisNorman2002-02-02 Japan 5.70i Daichi Sawano Reno 2004-01-10 Kazakhstan 5.92i Igor PotapovitchStockholm 1998-02-19 Korea 5.61i Kim Yoo-Suk Seattle 2005-02-26 Kuwait 5.10i Ali Makki Al-SabaghaPattaya 2006-02-11 Laos4.90i Lao Yeng-Tcha Orleans 2007-12-08 Latvia 5.74i Aleksandr ObizhajevsMoskva1983-02-12 Lebanon 3.30i Ali Hazer Pattaya 2006-02-12 Lichtenstein 4.50i Roman Jäger
t-and-f: Men's National Pole Vault Records
NATIONAL OUTDOOR POLE VAULT RECORDS—MEN a/o 2008-11-28 Albania 5.40Sazan Fisheku 1991-07-07 Athina Algeria 5.34Lakhdar Rahal 1979-06-04 Paris Andorra 4.75Bernat Vilella 2006-06-21 Barcelona Angola 4.05José Francisco 1984-06-11 Luanda Anguilla3.21Andre Samuel2002-04-27 Cobleskill Antigua 3.80Calvin Greenaway1973-06-02 Newham Antilles3.50Ivor Landburg 1997-08-31 Sittard Argentina 5.71Germán Chiaraviglio 2006-08-19 Beijing Armenia 4.40Onik Khachatrian1978-06-15 Yerevan 4.40Viktor Sosedov 1978-06-15 Yerevan Aruba 3.30Ericko Pieternella 1995- Australia 6.05Dmitriy Markov 2001-08-09 Edmonton Austria 5.77Hermann Fehringer 1991-07-05 Linz Azerbaijan 5.00Aleksandr Zyatin1973-05-05 Kharkov Bahamas 4.89Brent Vanderpool1987- Nassau Bahrain 4.45Ibrahim Hussein 1995-04-16 Manama Bangladesh 4.35Humayun Kabir 2006-04-29 Dhaka Barbados3.70Clifford Brooks 1977-08-13 London 3.70Victor Houston 1994-04-07 Austin Belarus 6.00Dmitriy Markov 1998-02-20 North Shore Belgium 5.70Thibault Duval 2000-06-11 Oordegem 5.70Kevin Rans 2007-07-28 Heusden Belize 3.20Joel Wade 1994-01-21 San Salvador Benin 3.50John Godonou-Dossou 1957-06-30 Dakar Bermuda 3.86Brooke Onley1987-05-15 Tuscaloosa Bolivia 3.90Daniel Araujo 1986-08-24 Cochabamba Bosnia-Herz 4.80Borivoje Bosnjak1974-06-30 Sarajevo 4.80Miroslav Sutvic 1980-04-28 Split 4.80Zeljko Vuckovic 1985-07-03 Stara Zagora Botswana2.50Geofehngwe Osupile 1987-07-25 Gaborone Brazil 5.77Fabio da Silva 2007-06-07 Sao Paulo Brit Virgin Is 4.20 Paul Hewlett1987-08-13 Indianapolis Brunei 4.70Domingo Kapal 1995-09-03 Singapore Bulgaria5.82Spas Bukhalov 2007-06-02 Sofia Burkina Faso 3.85 Alassane Néya 1993-05-02 Ouagadougou Burundi 4.10Pierre Ntibarashirwa 1979-09-09 Bujumbura 4.10Venant Rwamaheke1981- Bujumbura Cambodia3.90Péou Chin 1968-07-18 Phnom Penh Cameroon4.05Bienvenu Djakissam 1966-08-21 Viry-Chatillon Canada 5.61Doug Wood 1991-07-14 Papendal Cape Verde Is 4.30 José Rosa 2008-06-15 Luso Central Africa 3.80 Mickael Conjungo1989-04-30 Noisy-le-Grand Chad3.80Hubert Djimtoloum 1963- Brazzaville Chile 5.50Thomas Riether 1992-05-28 Tallahassee China 5.71Liu Feilang 2007-07-20 Guangzhou Chinese Taipei 5.30 Lee Fu-An 1990-10-29 Kaohsiung Colombia5.40Miguel Saldarriaga 1991-07-27 Medellin Congo 4.25Jean-Prosper Tsondzabéka 1969-06-14 Tunis Congo Dem Rep 4.20 Abelard Ndombi 1989-05-07 Bordeaux Cook Islands 3.10 Akanoa William 1987-12-18 Nouméa Costa Rica 5.20Roger Borbon1998-07-11 San Antonio Croatia 5.12Zoran Radovanovic 1989-05-20 Ljubljana Cuba5.70Lazaro Borges 2008-06-28 La Habana Cyprus 5.56Fotis Stephani 2000-06-09 Minsk Czech Rep 5.80Adam Ptacek 2002-07-13 Praha Denmark 5.75Piotr Buciarski 2002-04-27 Fort-de-France Dominica2.90Andy Baron 2003-07-19 Bridgetown Dominican Rep 4.80 Nathanael Semeis2008-07-04 Cali Ecuador 4.60Lenin Zambrano 2007-03-11 Cuenca Egypt 5.05Ahmed Abou Zid 1995-08-26 Cairo El Salvador 4.74Oscar Hernandez 2003-07-12 San Salvador Estonia 5.86Valeri Bukrejev 1994-07-03 Somero Ethiopia3.65Yohanes Giorgis 1975- Addis Ababa Equa Guinea 2.20Alfonso Ikuga 2007-09-30 Sabadell Fiji4.45Joe Rodan 2002-07-28 Manchester Finland 5.82Jani Lehtonen 1993-06-26 Kuortane France 5.98Jean Galfione 1999-07-23 Amiens French Poly 5.13Thibaut Cattiau 1989-03-04 Pirea Gabon 4.50Sylvain Lindzondzo 1981-08-08 La Valbonne Gambia 5.30Alhaji Jeng
t-and-f: Top 20 PV National Records
Men's Top 20 National Pole Vault Records a/o 18 November 2008 Ukraine 6.14Sergey Bubka1994 Russia 6.05Maksim Tarasov 1999 Australia 6.05Dmitriy Markov 2001 United States 6.04Brad Walker 2008 South Africa6.03Okkert Brits1995 Uzbekistan 6.00Rodion Gataullin1989 Germany 6.00Tim Lobinger1997 Belarus 6.00Dmitriy Markov 1998 France 5.98Jean Galfione 1999 Israel 5.93Alex Averbukh 2003 Kazakhstan 5.92Igor Potapovich 1992 Hungary 5.92Istvan Bagyula 1991 Poland 5.90Miroslaw Chmara 1988 Italy 5.90Giuseppe Gibilisco 2003 Sweden 5.87Oscar Janson2003 Estonia 5.86Valeri Bukrejev 1994 Japan 5.83Daichi Sawano 2005 Mexico 5.82Giovanni Lanaro 2007 Finland 5.82Jani Lehtonen 1993 Bulgaria5.82Spas Bukhalov 2007 Women's Top 20 National Pole Vault Records a/o 18 November 2008 Russia 5.05Yelena Isinbayeva 1982 United States 4.92Jennifer Stuczynski 1982 Poland 4.83Anna Rogowska 1981 Brazil 4.80Fabiana Almeida Murer 1981 Germany 4.77Annika Becker 1981 Czech Republic 4.75Katerina Badurova 1982 France 4.70Vanessa Boslak 1982 Australia 4.65Kym Howe1980 China 4.64Gao Shuying 1979 Iceland 4.60Thórey Elisdóttir 1977 Ukraine 4.57Anzhela Balakhonova 1972 Hungary 4.55Krisztina Molnár1976 Greece 4.55Afrodíti Skafída1982 Canada 4.55Kelsie Hendry 1982 Sweden 4.51Kirsten Belin 1981 Spain 4.50Naroa Agirre1979 Cuba4.50Yarisley Silva 1987 Great Britain 4.47Janine Whitlock 1973 Bulgaria4.45Tanya Stefanova 1972 Argentina 4.43Alejandra Garcia1973
t-and-f: Top 20 Records--Again
Didn't take long after I posted the men's and women's Top 20 PV records for a reader to let me know I had selected the women's birth year instead of the year of their record. Thanks for the correction and I'll try again-- Men's Top 20 National Pole Vault Records a/o 18 November 2008 Ukraine 6.14Sergey Bubka1994 Russia 6.05Maksim Tarasov 1999 Australia 6.05Dmitriy Markov 2001 United States 6.04Brad Walker 2008 South Africa6.03Okkert Brits1995 Uzbekistan 6.00Rodion Gataullin1989 Germany 6.00Tim Lobinger1997 Belarus 6.00Dmitriy Markov 1998 France 5.98Jean Galfione 1999 Israel 5.93Alex Averbukh 2003 Kazakhstan 5.92Igor Potapovich 1992 Hungary 5.92Istvan Bagyula 1991 Poland 5.90Miroslaw Chmara 1988 Italy 5.90Giuseppe Gibilisco 2003 Sweden 5.87Oscar Janson2003 Estonia 5.86Valeri Bukrejev 1994 Japan 5.83Daichi Sawano 2005 Mexico 5.82Giovanni Lanaro 2007 Finland 5.82Jani Lehtonen 1993 Bulgaria5.82Spas Bukhalov 2007 NATIONAL OUTDOOR POLE VAULT RECORDS—WOMEN a/o 2008-11-09 Russia 5.05Yelena Isinbayeva 2008 United States 4.92Jennifer Stuczynski 2008 Poland 4.83Anna Rogowska 2005 Brazil 4.80Fabiana Almeida Murer 2008 Germany 4.77Annika Becker 2002 Czech Republic 4.75Katerina Badurova 2007 France 4.70Vanessa Boslak 2006 Australia 4.65Kym Howe2007 China 4.64Gao Shuying 2007 Iceland 4.60Thórey Elisdóttir 2004 Ukraine 4.57Anzhela Balakhonova 2004 Hungary 4.55Krisztina Molnár2006 Greece 4.55Afrodíti Skafída2008 Canada 4.55Kelsie Hendry 2008 Sweden 4.51Kirsten Belin 2002 Spain 4.50Naroa Agirre2006 Cuba4.50Yarisley Silva 2008 Great Britain 4.47Janine Whitlock 2005 Bulgaria4.45Tanya Stefanova 2003
t-and-f: Women's PV National Outdoor Records
Thanks to contributors György Csiki, Gérard Dumas, Mirko Jalava, Børre Lilloe, and Michel Saint-Raymond; and special appreciation to Heinrich Hubbeling, who read and corrected my list. This chart may align best if your e-mail font is set for 12-point Courier. NATIONAL OUTDOOR POLE VAULT RECORDS—WOMEN a/o 2008-11-09 Algeria 3.70Linda Méziani 2000-05-07 Franconville 3.70Sonia Haliche 2006-07-24 Alger Andorra 2.85Maria Martinez Maudo2007-07-011 Lavalle Angola 2.00Lelo Patricia Kiala 2007-09-205 Antony, FRA Argentina 4.43Alejandra Garcia2004-04-031 Santa Fe Australia 4.65Kym Howe 2007-06-301 Saulheim Austria 4.40Doris Auer 2000-09-172 Gold Coast Azerbaijan 2.00Safura Seidova 2007-06-23 Pierre-Benité Belarus 4.20Svetlana Makarevich 2005-07-232 Kaunas 4.20Yulia Taratynova 2007-06-232 Munich Belgium 4.20Irena Dufour2004-08-031 Naimette-X Belize 2.60Clarencia Jones 2003-09-04 San Jose CRC Bolivia 2.55Maria Carmen Paredes2006-05-141 Cochabamba Bosnia-Herz 2.40Mehdija Suljic 2005-06-187 Istanbul 2.40Aldijana Bogucanin 2006-09-16 Castellon Brazil 4.80Fabiana Almeida Murer 2008-06-291 Sao Paulo Bulgaria4.45Tanya Stefanova 2003-06-212 Velenje Burundi 3.70Laetitia Berthier 2007-06-291 Feyzin Cambodia3.30Helene Kong 2008-06-29 Obernai Canada 4.55Kelsie Hendry 2008-06-141 Prince Albert Cape Verde Is 2.30Cleisa Tavares 2007-04-25 Santo Antonio Central Africa 2.00Chancela Moundo 2006-06-251 Marseilles Chad1.80Amina Mahamat 2003-05-01 St.-Jean-de-Luz Chile 4.30Carolina Maurer-Torres 2003-08-092 Santo Domingo China 4.64Gao Shuying 2007-06-022 New York Colombia4.21Milena Agudelo 2005-08-191 Armenia Congo 2.40Carine Golom Mbeh 2004-07-15 Brazzaville Costa Rica 2.70Maureen Calvo 2001-03-04 Desampa Croatia 4.05Ivona Jerkovic 2005-07-291 Zagreb Cuba4.50Yarisley Silva 2008-02-081 Valga Cyprus 4.30Anna Fitidou2003-06-151 Trikala Czech Republic 4.75Katerina Badurova 2007-08-282 Osaka Denmark 4.35Marie Bagger Rasmussen 2000-09-258 Sydney Dominican Rep 3.35Leidy Araujo2003-07-271 Santo Domingo Ecuador 3.35Lorena Ortiz2005-07-091 Quito Egypt 3.75Nesrine Ahmad Imam 2007-04-06 El Maadi El Salvador 3.73Michelle Rivera 2002-05-101 Van Nuys, CA Estonia 3.92Lembi Vaher 2008-06-151 Valga Fiji2.90Ioawana Vakaloloma 2003-07-08 Suva Finland 4.35Minna Nikkanen 2007-07-211 Hengelo, NED France 4.70Vanessa Boslak 2006-06-282 Malaga Fr Polynesia3.00Lucie Tepea 2001-10-17 Pirea Georgia 2.70Ina Narujniak 1996-05-221 Tbilisi Germany 4.77Annika Becker 2002-07-071 Bochum Great Britain 4.47Janine Whitlock 2005-07-22 3= London Greece 4.55Afrodíti Skafída2008-06-151 Athína Guatemala 3.50Peggy Ovalle2005-05-151 St. Charles, MO Guernsey2.25Fiona Ferbrache 1998-08-01 St. Peter Port Guinea-Bissau 2.55Placida Mirolho 2003-06-15 Almada, POR Honduras2.60Glenda Aguilar 1998-07-05 Mexico City Hong Kong 3.20Lin Wan Nei
t-and-f: Women's National Pole Vault Records
NATIONAL OUTDOOR POLE VAULT RECORDS—WOMEN a/o 2008-10-21 Algeria 3.70Linda Méziani 2000-05-07 Franconville 3.70Sonia Haliche 2006-07-24 Alger Andorra 2.85Maria Martinez Maudo2007-07-011 Lavalle Angola 2.00Lelo Patricia Kiala 2007-09-205 Antony, FRA Argentina 4.43Alejandra Garcia2004-04-031 Santa Fe Australia 4.65Kym Howe 2007-06-301 Saulheim Austria 4.40Doris Auer 2000-09-172 Gold Coast Azerbaijan 2.00Safura Seidova 2007-06-23 Pierre-Benité Belarus 4.20Svetlana Makarevich 2005-07-232 Kaunas 4.20Yulia Taratynova 2007-06-232 Munich Belgium 4.20Irena Dufour2004-08-031 Naimette-X Belize 2.60Clarencia Jones 2003-09-04 San Jose CRC Bolivia 2.55Maria Carmen Paredes2006-05-141 Cochabamba Bosnia-Herz 2.40Mehdija Suljic 2005-06-187 Istanbul 2.40Aldijana Bogucanin 2006-09-16 Castellon Brazil 4.80Fabiana Almeida Murer 2008-06-291 Sao Paulo Bulgaria4.45Tanya Stefanova 2003-06-212 Velenje Burundi 3.70Laetitia Berthier 2007-06-291 Feyzin Cambodia3.30Helene Kong 2008-06-29 Obernai Canada 4.55Kelsie Hendry 2008-06-141 Prince Albert Cape Verde Is 2.30Cleisa Tavares 2007-04-25 Santo Antonio Central Africa 2.00Chancela Moundo 2006-06-251 Marseilles Chad1.80Amina Mahamat 2003-05-01 St.-Jean-de-Luz Chile 4.30Carolina Maurer-Torres 2003-08-092 Santo Domingo China 4.64Gao Shuying 2007-06-022 New York Colombia4.21Milena Agudelo 2005-08-191 Armenia Congo 2.40Carine Golom Mbeh 2004-07-15 Brazzaville Costa Rica 2.70Maureen Calvo 2001-03-04 Desampa Croatia 4.05Ivona Jerkovic 2005-07-291 Zagreb Cuba4.50Yarisley Silva 2008-02-081 Valga Cyprus 4.30Anna Fitidou2003-06-151 Trikala Czech Republic 4.75Katerina Badurova 2007-08-282 Osaka Denmark 4.35Marie Bagger Rasmussen 2000-09-258 Sydney Dominican Rep 3.35Leidy Araujo2003-07-271 Santo Domingo Ecuador 3.35Lorena Ortiz2005-07-091 Quito Egypt 3.75Nesrine Ahmad Imam 2007-04-06 El Maadi El Salvador 3.73Michelle Rivera 2002-05-101 Van Nuys, CA Estonia 3.92Lembi Vaher 2008-06-151 Valga Fiji2.90Ioawana Vakaloloma 2003-07-08 Suva Finland 4.35Minna Nikkanen 2007-07-211 Hengelo, NED France 4.70Vanessa Boslak 2006-06-282 Malaga Fr Polynesia3.00Lucie Tepea 2001-10-17 Pirea Georgia 2.70Ina Narujniak 1996-05-221 Tbilisi Germany 4.77Annika Becker 2002-07-071 Bochum Great Britain 4.47Janine Whitlock 2005-07-22 3= London Greece 4.55Afrodíti Skafída2008-06-151 Athína Guatemala 3.50Peggy Ovalle2005-05-151 St. Charles, MO Guernsey2.25Fiona Ferbrache 1998-08-01 St. Peter Port Guinea-Bissau 2.55Placida Mirolho 2003-06-15 Almada, POR Honduras2.60Glenda Aguilar 1998-07-05 Mexico City Hong Kong 3.20Lin Wan Nei 2006-08-10 Hong Kong Hungary 4.55Krisztina Molnár2006-08-221 Beckum Iceland 4.60Thórey Elisdóttir 2004-07-172 Madrid India 4.08V. Suresh Surekha
t-and-f: Masters on World Lists
I know, you hoped you'd heard the last of me on this topic, but maybe just one more short one . . . As I sorted through Mirko's world lists, identifying those athletes of masters track ages, I couldn't help noticing several whose performances or ages made them seem very special. I've mentioned several of these as I've posted event lists, so I hope you'll excuse repetitions and the inevitable omissions. Perhaps you'd care to supplement my selections of the very special masters. First of all, I'd think that the oldest are special. I have it that the oldest on Jalava's 2008 world lists are, in both instances, discus throwers: The oldest female to make his world deep lists is Ellina Zvereva (BLR), birthdate 16 November 1960, who not only is on the list, but ranks #19 in the world at 62.75m. (It probably wouldn't be fair not to mention that the second-oldest female is Merlene Ottey, only six months younger; and what a great sprint career she's had!) The oldest male on the world lists is Sveiin Inge Valvik (NOR), birthdate 20 September 1956 (52 years old by season's end), #521 at 51.49m. Because it was easy to do, I also sorted for the youngest in each event: For the males, that was Kevin Jones (USA), birthdate 7 October 1993, who ranked #1087 on the 100-meters list at 10.65 seconds. The youngest female gets a little more complicated. The youngest for whom I have a full birthdate was Laura McDowell (USA), birthdate 8 October 1994, who placed #759 at 2:09.56 in the 800m list. The complication is that Mirko lists Tiffany Terry (USA) with only the birth year of 1995, as #965 at 55.57 in the 400m. I'd usually ignore partial birthdates, but I guess there's no disputing that any birthdate in 1995 is younger than any birthdate in 1994. Jaouad Charib (MAR) was on my list of best of all masters as second-place finisher in the Olympic Games marathon--how much better can a 35-plus athlete (BD 22 May 1972) do? Charib's 2:07.16 was #14 in the world. That seemed a cinch, although there was always the alternative of Haile Gebrselassie's #3 ranking in the 10,000m. Which is better--#2 in the Olympic Games or #3 in the world? Gebrselassie took that question off the books with his marathon world record of 2:07.16 at Berlin on 28 September. Geb is #1 Masters Athlete for 2008, okay? I think I mentioned before my appreciation for Henry Kirwa (KEN) making the 5000m list, not only as a masters athlete, but on the basis of a winning effort in the Paralympic Games. I'm not sure what are the disability requirements for participation in the Paralympic Games, but to do well enough in that venue to make the open world list has to be special. The #2 world ranking of Virgilijus Alekna (LTU) in the discus is sufficient to stand alone, but for a USA/CAN track fan, it seems even more impressive that he out-distanced our very well-remembered John Godina, world #22, who is three months younger. And again primarily on the basis of his world reputation and North American icon, it was good to see the name of Dan O'Brien crop up in the masters ranks, if not in the decathlon (where there were no masters on the world list), then in the 110m hurdles. Another distance-event specialist who deserves attention is Kjersti Tysse Plätzer (NOR), who finished second in the Olympic Games 20km walk and #8 overall on the world list for the event. Although it only reflects my personal biases toward the pole vault, I especially appreciated the accomplishments of Jeff Hartwig and Stacy Dragila. Jeff, because he set a new age 40 record of 5.70 and Stacy, for her world #10 ranking with 4.70m at age 37. Jeff's 5.70 wipes from the books a very-much-doubted 5.50 for what once was the beginning age for masters competition. Stacy, who became only the second woman (behind Aussie Emma George) to clear 4.60m/15', showed that she can still better this by four inches nine years later. Okay, I promise to quit on this thread--but not the pole vault. Cheers, Roger
Re: t-and-f: Masters on World Lists
On Friday, October 31, 2008, at 07:26 PM, Uri Goldbourt wrote: Gebrselassie took that question off the books with his marathon world record of 2:07.16 ??? Sorry--shouldn't try to do this sort of thing between visits of Hallowe'en tricks-or-treaters. As I wrote earlier in that paragraph, the 2:07.16 was Gharib's Olympic silver medal. Gebrselassie's world record was 2:03.59! Another marathon bit: The greatest number of masters on any world list was the men's 102 in a total list of 1065. There were fewer masters women on their marathon list (75) but a higher proportion of the total list of 680.
t-and-f: Masters on World Marathon Lists
My procedure is to sort Mirko Jalava's 2008 World Deep Lists tilastopaja.org for each event by year of birth, starting with 1973 and backward from there, to identify all athletes on the list of masters age levels (35 and older on the date of competition). In summarizing the lists, I've bold-faced the data for the oldest on the list, and also have noted the youngest athlete on the world list in each event. Masters on Men’s Marathon World List for 2008 N=1065 List threshold=2:25.00 1 2:03:59WR Haile Gebrselassie ETH 18 Apr 73 Berlin 28 Sep 14 2:07:16 Jaouad Gharib MAR 22 May 72 Beijing 2-OG 24 Aug 18 2:07:32 Sammy Korir KEN 12 Dec 71 Seoul 16 Mar 80 2:10:38 Tom Van HoosteBEL 23 Sep 72 Rotterdam 13 Apr 98 2:11:00 David Cheruiyot KEN 1 Sep 72 Ottawa 25 May 109 2:11:04 John Kibowen KEN 21 Apr 69 Paris 6 Apr 123 2:11:21 Toshinari Takaoka JPN 24 Sep 70 Paris 6 Apr 126 2:11:37 Michael KimaniKEN72 Roma 16 Mar 131 2:11:38 Jonathan KibetKEN68 Sevilla24 Feb 133 2:11:44 Hendrick Ramaala RSA 2 Feb 72 London 13 Apr 139 2:11:49 Sammy Rotich KEN70 Enschede 27 Apr 144 2:11:57 Mykola Antonenko UKR 2 Sep 72 Roma 16 Mar 156 2:12:01 Sammy Rotich KEN 22 Aug 57 Kotice 5 Oct 179 2:12:27 Lee Bong-Ju KOR 11 Oct 70 Seoul 16 Mar 186 2:12:42 José Manuel Martínez ESP 22 Oct 71 Madrid 27 Apr 189 2:12:38 Procopio Franco MEX 8 Jul 70 Torreón 3 Mar 197 2:13:02 Rafal Wójcik POL 18 Sep 72 Debno 13 Apr 199 2:12:48 Kenjiro JitsuiJPN 16 Dec 68 Berlin 28 Sep 200 2:12:52 Migidio Bourifa ITA 31 Jan 69 Paris 6 Apr 204 2:13:06 Stefano Baldini ITA 25 May 71 London 13 Apr 207 2:13:09 José de Souza BRA 22 Apr 71 Rotterdam 13 Apr 217 2:13:20 Julio Rey ESP 13 Jan 72 Hamburg29 Apr 223 2:13:23 Samson Loywapet KEN 24 Dec 72 Wien 27 Apr 229 2:13:26 Tsuyoshi OgataJPN 11 May 73 Beijing24 Aug 303 2:14:37 Philip KibitokKEN 23 Mar 71 Ciudad de México 17 Aug 325 2:15:00 Asier Cuevas ESP 16 Jan 73 Valencia 17 Feb 332 2:15:07 Pavel AndreyevRUS 20 Apr 70 Tempe AZ 13 Jan 345 2:15:21 Joseph Epetet KEN70 Lisboa 12 Apr 392 2:16:05 Larbi Zéroual FRA 10 Jan 71 Utrecht24 Mar 395 2:16:02 Silvio Guerra ECU 18 Sep 68 San Diego CA1 Jun 401 2:16:07 James Koskei KEN 23 Nov 68 Boston MA 21 Apr 427 2:16:25 Jan Bialk POL 4 Sep 69 Kraków 4 May 429 2:16:29 Franklin Tenorio ECU 30 Jun 69 Los Angeles CA 2 Mar 434 2:16:31 John MutaiKEN 26 May 66 Belfast 5 May 436 2:16:33 Luc Krotwaar NED 25 Jan 68 Rotterdam 13 Apr 440 2:16:42 Elías Domínguez ESP 21 Feb 72 Valencia 17 Feb 445 2:16:41 Joshua RopKEN69 Treviso30 Mar 449 2:16:42 Odilón Cuahutle MEX 11 Sep 70 Los Angeles 2 Mar 470 2:17:04 Giacomo Leone ITA 10 Apr 71 Parabita 27 Jan 472 2:17:06 Johannes Kekana RSA 25 Apr 72 Durban 10 Feb 482 2:17:05 António Sousa POR 26 Feb 70 Hamburg29 Apr 490 2:17:10 Jacob Mengich KEN70 Thessaloníki 20 Apr 495 2:17:14 Saïd Boudalia ITA68 Treviso30 Mar 497 2:17:31 Joseph Kahugu KEN 7 Jun 71 Madrid 27 Apr 502 2:17:20 Roberto Barbi ITA 25 Mar 65 Russi 6 Apr 525 2:17:53 Joachim Nshimirimana BDI 13 Jan 73 Praha11 May 526 2:17:24 Luiz Carlos da Silva BRA 23 Jan 69 São Paulo1 Jun 542 2:17:39 Brighton Chipere ZIM 13 Nov 72 Cape Town 21 Sep 544 2:18:13 Rik Ceulemans BEL 14 Sep 72 Omsk2 Aug 549 2:18:15 Paulo Gomes POR 15 May 73 Beijing24 Aug 564 2:18:26 Uli SteidlGER 6 Mar 72 Hamburg29 Apr 571 2:18:36 Bethuel Netshifhefhe RSA 16 Mar 72 Durban 10 Feb 574 2:18:40 Giorgio Calcaterra ITA 11 Feb 72 Roma 16 Mar 601 2:18:46 Asaf BimroISR 1 Jan 69 Tiberias 10 Jan 616 2:19:09 Martin Lauret NED 27 Oct 71 Rotterdam 13 Apr 617 2:19:12 Antonio da Silva BRA 18 Dec 72 Rio de Janeiro 29 Jun 625 2:19:01 Pavel Novák CZE 18 May 70 Roma 16 Mar 651 2:19:29 Marcello Capotosti ITA 15 Apr 68 Russi 6 Apr 660 2:19:36 Rowan Walker AUS 12 Jan 70 Gold Coast 6 Jul 662 2:19:59 David Antoine FRA 29 Jan 72 Sénart 1 May 668 2:20:08 Butiki Jantjies RSA71 Durban 10 Feb 675 2:19:53 Mauricio Díaz CHI 7 Aug 68 Rotterdam 13 Apr 676 2:20:11 Peter Muthama KEN72 Xiamen 5 Jan 678 2:20:11 Elijah Cheburet KEN72 Utrecht24 Mar 681 2:19:59 Rafael Muñoz MEX 24 Oct 63 Torreón 3 Mar 687 2:20:04 Eric Gérome BEL 4 Feb 69 Antwerp20 Apr 690
t-and-f: Masters on World Multi-Events Lists
My procedure is to sort Mirko Jalava's 2008 World Deep Lists tilastopaja.org for each event by year of birth, starting with 1973 and backward from there, to identify all athletes on the list of masters age levels (35 and older on the date of competition). In summarizing the lists, I've bold-faced the data for the oldest on the list, and also have noted the youngest athlete on the world list in each event. Masters on Men’s Decathlon World List for 2008 N=325 List threshold=6952 No masters on this list! Oldest (24): 15 8241 Roman Sebrle CZE 26 Nov 74 Beijing 22 Aug Youngest athlete (19) on this list: 316 6982 Chase Dalton USA 1 Feb 89 Fort Worth TX 15 May - Masters on Women’s Heptathlon World List for 2008 N=331 List threshold=5000 52 5915 Tatsiana Alisevich BLR 22 Jan 69 Stayki 5 Jun 139 5510 Elizete da Silva BRA 2 May 71 São Paulo 27 Jun 310 5035 Flor Robledo COL 6 Jan 73 Santo Domingo 1 Jun Youngest athlete (15) on this list: 188 5343 Katarina ThompsonGBR 9 Jan 93 Ashford27 Jul (A disappointing showing for masters on multi-events. Just too much demand for too long a time?) If you're disappointed with short lists, just wait for tomorrow's (FINAL) one of masters on the world marathon lists. (Oh, and by the way, the power went off again just as I started pasting the women's list. Maybe this just wasn't intended to be . . .)
t-and-f: Masters on World 200m Lists
My procedure is to sort Mirko Jalava's 2008 World Deep Lists tilastopaja.org for each event by year of birth, starting with 1973 and backward from there, to identify all athletes on the list of masters age levels (35 and older on the date of competition). In summarizing the lists, I've bold-faced the data for the oldest on the list, and also have noted the youngest athlete on the world list in each event. Masters on Women’s 200m World List for 2008 N=1242 List threshold=24.60 117 23.25 Irina PrivalovaRUS 22 Nov 68 Kazan19 Jul 152 23.38 Donna Fraser GBR 7 Nov 72 Los Angeles 26 Apr 332 23.74 Chryste Gaines USA 14 Sep 70 Atlanta GA 17 May 359 23.78 Natallia Safronnikava BLR 28 Feb 73 Brest 31 May 751 24.23 Chandra SturrupBAH 12 Sep 71 Fukuroi 3 May 802 24.27 Bettina Müller-Weissina AUT 12 Jul 73 Réthimno14 Jul 950 24.39 Winnet DubeZIM 10 May 72 Calgary 15 Jun 1048 24.47 Mirtha Brock COL 9 Apr 70 Medellín 26 Apr Youngest athlete (13) on this list: 1170 24.56 Shericka Jackson JAM 15 Jul 94 Kingston 15 Mar - Masters on Men’s 200m World List for 2008 N=2617 List threshold=22.05 13 20.20 Chris Williams JAM 15 Mar 72 Kingston 29 Jun 122 20.71 Patrick JohnsonAUS 26 Sep 72 Oordegem 26 Jul 296 21.00 Aimé-Issa Nthépé FRA 26 Jun 73 Albi 26 Jul 335 21.05 André Domingos da Silva BRA 26 Nov 72 São Paulo 23 Feb 628 21.28 Aleksey Aksyonov RUS 5 Jun 72 Kazan 19 Jul 756 21.36 Nobuharu Asahara JPN 21 Jun 72 Amagasaki 17 May 1008 21.48 Darren Scott GBR 7 Mar 69 Manchester 14 Jun 1046 21.50 Allen Johnson USA 1 Mar 71 Baie Mahault1 May 1140 21.54 Dedrick Evans USA 4 Feb 73 Athens GA 19 Apr 1396 21.66 Luis Vega COL 14 Jan 73 Provo UT 24 May 1523 21.71 Micky Bar-Yeoshua ISR 14 Jul 71 Banská Bystrica 22 Jun 1548 21.72 Ricardo Itacaramby BRA 1 Apr 68 La Paz 29 May 1612 21.74 Anderson dos Santos BRA 23 Apr 72 Sertãozinho15 Jun 2019 21.88 Mattias Sunneborn SWE 27 Sep 70 Stjärnsp Arvika 27 Jul 2330 21.97 Thierry Lubin FRA 10 Nov 70 Vergèze 10 May 2371 21.98 Johnny Silie NED 30 Sep 72 Leiden 14 Jun 2457 22.01 Dion WharryUSA 9 Nov 67 Fort Collins CO 29 Mar 2487 22.02 Derrick Archie USA 8 Jul 72 Charlotte NC 21 Mar Youngest athlete (14) on this list: 2159 21.92 Brandon SandersUSA94 Charlotte NC 28 Jun
t-and-f: Masters on World 20km Walk Lists
Masters on Women’s 20 km Walk World List for 2008 N=344 List threshold=1:49.58 8 1:27:07NR Kjersti Tysse Plätzer NOR 18 Jan 72 Beijing 2-OG 21 Aug 13 1:27:27NR Vira ZozulyaUKR 31 Aug 70 Sumy7 Jun 88 1:33:59 Gisella OrsiniITA 9 Dec 71 Maiori 27 Jan 90 1:34:03 Svetlana Tolstaya KAZ 9 Aug 71 Beijing21 Aug 91 1:34:15 Joanne DowUSA 19 Mar 64 Beijing21 Aug 105 1:34:57 Rossella Giordano ITA 1 Dec 72 Podebrady 12 Apr 114 1:35:36 Mayte GargalloESP 15 Oct 69 Castro Urdiales 17 Feb 126 1:36:35 Teresa Vaill USA 20 Nov 62 Eugene OR 6 Jul 130 1:36:40 Maria Graciela Mendoza MEX 22 Mar 63 Cheboksary 11 May 153 1:38:16 Miriam Ramón ECU 10 Feb 73 Kraków 24 May 181 1:39:56 Evelyn Núñez GUA 9 Apr 71 Cheboksary 11 May 193 1:40:37 Emanuela Perilli ITA 19 May 73 Valsugana 8 Jun 197 1:40:51 Gladys LarrotaCOL 25 Jul 68 Risaralda 12 Apr 214 1:41:58 Teresa LinaresESP 29 Apr 69 Castro Urdiales 17 Feb 228 1:42:37 Jolene Moore USA 14 Mar 66 Eugene OR 6 Jul 273 1:44:51 Patricia Garnier FRA 13 May 67 La Londe 30 Mar 290 1:46:04 Niobe MenéndezGBR 1 Sep 66 Douglas 1 Mar 297 1:46:24 Cristina Bohórquez COL 18 Jun 71 Cali 13 Jul 336 1:49:12 Dounia Kara ALG 21 Apr 72 Mostaganem 4 Apr Youngest athlete (17) on this list: 263 1:44:23 Alexandra Gradinariu ROU 25 Oct 90 Bucharest 5 Jul Although Gradinariu was the youngest on the list, there were twelve others with 1990 birthdates; nine of these recording their seasonal bests in a U19 competition at Zhengzhou on 15 March, ranking from #23 to #236 on the world list as a result. The youngest athlete on the male list also accomplished his seasonal best at this meet.
t-and-f: Masters on Men's 20km Walk World List
Don't know how I missed including this with the women's list, earlier today. Sorry. Masters on Men’s 20 km Walk World List for 2008 N=216 List threshold=1:28.00 7 1:19:04 Ilya Markov RUS 19 Jun 72 Cheboksary 10 May 58 1:22:21 David Kimutai KEN 19 Aug 69 Beijing 16 Aug 95 1:23:46 Feodosii Ciumacenco MDA 27 Jan 73 Adler23 Feb 141 1:25:19 Jesús Ángel García ESP 17 Oct 69 San Giovanni 1 May 143 1:25:21 Emmanuel Boulay FRA 4 Feb 70 Cheboksary 10 May 152 1:25:34 Eddy Riva FRA 17 Mar 73 Cheboksary 10 May 158 1:25:45 Milos HolusaCZE 2 May 65 Lugano9 Mar Youngest athlete (15) on this list: 22 1:20:16 Chen Ding CHN 5 Aug 92 Zhengzhou14 Mar
t-and-f: Masters on World Hammer Throw Lists
My procedure is to sort Mirko Jalava's 2008 World Deep Lists tilastopaja.org for each event by year of birth, starting with 1973 and backward from there, to identify all athletes on the list of masters age levels (35 and older on the date of competition). In summarizing the lists, I've bold-faced the data for the oldest on the list, and also have noted the youngest athlete on the world list in each event. Masters on Men’s Hammer Throw World List for 2008 N=453 List threshold=60.03 25 78.79 Nicola Vizzoni ITA 4 Jan 73 Lucca 10 Jun 29 78.55 Sergey Kirmasov RUS 25 Mar 70 Zhukovskiy 15 Jun 32 77.72 Christophe Épalle FRA 23 Jan 69 Aubière 9 Jul 50 75.76 Pavel Sedlácek CZE 5 Apr 68 Ostrava31 May 55 75.08 Kevin McMahon USA 26 May 72 Modesto CA 10 May 57 74.89 Karsten KobsGER 16 Sep 71 Dortmund8 Mar 67 73.60 Giovanni SanguinITA 14 May 69 Brescia28 May 70 73.44 Dzmitry Marshyn BLR 24 Feb 72 Stayki 27 Jul 74 73.10 Paddy McGrath USA 1 Jul 71 West Point NY 20 Jun 147 68.04 Aleksandr DryholUKR 25 Apr 66 Kyiv2 Jul 156 67.67 Zsolt NémethHUN 9 Nov 71 Tapolca 2 Aug 171 66.76 Mick Jones GBR 23 Jul 63 Crawleys10 May 178 66.51 Pavlo Milinevskyy AUS 3 Mar 68 Melbourne 10 Feb 249 64.12 Taisto Vierimaa FIN 27 Jul 65 Kaustinen 17 May 258 63.93 Adrián MarzoARG 24 Jan 68 Buenos Aires 10 May 283 63.36 Marco Quintarelli ITA 20 Jun 73 Firenze28 Jun 310 62.88 Leri ChitaisviliGEO 18 Dec 72 Tel Aviv2 Jul 350 61.88 Bernard Reibel FRA 13 Aug 67 Montpellier18 May 372 61.54 Mariusz Walczak POL 27 Feb 71 Szczecin6 Jul 382 61.40 Roland Ciofani FRA 29 Sep 71 Maisons-Laffitte 17 May 407 60.81 Mário Luiz Leme BRA 19 Nov 65 São Paulo 26 Jun 416 60.64 Samir HaouamALG 20 Jun 68 Alger 29 May 434 60.37 Phil Jensen NZL 8 Nov 67 Auckland 30 Mar 440 60.28 Pat Hellier NZL 24 Jun 71 Auckland 30 Mar Youngest athlete (16) on this list: 278 63.45 Ákos Hudi HUN 10 Aug 91 Debrecen 19 Jul - Masters on Women’s Hammer Throw World List for 2008 N=536 List threshold=52.01 29 70.74NR Sviatlana Sudak TUR 20 Mar 71 Stayki 27 Jul 67 67.70 Olga Kuzenkova RUS 4 Oct 70 Kazan 19 Jul 267 57.78 Dolores PedraresESP 17 Jan 73 Santa Cruz Tenerife 27 Jul 461 53.38 Anna Söderberg SWE 11 Jun 73 Göteborg 17 Sep Youngest athlete (15) on this list: 452 53.49 Alena Navahrodskaya BLR93 Stayki 7 Jun
t-and-f: Masters on World 400m Hurdles Lists
Masters on Men’s 400m Hurdles World List for 2008 N=733 List threshold=53.00 5 48.30 Danny McFarlane JAM 14 Feb 72 Beijing 4-OG18 Aug 77 50.05 Joey Woody USA 22 May 73 Eagle Rock CA 7 Jun 367 51.80 William Porter USA 15 Apr 73 Alcalá de Henares 12 Jul 379 51.86 Eddie Betts GBR 18 Feb 71 Palencia21 Jun 438 52.09 Louis Sales USA 29 Nov 71 Fairfax VA 3 May Youngest athlete (16) on this list: 422 52.01 Cheng Wen CHN 18 Mar 92 Luohe 13 Sep - Masters on Women’s 400m Hurdles World List for 2008 N=511 List threshold=61.00 212 58.89 Latrica Dendy USA 5 Nov 72 New York NY10 May 435 60.64 Chung Sul-MiKOR 5 Apr 72 Kimchun 9 May Youngest athlete (16) on this list: 297 59.67 Danielle Dowie JAM 5 May 92 Orlando FL 7 Jun
t-and-f: Masters on World 5,000m Lists
I thought for most of yesterday that we were going to have to wait awhile. if ever, for further posts in this series. Sunday afternoon, just when the Thanksgiving Turkey was coming out of the oven, the entire lower third of Vancouver Island lost electrical power for two hours. Since I'd left my computer turned on, of course it wouldn't boot up again. Time has taught that if I push enough buttons enough times in no particular sequence, something eventually works. It did, but this time with a new twist: Everything worked except sending and receiving e-mail messages. Nothing seemed to correct that; even running all the Mac software restore software discs. Same thing today, until I scanned all the way down to the bottom of my list of sent messages, and there found all the ones I'd tried yesterday to see whether any of my several e-mail addresses would send to any of the others. All were dated Jan 1, 1970. Correct the mail computer calendar to today's date, and we're back in business! (But as a one-time masters vaulter, I couldn't help feeling a little nostalgia for that 1970 date.) Anyway, back to business--this time with the masters listed on the Mirko Jalava 5,000 meters world lists. Masters on Men’s 5000m World List for 2008 N=1365 List threshold=14:29.92 77 13:20.48 Alberto García ESP 22 Feb 71 Barcelona 19 Jul 107 13:27.05 Erik Sjöqvist SWE 4 Dec 72 Heusden 20 Jul 113 13:28.09 Mark Carroll IRL 15 Jan 72 Walnut CA 18 Apr 211 13:42.24 Martin Lauret NED 27 Oct 71 Heusden 20 Jul 272 13:46.53 Guy Fays BEL 15 Sep 69 Heusden 20 Jul 348 13:52.07 Masatoshi IbataJPN 20 Aug 72 Kumamoto 5 Apr 486 13:58.83 David Galván MEX 6 Apr 73 Victoria 19 Jun 516 14:00.70 Driss Lakhaouaja MAR 26 Feb 72 Barcelona 1 Jun 748 14:09.50 Mohamed Serbouti FRA 3 Mar 71 Dijon 13 Jul 792 14:10.59 António Travassos POR 24 Sep 71 Santo Antonio 24 May 811 14:11.04 Marco Gielen NED 30 May 70 Arnhem18 Jun 826 14:11.40 Makoto Ogura JPN 18 Dec 72 Nobeoka 31 May 885 14:13.20 Jorge PintoPOR 31 Oct 70 Maia 18 Jun 927 14:14.44 Ian Hudspith GBR 23 Sep 70 Birmingham12 Jul 938 14:14.81 Kevin Castille USA 17 Mar 72 Walnut CA 18 Apr 950 14:15.46 Kenjiro Jitsui JPN 16 Dec 68 Yokohama 20 Apr 966 14:15.91 Larbi Zéroual FRA 10 Jan 71 Villeneuve d'Ascq 18 May 1038 14:18.70 John Kipsiele KEN64 Roma 1 Jun 1053 14:19.52 Zbigniew Murawski POL68 Szczecin 4 Jul 1119 14:22.10 Karim Foulouh MAR 27 Sep 72 Remiremont 4 May 1196 14:24.02 Henry KirwaKEN 4 May 73 Beijing 11 Sep 1338 14:29.03 Róbert Štefko CZE 28 May 68 Praha 7 Jun (Couldn't help noticing that Henry Kirwa's 14:24.02 was accomplishing in winning the Paralympic Games event at Beijing. Does this mean that a Paralympics-eligible runner made the open world list? Wow!) Youngest athlete (16) on this list: 300 13:49.31 Jonathan Ndiku KEN 18 Sep 91 Kumagaya 29 Apr - Masters on Women’s 5000m World List for 2008 N=1320 List threshold=17:29.92 104 15:35.61 Sabine FischerSUI 29 Jun 73 Naimette-Xhovémont 16 Jul 145 15:45.49 Harumi Hiroyama JPN 2 Sep 68 Kumagaya 18 May 148 15:45.96 Dulce María Rodríguez MEX 14 Aug 72 Walnut CA 18 Apr 183 15:54.38 Fernanda Ribeiro POR 23 Jun 69 Leiria 22 Jun 210 15:58.68 Dorota Gruca POL 5 Dec 70 Biala Podlaska 31 May 233 16:01.56 Kirsten Melkevik Otterbu NOR 29 May 70 Oslo 6 Jun 273 16:07.08 Nora RochaMEX 18 Dec 67 Victoria 19 Jun 302 16:10.18 Alina GherasimROU 10 Nov 71 Bucharest 25 May 318 16:12.10 Silvia Sommaggio ITA 20 Nov 69 Cesenatico 28 Sep 359 16:16.25 Samantha Warriner NZL 1 Aug 71 Auckland 28 Mar 446 16:25.39 Jan BlockxBEL62 Kessel-Lo 7 Jun 448 16:25.99 Saadia Bourgailh-Haddioui FRA 1 Jan 72 Beograd 29 May 483 16:28.06 Nadir de Siqueira BRA 4 Sep 70 São Paulo 28 Jun 484 16:28.10 Caroline HoyteGBR 30 Jun 70 Eton9 Aug 578 16:36.92 Lilian Magnusson SWE 18 Oct 68 Västerås3 Aug 650 16:42.60 Carmen SiewertGER 10 Jan 72 Rostock21 Jun 675 16:43.93 Petra Kamínková CZE 19 Jan 73 Kladno 28 Jun 679 16:44.07 Liza Hunter-Galvan NZL 25 Jun 69 Houston TX 29 Mar 687 16:44.45 Maria Baldaia BRA 29 Aug 72 São Paulo 28 Jun 688 16:44.44 Adriana Fernández MEX 4 Apr 71 Monterrey 13 Mar 776 16:49.77 Susan Michelsson AUS 29 Feb 72 Melbourne 8 Feb 799 16:51.68 Helena Javornik SLO 26 Mar 66 Ljubljana 7 Jun 816 16:52.69 Veronika Ulrich GER 26 Feb 68 Nürnberg5 Jul 819 16:53.20 Jaana Niemelä FIN 1 Jun 72 Kajaani 6 Aug 1094 17:14.59 Zohra Graziani Koulou FRA 7 Jan 66 Dijon 13 Jul 1140 17:17.67 Eva Trost GER 30 Jan 68
t-and-f: Masters on Triple Jump Lists--AGAIN
My procedure is to sort Mirko Jalava's 2008 World Deep Lists tilastopaja.org for each event by year of birth, starting with 1973 and backward from there, to identify all athletes on the list of masters age levels (35 and older on the date of competition). In summarizing the lists, I've bold-faced the data for the oldest on the list, and also have noted the youngest athlete on the world list in each event. After checking the men's lists again, twice, I have it now that there were four men on the TJ list. There were several men born in 1973 who didn't qualify, since they had not yet reached their 35th birthday by the date of the meet where they scored their seasonal bests. There may be a problem in this, since the jumper may have recorded his own masters best after his birthday, although lower than his seasonal best. I don't know of a way to handle these exceptions using the materials available to me. Here are the mens and womens lists as I have them now. (And BTW, Happy Thanksgiving to any Canadians who may be reading. The Yanks will have to wait another month. Maybe by U.S. Thanksgiving I'll be able to finish with the masters lists for the marathon--if ever.) Masters on Men’s Triple Jump World List for 2008 N=630 List threshold=15.20 33 17.04 Charles Michael Friedek GER 26 Aug 71 Wesel 25 Jun 82 16.59 Andrew OwusuGHA 8 Jul 72 Atlanta GA 17 May 125 16.35 Julian Golley GBR 12 Sep 71 Eton5 Jul 508 15.35 Diego Lamenti ITA 7 Mar 72 Lucca 10 Jun Youngest athlete (16) on this list: 311 15.71 William ClayUSA 13 Jun 92 Omaha NE 24 Jul - Masters on Women’s Triple Jump World List for 2008 N=533 List threshold=12.50 14 14.51 Yamilé Aldama SUD 14 Aug 72 Réthimno 14 Jul 23 14.36 Carlota Castrejana ESP 25 Apr 73 Santa Cruz 26 Jul 327 12.87 Barbara Lah ITA 24 Mar 72 Cagliari 19 Jul 404 12.70 Katalin DeákHUN 4 Mar 68 Budapest 15 Jun 520 12.51 Caroline Honoré FRA 29 Apr 70 Aix-les-Bains 4 May Youngest athlete (15) on this list: 472 12.58 Anastasiya Sayenko RUS 11 Nov 92 Vladimir 28 Jun
t-and-f: Masters on 800m World Lists
My procedure is to sort Mirko Jalava's 2008 World Deep Lists tilastopaja.org for each event by year of birth, starting with 1973 and backward from there, to identify all athletes on the list of masters age levels (35 and older on the date of competition). In summarizing the lists, I've bold-faced the data for the oldest on the list, and also have noted the youngest athlete on the world list in each event. Masters on Women’s World 800m List for 2008 N=832 List threshold=2:10.00 9 1:57.68 Maria MutolaMOZ 27 Oct 72 Beijing18 Aug 48 2:00.44 Agnes Samaria NAM 11 Aug 72 Dessau 30 May 67 2:01.17 Natalya Tsyganova RUS 7 Feb 71 Kazan 17 Jul 156 2:03.62 Mardrea Hyman JAM 22 Dec 72 São Paulo 22 May 181 2:03.98 Nouriah Mérah-Benida ALG 19 Oct 70 Strasbourg 2 Jul 195 2:04.20 Anna Jakubczak POL 2 Feb 73 Podlaska 31 May 406 2:06.84 Vicky Lynch-Pounds CAN 6 Jun 70 Richmond 15 Jun 428 2:07.05 Larisa Chzhao RUS 4 Feb 71 Dessau 30 May 654 2:08.89 Christine Gentile USA 18 Feb 70 Indianapolis 14 Jun Youngest athlete (13)! on this list: 759 2:09.56 Laura McDowell USA 8 Oct 94 Omaha NE 26 Jul - Masters on Men’s 800m World List for 2008 N=2628 List threshold=1:54.50 259 1:48.33 Crispen Mutakanyi ZIM 15 Mar 70 Germiston 22 Feb 1151 1:51.83 Stanislav Khukharkin RUS 7 Nov 71 Moskva22 Jun 1430 1:52.49 Justin Rinaldi AUS 20 Jun 72 Eagle Rock CA 10 May 1602 1:52.81 Daniel CaulfieldIRL 16 Oct 72 Chapel Hill NC 12 Apr 1947 1:53.39 Per Synnerman SWE 13 Dec 71 Västerås 1 Aug 2039 1:53.55 Paulo Paiutto BRA 8 Jan 73 Rimini 3 Jul 2138 1:53.71 Casper DirksNED 31 Mar 73 Ninove10 Aug 2275 1:53.94 Birger Ohlsson SWE 8 Aug 68 Waltham MA 7 Jun 2627 1:54.5h Marc Turner GBR 9 Nov 72 Birmingham16 Jul Youngest athlete (14) on this list: 1936 1:53.38 Waquar Dacosta JAM 14 May 93 Kingston 1 Mar
t-and-f: Masters on World Triple Jump Lists
My procedure is to sort Mirko Jalava's 2008 World Deep Lists tilastopaja.org for each event by year of birth, starting with 1973 and backward from there, to identify all athletes on the list of masters age levels (35 and older on the date of competition). In summarizing the lists, I've bold-faced the data for the oldest on the list, and also have noted the youngest athlete on the world list in each event. Masters on Men’s Triple Jump World List for 2008 N=630 List threshold=15.20 508 15.35 Diego Lamenti ITA 7 Mar 72 Lucca 10 Jun Youngest athlete (16) on this list: 311 15.71 William ClayUSA 13 Jun 92 Omaha NE 24 Jul (One! Masters-age athlete in a world list of 630?) - Masters on Women’s Triple Jump World List for 2008 N=533 List threshold=12.50 14 14.51 Yamilé Aldama SUD 14 Aug 72 Réthimno 14 Jul 23 14.36 Carlota Castrejana ESP 25 Apr 73 Santa Cruz 26 Jul 327 12.87 Barbara Lah ITA 24 Mar 72 Cagliari 19 Jul 404 12.70 Katalin DeákHUN 4 Mar 68 Budapest 15 Jun 520 12.51 Caroline Honoré FRA 29 Apr 70 Aix-les-Bains 4 May Youngest athlete (15) on this list: 472 12.58 Anastasiya Sayenko RUS 11 Nov 92 Vladimir 28 Jun
Re: t-and-f: Masters on World Triple Jump Lists
Whoa! Scratch that men's list. After I sent it, I did what I should have done before I sent it: checked the unlikely possibility of only one masters on the world list. I've already found several more, so will send both lists again tomorrow. Sorry On Sunday, October 12, 2008, at 03:28 PM, Roger Ruth wrote: My procedure is to sort Mirko Jalava's 2008 World Deep Lists tilastopaja.org for each event by year of birth, starting with 1973 and backward from there, to identify all athletes on the list of masters age levels (35 and older on the date of competition). In summarizing the lists, I've bold-faced the data for the oldest on the list, and also have noted the youngest athlete on the world list in each event. Masters on Men’s Triple Jump World List for 2008 N=630 List threshold=15.20 508 15.35 Diego Lamenti ITA 7 Mar 72 Lucca 10 Jun Youngest athlete (16) on this list: 311 15.71 William ClayUSA 13 Jun 92 Omaha NE 24 Jul (One! Masters-age athlete in a world list of 630?) - Masters on Women’s Triple Jump World List for 2008 N=533 List threshold=12.50 14 14.51 Yamilé Aldama SUD 14 Aug 72 Réthimno 14 Jul 23 14.36 Carlota Castrejana ESP 25 Apr 73 Santa Cruz 26 Jul 327 12.87 Barbara Lah ITA 24 Mar 72 Cagliari 19 Jul 404 12.70 Katalin DeákHUN 4 Mar 68 Budapest 15 Jun 520 12.51 Caroline Honoré FRA 29 Apr 70 Aix-les-Bains 4 May Youngest athlete (15) on this list: 472 12.58 Anastasiya Sayenko RUS 11 Nov 92 Vladimir 28 Jun
Fwd: t-and-f: Masters on High Hurdles
Zbigniew Jonik has provided the information that Patryk Jasinski, the athlete I had identified as youngest on the 110HH list, was competing in a youth event, with hurdles 91.4 cm high, in this meet. The change would make the youngest on the list Youngest athlete (16) on this list: 682 14.53 Wayne Davis USA 22 Aug 91 Raleigh NC 28 Mar Thanks, Ybyszek
t-and-f: Masters on World Javelin Throw Lists
My procedure is to sort Mirko Jalava's 2008 World Deep Lists tilastopaja.org for each event by year of birth, starting with 1973 and backward from there, to identify all athletes on the list of masters age levels (35 and older on the date of competition). In summarizing the lists, I've bold-faced the data for the oldest on the list, and also have noted the youngest athlete on the world list in each event. Masters on Men’s Javelin World List for 2008 N=657 List threshold=65.00 5 86.88 Sergey Makarov RUS 19 Mar 73 Kuortane6 Jul 23 82.72 Peter Esenwein GER 7 Dec 67 Schönebeck 8 Jun 79 77.11 Tomasz Damszel POL 25 Mar 72 Szczecin5 Jul 88 76.66 Nery KennedyPAR 28 May 73 Windsor 3 Jul 189 72.44 Rajmund Kółko POL 1 Mar 71 Szczecin5 Jul 210 72.11 Harri Hakkarainen FIN 16 Oct 69 Leppävirta 27 Sep 240 71.39 Ryan WeidmanUSA 24 Dec 71 Spokane WA 7 May 279 70.68 Luiz Fernando da Silva BRA 2 Jul 71 São Paulo29 Jun 318 69.89 Elliott ThijssenNED 30 Mar 71 Amsterdam 6 Jul 399 68.71 Roald Bradstock USA 24 Apr 62 Eugene OR 4 Jul 447 67.93 José Manuel Lombao ESP 26 Feb 70 Vigo 18 May 470 67.40 Robi Teršek SLO 1 Jul 70 Maribor19 Jul 486 67.15 Vadim Bavikin ISR 4 Oct 70 Tel Aviv3 Jul 497 66.99 Gregor Högler AUT 27 Jun 72 Kapfenberg 20 Jul 523 66.55 Daryl Brand NZL 6 Aug 63 Auckland 29 Mar 539 66.30 Jozo Ugrina CRO 6 Feb 72 Split 1 Mar 573 65.87 Danilo Fresnido PHI 8 Oct 72 Bangkok23 Jun 595 65.58 Paolo Valt ITA 15 Jul 72 Schio 19 Apr 654 65.04 Marko HyytiäinenFIN 27 Nov 66 Helsinki 15 Jul Youngest athlete (16) on this list: 548 66.15 Adrian Richter GER92 Potsdam15 Jun - Masters on Women’s Javelin World List for 2008 N=421 List threshold=47.50 4 68.34 Steffi Nerius GER 1 Jul 72 Elstal 31 Aug 24 61.23 Felicia MoldovanROU 29 Sep 67 Bucharest 14 Jun 25 61.21 Sávva Líka GRE 27 Jun 70 Athína 14 Jun 31 60.19 Claudia Coslovich ITA 26 Apr 72 Gorizia22 Jun 32 60.13 Jana Klimenová CZE 31 Dec 70 Ostrava12 Jun 34 60.12 Lada Chernova RUS 1 Jan 70 Zhukovskiy 15 Jun 42 59.20 Olha Ivankova UKR 7 Jan 73 Kyiv 17 Jun 53 58.39 Lavern Eve BAH 16 Jun 65 Uberlândia 11 May 86 55.93 Kateema Riettie JAM 12 May 73 Provo UT 24 May 108 54.48 Elizete da SilvaBRA 2 May 71 Curitiba 11 May 125 54.11 Hristina Georgieva BUL 3 Jan 72 Sofia 17 May 201 51.46 Nathalie Teppe FRA 22 May 72 Grenoble 18 Jun 265 50.11 Paula Tarvainen FIN 17 Feb 73 Tampere25 Jul 285 49.78 Tatsiana Alisevich BLR 22 Jan 69 Stayki 4 Jun Youngest athlete (14) on this list: 363 48.33 Kateryna Derun UKR 24 Sep 93 Yalta 24 Mar
t-and-f: Masters on High Hurdles
My procedure is to sort Mirko Jalava's 2008 World Deep Lists tilastopaja.org for each event by year of birth, starting with 1973 and backward from there, to identify all athletes on the list of masters age levels (35 and older on the date of competition). In summarizing the lists, I've bold-faced the data for the oldest on the list, and also have noted the youngest athlete on the world list in each event. Masters on Men’s 110m Hurdles World List for 2008 N=1285 List threshold=15.00 16 13.32 Allen Johnson USA 1 Mar 71 Fort-de-France 8 May 161 13.87 Andrea Alterio ITA 11 Jun 73 Cagliari 19 Jul 193 13.94 Sergey Manakov RUS 6 Sep 72 Zhukovskiy 15 Jun 210 13.96 Shaun BownesRSA 24 Oct 70 Arnhem 18 Jun 229 14.01 Leander McKenzieUSA 27 Jan 63 Troy AL26 Apr 462 14.32 TanigawaJPN 5 Jul 72 Kawasaki 27 Jun 533 14.39 Rod JettUSA 28 Oct 66 Sacramento CA 22 Mar 696 14.55 Tomás DvorákCZE 11 May 72 Tábor 4 Jul 739 14.58 Dirk Riekmann GER 14 Apr 72 Bremen 24 May 753 14.59 Andrew SmithBAH68 Nassau 28 Jun 762 14.60 Mike GodboutUSA 26 Jan 69 Indianola IA 25 Apr 772 14.60 Denis FavaroITA 14 Jul 72 Lodi 27 Sep 776 14.61 Karl Smith JAM 15 Sep 59 Modesto CA 10 May 918 14.74 Dan O'Brien USA 18 Jul 66 Irvine CA 22 Mar 934 14.75 David Ashford USA 24 Jan 63 Modesto CA 10 May 985 14.78 Javier Pascual ESP 12 Feb 73 Alcalá Henares 12 Jul 1016 14.80 Alain Rohr SUI 25 Dec 71 Fribourg3 Aug 1168 14.92 Henry Andrade CPV 17 Apr 62 Modesto CA 10 May 1212 14.95 Jonathan Nsenga BEL 21 Apr 73 Genève 31 May 1282 15.00 Frank Asselman BEL 10 Apr 72 Naimette-Xhovémont 5 Jul Youngest athlete (16-17?) on this list: 981 14.78 Patryk JasinskiPOL91 Wroclaw14 Jun (Nice to see Dan O'Brien's name on a 2008 list.) - Masters on Women’s 100m Hurdles World List for 2008 N=1154 List threshold=14.50 62 13.07 Irina Lenskiy ISR 12 Jun 71 Haniá 7 Jun 197 13.49 Melinda Sallins USA 30 Jun 73 Eagle Rock CA 7 Jun 820 14.22 Tatsiana Alisevich BLR 22 Jan 69 Stayki 4 Jun 14.47 Chung Sul-MiKOR 5 Apr 72 Kimchun 9 May 1139 14.49 Elizete da SilvaBRA 2 May 71 Santo Domingo 31 May Youngest athlete (14) on this list: 804 14.21 Trinity Wilson USA 9 Apr 94 San Francisco 12 Apr (Shortest masters list yet. Why?)
t-and-f: Masters on World High Jump Lists
My procedure is to sort Mirko Jalava's 2008 World Deep Lists tilastopaja.org for each event by year of birth, starting with 1973 and backward from there, to identify all athletes on the list of masters age levels (35 and older on the date of competition). In summarizing the lists, I've bold-faced the data for the oldest on the list, and also have noted the youngest athlete on the world list in each event. Masters on Men’s High Jump World List for 2008 N=975 List threshold=2.04 40 2.27 Dragutin Topić SRB 12 Mar 71 Kalamáta4 Jun 118 2.20 Nick MoroneyAUS 3 Aug 72 Sydney 10 Feb 271 2.15 Gilmar Mayo COL 30 Sep 69 Iquique15 Jun 275 2.15 Elvir Krehmić BIH 27 Apr 73 Bystrica 21 Jun 295 2.15 Dalton GrantGBR 8 Apr 66 Albertville10 Jul 575 2.10 Jan Janků CZE 10 Aug 71 Olomouc17 Sep 932 2.05 Jan-Erik Wanhainen SWE 8 Mar 71 Göteborg 24 Jun Youngest athlete (15) on this list: 354 2.13 Janick Klausen DEN 3 Apr 93 Herning27 Sep - Masters on Women’s High Jump World List for 2008 N=538 List threshold=1.75 31 1.92 Romary Rifka MEX 8 Apr 73 Carson CA 18 May 32 1.92 Iryna MyhalchenkoUKR 20 Jan 72 Kyiv3 Jul 38 1.91 Ina GlitznutaGRE 18 Apr 73 Bucharest 6 Jun 46 1.90 Gwen WentlandUSA 29 Apr 72 Manhattan KS3 May 50 1.89 Tisha Waller USA 1 Dec 70 Athens GA 19 Apr 83 1.86 Roberta Bugarini ITA 19 Sep 69 Imola 17 May 264 1.80 Viktoriya Seryogina RUS 22 May 73 Kazan 20 Jul 270 1.80 Birgit KählerGER 14 Aug 70 Schifflange10 Aug 368 1.76 Svetlana KazaninaKAZ 31 Oct 71 Almaty 6 May Youngest athlete (14) on this list: 312 1.78NR Jessica Fung Wai Yee HKG 1 Jan 94 Jakarta13 Jun
t-and-f: Re: Big mistake on men's discus masters list
Børre Lilloe has written to alert me that my masters discus list, posted yesterday, is missing a mark for Svein Inge Valvik that is shown on Jalava's world list as # 521 at 51.49m. This is an unfortunate mistake, because Valik was nearly 52 years old on the date of the competition and should have replaced Pertti Hynni (48) as the oldest thrower on the 2008 list. The complete entry for Valik would have been: 521 51.49 Svein Inge Valvik NOR 20 Sep 56Oslo 28 Jun How does this sort of error happen? As I've noted, in looking for masters on a list, I sort for all those with birthdays in 1973, which would make them 35 if their birthday is before the date of the meet when the season's best mark was made. Then I sort for 72 birthdates, 71, 70, etc., until I seem to have exhausted the possibilites. I see that on the men's discus list I had a hit on 63, none of 62 or 61, a surprise hit on 60, none on 59, 58, or 57, so quit looking at that point--as it turns out, one year too soon. Sorry, but there are lots of lists and I'm not quite half-way through. I'll try to watch more carefully. Yesterday, Uri Goldbourt wrote of another kind of error on the men's discus list, asking: What does Dheeb from Qatar do on the men's list if he was born in 1985? The list showed Dheeb ranked #72 at 61.95m. This time, in sorting for 72 1972 birth years, the search turned up Dheeb's 72 and I failed to note that it was his ranking and not his birth year. If that seems too many mistakes, you ain't seen nothin' yet: I've just sampled around the marathon lists a bit and it looks like about a fourth of the athletes shown have masters-age birthdates. I just think maybe I'll save that for last, hit send and go chanterelle hunting for a week before I check my in-mail. Cheers
t-and-f: Masters on 2008 Discus World List
My procedure is to sort Mirko Jalava's 2008 World Deep Lists tilastopaja.org for each event by year of birth, starting with 1973 and backward from there, to identify all athletes on the list of masters age levels (35 and older on the date of competition). In summarizing the lists, I've bold-faced the data for the oldest on the list, and also have noted the youngest athlete on the world list in each event. Masters on Women’s Discus World List for 2008 N=199 List threshold=50.28 2 66.51 Nicoleta Grasu ROU 11 Sep 71Istanbul 21 Jun 4 66.08 Natalya Sadova RUS 15 Jun 72Moskva 11 Jul 13 63.49 Iryna YatchenkoBLR 31 Oct 65Stayki7 Jun 16 63.21 Anna Söderberg SWE 11 Jun 73Helsingborg 6 Sep 19 62.75 Ellina Zvereva BLR 16 Nov 60Stayki7 Jun 21 62.59 Olena Antonova UKR 16 Jun 72Beijing 18 Aug 23 62.32 Joanna Wiśniewska POL 24 May 72Halle24 May 47 59.54 Elisângela Adriano BRA 27 Jul 72São Paulo27 Jun 49 59.47 Franka DietzschGER 22 Jan 68Versmold 17 May 104 55.44 Marzena WysockaPOL 17 Feb 69Podlaska 31 May 157 53.30 Teresa Machado POR 22 Jul 69Leiria1 Mar 164 52.73 Alice MatejkováESP 11 Jan 69 Santa Cruz Tenerife 19 Jul 185 52.15 Tomoko Yamaguchi JPN 14 Feb 72Hiroshima29 Apr 189 52.11 Eha Rünne EST 25 May 63Tallinn 23 May Youngest athlete (17) on this list: 137 54.21 Shi Meng CHN 18 Aug 91Luohe13 Sep - Masters on Men’s Discus World List for 2008 N=645 List threshold=50.01 2 71.25 Virgilijus Alekna LTU 13 Feb 72Turnov 20 May 16 65.71 Aleksander Tammert EST 2 Feb 73Kose 1 Jul 22 64.99 John GodinaUSA 31 May 72Salinas CA8 May 28 64.65 Aleksandr Borichevsky RUS 25 Jun 70 Sankt Peterburg 3 Jul 29 64.63 Michael Möllenbeck GER 12 Dec 69Versmold 17 May 69 62.08 Jean Tiercelin FRA 1 Feb 77Maisons-Laffitte 25 Jun 72 61.95 Ahmed Mohamed Dheeb QAT 29 Sep 85 Doha 9 May 80 61.37 Diego Fortuna ITA 14 Feb 68Firenze 27 Jun 98 60.71 Mickaël Conjungo FRA 6 May 68Castres 7 May 120 59.68 Kevin Fitzpatrick USA 26 Sep 69Salinas CA8 May 143 58.78 Jaroslav Zitnansky SVK 18 Feb 72Opava16 Jul 158 57.93 Pertti Hynni FIN 14 Feb 60Helsinki 29 May 160 57.89 Jouni Helppikangas FIN 10 Feb 71Rovaniemi16 Aug 168 57.58 Jean-Claude Retel FRA 11 Feb 68Bugeat6 Jul 199 56.58 Johan Åkerlund FIN 30 Aug 64Tampere 27 Jul 221 56.01 Mike RanskyCAN 26 Oct 70London ON27 Apr 232 55.69 Cristiano Andrei ITA 14 May 73Tarquinia31 May 230 55.75 Jo Van Daele BEL 6 Apr 72Zwevegem 11 May 243 55.39 Jim SeifertUSA 26 Nov 62Kings Point NY 12 Apr 247 55.33 Frank VicetESP 30 Nov 71Santa Cruz9 Jul 252 55.28 Igor Primc SLO 8 Jan 66Istanbul 22 Jun 262 55.07 Drajen Prskalo CRO 15 Jan 70Maribor 11 Jul 292 54.37 Gabriel PedrosoCUB 12 Jan 68Santa Cruz9 Jul 339 53.67 David Martínez ESP 31 Jan 67Castellón 7 Jun 365 53.29 Ralf Mordhorst GER 11 May 73Cuxhaven 12 Jul 386 53.05 Dragan Perić SRB 8 May 64Banská Bystrica 22 Jun 393 53.00 Mark Wiseman GBR 9 Feb 69Birmingham8 Jun 439 52.44 Luís Herédio Costa POR 30 Oct 71Lisboa 17 May 505 51.56 Yuriy Krysin UKR 30 Apr 73Koncha-Zaspa 21 May 512 51.51 Alessandro RosaBRA 3 Feb 71Praia Grande 10 May 526 51.39 Dragan MustapićCRO 23 Mar 63Novo Mesto5 Jul 536 51.30 Teppo RyytiFIN 4 Feb 71Alavieska19 Jul 540 51.28 Martín BreaESP 26 May 71Alicante 30 Jul 557 51.06 Mark Landa USA 26 Dec 72Phoenix AZ5 Apr 574 50.85 Norbert Demmel GER 10 May 63Germering31 May 580 50.76 Marek Stolarczyk POL 10 Jun 64Subice 17 Jun 584 50.74 Steve Muse USA 27 Jan 66Boise ID 2 May 588 50.73 Aitor Olaizola ESP 3 Nov 71Durango 15 Jun 593 50.69 Thomas Rosvold NOR 21 Jul 67Oslo 22 Jul 614 50.30 Pétur Gudmundsson ISL 24 Jan 62Reykjavik11 Jun Youngest athlete (16) on this list: 412 52.75 Dong Hao CHN 25 Jun 91Chengdu 30 Mar Masters athletes holding #2 rank on both men's and women's world lists!!
t-and-f: Masters on 2008 Long Jump List
My procedure is to sort Mirko Jalava's 2008 World Deep Lists tilastopaja.org for each event by age of birth, starting with 1973 and backward from there, to identify all athletes on the list of masters age levels (35 and older on the date of competition). In summarizing the lists, I've bold-faced the data for the oldest on the list, and also have noted the youngest athlete on the world list in each event. Masters on Women’s Long Jump World List for 2008 N=767 List threshold=5.90 69 6.56 Tatyana Ter-Mesrobyan RUS 12 May 68 Sankt Peterburg 3 Jul 141 6.41 Tünde Vaszi HUN 18 Apr 72 Debrecen 19 Jul 163 6.37 Jackie Edwards BAH 14 Apr 71 Nassau 28 Jun 172 6.36 Olena Bobrovnyk UKR 31 May 72 Kyiv1 Jul 367 6.14 Katalin Deák HUN 4 Mar 68 Zalaegerszeg8 Jun 565 6.00 Romary Rifka MEX 8 Apr 73 Monterrey 22 Jun 673 5.94 Elizete da Silva BRA 2 May 71 Santo Domingo 1 Jun Youngest athlete (15) on this list: 754 5.90 Katarina Thompson GBR 9 Jan 93 Wigan 24 May - Masters on Men’s Long Jump World List for 2008 N=934 List threshold=7.25 49 8.05 Vladimir MalyavinRUS 4 Mar 73 Moskva 21 Jun 111 7.90 Bogdan Tudor ROU 1 Feb 70 Bucuresti 6 Jul 459 7.51 Mattias SunnebornSWE 27 Sep 70 Karlstad 28 Jul 605 7.40 Nigel Park NZL 6 Jul 72 Auckland 29 Mar 728 7.34 Erick Walder USA 5 Nov 71 Clermont FL 7 Jun 847 7.28 Royden John GBR 6 Sep 72 Kingston 10 May 894 7.26 Steve FlemingIRL 14 May 72 Bedford26 May Youngest athlete (15) on this list: 811 7.30 Victor SantosBRA 8 Nov 92 São Paulo 8 Jun
t-and-f: Masters on World Steeple Lists 2008
A reasonable expectation would be that the first hurdling lists I'd search would be the 100m/110m highs. I think that James Fields' laudable efforts to keep the t-and-f list functioning through his frequent steeplechase posts deserves priority for that event. My procedure is to sort Mirko Jalava's 2008 World Deep Lists tilastopaja.org for each event by age of birth, starting with 1973 and backward from there, to identify all athletes on the list of masters age levels (35 and older on the date of competition). In summarizing the lists, I've bold-faced the data for the oldest on the list, and also have noted the youngest athlete on the world list in each event. Masters on Men’s Steeplechase World List for 2008 N=637 List threshold=9:09.76 9 8:12.50 Simon Vroemen NED 11 May 69Cottbus 11 Jun 190 8:44.54 Joël Bourgeois CAN 25 Apr 71Pézenas 31 May 339 8:55.85 Jan Zakrzewski POL 21 Dec 70Szczecin 6 Jul 368 8:57.39 Serhiy Redko UKR 24 Jan 73Yalta 7 Jun 408 8:59.17 Vjatsheslav Koshelev EST 20 Jan 68 Tallinn 22 Jun 477 9:02.29 José González ESP 3 Mar 73Barakaldo11 Jul 541 9:05.71 Salvador Miranda MEX 22 Aug 71Walnut CA18 Apr 558 9:06.35 Sebastien AugerFRA 8 Jan 72 Villeneuve d'Ascq 18 May 587 9:07.26 Predrag Mladenović SRB 19 May 72Banská Bystrica 22 Jun Youngest athlete (16) on this list: 335 8:55.69 Abdellah Dacha MAR 26 Jan 92Rabat 2 Aug - Masters on Women’s Steeplechase World List for 2008 N=535 List threshold=11:00.00 31 9:33.93 Minori Hayakari NR JPN 29 Nov 72Heusden 20 Jul 34 9:35.54 Veerle Dejaeghere BEL 1 Aug 73Neerpelt 31 May 50 9:41.68 Mardrea Hyman JAM 22 Dec 72Rio de Janeiro 18 May 56 9:42.87NR Miranda Boonstra NED 29 Aug 72 Neerpelt 31 May 84 9:51.54 Una EnglishIRL 14 Aug 70Luzern 16 Jul 250 10:30.02 Ivana Sekyrová CZE 13 Oct 71Praha 7 Jun 378 10:44.50 Samia Soltane ITA67Alessandria 17 May 437 10:50.33 Veronica Chiusole ITA72Valsugana17 May 465 10:53.14 Corinne RoyFRA 28 Dec 66Dijon13 Jul 468 10:53.66 Pilar Alonso ESP 12 Apr 72Santander 2 Jul Youngest athlete (15) on this list: 43 9:38.44 Halima Hassen ETH 10 Nov 92Bydgoszcz10 Jul (Five of the top 100 on the women's list!)
t-and-f: Masters on 2008 1500m Lists
As I wrote in the initial post of this series, the procedure is to sort Mirko Jalava's 2008 World Deep Lists tilastopaja.org for each event by age of birth, starting with 1973 and backward from there, to identify all athletes on the list of masters age levels (35 and older on the date of competition). In summarizing the lists, I've bold-faced the data for the oldest on the list, and also have noted the youngest athlete on the world list in each event. Masters on Men’s 1500m World List for 2008 N=1916 List threshold=3:54.50 89 3:37.99 Vyacheslav ShabuninRUS 27 Sep 69 Moskva 10 Jul 120 3:39.50 Alberto García ESP 22 Feb 71 Jerez de la Frontera 24 Jun 260 3:42.43 Rachid Chékhémani FRA 1 Oct 73Amiens 18 Jun 302 3:42.99 Andrey Zadorozhniy RUS 3 Sep 73 Moskva 10 Jun 440 3:44.62 Bård Kvalheim NOR 17 Sep 73Oslo 6 Jun 451 3:44.7h Rizak Dirshe SWE 5 Jan 72Watford 14 Jun 521 3:45.45 Stanislav Khukharkin RUS 7 Nov 71 Kazan 19 Jul 724 3:47.49 Mark Carroll IRL 15 Jan 72Limerick 14 Jun 725 3:47.49 Nadir BoschFRA 16 May 73 Villefranche-sur-Saone 28 Jun 899 3:48.76 Eliseo Martín ESP 5 Nov 73Monzón2 Jul 952 3:49.21 Jason Stewart USA 22 Apr 72Regensburg8 Jun 963 3:49.3h Maswi Ntambe KEN71Kisii 5 Apr 1295 3:51.30 Leszek Zblewski POL 25 Dec 73Szczecin 6 Jul 1365 3:51.65 Fernando Lorenzo ESP 29 Mar 73Barakaldo11 Jul 1511 3:52.41 Phil TulbaGBR 20 Sep 73Solihull 28 Jun 1597 3:52.84 Joël BourgeoisCAN 25 Apr 71Waltham MA 24 May 1603 3:52.87 David MartínezESP 31 Jan 67Pontevedra 26 Apr 1792 3:53.92 Maximilian Freund GER67Koblenz 21 May 1801 3:53.96 Sigurbjörn Arngrímsson ISL 31 Aug 73 Göteborg 28 Jun 1864 3:54.26 Takeshi Arisumi JPN 5 Jul 73Kumamoto 5 Apr Youngest athlete (15) on this list: 1770 3:53.83 Thomas Solberg EideNOR 20 Nov 92 Stavanger 9 Aug - Masters on Women’s 1500m World List for 2008 N=914 List threshold=4:30.00 31 4:05.30 Agnes Samaria (NR)NAM 11 Aug 72Monaco 29 Jul 49 4:06.94 Anna JakubczakPOL 2 Feb 73Warszawa 15 Jun 53 4:07.19 Olga Yegorova RUS 28 Mar 72 Jerez de la Frontera 24 Jun 78 4:09.10 Nouriah Mérah-BenidaALG 19 Oct 70 Monaco29 Jul 83 4:09.86 Maria Mutola MOZ 27 Oct 72Doha 9 May 124 4:13.20 Mardrea Hyman JAM 22 Dec 72Fortaleza14 May 203 4:16.71 Courtney Babcock CAN 30 Jun 72Burnaby 21 Jun 208 4:16.82 Miranda Boonstra NED 29 Aug 72Oordegem 26 Jul 320 4:20.11 Harumi Hiroyama JPN 2 Sep 68Kitami 13 Jul 481 4:23.81 Minori Hayakari JPN 29 Nov 72Eugene OR 8 Jun 514 4:24.36 Fernanda Ribeiro POR 23 Jun 69Maia 18 Jun 523 4:24.50 Amélie Nivet FRA 6 May 73Ninove 10 Aug 603 4:25.63 Gracie PadillaUSA 29 May 71Eagle Rock CA10 May 605 4:25.66 Genevieve Graff-Ermeling USA 72Eugene OR 9 May 627 4:25.90 Vicky Lynch-Pounds CAN 6 Jun 70 Walnut CA20 Apr 704 4:27.00 Sabine FischerSUI 29 Jun 73Fribourg 3 Aug 710 4:27.07 Pilar Alonso ESP 12 Apr 72Santander19 Jul 737 4:27.43 Silvia CasellaITA72Pavia11 May 824 4:28.7h Debbie WaltersGBR 11 Nov 68Birmingham4 Jun 910 4:29.91 Kris PaasoUSA71Stanford CA 5 Apr Youngest athlete (14) on this list: 558 4:24.95 Emelia GoreckaGBR 29 Jan 94 Street 5 May
t-and-f: Masters on 2008 Shot Put Lists
As I wrote in the initial post of this series, the procedure is to sort Mirko Jalava's 2008 World Deep Lists tilastopaja.org for each event by age of birth, starting with 1973 and backward from there, to identify all athletes on the list of masters age levels (35 and older on the date of competition). In summarizing the lists, I've bold-faced the data for the oldest on the list, and also have noted the youngest athlete on the world list in each event. Speed? Endurance? Power? We already know that the masters athletes fare far better in events requiring endurance than in those requiring speed. On the 100 meter world lists, only 10 masters men made the list of 2623 and only 16 women the list of 1388. On the other hand, at 10,000 meters, 21 masters men made the world list of 941, while 27 masters women made the list of 438. Of the masters men in the distance event, Haile Gebrselasie was outstanding, ranking third in the world at age 35. How, then would you expect the masters to rate in a power event? I guess the first that comes to mind would be the shot put. Let's take a look at the data on that: Masters on Men’s Shot Put World List for 2008 N=527 List threshold=16.60 19 20.79 Milan HaborákSVK 11 Jan 73 Pacov 12 Jul 77 19.54 Dzmitry Hancharuk BLR 17 Jul 70 Grodno 8 Jul 87 19.38 Paolo Dal Soglio ITA 29 Jul 70 Padova 31 Aug 141 18.63 Wim Blondeel BEL 25 Dec 73 Oordegem 26 Jul 171 18.35 Marco Dodoni ITA 5 Sep 72 Cagliari 19 Jul 408 17.05 Li WenkuiCHN 31 Dec 71 Chengdu30 Mar 428 16.95 Roland MändlaEST 24 Apr 70 Tartu 9 Jun 442 16.89 Luís Herédio Costa POR 30 Oct 71 Quinta do Anjo 8 Mar 443 16.89 Jim Dunkleberger USA 27 Mar 73 Auburn AL 5 Apr 462 16.84 Jaroslav Zitnansky SVK 18 Feb 72 Nitra 5 Jul 506 16.68 Ernie ConwellUSA 17 Aug 72 Nashville TN 18 Apr 508 16.68 Matteo Cibolini ITA 20 Jun 73 Asti 24 May 512 16.67 Zsolt Varga HUN 25 May 72 Pécs 27 Jun Youngest athlete (17) on this list: 378 17.19 Ding YonghengCHN 18 Jul 91 Luohe 13 Sep - Masters on Women’s Shot Put World List for 2008 N=522 List threshold=14.00 17 18.92 Irina Khudoroshkina RUS 13 Oct 68 Tula6 Jul 25 18.68 Krystyna Zabawska POL 14 Jan 68 Bydgoszcz 1 Jul 68 16.99NR Leyla Rajabi IRI 18 Apr 83 Almaty 7 Jun 101 16.37 Jo Duncan GBR 27 Dec 66 Birmingham 28 Jun 129 16.06 Mara Rosolen ITA 27 Jul 65 Valsugana 12 Jul 166 15.62 Fotiní Kiriakídou GRE 6 Jan 71 Sérres 10 May 208 15.29 Margarita Bernardo DOM 26 Feb 72 Santo Domingo 6 Apr 210 15.29 Olimpia Menelaou CYP 29 Apr 66 Nicosia 5 Jun 299 14.75 Tatsiana Alisevich BLR 22 Jan 69 Stayki 4 Jun 361 14.55 Eha Rünne EST 25 May 63 Tallinn19 Jul 411 14.34 Katja Will GER 19 Jan 70 Sarreguemines 10 May 427 14.27 Jutaporn Krasaeyan THA 13 Feb 72 Bangkok29 Apr 497 14.07 Olena Dementiy UKR 6 Mar 69 Koncha-Zaspa 20 May Youngest athlete (15) on this list: 481 14.11 Magdaléna Nová CZE 27 Oct 92 Jablonné4 May
t-and-f: 400m Masters--one more time
After the embarrassment of calculating masters ages incorrectly from the 2004 women's list and after replacing those with data from Jalava's current list, I hoped to be through with that. However, off-list, two correspondents whose opinions I value highly, remarked two apparent problems with the men's list. I'll deal with them separately: One asked where I was finding a tilastopaja list with a threshold of 49.00 (ranked to #2392), remarking that the only lists he sees there are cut off at 48.00. When I checked the 2008 400m list again, the 48.00 threshold (n=1186) was what I found, too. My immediate assumption was that I had again sorted the wrong year's list. However, when I checked each of the eleven names against their entries in Jalava's biography section, I found all exactly as I had given them in the prior masters posting, including birthdates, 2008 seasonal bests, dates and venue, and rankings (to Mashchenko's #2326). So what happened? Then I remembered that two weeks ago, when Mirko gave me permission to use this years lists, he cautioned that in the future he probably wouldn't have time to maintain lists as long as had been the case. Apparently, the future arrived sooner than I had expected. My computer files show that the list I sorted to send to t-and-f was copied on September 22nd. I sent the masters sort on September 25th. The list was changed in those three days. But please remember that the rankings on 9-22 were exactly the same as on 9-25--it's just that there were more available in the earlier list. The second criticism was that my list of masters included Johnny Thomas (48.76 at age 44) and Kevin Hawkins (48.62 at age 43) and that the date of birth must have been copied incorrectly, since both Thomas and Hawkins were kids, Johnny competing for a Texas high school and Kevin for the Air Force Academy. This was a little easier to deal with, because in checking the biographies for the earlier matter I already knew there were two athletes named Johnny Thomas and two named Kevin Hawkins. The younger Thomas did compete for Texas City High School in 2008 and set a PB of 48.86 at Huntsville on 25 April to rank #2171. The Johnny Thomas on my list set his PB of 46.91 at Indianapolis on 5 June 1986. The younger Hawkins was co-captain of the Air Force Academy team in 2008 and primarily an 800-meter runner. His 800m PB was 1:48.62 (#300) set on May 31 at the Colorado College Championships. The Kevin Hawkins on my list set his 400m PB of 46.16 at Santa Monica on 5 May 1984. Another duplication of names that was not noticed was a younger Sean Adams, a hurdler at USC in 2008, with a 400H PB of 52.41 at Westwood on 3 May. Okay, enough of 400 meters? Just to make it worse, I've always disliked the event, since the only times I ever ran it competitively was when Coach Welch had caught me smoking during the previous week. Thanks to both of my correspondents, though, for their careful attention.
t-and-f: Masters at 400m--and a mystery!
As I wrote in the initial post of this series, the procedure is to sort Mirko Jalava's 2008 World Deep Lists tilastopaja.org for each event by age of birth, starting with 1973 and backward from there, to identify all athletes on the list of masters age levels (35 and older on the date of competition). In summarizing the lists, I've bold-faced the data for the oldest on the list, and also have noted the youngest athlete on the world list in each event. Masters on Men’s 400m World List for 2008 N=2392 List threshold=49.00 402 46.92A Anderson dos Santos BRA 23 Apr 72 Cochabamba 31 May 723 47.45 Dedrick Evans USA 4 Feb 73Atlanta GA 17 May 734 47.46 Aleksey Aksyonov RUS 5 Jun 72Chelyabinsk 28 Jun 1241 48.07 Jata Shankar IND 20 Jun 72Bhopal 29 Feb 1581 48.38 Flávio Godoy BRA 13 Dec 69Rio de Janeiro7 Jun 1700 48.48 Marc FoucanFRA 14 Oct 71Montpellier 18 May 2062 48.76 Johnny Thomas USA 3 Aug 63Austin TX 9 May 1861 48.62A Kevin Hawkins USA 18 Mar 65Laramie WY3 May 1903 48.65 Jimmy Jean-Joseph FRA 15 Oct 72Aix-les-Bains 4 May 2282 48.93 Sean Adams USA 24 May 71Walnut CA 8 Mar 2326 48.96 Ruslan Mashchenko RUS 11 Nov 71Sochi27 May Youngest athlete (15) on this list: 1388 48.21 Curtis Woods IRL93Mannheim 22 Jun The 400m list showed 17 athletes with 1992 birthdates (age 16 at some time in 2008) - Masters on Women’s 400m World List for 2008 N=1069 List threshold=55.75 215 53.11 Donna Fraser GBR 7 Nov 72Birmingham 12 Jul 695 55.00 Natalya Tsyganova RUS 7 Feb 71Moskva4 Jun 771 55.18 Jearl Miles-Clark USA 4 Sep 66Gainesville FL4 Apr 814 55.25 Patrizia Spuri ITA 18 Feb 73Tivoli 13 Jul 892 55.43 Lena Aruhn SWE 22 Apr 70Celle Ligure 24 Jun 921 55.50 Anja RückerGER 20 Dec 72Nürnberg 5 Jul Youngest athlete (13) on this list: 965 55.57 Tiffany Terry USA95Omaha NE 27 Jul - And now, the mystery. When I first did the sorting on the women's 400m list, I accidentally did it on Mirko's 2004 list, not his current one. No mystery in my having the wrong one: I'd just finished filtering and corking sixty bottles of two kinds of wine, and of course they have to be tasted from time to time to make sure everything's going well. No, the mystery lies in how very different is the master's-age representation in the two lists. Here's the data for the 2004 list: Masters on Women’s 400m World List for 2004 N=685 List threshold=54.99 39 51.08 Donna Fraser GBR 7 Nov 72Berlin 12 Sep 52 51.46 Jearl Miles-Clark USA 4 Sep 66Carson CA22 May 60 51.61 Sandie RichardsJAM 6 Nov 68Kingston 27 Jun 73 51.78 Svetlana Bodritskaya KAZ 7 Nov 71 Almaty5 Jun 113 52.29 Olha MishchenkoUKR 24 Nov 71Yalta 4 Jul 118 52.32 Yuliya Sotnikova RUS 18 Nov 70Tula 29 Jul 119 52.33 Debbie Parris-Thymes JAM 24 Mar 73 Baton Rouge LA 17 Apr 125 52.44 Adri Schoeman RSA 13 Jul 70Durban 17 Apr 131 52.51A Andri Sialou CYP 27 Jan 73Pretoria 31 Jan 147 52.71 Julia Alba ESP 30 May 72Huelva6 Aug 172 52.92 Irina AnashkinaRUS 31 Jan 72Moskva 18 May 189 53.02 Lena Aruhn SWE 22 Apr 70Karlstad 7 Aug 193 53.05A Maria Magnólia Figueirêdo BRA 11 Nov 63 Bogotá 10 Jul 197 53.08 Patrizia Spuri ITA 18 Feb 73Roma 26 Jun 201 53.12 Luciana Mendes BRA 26 Jul 71São Paulo 3 Jun 255 53.51 Anke FellerGER 26 Sep 71Ratingen 26 Jun 282 53.62 Marie-Louise Bévis FRA 12 Oct 72Saint-Denis 23 Jul 307 53.73A Liliana Allen MEX 24 May 70Monterrey 3 Jul 326 53.81 Letitia VriesdeSUR 5 Oct 64Utrecht 10 Jul 401 54.08 Anita Mormand FRA 20 Feb 71 Sotteville-lès-Rouen 18 Jul 425 54.18 Mirtha Brock COL 9 Apr 70Lynchburg VA 8 May 433 54.22 Natalya Tsyganova RUS 7 Feb 71Tula 23 Jun 436 54.22 Natalya SharovaRUS 4 Oct 72Tula 29 Jul 449 54.29 NR Tanya Blake MLT 16 Jan 71Eagle Rock CA 8 May 463 54.36 Danielle Perpoli ITA 7 Mar 68Rieti12 Jun 466 54.37 Elisabeth Grousselle FRA 6 Feb 73 Mont-de-Marsan6 Jun 547 54.62 Linetta Wilson USA 11 Oct 67Fullerton CA 13 Mar 580 54.71 Tatyana MovchanUKR 19 Sep 70Mykolaiv 9 Jun Youngest athlete (13) on this list: 965 55.57 Tiffany Terry USA95Omaha NE 27 Jul Notice: 28 masters on the 2004 women's 400m list; 6 masters on the 2008 list. Why? What happened in those four years to so drastically reduce the number of masters on the women's lists? An obvious
Fwd: t-and-f: Masters at 400m--and a mystery!
Mystery Solved-- Begin forwarded message: From: Travis Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:53:39 PM US/Pacific To: 'Roger Ruth' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: t-and-f: Masters at 400m--and a mystery! Lots of the athletes on your sorted list from 2004 weren’t Masters – since the list is 4 years older, you need to only look at athletes from 1969 and before, not 1973 and before Thanks, Travis. Pretty stupid. But the wine turned out very well.
t-and-f: Fwd: Masters on the 100m World Lists
Begin forwarded message: Ken Stones wrote: Don't forget Jeff Laynes! Sometimes an explanation can be complicated. This time it isn't: I just missed Laynes, apparently skipping past his entry in my Find procedure. His info on Mirko's 2008 list is: 192 10.33 1.7 Jeff LaynesUSA 3 Oct 70 178/84 4 Hamilton Berkeley CA26 Apr Sorry 'bout that, and I wish I could promise it won't happen again. R
t-and-f: Masters on 2008 List for 10,000m
Well, the masters did fairly well on the speed event, with a few more representatives on the 2008 100m list than in the pole vault, although not as highly ranked. So, if masters can compete in speed, what's next? How do they make out in an endurance event? Let's try the 10,000 meters: Masters on Women’s 10,000m World List for 2008 n=438 List threshold=35:29.75 41 31:39.20 Dulce María Rodríguez MEX 14 Aug 72 Stanford4 May 53 31:57.71 Irina MikitenkoGER 23 Aug 72Menden 3 May 61 32:07.54 Fernanda Ribeiro POR 23 Jun 69Lisboa 28 Jun 62 32:07.69 Adriana Fernández MEX 4 Apr 71Stanford4 May 70 32:14.01 Irina PermitinaRUS 3 Feb 68Kazan 17 Jul 85 32:26.91 Saadia Bourgailh-Haddioui FRA 1 Jan 72 Saint-Maur 6 Jun 90 32:29.52 Alina Gherasim ROU 10 Nov 71Istanbul 12 Apr 96 32:31.45 Kirsten Melkevik Otterbu NOR 29 May 70 Roskilde 25 May 103 32:37.64 Harumi HiroyamaJPN 2 Sep 68Kawasaki 27 Jun 116 32:53.74 Dorota Gruca POL 5 Dec 70Ostrava12 Jun 129 33:07.49 Helena JavornikSLO 26 Mar 66Istanbul 12 Apr 141 33:16.61 Tetyana Mezentseva UKR 17 Jan 72Istanbul 12 Apr 171 33:27.09 Tomoko Yamaguchi JPN 14 Feb 72Kushiro16 Jul 178 33:29.1h Edith MasaiKEN 4 Apr 67Nairobi27 Jun 180 33:29.6h Catherine Ndereba KEN 21 Jul 72Nairobi27 Jun 198 33:38.60 Elva Dryer USA 26 Sep 71Eugene OR 27 Jun 215 33:48.09 Liza Hunter-Galvan NZL 25 Jun 69Walnut CA 18 Apr 233 33:56.04 Gloria Marconi ITA 31 Mar 68Rubiera11 May 306 34:31.05 Lilian Magnusson SWE 18 Oct 68Helsinki 29 Aug 313 34:34.43 Jo Wilkinson GBR 2 May 73Watford14 Jun 358 34:50.89 Márcia Narloch BRA 28 Mar 69Rio de Janeiro 4 Apr 359 34:51.59 Maria Baldaia BRA 29 Aug 72São Paulo 25 Jun 360 34:52.04 Nadir de Siqueira BRA 4 Sep 70São Paulo 8 Jun 362 34:52.28 Jaana Niemelä FIN 1 Jun 72Helsinki 29 Aug 372 34:55.84 Caroline Hoyte GBR 30 Jun 70Watford14 Jun 392 35:08.6h Lucilla Andreucci ITA 19 Dec 69Roma 10 May 393 35:08.7h Carmen Siewert GER 10 Jan 72Güstrow31 May Youngest athlete (17) on this list: 270 34:15.66 Zhang Jingxia CHN 15 Jul 91Luohe 14 Sep - Masters on Men’s 10,000m World List for 2008 N=941 List threshold=30:29.69 3 26:51.20 Haile Gebrselassie ETH 18 Apr 73Hengelo24 May 222 28:41.90 Masatoshi IbataJPN 20 Aug 72Kobe 26 Apr 227 28:43.41 Hiroshi Yamada JPN 26 Aug 68Shibetsu8 Jun 268 28:51.59 Tsuyoshi Ogata JPN 11 May 73Miyoshi17 May 274 28:53.04 Hendrick Ramaala RSA 2 Feb 72Stellenbosch 14 Mar 331 29:04.63 Mostafa Errebbah ITA 1 Aug 71Valsugana 12 Jul 361 29:09.65 Erik Sjöqvist SWE 4 Dec 72Västerås1 Aug 476 29:27.47 Ian Hudspith GBR 23 Sep 70Watford14 Jun 554 29:37.93 Jesús de la Fuente ESP 9 Sep 70Vigo 12 Jul 568 29:38.85 Vital Gahungu BDI69Jambes 2 Jul 613 29:45.04 Kenjiro Jitsui JPN 16 Dec 68Kumagaya 17 May 621 29:45.57 Guy Fays BEL 15 Sep 69Jambes 2 Jul 631 29:46.30 Makoto Ogura JPN 18 Dec 72Amagasaki 16 May 642 29:47.77 Adrian MarriottGBR 24 Sep 72Watford14 Jun 727 29:56.51 Phil Costley NZL 16 Mar 70Inglewood 26 Jan 765 30:00.39 Brian Livingston AUS 16 Feb 73Walnut CA 17 Apr 769 30:00.62 Stefan Van Broek BEL 16 Sep 72Jambes 2 Jul 793 30:06.62 Azat Rakipau BLR 29 Nov 68Grodno 8 Jul 832 30:14.16 Róbert Štefko CZE 28 May 68Tábor 4 Jul 878 30:21.65 Edo Baart NED 16 Apr 68Neerpelt 31 May 929 30:28.3h Giorgio Calcaterra ITA 11 Feb 72Roma 10 May Youngest athlete (17) on this list: 448 29:24.44 Tai YunlongCHN 11 May 91Luohe 14 Sep Wow! Gebrselassie ranks even higher than Derek Miles did in the pole vault. Can any master-age athlete rank higher on this year's world lists than Haile's #3? What do you think?
t-and-f: Masters on the 100m World Lists
As I wrote in the initial post of this series, the procedure is to sort Mirko Jalava's World Deep Lists tilastopaja.org for each event by age of birth, from 1973 and backward from there, to identify all athletes on the list of masters age levels (35 and older). In summarizing the lists, I've bold-faced the data for the oldest on the list, and also have noted the youngest athlete on the world list in each event. After satisfying my curiosity about effectiveness of master's athletes in the pole vault, the next question that emerged was of how well older competitors do in speed events, especially in the 100 meters. Probably no older athlete has received as much notice in the women's event as Merlene Ottey. I wondered whether she was the oldest on the world list. Then, I wondered whether any male athlete of Ottey's age was running effectively in this event. Here's what I found: Masters on Women’s 100m World List N=1388 List threshold=12.10 19 11.06 Chandra SturrupBAH 12 Sep 71Luzern 16 Jul 29 11.13 Chryste Gaines USA 14 Sep 70Clermont FL 14 Jun 80 11.32 Irina PrivalovaRUS 22 Nov 68Moskva 10 Jul 109 11.37 Bettina Müller-Weissina AUT 12 Jul 73 Kapfenberg 19 Jul 223 11.53 Jiang Lan CHN 22 Jan 69Beijing 23 May 227 11.53 Irina KhabarovaRUS 18 Mar 66Kazan17 Jul 237 11.54A Luciana dos Santos BRA 10 Feb 70Cochabamba 31 May 304 11.60 Merlene Ottey SLO 10 May 60Maribor 11 Jul 320 11.61A Mirtha Brock COL 9 Apr 70Cali 4 Jul 355 11.65 Donna Fraser GBR 7 Nov 72Biberach 28 Jun 429 11.71 Natallia Safronnikava BLR 28 Feb 73 Brest 31 May 532 11.76 Larisa KruglovaRUS 27 Oct 72Moskva 21 Jun 744 11.87A Winnet DubeZIM 10 May 72Calgary 15 Jun 883 11.93 Poonam Tomar IND 15 May 70Madurai 15 Jun 902 11.94 Patricia GirardFRA 8 Apr 68Genève 31 May 1314 12.08 Yvette Henry GBR 8 Jun 73London 10 May Youngest athlete (13) on this list: 1300 12.08 Chris-Ann Gordon JAM 18 Sep 94Kingston 14 Mar - Masters on Men’s 100m World List N=2623 List threshold=10.90 888 10.61 Derrick Archie USA 8 Jul 72Rock Hill SC 28 Mar 1047 10.64 Micky Bar-Yeoshua ISR 14 Jul 71Tel Aviv 17 May 1286 10.69 Henrik OlaussonSWE 2 Apr 73Västerås 3 Aug 1324 10.70A Ricardo Itacaramby BRA 1 Apr 68Cochabamba 31 May 1580 10.75A Luis Vega COL 14 Jan 73Provo UT 24 May 1694 10.77 Andrew Mensah GBR 30 Nov 71Oordegem 26 Jul 1845 10.80 Willie Gault USA 5 Sep 60Eagle Rock CA10 May 2049 10.83 Florian Gamper GER 6 Aug 72Weinheim 24 May 2341 10.87 Arben MakajALB 16 Jun 67Donnas1 Jun 2463 10.89 Dion WharryUSA 9 Nov 67Fort Collins CO 29 Mar Youngest athlete (14) on this list: 1087 10.65 Kevin JonesUSA 7 Oct 93Miami FL 17 Apr - So Ottey is the oldest on the women's list, but only four months older than Gault on the men's list. Masters women, though, rank far higher than the men on this speed event. What else would be of interest: power, endurance? Maybe the next posting should be a weight event.
Re: t-and-f: Masters Athletes on World Lists
On Sunday, September 21, 2008, at 07:49 PM, Wayne T. Armbrust wrote: You're aware that my former Ohio Track Club athlete Gary Hunter vaulted 4.90 last year at age 51 aren't you? That would have put him on the list for last year. My apologies to you for a misunderstanding that is my fault and should be noted by other readers. I failed to state that the lists I'm searching are Jalava's lists only for the 2008 outdoor season. (That's why the date of the meet in individual listings doesn't include the year, since that would remain constant at 2008.) For that reason, I didn't find Hunter's 4.90 on this year's list. Strangely, I didn't find it on the tilastopaja list for last year, either. When I checked the world masters records at world-masters-athletics.org they didn't have it either, still listing the masters 50-54 as Hunter's (age 51) 4.75m at Orono on 4 August 2007. The 4.75, of course would not have appeared on the 2007 deep list, with its threshold of 4.90m. Do you know of any problem with the sanction or reporting of his 4.90 that would have caused its non-acceptance by the world masters association? Otherwise, if you can locate any official results for the meet, I'd be glad to send them along to Mirko for addition to his 2007 list.
t-and-f: Masters Athletes on World Lists
This project began, simply enough, with Derek Miles' 5.85m vault at the Brandenburg Gate competition, just one centimeter short of Jeff Hartwig's world masters (age 35-39) record, which led me to wonder how many other masters-age vaulters there were of world-competition quality in this outdoor season. Mirko Jalava's site tilastopaja.org seemed the best source for this information, since his World Deep Lists are far deeper and more informative than any others I've found. As it turned out, there were 15 vaulters age 35 or greater on the day of their seasonal bests. I was also able to find the age of the oldest masters vaulter on the list (43), and because it was relatively easy to do, the age of the youngest vaulter to make the list (15). That, of course, raised questions for me about the number of women vaulters of masters age who qualified for the deep list, so I had to check out the comparison there. Then, a next question was how well masters did in sheer-speed events, so the process of checking ages on Mirko's lists was repeated for the 100 meters--beginning with the women, to ask whether Merlene Ottey was the oldest on the list, then turning to the men, to find the oldest there. In short, there is no short. One question follows another and I've so far done the masters-competitor summaries for men and women in one of each major event categories; jumps, sprints, middle distance, distance, weights, and hurdles. I think you'll find something of interest in each, and having Mirko's permission to post these and others, I'll continue to work on this for awhile. It takes me about one day's computer time for each event, so I'll send them at about that rate for as long as I can stay with it. A note about procedures: From Mirko's full list of a given event, I used the find function to search for athletes with a given birth year, beginning with 1973, 1972, etc., and copy-pasted those to a Word document. For those born in l973 only, I checked their birth date against the date of the meet when they accomplished their seasonal best to assure that they were masters on the date that qualified for the list, discarding the names of those who have not yet reached 35. (There is some chance of error in this, since the athlete might have reached a qualifying mark, although less than the seasonal best, after his birthday.) Mirko has another set of performance lists that might correct this error, but it would have taken quite a lot more time to check these additional data. Perhaps some reader might like to undertake this and correct any errors in my summaries. I then sorted the masters list by world rankings. For each athlete, I've included world ranking, performance, name, country, birth date, place meet was held, and date. Mirko's lists also usually include name of the meet and placing. You'll note that I've bold-faced the line of information about the oldest athlete on the list for each event. For starters, here are those lists of masters vaulters: Masters on Men’s Pole Vault World List N=853 List threshold=4.80m 4 5.85 Derek Miles USA 28 Sep 72Berlin7 Sep 13 5.75 Tim Lobinger GER 3 Sep 72Nürnberg 5 Jul 18 5.71 Tim Mack USA 15 Sep 72Van Nuys CA 1 Jun 29 5.70 Jeff Hartwig USA 25 Sep 67Eugene OR29 Jun 154 5.32 Laurens Looije NED 12 Jan 73Amsterdam 6 Jul 279 5.20 Ilian EfremovBUL 2 Aug 70Sofia14 Jun 281 5.20 Nick Buckfield GBR 5 Jun 73Leiden 14 Jun 334 5.10 Andrei Fedotov MDA 9 Nov 68Chisinau 31 May 440 5.05 Grigoriy Yegorov KAZ 12 Jan 67Castellón21 Jun 499 5.00 Maurilio Mariani ITA 22 Apr 73Firenze 27 Jun 527 4.95A Riaan Botha RSA 8 Nov 70Pretoria 2 Feb 581 4.90 Valdemir Silva BRA 18 Mar 71São Paulo26 Mar 617 4.90 Giacomo Befani ITA 8 Jan 70Terni 1 May 657 4.90 François ThénaultFRA 4 May 72Ottawa 22 Jun 823 4.80 Francisco Hernández ESP 15 Dec 64Pamplona 28 Jun - Youngest athlete (15) on this list: 798 4.80 Jin Min-Sup KOR 2 Sep 92Daegu 4 Jun Masters on Women’s Pole Vault World List N=797 List threshold=3.60m 10 4.70 Stacy DragilaUSA 25 Mar 71Chula Vista CA 22 Jun 242 4.00 Doris Auer AUT 10 May 71Regensburg8 Jun 405 3.81 Sandra van der Geer NED 25 May 72Amsterdam 5 Jul 451 3.80 Béatrice Denis FRA 18 Jun 72Amiens 18 Jun 470 3.80 Petra Pechstein SUI 26 Jul 71Fribourg 2 Aug 714 3.60 Irie HillGBR 16 Jan 69Melbourne 9 Mar - Youngest athlete (14) on this list: 196 4.05 Liz Parnov AUS 9 May 94Mannheim 21 Jun Next: Masters on 100m Lists
t-and-f: Smoggy Olympics
The considerable publicity that has been given to the high smog levels in Beijing has caused me to speculate on a world record holder who would not have been able to compete in the Olympics if they had been held there in 1968. If I'm wrong in the details, maybe someone will offer correction. I'm thinking of Jim Ryun, world record holder in the 1500 meters (3:33.1) from 1967 to 1974 and notably handicapped in some venues by chronic asthma. I don't think he was ever called upon to compete under such severe smog conditions as those shown at Beijing, but I can't imagine any severe asthmatic even attempting that level of hazard--Los Angeles would have been bad enough. Of course, the 1968 Olympics weren't held in Beijing, but in Mexico City, where high altitude posed another kind of threat to asthmatics and others with breathing disorders. The consequence for Ryun was apparent: He trailed Kip Keino by a full twenty meters at the finish, with Keino's time nearly two full seconds off Ryun's year-old record. Anyone know whether disadvantages a given venue may pose for some athletes ever enter into the considerations of the IOC in selecting a location for the Olympic Games?
t-and-f: Lane Assignment and Reaction Time
Allen Gillman was good enough to send along a pdf copy of the reaction time report. The report itself is copyrighted, but I'll copy the abstract. That answers some questions and may increase your interest in seeking out a copy of the June issue of Medicine Science In Sports and Exercise. RR Physical Fitness and Performance ‘‘Go’’ Signal Intensity Influences the Sprint Start ALEXANDER M. BROWN 1, ZOLTAN R. KENWELL 1, BRIAN K.V. MARAJ 1,2, and DAVID F. COLLINS 1,2 Human Neurophysiology Laboratory, 1 Faculty of Physical Education and Recreation, 2 Centre for Neuroscience, University of Alberta, Edmonton, Alberta, CANADA ABSTRACT BROWN, A. M., Z. R. KENWELL, B. K. V. MARAJ, and D. F. COLLINS. ‘‘Go’’ Signal Intensity Influences the Sprint Start. Med. Sci. Sports Exerc., Vol. 40, No. 6, pp. 1142–1148, 2008. Introduction: Loud sounds can decrease reaction time (RT) and increase force generated during voluntary contractions. Accordingly, we hypothesized that the loud starter’s pistol at the Olympic Games allows runners closer to the starter to react sooner and stronger than runners farther away. Methods: RT for the 100/110 m athletics events at the 2004 Olympics were obtained from International Association of Athletics Federations archives and binned by lane. Additionally, 12 untrained participants and four trained sprinters performed sprint starts from starting blocks modified to measure horizontal force. The ‘‘go’’ signal, a recorded gunshot, was randomly presented at 80–100–120 dB. Results: Runners closest to the starter at the Olympics had significantly lower RT than those further away. Mean RT for lane 1 (160 ms) was significantly lower than for lanes 2–8 (175 +/- 5ms), and RT for lane 2 was significantly lower than that for lane 7. Experimentally, increasing ‘‘go’’ signal intensity from 80–100–120dB significantly decreased RT from 138 +/- 30 to 128 +/- 25 to 120 +/- 20 ms, respectively. Peak force was not influenced by sound intensity. However, time to peak force was significantly lower for the 120 dB compared to the 80-dB ‘‘go’’ signal for untrained but not trained participants. When a startle response was evoked, RT was 18 ms lower than for starts with no startle. Startle did not alter peak force or time to peak force. Conclusion: Graded decreases in RT may reflect a summation-mediated reduction in audiomotor transmission time, whereas step-like decreases associated with startle may reflect a bypassing of specific cortical circuits. We suggest that procedures presently used to start the Olympic sprint events afford runners closer to the starter the advantage of hearing the ‘‘go’’ signal louder; consequently, they react sooner but not more strongly than their competitors.
Re: t-and-f: Lane Assignment and Reaction Time (much ado bout nuthin)
On Saturday, June 21, 2008, at 09:26 AM, George Malley wrote: It all depends on what you call significant doesn't it? From another Univ Alberta Study on the same topic: If you report the reaction times in milliseconds (133, 143, and 150) my gosh, those numbers look big. If you report the results by actual reaction time differences 0.01s (133-143ms) 0.007s (133-150ms) and 0.017s (133-150ms) it looks like there's no there there. Admittedly, I'm out of my expertise range with this, but if Malmo has the differences calculated correctly, the three gunshot volume levels could each average an effect close to .01 seconds. Whether that might result in changes in order of finish might be examined by looking at the finishing times of finalists in the 2004 Olympics 100m. In the 100m finals, no two runners finished with the same time (to .01 second), with the top three registering 9.85, 9.86, 9.87. It seems a difference of .01sec, .007sec, .017sec might have changed any of these times. On the other hand, in a semi-final heat, Obikwelu (POR) and Green (USA) both recorded times of 9.97, but Obikwelu finished second, while Green finished third; so clearly differences of less than .01 second do affect order of finish. In the finals, however, the two runners finished in the same positions, but both ran nearly 1/10 second (not 1/00 second) faster than in the heats, so any effect of starting-pistol volume pales by comparison with other factors. Okay, I'm out of this. But I'll enjoy reading other subscribers' interpretations of the importance of the study findings.
t-and-f: Lane Assignment and Reaction Time
Today's edition of the Vancouver edition of Globe and Mail includes an article that's interesting, but without enough information to know how well-founded is that interest. It describes a study undertaken at the University of Alberta in which researchers examined reaction times for the 100m sprint and 110m hurdles at the 2004 Olympic Games and found that runners in the lanes closest to the starting pistol had significantly faster reaction times than those in lanes farther away. This effect was said to be especially strong for runners in lane one. Unfortunately, the dimension of this difference is not given in this report, so whether it would affect an individual's measured time in these events cannot be determined. The article says that a report on the research, by Dave Collins and Alex Brown, is published in the June issue of Medicine and Science in Sports and Exercise. If any of our subscribers has access to this journal, perhaps she or he can fill us in on the over-all effect of this difference in reaction times.
t-and-f: Men's Indoor PV National Records
MEN'S INDOOR NATIONAL RECORDS a/o 15 November 2007 Albania 5.00i Sazan Fisheku Sofia1992-02-15 Algeria 5.30i Samy Si MohammedParis1994-01-30 Amer Samoa 5.27i Makasi Haleck South Bend 2005-03-05 Andorra 4.70i Bernat Vilella Sala Valencia 2006-02-18 Angola 3.50i Antonio Deslandes Madrid 1992-01-25 Argentina 5.60i Germán Chiaraviglio Donetsk 2007-02-10 Australia 5.81i Steve HookerBoston 2007-01-27 Austria 5.77i Hermann Fehringer Wien 1991-02-24 Barbados3.60i Clifford Brooks London 1977-01-08 Belarus 5.85i Dmitriy Markov Stockholm1996-03-09 Belgium 5.70i Thibaut Duval Wien 2002-03-02 5.70i Kevin Rans Donetsk 2006-02-12 Bosnia 4.70i Borivoj Bosnjak Sarajevo 1975-02-12 Brazil 5.50i Tom HintnausGent 1988-02-17 Brit Virgin Is 4.20i Paul Hewlett Cosford 1988-03-06 Bulgaria5.76i Spas Bukhalov Sofia2006-02-04 Burkina Faso 2.60i Aziz Ouedraogo Fronton 2004-12-12 Cape Verde 3.00i Jose Rosa Macau2007-11-01 Canada 5.65i Doug Wood Winnipeg 1992-03-15 Chad2.00i Louis Ntanken Nogent-sur-Oise 2006-12-04 China 5.61i Yang Quan Shanghai 2007-03-15 Congo 4.00i Celestin Kengue Nogent-sur-Oise 2004-02-07 Croatia 5.00i Zoran Radovanovic Budapest 1988-01-23 Cuba5.00i Alberto Manzano Paris1993-02-20 Cyprus 5.35i Fotis Stefani Pireas 1995-01-28 Czech Rep 5.81i Adam Ptacek Chemnitz 2003-02-07 Denmark 5.72i Martin Voss Malmö1995-02-25 Estonia 5.65i Valeri Bukrejev Kuopio 1995-03-05 Fiji4.41i Joseph RodanPomona 2002-02-16 Finland 5.83i Jani Lehtonen Stockholm1994-03-08 France 6.00i Jean Galfione Maebashi 1999-03-06 Gambia 5.02i Alhaji Jeng Göteborg 1999-02-06 Georgia 4.90i Chetkoshvili Gocha Tbilisi 1981-02-10 Germany 6.00i Danny Ecker Dortmund 2001-02-11 Gt Britain 5.81i Nick Buckfield Bad Segeberg 2002-02-09 Greece 5.65i Christos Pallakis Barcelona1995-03-10 Grenada 4.30i Keron Francis Nampa2006-02-23 Guatemala 4.40i Octavios Gillespie Lincoln 2005-02-05 Hongkong4.10i Wong Woon CheungMacau2007-02-11 Hungary 5.82i Istvan Bagyula New York 1992-02-07 Iceland 5.30i Sigurdur Sigurdsson Saint Augustin 1984-03-18 India 4.50i P. J. Vinod Macau2007-11-01 Iran5.10i Eshagh Ghaffari Teheran 2004-01-21 5.10i Mohsen Rabbani Teheran 2004-01-21 Ireland 5.02i John Hallissey Glasgow 1997-01-19 Israel 5.86i Alexander Averbukh Stockholm2001-02-15 Italy 5.82i Giuseppe Gibilisco Donetsk 2001-02-15 Ivory Coast 4.80i Alain Andji Bordeaux 1992-02-16 Jamaica 5.20i Jabari EnnisNorman 2002-02-02 Japan 5.70i Daichi Sawano Reno 2004-01-10 Kazakhstan 5.92i Igor PotapovitchStockholm1998-02-19 Korea 5.61i Kim Yoo-Suk Seattle 2005-02-26 Kuwait 5.10i Ali Makki Al-Sabagha Pattaya2006-02-11 Latvia 5.74i Aleksandr Obizhajevs Moskva 1983-02-12 Lebanon 3.30i Ali Hazer Pattaya 2006-02-12 Lichtenstein 4.50i Roman Jäger Dornbirn 2005-01-30 Lithuania 5.30i Zigmas Biliunas Kaunas 1984-02-04 Luxembourg 5.40i Fabian MoresInnsbruck2006-01-21 Macedonia 3.60i Vladimir Karer Beograd 1969-02-03 Morocco 5.00i Soufiane JarmaniBompas 2006-02-04 Mauritius 5.60i Jean Kersley Gardenne Liévin1998-01-15 Mexico 5.71i Giovanni Lanaro Flagstaff2006-02-18 Micronesia 3.96i Keitani Graham Boston 2002-01-12 Moldova 5.75i Alexandr Jukov Tbilisi 1990-05-25 Monaco 3.30i Anthony de Sévelinges Nice 2003-12-14 Montenegro 2.55i Momilo Vujovic Podgorica1954-02-21 Netherlands 5.75i Rens Blom
t-and-f: Women's Indoor PV National Records
NATIONAL INDOOR RECORDS--WOMEN a/o 15 November 2007 Algeria 2.50i Linda Chellakh Grenoble 1995-01-22 Andorra 2.65i Sara Guerra Vilana Vilafranca 2005-02-27 Argentina 4.25i Alejanda Garcia Santa Fe, ARG 2004-10-06 Australia 4.72i Kym HoweDonetsk 2007-02-10 Austria 4.44i Doris Auer Glasgow 2001-03-18 Belarus 4.05i Yuliya Taratynova Minsk 2006-02-12 Belgium 4.10i Irena DufourGent 2003-02-16 Brazil 4.66i Fabiana Murer Paris 2007-02-23 Bulgaria4.50i Tania Koleva-Stefanova Athína 2005-02-16 Burundi 3.60i Laetitia Berthier Aubiere2005-01-29 Cambodia2.90i Helene Kong Villel 2007-03-11 Canada 4.41i Dana Ellis Albuquerque 2007-02-03 Chile 4.10i Carolina Torres Magglingen 2003-03-02 China 4.46i Zhang Yingning Shanghai 2007-03-15 Colombia3.91i Milena Agudelo Santa Fe, ARG 2004-10-06 Croatia 4.00i Ivona Jerkovic Zagreb 2005-02-19 Cyprus 4.40i Anna FitadouAthina 2005-01-29 Czech Rep 4.65i Katerina Badurová Praha 2007-02-14 Denmark 4.23i Marie Bagger-Rasmussen Malmö 2002-02-17 Egypt 3.64i Sonya Ahmed Tulsa 2001-02-24 El Salvador 3.66i Michelle Rivera Los Angeles2002-02-23 Estonia 4.00i Kristina UlitinaTallinn2007-02-11 Finland 4.21i Minna Nikkanen Helsinki 2006-03-04 France 4.65i Vanessa Boslak Moskva 2006-03-11 Georgia 2.70i Ina Narijniak Tbilisi1998-02-22 Germany 4.70i Carolin Hingst Ludwigshafen 2007-01-14 Gt Britain 4.44i Janine Whitlock Birmingham 2002-02-17 Greece 4.37i Yeoryia Tsiliggiri Pireaus2002-02-23 4.37i Katerina Stefanídi Athíni 2004-02-20 Guam3.45i Juliana Jensen Reno 2002-01-12 Guatemala 3.35i Peggy OvalleLawrence, KS 2006-01-28 Guinea-Bissau 2.28i Placida Mirolho Espinho2003-02-15 Hongkong3.00i Lin Wan Nei Macao 2007-02-10 Hungary 4.51i Zsuzsanna Szabó Budapest 1999-02-04 Iceland 4.51i Thórey Elisdóttir Fayetteville 2001-03-10 Indonesia 3.82i Desy Margawati Tsaotun2001-02-03 Ireland 3.87i Erin Kinear Gainesville 2007-01-27 Israel 3.80i Olga DogadkoMoskva 2003-02-12 3.80i Zhanna Barrer Moskva 2003-02-23 Italy 4.31i Elena Scarpellini Genova 2007-02-25 Jamaica 3.36i Sandé Swaby Lincoln 2001-02-23 Japan 4.30i Masumi Ono Tianjin 2002-03-03 Jersey 2.50i Heather Le Cocq Stoke 1990-01-27 Kazakhstan 3.90i Yelena Reznik Tianjin2001-02-18 Korea 4.02i Choi Yun-HeeToyota 2007-03-03 Latvia 3.92i Rita Obizajeva Kaunas 2004-02-22 Lithuania 3.90i Edita Grigelionyte Kaunas 2006-03-17 Luxembourg 3.60i Stephanie Vieillevoye Luxembourg 2005-01-29 Malaysia4.00i Roslinda Samsu Teheran2004-02-07 Mali2.82i Aminata Sanako Cergy-la-Tour 1996-01-13 Mexico 3.90i Alejandra Meza Houston2003-01-18 Moldova 3.00i Lina Maftei Chinsinau 2006-02-05 Montenegro 3.80i Jelena Ranidovic-Vasic Pireas 2007-02-21 Morocco 3.17i Zakia El Hassouni Cergy-la-Tour 1996-01-13 Netherlands 4.45i Monique de Wilt Gent 2003-02-15 New Zealand 4.30i Jenni Dryburgh Auckland 2002-06-29 Norway 4.10i Cathrine Larsåsen Budapest 2007-01-26 Peru3.61i Maria Ferrand Madison2007-01-27 Philippines 3.85i Deborah Samson Flagstaff 2006-02-04 Poland 4.80i Anna Rogowska Liévin 2006-03-05 Portugal4.32i Elisabete Tavares Epinal 2006-02-11 Puerto Rico 4.15i Denisse Orengo Reno 2005-01-22 Reunion 4.00i Béatrice Denis Paris 2003-01-25 Romania 4.25i Gabriella Mihalcea Pireaus1999-02-13 Russia 4.93i Yelena Isinbayeva Donetsk2007-02-10 San
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World Championships--Ostrava 26 August--Women's Vault Finals 1 Yelena ISINBAEVA RUS 4.80 2 Katerina BADUROVA CZE 4.75 NR 3 Svetlana FEOFANOVA RUS 4.75 4 Monika PYREK POL 4.75 PB 5 Vanessa BOSLAK FRA 4.70 NR 6 Yuliya GOLUBCHIKOVA RUS 4.65 6 Fabiana MURER BRA 4.65 SB 8 Anna ROGOWSKA POL 4.60 SB 9 Tatyana POLNOVA RUS 4.60 10 Jennifer STUCZYNSKI USA 4.50 11 Kym HOWE AUS 4.50 Silke SPIEGELBURG GER NM There surely can’t be any argument against today’s vault finals in the World Championships being the highest-quality competition in the history of the women’s event. Admittedly, my search has been a quick one with some hazard of error, but I find that the marks of the vaulters placing third through ninth are the highest ever, in any meet, for those places. The exceptions in height-for-place are in first place, where better performances in winning have been attained by Isinbayeva (5.01), Feofanova (4.88), Stuczynski (4.88), Dragila (4.83) and Rogowska (4.83); and in second place, where the only better runner-up mark I found was Rogowska’s 4.83 in finishing second to Isinbayeva at Bruxelles on 26 August 2005. For the other places, Feofanova’s third-place 4.75 betters her own best third of 4.70 at Lausanne in 2006; Pyrek’s fourth-place 4.75 betters Feofanova’s fourth finish of 4.62 at Bruxelles in 2004; Boslak’s fifth-place 4.70 improves on Annika Beckers 4.58 for fifth at Stockholm in 2003; Golubchikova’s and Murer's sixth-place 4.65 betters Murer’s 4.51 for sixth at Saint-Denis in 2006; and their tie for sixth/seventh betters Grigorieva’s 4.56 seventh at Bruxelles in 2006; Rogowska’s eighth-place 4.60 improves on Polnova’s 4.51 of 2006 at Saint-Denis; and Polnova’s 4.60 for ninth improves on the previously-best ninth-place finish of 4.41 by Schwartz, also at Saint-Denis in 2006 The frequent appearance of Saint-Denis in the above summary offers a suggestion that the GAZ meet there on 8 July 2006 may have had the best previous women’s vault competition. The complete results were: 1. Isinbayeva 4.76 2. Boslak 4.61 3. Pyrek 4.61 4. Ryjikh 4.61 5. Grigorieva 4.51 6. Murer 4.51 7. Sauer 4.51 8. Polnova 4.51 9. Schwartz 4.41 But probably a better contender for second-best-ever might be the Bruxelles Van Damme of 25 August 2006: 1. Isinbayeva 4.81 2. Murer 4.66 3. Pyrek 4.66 4. Spiegelburg 4.56 5. Polnova 4.56 6. Stuczynski 4.56 7. Grigorieva 4.56 8. Schwartz 4.46 9. Golubchikova 4.36 Any other candidates for second-best ever?
t-and-f: Dragila's Records
With Yelena Isinbayeva facing Jenn Stuczynski as the new U.S. record holder for the first time at Rome's Golden Gala tomorrow night, it might be timely to look back at the record contributions of Jenn's national record predecessor, Stacy Dragila. I'm not sure I have all of Stacy's records (records to date, that is--I haven't given up on her adding others in the future), but perhaps someone can fill in blanks and correct errors. I'm especially uncertain as to whether USATF accepted as national records marks at Modesto on 21 May 2000 and at Phoenix on 26 May 2000. The Modesto mark of 4.60m tied her own and Emma George's world outdoor best, but was not submitted to IAAF for world record ratification because her indoor 4.62 at Atlanta on 3 March of that year would be considered the world record under the new IAAF rules combining indoor and outdoor best marks for world records a/o 1 January 2000. The Phoenix mark was not ratified by IAAF because there was no drug testing available at the meet, but USATF may have accepted as sufficient a negative result in a test the following morning. Another possible difference between IAAF and USATF criteria might be in what would have been a world record of 5.65m at Pocatello on 9 February 2001, where Stacy was an invited participant in a college dual meet and the IAAF ruled that this constituted an exhibition, rather than a competition. Setting those uncertainies aside, my files show Dragila bettering or tying indoor or outdoor national records 43 times. I wonder how that compares with similar figures for other events. It may be that such a comparison is unfair, in that pole vaulters and high jumpers are alone in being able to choose the margin of improvement in any single attempt. Dragila's Indoor National and World Records: 3.89i1996-01-13 en Pocatello NR 3.96i1996-01-13 1 Pocatello NR 4.00i1996-01-19 1= RenoNRT (tied with Melissa Price) 4.05i1996-02-10 1 Pocatello NR 4.05i1996-03-10 en Atlanta NR= 4.10i1996-03-10 1 Atlanta NR 4.14i1997-01-11 en Pocatello NR 4.27i1997-01-11 1 Pocatello NR 4.30i1997-01-24 1 RenoNR 4.30i1997-03-09 en Paris-Bercy NR= 4.35i1997-03-09 en Paris-Bercy NR 4.40i1997-03-09 1 Paris-Bercy NR/WIR= 4.48i1998-03-08 1 Sindelfingen NR/WIR 4.51i2000-01-28 1 Pocatello NR 4.57i2000-02-19 en Pocatello NR/WIR 4.61i2000-02-19 1 Pocatello NR/WR 4.62i2000-03-03 1 Atlanta NR/WR 4.63i2001-02-02 1 New YorkNR/WR= 4.65i2001-02-09 1 Pocatello ? 4.66i2001-02-17 en Pocatello NR/WR 4.70i2001-02-17 1 Pocatello NR/WR 4.71i2003-02-01 1 Boston NR 4.72i2003-02-07 1 New YorkNR 4.78i 2003-03-02 1 Boston NR/WIR 4.81i2004-03-06 2 BudapestNR Dragila's Oudoor National and World Records: 4.131996-04-20 1 LawrenceNR 4.151996-06-02 en Abbotsford NR 4.191996-06-02 1 Abbotsford NR 4.201996-06-19 1 Atlanta NR 4.221997-04-12 1 Eugene NR 4.241997-04-20 1 Walnut NR 4.281997-04-25 1 Provo NR 4.301997-05-10 en Modesto NR 4.451997-05-10 1 Modesto NR 4.461999-04-19 1 Walnut NR 4.471999-06-06 en Uniondale NR 4.541999-06-06 1 Uniondale NR 4.601999-08-21 1 Sevilla NR/WR= 4.602000-05-21 1 Modesto ? 4.622000-05-26 1 Phoenix ? 4.632000-07-23 1 Sacramento NR/WR 4.662001-04-27 en Pocatello NR/WOB 4.702001-04-27 1 Pocatello NR/WR= 4.712001-06-09 en Palo Alto NR/WR 4.812001-06-09 1 Palo Alto NR/WR 4.832004-08-06 1 Ostrava NR/WOB N. B.--WR vs WIR vs WOB Since January 1, 2000 it has been possible to set an absolute world record (WR) in the vault either indoors or outdoors. Since that time, an indoor record that is lower than a current world record set outdoors is classified as the World Indoor Record (WIR). However an outdoor record that is lower than a current world record set indoors is classified as the World Outdoor Best (WOB), not as the World Outdoor Record. I've never heard an explanation for the inconsistency.
t-and-f: Country with best vaulters?
A question posted yesterday on PoleVaultPower asked: “who does everyone say the strongest vaulting country, men and women, is in the world. The US isnt bad but then there's Russia, Australia, anyones thoughts on this?” Members of the t-and-f mailing list might be interested in my response: “Everyone” certainly will not agree on an answer, because there are several questions hiding in this. For example, is the question which country has “the best” male vaulters, which has the best female vaulters, or the best combination of male and female vaulters? Is the question which country has the male and female vaulter at the top of the world lists? With the greatest number of top-ten rankings? The greatest number of male vaulters with marks over 5.70, of female vaulters over 4.50? Clearly, the answer is going to depend on which, if any, of these questions is asked. Here, though, are some data that may help with a few questions of the sort. They are taken from Mirko Jalava’s 2006 world outdoor deep lists at www.tilastopaja.net, which show 670 men’s seasonal bests above 5.00 meters and 752 women’s seasonal bests above 3.60 meters. In the men’s list, USA had the greatest number of vaulters (22) in the top 100, with Brad Walker ranking #1 at 6.00 meters. Germany had the next greatest number (14) in the top 100, with Tim Lobinger ranking #4 at 5.90 meters. The top five countries, in number of vaulters in the world top 100 were: United States (22) #1 Brad Walker 6.00 #8 Toby Stevenson 5.82 #11 Russ Buller 5.80 Germany (14) #4 Tim Lobinger 5.90 #5 Danny Ecker 5.86 #6 Björn Otto 5.85 Russia (8) #39 Sergey Kucheryanu 5.65 #44 Dmitriy Starodubtsev 5.61 #48 Yevgeniy Lubjanenko 5.60 France (6) #9 Romaine Mesnil 5.81 #38 Vincent Favretto 5.65 #42 Damiel Dossevi 5.62 Ukraine (5) #21 Vladyslav Revenko 5.75 #29 Maksym Mazuryk 5.70 #30 Denys Yurchenko 5.70 It’s immediately obvious that number ranked in the top 100 isn’t a very complete answer to which country has the best vaulters, when it’s noted that Australia doesn’t make the top five of the men’s compilation. It’s a little hard to justify ranking Russia, with top vaulters at #39,44,48 above Australia, with vaulters at #2,3,28. Australia (4) #2 Steve Hooker 5.96 #3 Paul Burgess 5.92 #28 Dmitri Markov 5.70 Similar stats for women in the top 100 for the 2006 outdoor season, with Poland and France tying for fifth place in numbers of athletes so ranked: United States (18) #6 Jenn Stuczynski 4.66 #12 Chelsea Johnson 4.60 #14 Lacy Janson 4.58 Germany (12) #9 Nastja Ryjikh 4.63 #11 Yvonne Buschbaum 4.62 #16 Silke Spiegelburg 4.56 Russia (8) #1 Yelena Isinbayeva 4.91 #5 Svetlana Feofanova 4.70 #8 Tatyana Polnova 4.65 Australia (7) #10 Kym Howe 4.62 #15 Tatiana Grigorieva 4.58 #42 Alana Boyd 4.40 Poland (6) #2 Monika Pyrek 4.75 France (6) #4 Vanessa Boslak 4.70 Again, it’s difficult to see that this would be an acceptable way of answering the question of “best country for vaulting,” with Russia having the top vaulter and three top-10 rankings, but trailing USA and GER overall. Next—easier—question?
t-and-f: Women's PV Indoor National Records
NATIONAL INDOOR RECORDS--WOMEN a/o 15 April 2007 Algeria 2.50i Linda Chellakh Grenoble 1995-01-22 Andorra 2.65i Sara Guerra Vilana Vilafranca 2005-02-27 Argentina 4.25i Alejanda Garcia Santa Fe, ARG 2004-10-06 Australia 4.72i Kym HoweDonetsk 2007-02-10 Austria 4.44i Doris Auer Glasgow 2001-03-18 Belarus 4.05i Yuliya Taratynova Minsk 2006-02-12 Belgium 4.10i Irena DufourGent2003-02-16 Brazil 4.66i Fabiana Murer Paris 2007-02-23 Bulgaria4.50i Tania Koleva-Stefanova Athína 2005-02-16 Burundi 3.60i Laetitia Berthier Aubiere 2005-01-29 Canada 4.41i Dana Ellis Albuquerque 2007-02-03 Chile 4.10i Carolina Torres Magglingen 2003-03-02 China 4.45i Shuying Gao Sindelfingen 2002-03-10 4.45i Zhao Yingying Madrid 2005-02-24 Colombia3.91i Milena Agudelo Santa Fe, ARG 2004-10-06 Croatia 4.00i Ivona Jerkovic Zagreb 2005-02-19 Cyprus 4.40i Anna FitadouAthina 2005-01-29 Czech Rep 4.65i Katerina Badurová Praha 2007-02-14 Denmark 4.23i Marie Bagger-Rasmussen Malmö 2002-02-17 Egypt 3.64i Sonya Ahmed Tulsa 2001-02-24 El Salvador 3.66i Michelle Rivera Los Angeles 2002-02-23 Estonia 3.92i Kristina UlitinaTallinn 2006-02-11 Finland 4.21i Minna Nikkanen Helsinki 2006-03-04 France 4.65i Vanessa Boslak Moskva 2006-03-11 Georgia 2.70i Ina Narijniak Tbilisi 1998-02-22 Germany 4.70i Carolin Hingst Ludwigshaven 2007-01-14 Gt Britain 4.44i Janine Whitlock Birmingham 2002-02-17 Greece 4.37i Yeoryia Tsiliggiri Pireaus 2002-02-23 4.37i Katerina Stefanídi Athíni 2004-02-20 Guam3.45i Juliana Jensen Reno2002-01-12 Guatemala 3.35i Peggy OvalleLawrence, KS 2006-01-28 Guinea-Bissau 2.28i Placida Mirolho Espinho 2003-02-15 Hungary 4.51i Zsuzsanna Szabó Budapest 1999-02-04 Iceland 4.51i Thórey Elisdóttir Fayetteville 2001-03-10 Indonesia 3.82i Desy Margawati Tsaotun 2001-02-03 Ireland 3.87i Erin Kinear Gainesville 2007-01-27 Israel 3.80i Olga DogadkoMoskva 2003-02-12 3.80i Zhanna Barrer Moskva 2003-02-23 Italy 4.30i Francesca Dolcini Zweibrücken 2002-02-01 Jamaica 3.36i Sandé Swaby Lincoln 2001-02-23 Japan 4.30i Masumi Ono Tianjin 2002-03-03 Jersey 2.50i Heather Le Cocq Stoke 1990-01-27 Kazakhstan 3.90i Yelena Reznik Tianjin 2001-02-18 Korea 3.22i Choi Yun-HeeToyota 2001-03-20 Latvia 3.92i Rita Obizajeva Kaunas 2004-02-22 Lithuania 3.90i Edita Grigelionyte Kaunas 2006-03-17 Luxembourg 3.60i Stephanie Vieillevoye Luxembourg 2005-01-29 Malaysia4.00i Roslinda Samsu Teheran 2004-02-07 Mali2.82i Aminata Sanako Cergy-la-Tour 1996-01-13 Mexico 3.90i Alejandra Meza Houston 2003-01-18 Moldova 3.00i Lina Mafei Chinsinau 2006-02-05 Morocco 3.17i Zakia El Hassouni Cergy-la-Tour 1996-01-13 Netherlands 4.45i Monique de Wilt Gent2003-02-15 New Zealand 4.30i Jenni Dryburgh Auckland 2002-06-29 Norway 4.10i Cathrine Larsåsen Budapest 2007-01-26 Peru3.35i Maria Isabel Ferrand Houston 2006-02-11 Philippines 3.85i Deborah Samson Flagstaff 2006-02-04 Poland 4.80i Anna Rogowska Liévin 2006-03-05 Portugal4.32i Elisabete Tavares Epinal 2006-02-11 Puerto Rico 4.15i Denisse Orengo Reno2005-01-22 Reunion 4.00i Béatrice Denis Paris 2003-01-25 Romania 4.25i Gabriella Mihalcea Pireaus 1999-02-13 Russia 4.93i Yelena Isinbayeva Donetsk 2007-02-10 San Marino 3.00i Eleonora Rossi Modena 2006-01-22 Sao Tome2.78i Nair Varela Espino 2006-01-28 Serbia/CG 4.10i Slavica SemenjukAthína 2006-02-22 Slovakia4.05i Slavomíra Slúková Bratislava 2005-02-19 Slovenia4.20i Teja Melink Budapest 2005-01-28 So Africa 4.41i Elmarie Gerryts Birmingham 2000-02-20 Spain 4.56i Naroa AgirreSeville
t-and-f: Men's PV Indoor National Records
MEN'S INDOOR NATIONAL RECORDS a/o 15 April 2007 Albania 5.00i Sazan Fisheku Sofia 1992-02-15 Algeria 5.30i Samy Si MohammedParis 1994-01-30 Andorra 4.70i Bernat Vilella Sala Valencia 2006-02-18 Argentina 5.60i Germán Chiaraviglio Donetsk 2007-02-10 Australia 5.81i Steve HookerBoston 2006-01-27 Austria 5.77i Hermann Fehringer Wien1991-02-24 Barbados3.60i Clifford Brooks London 1977-01-08 Belarus 5.85i Dmitriy Markov Stockholm 1996-03-09 Belgium 5.70i Thibaut Duval Wien2002-03-02 Belgium 5.70i Kevin Rans Donetsk 2006-02-12 Bosnia 4.70i Borivoj Bosnjak Sarajevo 1975-02-12 Brazil 5.50i Tom HintnausGent1988-02-17 Brit Virgin Is 4.20i Paul Hewlett Cosford 1988-03-06 Bulgaria5.76i Spas Bukhalov Sofia 2006-02-04 Burkina Faso 2.60i Aziz Ouedraogo Fronton 2004-12-12 Canada 5.65i Doug Wood Winnipeg 1992-03-15 China 5.61i Yang Quan Shanghai 2007-03-15 Croatia 5.00i Zoran Radovanovic Budapest 1988-01-23 Cuba5.00i Alberto Manzano Paris 1993-02-20 Cyprus 5.35i Fotis Stefani Pireas 1995-01-28 Czech Rep 5.81i Adam Ptacek Chemnitz 2003-02-07 Denmark 5.72i Martin Voss Malmö 1995-02-25 Estonia 5.65i Valeri Bukrejev Kuopio 1995-03-05 Finland 5.83i Jani Lehtonen Stockholm 1994-03-08 France 6.00i Jean Galfione Maebashi 1999-03-06 Georgia 4.90i Chetkoshvili Gocha Tbilisi 1981-02-10 Germany 6.00i Danny Ecker Dortmund 2001-02-11 Gt Britain 5.81i Nick Buckfield Bad Segeberg 2002-02-09 Greece 5.65i Christos Pallakis Barcelona 1995-03-10 Grenada 4.30i Keron Francis Nampa 2006-02-23 Hungary 5.82i Istvan Bagyula New York 1992-02-07 Iceland 5.30i Sigurdur Sigurdsson Saint Augustin 1984-03-18 India 4.00i Girish PatelCosford 1973-03-17 Iran5.10i Eshagh Ghaffari Teheran 2004-01-21 5.10i Mohsen Rabbani Teheran 2004-01-21 Ireland 5.02i John Hallissey Glasgow 1997-01-19 Israel 5.86i Alexander Averbukh Stockholm 2001-02-15 Italy 5.82i Giuseppe Gibilisco Donetsk 2001-02-15 Ivory Coast 4.80i Alain Andji Bordeaux 1992-02-16 Jamaica 5.20i Jabari EnnisNorman 2002-02-02 Japan 5.70i Daichi Sawano Reno2004-01-10 Kazakhstan 5.92i Igor PotapovitchStockholm 1998-02-19 Kuwait 5.10i Ali Makki Al-Sabagha Pattaya 2006-02-11 Latvia 5.74i Aleksandrs Obizajevs Moskva 1983-02-12 Lichtenstein 4.50i Roman Jäger Dornbirn 2005-01-30 Lithania5.30i Zigmas Biliunas Kaunas 1984-02-04 Luxembourg 5.40i Fabian MoresInnsbruck 2006-01-21 Macedonia 3.60i Vladimir Karer Beograd 1969-02-03 Morocco 5.00i Soufiane JarmaniBompas 2006-02-04 Mauritius 5.60i Jean Kersley Gardenne Liévin 1998-01-15 Mexico 5.71i Giovanni Lanaro Flagstaff 2006-02-18 Moldova 5.75i Alexandr Jukov Tbilisi 1990-05-25 Monaco 3.30i Anthony de Sévelinges Nice 2003-12-14 Netherlands 5.75i Rens Blom Birmingham 2003-03-15 New Zealand 4.50i Matthew Roper London 1989-01-15 Norway 5.71i Trond Barthel Dortmund 1999-02-13 Pakistan4.60i Muhammad Ayub Pattaya 2006-02-11 Poland 5.85i Miroslaw Chmara Berlin 1989-02-04 Portugal5.62i Francesco Nuno Fernandes San Sebastian 1996-02-24 Peru5.10i Francesco Leon Reno2004-01-10 Romania 5.61i Tiberiu Agoston Toulouse 2001-03-04 Russia 6.00i Maksim Tarasov Budapest 1999-02-95 San Marino 3.60i Massimo Piovaticci Modena 2005-01-09 Senegal 5.14i Karim Séne Carrieres-sous-Poissy 2007-02-03 Serbia/CG 5.20i Dragan Georgijevski Cvajbriken 1990-02-02 Serbia/CG 5.20i Fedja KamasiPireas 2002-02-23 Slovakia5.30i Rudolf Haraksim Praha 2004-02-21 Slovenia5.56i Jure Rovan Pireaus 2000-01-22 So Africa 5.90i Okkert BritsLiévin 1997-02-16 Spain 5.80i Jose Manuel Arcos Saragoza 1999-02-26 St. Lucia 5.55i Dominic Johnson
t-and-f: Women's Decathlon Schedule?
A student-athlete has written to me, asking if I know of any women's decathlons scheduled in the U.S. this season. I didn't, but wrote to the University of Missouri, to ask whether their Audrey Walton Combined Events Carnival, where Austra Skujyte (LTU) set the current world record, would be held this year. Replies from the Mizzou sports info office and their track coach confirmed that the event is planned for April 12-13, but noted that few entries had been received thus far. If anyone knows of other decathlon competitions scheduled for this summer, I'd be happy to pass the information along.
t-and-f: Women's Decathlon 2006
Can it be that there were only two decathlon competitions for women in 2006? Data from those in Columbia, Missouri and Udine, Italy are the only ones that made the world lists of Ottavio Castellini and Mirko Jalava. That seems very strange to me, since the event, only very recently officially competed, would seem a natural target for heptathletes interested in trying for new national records. Of the 2006 results, only that of Sara Tani, for Italy, would seem to qualify as a national record. I'd appreciate any additions or corrections to the annual and national records lists shown below. RR Decathlon 2006 WOMEN WR 8358 Austra Skujyte LTU Columbia, MO 2005-05-15 MarkAthlete Nat Birth Pos Venue Date 8091 Austra Skujyte LTU 1979-08-12 1 Columbia, MO 2006-04-14 (12.70/1.5 - 49.21 - 3.20 - 41.78 - 1:00.01 / 14.50/0.5 - 5.98/3.4 - 16.46 - 1.86 - 5:32.01) 7064 Breanna Eveland USA 1984-02-25 2 Columbia, MO 2006-04-14 (13.05/1.5 - 40.37 - 4.30 - 36.72 - 1:02.85 / 15.04/0.5 - 5.30/0.7 - 11.66 - 1.50 - 5:36.66) 6599Sara Tani ITA 1983-01-29 1 Udine 2006-10-22 (13.50/0.1- 26.24 - 3.30 - 37.38 - 1:02.18 / 15.32/0.3 - 5.42/1.2 - 12.27 - 1.66 - 5:28.26) 6338Marianne Schlachter GER 1985-04-02 3 Columbia, MO 2006-04-14 (13.70/1.5 - 31.37 - 3.60 - 37.76 - 1:06.19 / 15.94/0.5 - 5.63/1.9 - 9.64 - 1.56 - 5:29.17) 6296 Ada Salgarella ITA 1978-04-24 2 Udine 2006-10-22 (12.96/0.1 - 29.99 - 2.70 - 34.48 - 1:00.45 / 15.26/0.3 - 5.45/-0.1 - 9.79 - 1.66 - 5:46.24) National Records a/o 2006 Argentina 6570 Andrea Bordalejo 1 Rosario 2004-11-28 Austria 6830 Marion Obermayr (77-10-29) 1 Linz 2002-05-05 Cuba7245 Magolis Garcia (81-09-05)1 Vienna 2002-06-29 Czech Rep 6749 Barbora Spotáková (81-06-30) 4 Talence 2004-09-26 Estonia 6411 Anu Teessar (83-02-15) 1 Valga 2004-09-05 France 8150 Marie Collonville (73-11-23) 1 Talence 2004-09-26 Great Brit 6542 Julie Holman (77-02-16) 3 Ahlen 1997-09-21 Germany 7885 Mona Steigauf (70-01-17) 1 Ahlen 1997-09-21 Italy 6599 Sara Tani (83-01-29 1 Udine 2006-10-22 Kazakhstan 7798 Irina Naumenko (80-02-13)2 Talence2004-09-26 Lithuania 8358 Austra Skujyte (79-08-12)1 Columbia 2005-04-15 Netherlands 6902 Saskia Meijer (79-02-08) 2 Apeldoorn 1997-10-05 Norway 5954 Tove Beate Dahle (88-04-06) 1 Ski 2004-09-12 Poland 6724 Elzbieta Raczka (70-11-19) 7 Lage 2000-09-10 Russia 7742 Anna Snetkova (79-02-25) 1 Krasnodar 2003-09-20 Spain 6614 Maria Peinado (81-09-05) 1 Castellón 2005-10-23 Ukraine 6448 Larisa Teteryuk (70-12-24)2 Linz 1997-09-14 USA 7577 Tiffany Lott-Hogan (75-08-01) 2 Lage 2000-09-10
t-and-f: ESP Record Correction
Carles Baronet writes that I mis-read the details his listing of Naroa Agirre's 4.51m national indoor record for Spain. I had it as Zaragoza on 6 January. The correct venue and date are Donostia (San Sebastian) on 4 January. Javier Etayo also adds details of a total of seven indoor record improvements or ties for Agirre, five for Dana Cervantes--another good duel over a national record. Thanks to Carles and Javier
t-and-f: Spanish Indoor PV Record
Thanks to both Carole Fuchs and Carles Baronet for sending this improvement on the women's national indoor vault record I posted for Spain last week: 4.51i Naroa Agirre (1979-05-15) 1 Zaragoza 6 Jan 2007 I'm not sure my files would have all of Agirre's records, but this would be a least her fifth improvement of the Spanish record, beginning with 4.30 in 2003; to go with her eight improvements of the outdoor record. Agirre is 177 cm tall, weighs 67 kilos.
t-and-f: Pole Vault Indoor National Records
Every North American vault fan would know that the indoor season doesn't really start in earnest until the National Pole Vault Summit in Reno, on January 19-20. Just to whet your appetite, though, here are the men's and women's indoor records as I had them at the end of the 2006 season. I have a little more confidence in my women's list than the men's list, but additions and corrections to either will be much appreciated. Happy new year to all: especially all vaulters! MEN'S INDOOR NATIONAL RECORDS a/o 7/2006 Albania 5.00Sazan Fisheku 68 15.02.92 Sofia Algeria 5.30Samy Si Mohammed30.01.94 Paris Andorra 4.70Bernat Vilella Sala 85 18.02.06 Valencia Argentina 5.41Germán Chiaraviglio 87 07.10.04 Santa Fe Australia 5.80Paul Burgess12.02.06 Donetsk Austria 5.77Hermann Fehringer 62 24.02.91 Wien Barbados3.60Clifford Brooks 08.01.77 London Belarus 5.85Dmitriy Markov 75 09.03.96 Stockholm Belgium 5.70Thibaut Duval 02.03.02 Wien Belgium 5.70Kevin Rans 12.02.06 Donetsk Bosnia 4.70Borivoj Bosnjak 12.02.75 Sarajevo Brazil 5.50Tom Hintnaus17.02.88 Gent Brit Virgin Is 4.20Paul Hewlett06.03.88 Cosford Bulgaria5.76Spas Bukhalov 80 04.02.06 Sofia Burkina Faso2.60Aziz Ouedraogo 12.12.04 Fronton Canada 5.65Doug Wood 66 15.03.92 Winnipeg China 5.60Liu Feiliang85 25.02.06 Beijing Croatia 5.00Zoran Radovanovic 65 23.01.88 Budapest Cuba5.00Alberto Manzano 20.02.93 Paris Cyprus 5.35Fotis Stefani 28.01.95 Pireas Czech Republic 5.81Adam Ptacek 80 07.02.03 Chemnitz Denmark 5.72Martin Voss 67 25.02.95 Malmö Estonia 5.65Valeri Bukrejev 64 05.03.95 Kuopio Finland 5.83Jani Lehtonen 68 08.03.94 Stockholm France 6.00Jean Galfione 71 06.03.99 Maebashi Georgia 4.90Chetkoshvili Gocha 10.02.81 Tbilisi Germany 6.00Danny Ecker 11.02.01 Dortmund Great Britain 5.81Nick Buckfield 73 09.02.02 Bad Segeberg Greece 5.65Christos Pallakis 71 10.03.95 Barcelona Grenada 4.30Keron Francis 23.02.06 Nampa Hungary 5.82Istvan Bagyula 69 07.02.92 New York Iceland 5.30Sigurdur Sigurdsson 57 18.03.84 Saint Augustin India 4.00Girish Patel17.03.73 Cosford Iran5.10Eshagh Ghaffari 81 21.01.04 Teheran Iran5.10Mohsen Rabbani 83 21.01.04 Teheran Ireland 5.02John Hallissey 72 19.01.97 Glasgow Israel 5.86Alexander Averbukh 74 15.02.01 Stockholm Italy 5.82Giuseppe Gibilisco 79 15.02.04 Donetsk Ivory Coast 4.80Alain Andji 74 16.02.92 Bordeaux Jamaica 5.20Jabari Ennis80 02.02.02 Norman Japan 5.70Daichi Sawano 80 10.01.04 Reno Kazakhstan 5.92Igor Potapovitch67 19.02.98 Stokholm Kuwait 5.10Ali Makki Al-Sabagha11.02.06 Pattaya Latvia 5.74Aleksandrs Obizajevs12.02.83 Moskva Lichtenstein4.50Roman Jäger 83 30.01.05 Dornbirn Lithania5.30Zigmas Biliunas 04.02.84 Kaunas Luxembourg 5.40Fabian Mores83 21.01.06 Innsbruck Macedonia 3.60Vladimir Karer 23.02.69 Beograd Mauritius 5.60Jean Kersley Gardenne 15.01.98 Liévin Mexico 5.71Giovanni Lanaro 81 18.02.06 Flagstaff Moldova 5.75Alexandr Jukov 25.05.90 Tbilisi Monaco 3.30Anthony de Sévelinges 14.12.03 Nice Morocco 5.00Soufiane Jarmani85 04.02.06 Bompas Netherlands 5.75Rens Blom 77 15.03.03
t-and-f: Women's National Pole Vault Records
As always, additions and corrections for my records file are much appreciated. This year, I owe special thanks to Carles Baronet, Gérard Dumas, Carole Fuchs, Heinrich Hubbeling, Mirko Jalava, Børre Lilloe, and Michel Saint-Raymond for bringing to my attention marks that I otherwise might have missed. After I sent the men's records yesterday, Børre reminded me that I need to keep track of changes in country names as well as of changes in pole vault records; e.g., Yugoslavia to Serbia, Zaire to Democratic Republic of the Congo. NATIONAL OUTDOOR POLE VAULT RECORDS—WOMEN a/o 2006-12-12 Åland 2.01Zaida Wiss 2001-07-22 Mariehamn Algeria 3.70Linda Méziani 2000-05-07 Franconville Andorra 2.80Maria Martinez 2005-04-301 Andorra Argentina 4.43Alejandra Garcia2004-04-031 Santa Fe Australia 4.62Kym Howe 2006-03-251 Melbourne Austria 4.40Doris Auer 2000-09-172 Gold Coast Belarus 4.20Svetlana Makarevich 2005-07-232 Kaunas Belgium 4.20Irena Dufour2004-08-031 Naimette-Xhovémont Belize 2.60Clarencia Jones 2003-09-04 San Jose CRC Bolivia 2.55Maria Carmen Paredes2006-05-141 Cochabamba Bosnia-Herz 2.40Mehdija Suljic 2005-06-187 Istanbul Brazil 4.66Fabiana Almeida Murer 2006-08-201 Monaco Bulgaria4.45Tanya Stefanova 2003-06-212 Velenje Burundi 3.50Laetitia Berthier 2006-06-172 Venissieux Cambodia2.61Helene Kong 2006-06-284 Forbach, FRA Canada 4.51Dana Ellis 2005-07-151 Winnipeg Cape Verde Is 2.20Vera Tavares2004-03-13 Almada Central Africa 2.00Chancela Moundo 2006-06-251 Marseilles Chad1.80Amina Mahamat 2003-05-01 Saint-Jean-de-Luz Chile 4.30Carolina Maurer-Torres 2003-08-092 Santo Domingo China 4.53Gao Shuying 2005-09-021 Incheon Colombia4.21Milena Agudelo 2005-08-191 Armenia Congo 2.40Carine Golom Mbeh 2004-07-15 Brazzaville Costa Rica 2.70Maureen Calvo 2001-03-04 Desampa Croatia 4.05Ivona Jerkovic 2005-07-291 Zagreb Cuba4.25Katiuska Pérez 2005-07-091 La Nassau Cyprus 4.30Anna Fitidou2003-06-151 Trikala Czech Republic 4.60Pavla Hamácková 2003-06-211 Velenje Denmark 4.35Marie Bagger Rasmussen 2000-09-258 Sydney Dominican Rep 3.35Leidy Araujo2003-07-271 Santo Domingo Ecuador 3.35Lorena Ortiz2005-07-091 Quito Egypt 3.60Nesrine Iman2006-08-104 Bambous, MRI El Salvador 3.73Michelle Rivera 2002-05-10 Van Nuys, CA Estonia 3.90Merle Kivimets 2000-07-082 Kaunas Fiji2.90Ioawana Vakaloloma 2003-07-08 Suva Finland 4.17Minna Nikkanen 2006-07-161 Lapinlahti France 4.70Vanessa Boslak 2006-06-282 Málaga Georgia 2.70Ina Narujniak 1996-05-221 Tbilisi Germany 4.77Annika Becker 2002-07-071 Bochum Ghana 3.25Enoch Alarbi Mensa 2006-02-251 Cape Coast Great Britain 4.47Janine Whitlock 2005-07-22 3= London Greece 4.48Afrodíti Skafída2005-06-111 Athína Guatemala 3.50Peggy Ovalle2005-05-151 St. Charles, MO Guernsey2.25Fiona Ferbrache 1998-08-01 St Peter Port Guinea-Bissau 2.55Placida Mirolho 2003-06-15 Almada, POR Honduras2.60Glenda Aguilar 1998-07-05 Mexico City Hong Kong 3.10Lin Wan Nei 2006-07-025 Hong Kong Hungary 4.55Krisztina Molnár
t-and-f: Men's National Pole Vault Records
In assembling this list of men's vault records, I have depended greatly on data from the 2003 edition of National Athletics Records (Winfried Kramer, et. al.). I've made a few recent additions, but would have missed many of the lower, less-widely-reported marks. A new edition of the Kramer book is expected this spring. For publication details on what is--by far--the most complete and accurate compilation of all the men's and women's outdoor track and field records, you can check with Winfried at [EMAIL PROTECTED] NATIONAL OUTDOOR POLE VAULT RECORDS—MEN a/o 2006-12-10 Åland 4.95Rune Sjölund1978-06-30 Vasteras Albania 5.40Sazan Fisheku 1991-07-07 Athina Algeria 5.34Lakhdar Rahal 1979-06-04 Paris Andorra 4.70Bernat Vilella 2005-05-31 Andorra La Vella Angola 4.05José Francisco 1984-06-11 Luanda Anguilla2.83Andre Samuel2001-05-11 Buffalo Antigua 3.80Calvin Greenaway1973-06-02 Newham Antilles3.50Ivor Landburg 1997-08-31 Sittard Argentina 5.71Germán Chiaraviglio 2006-08-19 Beijing Armenia 4.40Onik Khachatrian1978-06-15 Yerevan Aruba 3.30Ericko Pieternella 1995- Australia 6.05Dmitriy Markov 2001-08-09 Edmonton Austria 5.77Hermann Fehringer 1991-07-05 Linz Azerbaijan 5.00Aleksandr Zyatin1973-05-05 Kharkov Bahamas 4.89Brent Vanderpool1987- Nassau Bahrain 4.45Ibrahim Hussein 1995-04-16 Manama Bangladesh 4.32Humayun Kabir 2003-03-04 Mirpur Barbados3.70Clifford Brooks 1977-08-13 London Belarus 6.00Dmitriy Markov 1998-02-20 North Shore Belgium 5.70Thibault Duval 2000-06-11 Oordegem Belize 3.20Joel Wade 1994-01-21 San Salvador Benin 3.50John Godonou-Dossou 1957-06-30 Dakar Bermuda 3.86Brooke Onley1987-05-15 Tuscaloosa Bolivia 3.90Daniel Araujo 1986-08-24 Cochabamba Bosnia-Herze4.80Borivoje Bosnjak1974-06-30 Sarajevo Botswana2.50Geofehngwe Osupile 1987-07-25 Gaborone Brazil 5.76Tom Hintnaus1985-08-21 Zurich Brit Virgin Isl 4.20Paul Hewlett1987-08-13 Indianapolis Brunei 4.70Domingo Kapal 1995-09-03 Singapore Bulgaria5.80Atanas Tarev1986-09-02 Lausanne Burkina Faso3.85Alassane Néya 1993-05-02 Ouagadougou Burundi 4.10Pierre Ntibarashirwa1979-09-09 Bujumbura Cambodia3.90Péou Chin 1968-07-18 Phnom Penh Cameroon4.05Bienvenu Djakissam 1966-08-21 Viry-Chatillon Canada 5.61Doug Wood 1991-07-14 Papendal Cape Verde Is 2.60Pericles Pinto 1975-07-27 Lisboa Central Africa 3.80Mickael Conjungo1989-04-30 Noisy-le-Grand Chad3.80Hubert Djimtoloum 1963- Brazzaville Chile 5.50Thomas Riether 1992-05-28 Tallahassee China 5.70Liu Feilang 2005-06-04 Eugene Chinese Taipei 5.30Lee Fu-An 1990-10-29 Kaohsiung Colombia5.40Miguel Saldarriaga 1991-07-27 Medellin Congo 4.25Jean-Prosper Tsondzabéka 1969-06-14 Tunis Cook Islands3.10Akanoa William 1987-12-18 Nouméa Costa Rica 5.20Roger Borbon1998-07-11 San Antonio Croatia 5.12Zoran Radovanovic 1989-05-20 Ljubljana Cuba5.65Angel Garcia1992-06-12 La Habana Cyprus 5.56Fotis Stephani 2000-06-09 Minsk Czech Republic 5.80Adam Ptacek 2002-07-13 Praha
t-and-f: Re: Generally disappointing season?
On October 15, under this subject line, I noted that the numbers of national records set this outdoor season in both the women's and men's vault were much fewer than in 2005 and wondered whether other list members might have similar comparisons for other events or opinions on whether this had been a generally disappointing year. I had several off-list responses, although I'd hoped for more activity on the t-and-f list, which I'm sorry to see so quiet. Some good perspectives offered on the subject, though, which I'll summarize. First, I'll provide a bit more data on annual NR changes in the women's vault, which might be useful. Year-to-year final improvements in the approximately 125 national records in the event: YearNRs Improved 200623 200544 200438 200349 200252 200144 200059 199951 199866 199756 199653 Some of the comments I received: It may be time for a plateau in the rapid progress of records for any new event--newness and latent talent have begun to match up. It would be interesting to make a similar comparison with another new event, e.g., the women's triple jump. RR--I'd like to see that comparison (or women's steeple?), if someone has the data. Looking at the ten-year WPV developments, there seems to be a general trend in that direction for the first and seconds halves of the period, but nothing like an orderly plateau in this year's marked reduction in records. What has been a usual period of adaptation of progress in other events after their introduction? It may just be an expected and usual consequence of there not being a World Championship or Olympic incentive. The pole vault may be even more affected than some events because it was not a Golden League event. RR--Sounds reasonable, but if it's something that should happen every fourth year, that's not apparent in the above data for 2002 and 1998. ?? Other events--for example the men's sprints--were hot. RR--Again, I just don't have the depth of information about national records in other events to make a direct comparison. Mirko Jalava notes new records in his world deep lists, but these would only be for marks above the thresholds he sets for each event and these would not include some of national, but not world, significance. That said, I find that he showed 14 national records in the men's 100 meters for 2006, compared with 11 for 2005. His 2006 threshold for 2421 world marks was 10.90 seconds. In her response to the t-and-f list, Karen Locke noted seasonal highlights of Asafa Powell twice tying his 100 meters world record (with another tie registered by Justin Gatlin, but lost with his failed drug test and eight-year suspension), two area records for the 400m, a world record in the women's hammer, and two improvements in the U. S. collegiate WPV record. Karen concluded: I enjoyed the season. I did too, because I enjoy every track season. I was just a bit disappointed with several things about the women's vault: no improvement in the outdoor record for only the second year since 1988, the significant drop in new national records, no American vaulter within six inches of Stacy Dragila's record, Isinbayeva's failing to make the nominations list after selection as the IAAF top female athlete for two consecutive years . . . Maybe next year.
t-and-f: Generally disappointing season?
With major outdoor meets over for the season, I've done my usual update on women's national vault records. I'll send that along as a separate post. I was somewhat surprised to find only 23 records improved, among the 124 countries I've filed women's records for. I thought that seemed fewer than usual in this fast-developing event, so I checked last year's changes and found there were 44 improvements then, nearly twice the number. Was it just something to do with the women's vault? One way to check that was to look at changes in the men's vault NRs this season and last. I don't keep as careful men's lists as women's, but I do file men's national vault records for 235 countries (thanks largely to Winfried Kramer's National Athletics Records). I was able to find improvements for only five countries in this season, compared with 14 in 2005. So, I would say that at the elite levels for most countries, 2006 was a disappointing season for the pole vault. Was it for other events? For most other events? I don't have the data resources to answer that question. I'd appreciate an answer from someone with a more general overview of the track and field events; even an opinion. Cheers, Roger
t-and-f: Women's National Vault Records
NATIONAL OUTDOOR POLE VAULT RECORDS—WOMEN a/o 2006-09-05 Åland 2.01 Zaida Wiss2001-07-22 Mariehamn Algeria 3.70Linda Méziani 2000-05-07 Franconville Andorra 2.80Maria Martinez 2005-04-301 Andorra Argentina 4.43Alejandra Garcia 2004-04-031 Santa Fe Australia 4.62Kym Howe2006-03-251 Melbourne Austria 4.40Doris Auer2000-09-172 Gold Coast Belarus 4.20Svetlana Makarevich 2005-07-232 Kaunas Belgium 4.20Irena Dufour 2004-08-03 1 Naimette-Xhovémont Belize 2.60Clarencia Jones 2003-09-04 San Jose CRC Bolivia 2.55Maria Carmen Paredes 2006-05-141 Cochabamba Bosnia-Herz 2.40Mehdija Suljic 2005-06-187 Istanbul Brazil 4.66Fabiana Almeida Murer 2006-08-201 Monaco Bulgaria 4.45Tanya Stefanova 2003-06-212 Velenje Burundi 3.50 Laetitia Berthier 2006-06-172 Venissieux Cambodia 2.61 Helene Kong2006-06-284 Forbach, FRA Canada 4.51Dana Ellis2005-07-151 Winnipeg Cape Verde Is 2.20Vera Tavares 2004-03-13 Almada Central Africa 2.00 Chancela Moundo 2006-06-251 Marseilles Chad 1.80 Amina Mahamat 2003-05-01 Saint-Jean-de-Luz Chile 4.30Carolina Maurer-Torres 2003-08-092 Santo Domingo China 4.53Gao Shuying2005-09-021 Incheon Colombia 4.21Milena Agudelo 2005-08-191 Armenia Congo 2.40Carine Golom Mbeh 2004-07-15 Brazzaville Costa Rica 2.70Maureen Calvo 2001-03-04 Desampa Croatia 4.05Ivona Jerkovic 2005-07-291 Zagreb Cuba 4.25Katiuska Pérez 2005-07-091 La Nassau Cyprus 4.30Anna Fitidou 2003-06-151 Trikala Czech Republic 4.60Pavla Hamácková 2003-06-211 Velenje Denmark 4.35Marie Bagger Rasmussen 2000-09-258 Sydney Dominican Rep 3.35Leidy Araujo 2003-07-271 Santo Domingo Ecuador 3.35Lorena Ortiz 2005-07-091 Quito Egypt 3.60Nesrine Iman 2006-08-104 Bambous, MRI El Salvador 3.73Michelle Rivera 2002-05-10 Van Nuys, CA Estonia 3.90Merle Kivimets 2000-07-082 Kaunas Fiji 2.90Ioawana Vakaloloma 2003-07-08 Suva Finland 4.17Minna Nikkanen 2006-07-161 Lapinlahti France 4.70Vanessa Boslak 2006-06-282 Málaga Georgia 2.70Ina Narujniak 1996-05-221 Tbilisi Germany 4.77Annika Becker 2002-07-071 Bochum Ghana 3.25 Enoch Alarbi Mensa 2006-02-251 Cape Coast Great Britain 4.47Janine Whitlock 2005-07-22 3= London Greece 4.48Afrodíti Skafída 2005-06-111 Athína Guatemala 3.50Peggy Ovalle 2005-05-151 St. Charles, MO Guernsey 2.25Fiona Ferbrache 1998-08-01 St Peter Port Guinea-Bissau 2.55Placida Mirolho 2003-06-15 Almada, POR Honduras 2.60Glenda Aguilar 1998-07-05 Mexico City Hong Kong 3.10Lin Wan Nei2006-07-025 Hong Kong Hungary 4.55Krisztina Molnár 2006-08-221 Beckum Iceland 4.60Thórey Elisdóttir 2004-07-172 Madrid India 4.05 V. Suresh Surekha 2006-09-051 New Delhi Indonesia 4.10Desi Margawati 2002-08-103 Colombo Ireland 3.93Erin Kinnear 2004-04-241 Mobile Isle of Man 1.90Voirrey Callow 1995-Douglas Israel 4.02Olga Dogadko 2006-07-122 Tel Aviv Italy 4.31Arianna Farfaletti 2002-09-281 Conegliano Ivory Coast 3.20Dapéa Zaourou 1996-06-02 Annecy Jamaica 3.30Maria Newton 2000-04-23 Bromley Japan 4.36Ikuko Nishikori 2006-04-291 Hiroshima Jersey 2.50 Heather Le Cocq 1989-08-271 Stoke 2.50Alison Youd1999-05-231 St Clement Jordan 3.20Fatima Al Zahraa 2004-09-12 Damascus Kazakhstan 4.01Yelena Reznik 2000-09-151 Almaty Kenya 2.50Pauline Wambui 2005-06-101 Nairobi Korea 4.05Choi Yun-Hee 2005-09-024 Incheon Latvia 3.95Rita Obizajeva 2005-07-061 Lignano Lithuania 3.85Edita Grigelionyte 2005-06-151 Kaunas Luxembourg 3.60Stéphanie Vellevoye 2006-06-175 Novi Sad Madagascar 2.45 Anje Rajanoah 1998-07-251 Antananarivo Malaysia 4.40Roslinda Samsu 2006-07-101 Mataró Mauritius 3.71Nancy Cheekoussen 2004-07-251 Réduit Mexico 4.12Alejandra Meza 2005-04-091 Mexico City Moldova 3.20Lina Maftei2006-06-171 Banska Bystrica Morocco 4.05Nisrine Dinar 2006-07-161 Rabat Myanmar 3.11Ne Ne Win2005-02-111 Yangon Namibia 2.10Fienie Theron 1998-06-06 Windhoek Netherlands 4.40Monique de Wilt 2002-08-096 Munich New Caledonia 3.00Marion Becker 2003-05-10 Dijon New Zealand 4.40Melina Hamilton 2003-04-121 Runaway Bay Nicaragua 2.40 Maria Inaly Morazán
t-and-f: World Cup Teams
Teams participating in the World Cup meet next weekend are shown on the meet website http://www.athensworldcup2006.gr as Africa, America, Asia, Oceana, Europe, USA, France (men only), Poland (women only), Russia and home team Greece. With Marion Jones' team status an interesting question, it's disappointing not to find team membership on either the World Cup or USATF websites. Most team entry lists are shown at http://www.athensworldcup2006.gr/index.php?url=/pages/entries
t-and-f: Jones and World Cup?
Does anyone know how qualifiers are selected for the World Cup this weekend in Athens, and whether Marion's being cleared of drug charges would enable her entry, if otherwise prepared?
t-and-f: National Athletics Records
When Winfried Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] responded to the question I'd posted about division of Serbian and Montenegro records, I also asked about the schedule for publishing a next edition of National Athletics Records. Most subscribers will know that's a massive summary of national records, edited by Kramer with Fouad Habash, Heinrich Hubbeling, Tony Isaacs, and Yves Pinaud. Off-list, Winfried has replied that a new edition is planned for Spring 2007. That's good news. The 2003 version had pole vault records (my special interest) for 203 countries and other event records for far more countries that don't compete in the vault. Thanks for the reply, Winfried, and we'll be looking forward eagerly.
Re: t-and-f: Serbia and Montenegro records
On Thursday, August 3, 2006, at 11:27 PM, Winfried Kramer wrote: As there is no recordholder from Montenegro in the SCG lists, the Serbian lists are identical with those from SCG. -- Winfried Kramer Kohlrodweg 12 66539 Neunkirchen/GERMANY ATFS Editor of NATIONAL ATHLETICS RECORDS Fax: (49) 6821 932101 Thanks, Winfried. Would that all problems could be so easily solved. Care to share with these subscribers any info on when the next edition of National Athletics Records might be expected? Regards, Roger
Re: t-and-f: Re: Who is who in the USSR?
On Thursday, August 3, 2006, at 10:45 AM, Winfried Kramer wrote: Just today I have come across Roger Ruth's question as to the citizenship of former USSR pole vaulters. There are some good points in Randy Treadway's answer, but things were sometimes even more complicated. After the end of the USSR, Leo Heinla and me tried to compile lists for the new states and were faced with a lot of problems (Randy Treadway pointed out some). The biggest problem were the athletes in the army clubs: for instance, a club was located in a town in Ukraine, but a part of this unit fulfilled its service in Belarus. And in a kind of federation cup, he may have represented Ukraine, but actually he was born and brought up in Russia, and only his military service took place anywhere else. So there was no given solution. Heinla and me advised the newly-created federations as to their new records, some accepted our proposals, others had their own ideas. So some athletes are claimed by two nations nowadays. Thanks to Winfried for the additional information. With Serbia and Montenegro now formally separated, it will be interesting to see what happens with the records still listed, as recently as the 2003 edition of Kramer, et. al., National Athletics Records, as Yugoslavian records.
t-and-f: Women's Vault--4.30 and Above
Yesterday, I wrote: The 2005 season marked the completion of the first full decade of women's pole vault marks above 4.30 meters. 0n 28 January 1996, Emma George of Australia smashed this metric landmark with 4.41m at Perth. A month earlier, she had become the first 14-foot female vaulter, with 4.28m (14'1/2), also at Perth. I thought it would be interesting to check Mirko Jalava's world lists tilastopaja.net> to see how many vaulters, in total, have reached that 4.30 mark in the decade and what countries they represented. Next, I thought it would be interesting to see what vaulter has had the most years with seasonal bests of 4.30 or above. Here's what I found. The data do not include indoor, market square, or beach competitions: Vaulters with most seasonal bests 4.30m and over. (Where tied, listed by order of their first year at this height.) Stacy Dragila USA 9 1997 Anzhela Balakhonova UKR 8 1997 Yelena Belyakova RUS 8 1998 Nastja Ryshich GER 7 1998 Tatiana Grigorieva RUS/AUS 7 1999 Pavla Hamácková CZE 7 1999 Kellie Suttle USA 7 1999 Emma GeorgeAUS 6 1996 Alejandra Garcia ARG 6 1999 Thórey Ellísdóttir ISL 6 2000 Yelena Isinbayeva RUS 6 2000 Tracy O'Hara USA 6 2000 Monika Pyrek POL 6 2000 Mary SauerUSA 6 2000 Gao ShuyingCHN 6 2000 Tania Stefanova BUL 6 2000 Other vaulters with seasonal bests of 4.30 or over: Alana BoydAUS Alana BoydAUS Rosanna Ditton AUS Kim HoweAUS Bridgid Isworth AUS Kim HoweAUS Wendy Young AUS Doris Auer AUT Joana CostaBRA Fabiana Murer BRA Vera Chavdarova BUL Dana Ellis CAN Kelsie Hendry CAN Stephanie McCann CAN Carolina Maurer-Torres CHI Yang Jing CHN Wu Sha CHN Cai WeiyanCHN Zhao Yingying CHN Anna FitidouCYP Katerina Badurová CZE Daniela Bártová CZE Marie Bagger Bohn DEN Naroa Agirre ESP Dana Cervantes ESP Mari Mar SánchezESP Caroline Ammel FRA Vanessa Boslak FRA Amandine Homo FRA Agnes LivebardonFRA Marie Poissonnier FRA Julie Vigourt FRA Janine Whitlock GBR Christine Adams GER Annika Becker GER Yvonne BuschbaumGER Carolin Hingst GER Nicole Humbert GER Julia HütterGER Floé KühnertGER Andrea Müller GER Lisa RyshichGER Sabine Schulte GER Anna Schultze GER Silke Spiegelburg GER Martina Strutz GER Anna Wielgus GER Afrodíti Skafída GRE Ekateríni Stefanídi GRE Yeoryía Tsiliggíri GRE Katalin Donáth HUN Krisztina MolnárHUN Zsuzsanna Szabó HUN Vala FlosadóttirISL Arianna Farfalletti-Casali ITA Francesca Dolcini ITA Takayo KondoJPN Mami Nakano JPN Ikuko Nishikori JPN Monique de Wilt NED Sandra Van de Geer NED Jenni Dryburgh NZL Melina Hamilton NZL Róza Kasprzak POL Anna Rogowska POL Elmarie Gerryts RSA Natalya Belinskaya RUS Svetlana Feofanova RUS Anastasiya Ivanova RUS Anastasiya Kiryanova RUS Aleksandra Kiryashova RUS Tatyana Polnova RUS Teja Melink SLO Nadine Rohr SUI Kirsten Belin SWE Hanna-Mia Persson SWE Yuliya Kurkudym UKR Nataliya Kushch UKR Yevgeniya SavinaUKR Shayla BalentineUSA Erica Bartolina USA Aimee Crabtree USA Andrea Dutoit USA Breanna Eveland USA Shannon Gallagher USA Becky Holliday USA Lacy Janson USA Connie Jerz USA Chelsea Johnson USA Lesa Kubishta USA Amy Linnen USA Ebbie Metzinger USA Mel MuellerUSA Melissa Price USA Jillian SchwartzUSA Kira Sims USA Kate Soma USA Jill StarkeyUSA Monica Stearns USA April Steiner USA Lindsay Taylor USA Alicia Warlick USA Andrea Wildrick USA Keisa Monterola VEN To save you the trouble of counting, I make it a total of 120 vaulters at or above 4.30m to the end of 2005. Only five countries have six or more on the list: United States (28), Germany (15), Russia (9), Australia (8) and France (6). Grigorieva gets counted twice, for Russia in 1999 and the other six times for Australia.
Re: t-and-f: Women's Vault--4.30 and Above
On Saturday, July 29, 2006, at 11:35 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where is Svyetlana Fefanova, the second greatest vaulter in history, in all of this? Uri - Right here: Quoting Roger Ruth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Svetlana Feofanova RUS Anastasiya Ivanova RUS Anastasiya KiryanovaRUS Aleksandra Kiryashova RUS Tatyana Polnova RUS No questioning of Feofanova's place in present-day vaulting, but as I noted, I did not include indoor marks in this survey and that's her special niche. Outdoors, she cleared 4.30 or better in only five of the seasons covered. (She was injured and did not vault in the 2005 outdoor season.) Indoors, she had 4.30 or better in each of the seasons 2000-2005, setting world records in three of these years.
t-and-f: A Decade of 4.30m Women's Vaulting!
The 2005 season marked the completion of the first full decade of women's pole vault marks above 4.30 meters. (Bet you thought I'd miss that.) 0n 28 January 1996, Emma George of Australia smashed this metric landmark with 4.41m at Perth. A month earlier, she had become the first 14-foot female vaulter, with 4.28m (14'1/2), also at Perth. George was to better 4.30m another four times in 2005, finishing with a seasonal best of 4.45m. Cai Weiyan of China joined this exclusive 4.30m club in its first year with 4.32 at Beijing. I thought it would be interesting to check Mirko Jalava's world lists tilastopaja.net> to see how many vaulters, in total, have reached that 4.30 mark in the decade and what countries they represented. Next, I thought it would be interesting to see what vaulter has had the most years with seasonal bests of 4.30 or above. Just one woman has passed that threshold in nine of the ten years. I'm pretty sure you can guess who that was--too easy. But only two others have 4.30 seasonal bests in eight years. Naming those will be a little tougher. I'll let you work on that a little bit and post summaries tomorrow. BTW, I've included only outdoor marks and no market square or beach vault competitions. Cheers
t-and-f: Who's Who of the USSR?
When the USSR was dissolved in late 1991, how was it decided which of the national records of the Union would become those of the former member republics? The question arose for me when I assembled a list of men's indoor pole vault national records and shared it with my stat colleague, Gérard Dumas. He promptly questioned my attributing the Russian record to Maksim Tarasov (6.00m in 1999). The record, he said should be the 6.08m cleared by Sergey Bubka in 1999 when he was still competing for Russia. I think we straightened that out pretty quickly with recognizing that Bubka wasn't competing for Russia in the years prior to 1992, but for the USSR. But that left the question of how it was determined that Bubka's marks would be attributed to Ukraine and how all the rest of the USSR records would be re-allocated. They definitely were USSR records, as the national records are listed in my copy of the 1967 International Athletics Annual. Were the records re-assigned on the basis of then-current residence? Place of the athlete's club affiliation? More simply, during the days of the Union, were there state meets for athletes and teams for Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, etc.? Did athletes then represent those states in a national championship meet? In other inter-provincial meets? As you can see, I'm so ignorant of this history that I don't even know whether the component political units should be referred to as states or provinces or some other name. Certainly they are now nations, and the records previously set during the years of the Union have not been lost. I checked this in Winfried Kramer's National Athletics Records and found that the pole vault records of ten of the fifteen former Union Republics were set during the USSR years and now are attributed to the individual countries. Can someone give us a brief summary of athletics autonomy of the member-states in the Soviet Union, or direct us to a source for this information? Google struck out on this one. Thanks, Winfried, for your rich source of data!
t-and-f: World List Thresholds--Women
As I wrote yesterday in posting the men's World Deep List thresholds for each event and the number of athletes equalling or bettering those marks in the 2005 outdoor season, the data are taken from Mirko Jalava's website tilastopaja.net> with his permission to post them on this mailing list. The women's data are summarized below. Women's World Deep List Thresholds Event Threshold Ranked 2005 100m 12.10 1381 200m 24.60 1123 400m 55.75 997 800m 2:10.00 850 1500m 4:30.00 894 5000m 16:59.80 981 1m 35:29.46 513 3000mSC 11:00.00 433 100mH 14.50 1112 400mH 61.00 543 marathon 2:44:56 455 high jump 1.75 583 pole vault 3.60 796 long jump 5.90 833 triple jump 12.50 551 shot 14.00 488 discus 47.00 478 hammer 50.00 746 javelin 47.01 442 heptathlon 5000 330
t-and-f: World List Thresholds--Men
Knowing that I'm a subscriber to Mirko Jalava's website tilastopaja.net>, a friend wrote yesterday to ask whether there was a summary of marks that must be attained in each event to qualify for Mirko's World Deep List. I replied that I didn't know of such a summary, but that I'd run through the current rankings in the events and draw one up. Fairly early in that task, it occurred to me that it would take little extra effort to include the number of athletes who had met the threshold, to date, in the 2006 outdoor season, so I started over. Half-way through that task, it occurred to me that many subscribers to t-and-f might be interested in these data on depth in each event. I wrote to Mirko to ask permission to post that information. Before he could answer, it occurred to me that the data on numbers meeting the threshold through all of last year's outdoor season would be more meaningful that those for this early in 2006, so I revised my request. Mirko gave his permission to use either of those, so I'll summarize the list thresholds and the number of athletes meeting or bettering the thresholds in the 2005 outdoor season. I've since thought of another possible revision or two, but I'll let it go: Those after-thoughts are called Seniors' Moments. Men's World Deep List Thresholds Event Threshold Ranked 2005 100m 10.90 2472 200m 21.80 1775 400m 48.50 1704 800m 1:52.50 1483 1500m 3:52.00 1451 5000m 14:19.95 1189 1m 30:14.61 1183 3000mSC 9:03.96 535 110mH 14.80 1042 400mH 53.00 776 marathon 2:18:20 624 high jump 2.05 1011 pole vault 4.90 661 long jump 7.25 973 triple jump 15.00 778 shot 16.60 489 discus 50.00 665 hammer 60.00 451 javelin 65.00 621 decathlon 6952 311 I'll post women's thresholds and depth tomorrow. RR
t-and-f: Why 557?
Thanks to Ed, Travis, Drew, Tom, Wayne and Trey, and thanks again to those who responded off-list, for their very enlightening replies to my question Why 1500m, asking why this distance was selected as the metric mile equivalent and what are today's usual measures in high school distance races. I was reminded of a principal reason I have appreciated the t-and-f list over the years. I think it must be an important one for all of the 557 of us who have remained subscribers despite the decline in list activity: specifically, the usefulness of the list as a resource for answers to questions we may have about the sport we love. Google is a great resource, too, but a search for 1500 meters returned 636,000 references; a search for 1500 meters origins returned none. Presumably the answer to my question about why 1500 meters was chosen can be found among those 636,000 references, but even retired geezers like me have limits on how much time they can spend at the computer. How much easier, to send one letter to 557 knowledgeable people and get the answers I'm looking for in depth. Thanks again!
t-and-f: Why 1500m?
A recent mailing from Mike Prizy about a high school 3200 meter race in Chicago caused me to wonder about two matters of accommodation of metric and imperial distances: How frequently are high schools in the U.S. (and Canada and elsewhere?) running metric distances for races over 800m in even multiples of 400 meters? Does anyone run 1600m? Apparently some do run 3200m. How about 4800m (12 laps), or do they then switch to 5,000m (12 1/2 laps)? The other was to wonder, again, how it happened that the metric equivalent of the mile was adopted as 1500 meters, instead of 1600 meters. At 1 mile = 1609 meters, 1600 meters clearly is the closer choice. I suppose it may have been complicated by most tracks of the time being laid out as 440 yards instead of 400 meters, but either would require start lines/lanes well away from the finish line. Can anyone fill us in on this bit of history? I'm sure there would be others who would be interested.
Re: t-and-f: Olympic Shot Put Decline
On Monday, May 1, 2006, at 12:32 PM, Cathy Sellers wrote: Rarely do we see a world record at the Games. At one time, I looked at the averages from Games and World Championships for all events. If I remember right, WC performances were always higher. Doping maybe a big part of the reason for the performance declines, but I think that the athletes experience more distractions at the Games along with the pressure to perform for economic reasons than in the past. Those are intangibles that would be hard to measure, but I feel have an impact. I'm sorry to have taken so long to respond to Cathy's analysis: as always, on target and interesting. I did rough out a reply at the time, but it got lost on my desk. (Thanks, Cathy, for motivating a clean-up.) What I had done was to check the shot put results in the World Championships for the same time period I had previously reported for the Olympics. I think the main reason the draft got set aside was indecision about how to deal with the problem of the two events never occurring in the same year, but always two years apart. I think the fair resolution is to show the WC results both two years before and two years after the time period I had targeted for the Olympic results. Repeating the Olympics shot put data: 19881992199620002004 Men 22.47 21.70 21.62 21.29 21.16 Women 22.24 21.06 20.56 20.56 19.59 I noted: The succession of marks in the women's shot are especially disappointing. The winning distance at Atlanta and Sydney was the same; otherwise, each was less than in the previous Games and the Athens mark (19.59m) was the poorest since 1964. What's happening in this event? Most of the replies targeted better drugs control. Cathy offered an alternative explanation. World Championships shot put data: 19871991199519992003 2005 Men 22.23 21.67 21.47 21.79 21.67 21.73 Women 21.24 20.83 20.57 19.85 20.63 20.51 In comparing the two sets of data, I first had to get by my reaction to an aspect of World Championships history I hadn't known: They have been held ten times, initially every four years, more recently every four years; never in the United States. Why not? As for the comparison itself, it appears that regardless of whether one uses 1987-2003 or 1991-2005 WC data, there is an obvious trend of decline in performance for both men and women, although this decline is more consistent in the Olympics data. As for the greater effects of the Olympics on pressure and distraction, the averages for men in the years shown are 21.64m in the Olympics and 21.76m in the World Championships; for the women, 20.80m in the Olympics and 20.60m in the World Championships. Perhaps nothing to conclude there. At a time when there are great financial benefits for accomplishment (and especially for unprecedented accomplishments) in track and field, as well as in other sports, it seems surprising that this wouldn't result in continuing incentive for improvement in all events. On the other hand, maybe the trade-mark of shoes worn by weight-event athletes might be of less interest to potential sponsors than those worn by sprinters or distance runners. Or maybe we're back to the consequences of better drugs detection . . . -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Ruth Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 9:17 PM To: t-and-f@lists.uoregon.edu Subject: t-and-f: Olympic Shot Put Decline Kurt Bray and Wilmar Kortleever have offered very different perspectives on the declines I noted for winning marks in the men's and women's Olympic shot competitions. I probably should take the blame for going beyond my original inquiry into medalling repetitions to assessing trends in winning marks. There obviously are too many possible variations in the conditions that affect performances on any single date to try to draw conclusions from differences across four olympiads. I still think it would be interesting to explore whether those trends in the shot put (and other events) can be observed in more general data, such as annual world ranking lists. I don't have the library of resources that would be needed for that sort of study. Perhaps someone else will undertake that inquiry. I can contribute this further information about Olympic winning marks, over the time period I investigated, in each of the weight events. It can be seen that the downward trend is not as consistent in other events as in the shot put and the women's discus. (The asterisks indicate an improvement over the winning mark in the just-previous Games.) Men ShotDiscus Hammer Javelin 198822.47 68.82 84.80 84.28 199221.70 65.12 82.54 89.66* 199621.62 69.40* 81.24 88.16
Re: t-and-f: Olympic Shot Put Decline
Yuk!! Maybe I should have read that before I sent it, instead after I received it. :-( Some of the mistakes I see: I wrote that the world championships had been held ten times, initially every four years, more recently every four years. That should have been . . . more recently, every two years. I wrote that the two events (Olympics and World Championships) are always two years apart. Under current scheduling, the World Championships are held in the year previous to and the year following an Olympics. In my comparison, I intended showing the WC result in the year prior to the corresponding Olympics. I realized, on re-reading, that the reason I hadn't included the 2005 World Championships date in my original notes was that the two-year interval since the previous WC didn't fit the successive-olympiad comparison I'd intended. Sorry 'bout that. I'm kind of out of practice at sending to the t-and-f list; like about everybody.
t-and-f: Artificial Altitude Anti-doping
Runners Web has posted an article http://tinyurl.com/o5uhu> about a new move by the World Doping Agency that should be of great interest to distance runners and their coaches. According to the article, the Agency executive met yesterday in Montreal to consider whether use of hyperoxic chambers and other devices for simulating living and training at altitude should be banned. It seems to me that persuasive arguments could be made on either side. On the one hand, it may be unfair for athletes who live at high altitude to enjoy an undoubted advantage over other runners who do not, but who could lessen their disadvantage by simulation of training at altitude. On the other hand, short-term training at altitude or simulation of this still leaves athletes who cannot afford these remedies at a competitive disadvantage. The article doesn't say anything about the popular practice for some countries of sending athletes for high-altitude training camps in preparation for the Olympics and other major international meets. I wonder whether this was a part of the agenda for the Montreal meeting? Thanks to Bob Ramsak David Monti for permission to direct our readers to the website.
t-and-f: Olympic Repeats--Women
Women's Olympic Medal Repeats. I've used the same procedures and data sources as described in yesterday's post of the men's events and medals. The chart that follows shows, for each event, the number of times during the most recent four Olympic Games that the winning mark was better than in the just-previous Games (BM), the number of times a winner repeated in the next Games (WW), the number of times a winner received any medal in the next Games (WM) and the number of times any medalist medaled in the next Games. Event BM WW WM MM (Notes) 100m 1/4 1/4 1/4 1/12 200m 1/4 0/4 0/4 1/12 400m 1/4 1/4 2/4 3/12 800m 2/4 0/4 0/4 2/12 1500m 1/4 0/4 0/4 1/12 10,000m 2/4 0/4 2/4 2/12 Marathon 2/4 0/4 1/4 2/12 100m Hurdles 2/4 0/4 1/4 2/12 400m Hurdles 2/4 0/4 1/4 1/12 High Jump 2/4 0/4 0/4 1/13 Long Jump 1/4 0/4 1/4 4/12 (1) Shot 0/4! 0/4 1/4 2/12 (2) Discus 0/4 0/4 0/4 4/12 Javelin 2/4 0/4 0/4 1/12 Heptathlon 1/4 1/4 1/4 3/12 --data formatted in 14-pt Courier (Women's 5000m, pole vault, triple jump and hammer haven't been Olympic events long enough to include in this comparison.) Notes: (1) - Six of the fifteen medal positions over this time period are occupied by Jackie Joyner-Kersee and Heike Drechsler. Joyner-Kersee won gold in 1988 and bronze in 1992 and 1996. Drechsler had silver behind Joyner-Kersee at Seoul, then gold in 1992 and 2000. (2) - The succession of marks in the shot are especially disappointing. The winning distance at Atlanta and Sydney was the same; otherwise, each was less than in the previous Games and the Athens mark (19.59m) was the poorest since 1964. What's happening in this event? In summary: The chances of a better mark than for the event in the just-previous games: one in three--compared to one in two for the men. The chances of a gold medalist repeating in the next Games: one in twenty--compared to one in eleven for the men. The chances of a gold medalist winning any medal in the next Games and the chances of any medalist medaling again in the next Games: about one in six; in both instances very close to that for the men.
t-and-f: Olympic Shot Put Decline
Kurt Bray and Wilmar Kortleever have offered very different perspectives on the declines I noted for winning marks in the men's and women's Olympic shot competitions. I probably should take the blame for going beyond my original inquiry into medalling repetitions to assessing trends in winning marks. There obviously are too many possible variations in the conditions that affect performances on any single date to try to draw conclusions from differences across four olympiads. I still think it would be interesting to explore whether those trends in the shot put (and other events) can be observed in more general data, such as annual world ranking lists. I don't have the library of resources that would be needed for that sort of study. Perhaps someone else will undertake that inquiry. I can contribute this further information about Olympic winning marks, over the time period I investigated, in each of the weight events. It can be seen that the downward trend is not as consistent in other events as in the shot put and the women's discus. (The asterisks indicate an improvement over the winning mark in the just-previous Games.) Men ShotDiscus Hammer Javelin 198822.47 68.82 84.80 84.28 199221.70 65.12 82.54 89.66* 199621.62 69.40* 81.24 88.16 200021.29 69.30 80.02 90.17* 200421.16 69.89* 82.91* 86.50 Women ShotDiscus Hammer Javelin 198822.24 72.30 NC 74.68 199221.06 70.06 NC 68.34 199620.56 69.66 NC 67.94 200020.56 68.40 71.16 68.91* 200419.59 67.02 75.02* 71.53*
t-and-f: Repeat Olympic Medalists
In an idle moment, I found myself wondering, “What are the chances of an Olympic medal winner medaling in the next Olympic Games? That was my last idle moment for quite awhile. The next question that popped to mind was, “What are the chances of an Olympic winner repeating in the next games?” Then, “The chances of an Olympic winner medaling at all in the next Games?” Finally, “How often is the winning mark in an event better than that in the immediately previous Games?” A first operational problem was what period of time to cover in reviewing data. To look at the entire history of the modern Olympic Games was not only an intimidating task, there was the further problem of time gaps caused by wartime cancellations that negated comparisons for “the next Olympic Games.” A somewhat similar one was that of political boycotts, so my original target of looking at the most recent twenty years was defeated by there having been no USSR contestants at the Los Angeles Games of 1984, so those Soviets who medaled at Seoul in 1988 could not be repeat medalists. Eventually, I had to settle for truncating my data to the last five Olympic Games—Seoul, Barcelona, Atlanta, Sydney and Athens. For this project, I found the most convenient data source to be the lists at http://hickoksports.com/history/olmtandf.shtml> and history/olwtandf.shtml>. I hadn't seen this site before. If you haven't, you'll find there's lots of fun to be found there for any stats-nut. (You'll see what I mean in my comparison, below, of Oerter's and Lewis' four consecutive gold medals.) In the chart that follows, I've shown, for each event, the number of times during the most recent four Olympic Games that the winning mark was better than in the just-previous Games (BM), the number of times a winner repeated in the next Games (WW), the number of times a winner received any medal in the next Games (WM) and the number of times any medalist medaled in the next Games. Event BM WW WM MM (Notes) 100m 2/4 0/4 1/4 4/12 200m 2/4 0/4 0/4 2/12 400m 2/4 1/4 2/4 2/12 800m 2/4 0/4 0/4 1/12 1500m 2/4 0/4 1/4 3/12 5,000m 2/4 0/4 0/4 2/12 10,000m 2/4 1/4 1/4 2/12 Marathon 2/4 0/4 0/4 1/12 Steeplechase 2/4 0/4 0/4 0/12 110m Hurdles 2/4 0/4 1/4 3/12 400m Hurdles 2/4 0/4 0/4 0/12 High Jump 2/4 0/4 0/4 0/12 (1) Pole Vault 2/4 0/4 0/4 1/12 Long Jump 2/4 2/4 2/4 4/12 (2) Triple Jump 2/4 0/4 0/4 1/12 Shot 0/4! 0/4 0/4 2/12 (3) Discus 2/4 1/4 3/4 4/12 Hammer 1/4 0/4 0/4 0/12! (4) Javelin 2/4 2/4 2/4 8/12! (5) Decathlon 2/4 0/4 0/4 1/12 Notes: (1) - Not only no repeat winners in four Olympiads, no repeat winners in the history of the Games! (2) - Limiting the data to the last five Games credits Lewis with only two gold medal repetitions, when counting Los Angeles would have made it three. His four gold medals in this event are matched only by Al Oerter in the discus. Checking to see how those accomplishments otherwise compare, Oerter would have an advantage in the BM column: Carl's four winning efforts were 8.54m, 8.72m, 8.67m, 8.50m--only one improvement. Oerter improved with each succeeding win--56.36m, 59.18m, 61.00m, 64.78m. (See what I meant about the fun to be found in the hickoksports website?) (3) - A surprise, to me, to find no repeat winners in an event where I think of the top competitors (O'Brien, Nieder, Matson, etc.) as enjoying long careers. Even more surprising: since Seoul every win has been at a lesser distance than the one before. (4) - Not one successive medalist in four olympiads, although Igor Astapkovich took silver in 1992, then bronze in 2000. (5) - Greatest number of successive medalists in any event, although the total is boosted by Zelezny's silver at Seoul, followed by three successive golds. In summary: What are the chances of an Olympic Medalist medaling in the next Olympic Games? Overall, about one in six, although considerable variation from event to event. What are the chances of a gold medalist winning again in the next Games? About one in eleven. Of his winning any medal next time? About one in six. What are the chances that the winning mark in an event will be improved in the next Games? A nearly consistent one in two.
t-and-f: Re: Olympic Medal Repeats
Off-list, I've been asked whether I have similar data for the women's events. I didn't believe for a minute that I'd get away with doing just the table for the men, but thought I'd give you overnight to wonder about how they might compare. I'll post the women's chart tomorrow. Cheers, Roger
t-and-f: Athletics Australia
Just now wanted to check an Australian PV record and tried, for the first time, to access the Athletics Australia website (http://athletics.org.au/). I was surprised to find that can be done only if you have registered access and a password. I've never found that to be the case with any other national association website in track and field. Has anyone on this list encountered other examples?
t-and-f: Re: MPV National Indoor Bests
After I sent the list of 2006 indoor bests yesterday, two readers pointed out an error in my listing for Israel, where Alex Averbukh had a considerably better mark than the 5.31m I gave for Dennis Kholev. I then found three omissions, so I'll send the entire list again. Since I'm doing it over, I might as well do it differently, so this time I'll list the countries by rank. Men's National Indoor Bests 2006--By Rank United States 5.85i Jeff Hartwig 1 Vermillion, SD 18 Feb Germany 5.82i Tim Lobinger 1 Göteborg 8 Feb Israel 5.81i Alex Averbukh 1 Ghent 26 Feb Australia 5.80i Paul Burgess 1 Donetsk 12 Feb Sweden 5.80i Alhaji Jeng 2 Donetsk 12 Feb Russia 5.76i Dmitriy Kuptsov 1 Stockholm 2 Feb Bulgaria 5.76iNR Spas Bukhalov 1 Sofia 4 Feb Ukraine 5.76i Oleksandr Korchmyd 1 Karlsruhe 29 Jan France 5.75i Romain Mesnil 1 Epinal11 Feb Mexico 5.71iNR Giovanni Lanaro 1 Flagstaff 18 Feb Poland 5.70i Przemyslaw Czerwinski 3 Donetsk 12 Feb Belgium 5.70i Kevin Rans 6 Donetsk 12 Feb Netherlands 5.65i Laurens Looije 1 Ghent 18 Feb Japan 5.65i Daichi Sawano 9 Moskva11 Mar Italy 5.60i Giuseppe Gibilisco 6 Stuttgart 4 Feb Czech Rep 5.60i Stepán Janácek 8 Donetsk 12 Feb China 5.60iNR Liu Feiliang 1 Beijing 25 Feb Spain 5.51i Javier Gazol 1 Zaragoza 6 Jan Belarus 5.50i Igor Alekseev 1 Yekaterinburg 7 Jan St. Lucia 5.50i Dominic Johnson 2 Flagstaff 4 Feb Finland 5.50i Matti Mononen 6 Göteborg 8 Feb Gt Britain 5.47i Keith Higham 1 Akron, OH 4 Feb Switzerland 5.45i Olivier Frey 1 Magglingen11 Feb Kazakhstan 5.40i Grigoriy Yegorov 1 Monachil 21 Jan Luxembourg 5.40iNR Favian Mores 1 Innsbruck 21 Jan Uzbekistan 5.40i Leonid Andreyev 4 Mokva 3 Feb Slovenia 5.40i Jure Rovan 1 Praha 20 Feb Korea 5.38i Kim Yoo-Suk 1 Carbondale, IL 9 Dec Denmark 5.36i Piotr Buciarski 2 Seattle 11 Feb Brazil 5.25i Henrique Martins 8 Reno 28 Jan Canada 5.20i Jason Wurster 1 Windsor 14 Jan Hungary 5.20i Péter Skoumal 1 Budapest 28 Jan Greece 5.20i Nikolaos Sidihákis 1 Athína 4 Feb Portugal 5.17i Joao André 2 Espinho 19 Feb Estonia 5.05i Mikk Pahapill 1 Tallinn5 Feb So Africa 5.05i Cameron Nott 2 Notre Dame 3 Mar Senegal 5.04iNR Karim Sene 8 Niort 4 Feb Iran 5.00i Mohsen Rabbani 3 Pattaya 13 Nov Norway 5.00i Benjamin Jensen 1 Oslo 16 Jan Morocco 5.00iNR Soufiane Jarmani 1 Bompas 4 Feb
t-and-f: MPV National Indoor Bests--2006
MEN'S 2006 NATIONAL INDOOR POLE VAULT BESTS--5.00m or better Australia 5.80i Paul Burgess 1 Donetsk 12 Feb Belarus 5.50i Igor Alekseev 1 Yekaterinburg 7 Jan Belgium 5.70i Kevin Rans 6 Donetsk 12 Feb Brazil 5.25i Henrique Martins 8 Reno 28 Jan Bulgaria 5.76iNR Spas Bukhalov 1 Sofia 4 Feb Canada 5.20i Jason Wurster 1 Windsor 14 Jan China 5.60iNR Liu Feiliang 1 Beijing 25 Feb Czech Rep 5.60i Stepán Janácek 8 Donetsk 12 Feb Denmark 5.36i Piotr Buciarski 2 Seattle 11 Feb Estonia 5.05i Mikk Pahapill 1 Tallinn5 Feb Finland 5.50i Matti Mononen 6 Göteborg 8 Feb France 5.75i Romain Mesnil 1 Epinal11 Feb Germany 5.82i Tim Lobinger 1 Göteborg 8 Feb Gt Britain 5.47i Keith Higham 1 Akron, OH 4 Feb Greece 5.20i Nikolaos Sidihákis 1 Athína 4 Feb Hungary 5.20i Péter Skoumal 1 Budapest 28 Jan Iran 5.00i Mohsen Rabbani 3 Pattaya 13 Nov Israel 5.31i Dennis Kolev 7 Ghent 26 Feb Italy 5.60i Giuseppe Gibilisco 6 Stuttgart 4 Feb Japan 5.65i Daichi Sawano 9 Moskva11 Mar Korea 5.38i Kim Yoo-Suk 1 Carbondale 9 Dec Luxembourg 5.40iNR Favian Mores 1 Innsbruck 21 Jan Mexico 5.71iNR Giovanni Lanaro 1 Flagstaff 18 Feb Morocco 5.00iNR Soufiane Jarmani 1 Bompas 4 Feb Netherlands 5.65i Laurens Looije 1 Ghent 18 Feb Norway 5.00i Benjamin Jensen 1 Oslo 16 Jan Poland 5.70i Przemyslaw Czerwinski 3 Donetsk 12 Feb Portugal 5.17i Joao André 2 Espinho 19 Feb Russia 5.76i Dmitriy Kuptsov 1 Stockholm 2 Feb Senegal 5.04iNR Karim Sene 8 Niort 4 Feb Slovenia 5.40i Jure Rovan 1 Praha 20 Feb So Africa 5.05i Cameron Nott 2 Notre Dame 3 Mar Spain 5.51i Javier Gazol 1 Zaragoza 6 Jan St. Lucia 5.50i Dominic Johnson 2 Flagstaff 4 Feb Switzerland 5.45i Olivier Frey 1 Magglingen11 Feb Ukraine 5.76i Oleksandr Korchmyd 1 Karlsruhe 29 Jan United States 5.85i Jeff Hartwig 1 Vermillion18 Feb (Data from Mirko Jalava's World Deep List tilastopaja.com>)
t-and-f: Indoor/Outdoor Vault Opportunities
The relatively limited data I've just posted on 2006 indoor performances offer indirect support for one of my prejudices about vault stats: that indoor and outdoor marks should not be combined in a single list, especially at international levels. The most recent edition of Winfried Kramer's authoritative National Athletics Records shows outdoor vault records for 202 countries; 91 of those at or above 5.00m. Only 37 of these countries appear on Jalava's 2006 world indoor list, which I have summarized. My current list of women's outdoor records shows those for 120 countries. Only 46 are shown on the list of 2006 indoor bests I have collected. It seems clear to me that vaulters of many countries have little or no opportunity for year-round practice and competition with adequate facilities. To compare performances of vaulters who have this year-round advantage with those who don't is simply unfair. Even within a single country, these comparisons may be inappropriate. Vaulters in larger city high schools often have opportunity for winter practice in gymnasia with built-in planting boxes and portable foam pits. Vaulters in smaller schools usually do not. To put them into the same competition outdoors in the spring months clearly disadvantages the small-school athlete. I'm not suggesting that they should not compete together--only that the differences in opportunities should be appreciated; for example, in considerations for college scholarships. Roger
t-and-f: WPV National Indoor Bests--2006
2006 WOMEN'S NATIONAL INDOOR POLE VAULT BESTS Australia 3.85i Erin Boxall 3 St. College, PA 10 Feb Austria 4.05i Doris Auer 1 Wien 21 Jan Belarus 4.05iNR Yuliya Taratynova 1 Minsk 12 Feb Belgium 3.90i Karen Pollefeyt 1 Ghent 29 Jan Brazil 4.41iNR Fabiana Murer 1 Wupperthal27 Jan Bulgaria 4.00i Vera Chavdarova 3 Pattaya 10 Feb Canada 4.40iNR Dana Ellis 1 Flagstaff 21 Jan China 4.31i Jing Yang 1 Pattaya 14 Nov Cyprus 4.15i Anna Fitidou 4 Praha 20 Feb Czech Rep 4.50i Pavla Hamácková 1 Dresden 29 Jan Denmark 4.20i Anita Torring 1 Malmö 25 Feb Estonia 3.92iNR Kristina Ulitina 1 Tallinn 11 Feb Finland 4.21iNR Minna Nikkanen 1 Helsinki 4 Mar France 4.65iNR Vanessa Boslak 5 Moskva11 Mar Germany 4.50i Martina Strutz 1 Potsdam 10 Feb Gt Britain 4.25i Kate Dennisoo 1 Wien 31 Jan Greece 4.22i Afroditi Skafida 1 Athina11 Feb Guatemala 3.35iNR Peggy Ovalle 5 Lawrence, KS 28 Jan Hungary 4.50i Kriztina Molnár 1 Budapest 26 Feb Ireland 3.73i Erin Kinnear 1 Baton Rouge 17 Feb Israel 3.71i Zhanna Barrer 7 Blacksburg,VA 24 Feb Italy 4.20i Anna Bruno 1 Sempeter 14 Jan Japan 4.20i Ikuko Nisikori 1 Pattaya 10 Feb Kazakhstan 3.60i Darya Irgasheva 1 Karaganda 24 Jan Latvia 3.80i Alise Dimante 6 Malmö 22 Jan Lithuania 3.90iNR Edita Grigelionyte 1 Kaunas17 Mar Netherlands 4.00i Rianna Giliart 1 Ghent 18 Feb Norway 3.90iNR Cathrine Larsåsen 1 Stange18 Feb Philippines 3.85iNR Deborah Samson 2 Flagstaff 4 Feb Poland 4.80iNR Anna Rogowska 1 Liévin 5 Mar Portugal 4.32iNR Elisabete Tavares 1 Epinal11 Feb Romania 3.60i Andreea Imre 1 Bucuresti 18 Feb Russia 4.91iNR Yelena Isinbayeva 1 Donetsk 12 Feb San Marino 3.00iNR Eleonora Rossi Modena22 Jan Sao Tome 2.78iNR Nair VarelaEspino28 Jan Serbia/CG 4.10iNR Slavica Semenjuk 4 Athína22 Feb Slovakia 3.62i Dana Cilková 1 Bratislava 5 Feb Slovenia 4.16i Tina Sutej 4 Lingolsheim4 Mar Spain 4.50iNR Naroa Agirre 3=q Moskva10 Mar Sweden 4.40iNR Hanna-Mia Persson 1 Göteborg 8 Feb Sweden 4.40iNR Kirsten Belin 2 Göteborg 8 Feb Switzerland 4.30iNR Nadine Rohr 1 Magglingen26 Feb Thailand 3.40iNR Pasuta Wongweing Pattaya 10 Feb Tunisia 4.20iNR Syrine Balti 3 Clermont-Ferrad 26 Feb Ukraine 4.51iNR Nataliya Kushch 6 Donetsk12 Feb United States 4.68i Jenn Stuczynski 1 Ypsilanti 14 Jan Uruguay 3.90i Déborah Gyurcsek 2 Valencia 28 Jan Thanks to 2005 contributors: Nikitaridis, Fuchs, Jalava, Gillespy, Hubbeling, Dumas, Misiunas, Csiki
t-and-f: Women's National Indoor PV Records
Thanks to Carlos Baronet, Ottavio Castellini, György Csiki, Gerard Dumas, Becca Gillespy, Mirko Jalava, Børre Lilloe, Stepas Misiunas, Bob Ramsak and Michel Saint-Raymond for their contributions to this list. Thanks, also, to those others who contributed and whom I'm going to be embarrassed to discover I've failed to credit. As always, corrections and additions to the list will be appreciated. RR WOMEN'S NATIONAL INDOOR POLE VAULT RECORDS, a/o March 20, 2006 Algeria 2.50i Linda Chellakh 1995-01-22Grenoble Andorra 2.65i Sara Guerra Vilana2005-02-27 1 Vilafranca Argentina 4.25i Alejandra Garcia 2004-10-06 1 Burzaco Australia 4.55i Emma George 1998-03-26 1 Adelaide Austria 4.44i Doris Auer2001-03-18 2 Glasgow Belarus 4.05i Yuliya Taratynova 2006-02-12 1 Minsk Belgium 4.10i Irena Dufour 2003-02-16 1 Gent Brazil 4.14i Fabiana Murer 2006-01-27 1 Wupperthal Bulgaria4.50i Tania Stefanova 2005-02-16 1 Athína Canada 4.40i Dana Ellis 2006-01-21 1 Flagstaff Chile 4.10i Carolina Torres 2003-03-02 2 Magglingen China 4.45i Shuying Gao 2002-03-10 2 Sindelfingen 4.45i Zhao Yingying 2005-02-24 3 Madrid Colombia 3.91i Milena Agudelo 2004-10-06 3 Santa Fe, ARG Croatia 4.00i Ivona Jerkovic2005-02-19 1 Zagreb Cyprus 4.40i Anna Fitadou 2005-01-29 1 Peania Czech Republic 4.57i Pavla Hamácková 2003-02-08 1 Potsdam Denmark 4.23i Marie Rasmussen 2002-02-17 1 Malmö Egypt 3.64i Sonya Ahmed 2001-02-24 2 Tulsa El Salvador 3.66i Michelle Rivera 2002-02-23 3h Los Angeles Estonia 3.92i Kristina Ultina 2006-02-11 1 Tallinn Finland 4.21i Minna Nikkanen 2006-03-04 1 Helsinki France 4.65i Vanessa Boslak2006-03-11 5 Moskva Georgia 2.70i Ina Narijniak 1993-02-22Tsilibisi Germany 4.68i Annika Becker 2004-02-04 2 Dortmund Great Britain 4.44i Janine Whitlock 2002-02-17 4 Birmingham Greece 4.37i Georgia Tsiliggiri2001-02-23 1 Pireaus 4.37i Katerina Stefanídi 2005-02-20 1 Athíni Guam2.90i Juliana Jensen2001-02-03Pocatello Guatemala 3.35i Peggy Ovalle 2006-01-28 5 Lawrence, KS Guinea-Bissau 2.28i Placida Mirolho 2003-02-15Espinho Hungary 4.51i Zsuzsanna Szabó 1999-02-04 1 Budapest Iceland 4.51i Thórey Elisdóttir 2001-03-10 1 Fayetteville Indonesia 3.82i Desy Margawati 2001-02-03Tsaotun Ireland 3.82i Bridget Pearson 2000-02-19 5 Los Angeles Israel 3.80i Olga Dogadko 2003-02-12 1 Moskva 3.80i Zhanna Barrer 2003-02-23 3 Moskva Italy 4.30i Francesca Dolcini 2002-02-01 2 Zweibrücken Jamaica 3.36i Sandé Swaby 2001-02-23Lincoln Japan 4.30i Masumi Ono2002-03-03 1 Tianjin Jersey 2.50i Heather Le Cocq 1990-01-27 1 Stoke Kazakhstan 3.90i Yelena Reznik 2001-02-18 4 Tianjin Korea 3.22i Choi Yun-Hee 2001-03-20Toyota Latvia 3.92i Rita Obizajeva2004-02-22 1 Kaunas Lithuania 3.86i Edita Grigelionyte 2006-01-11 1 Kaunas Luxembourg 3.60i Stephanie Viellevoye 2005-01-31 4 Luxembourg Malaysia4.00i Roslinda Samsu 2004-02-07 2 Tehran Mali 2.82i Aminata Sanako 1996-01-13Cergy-la-Tour Mexico 3.90i Alejandra Meza 2003-01-18 1 Houston Morocco 3.17i Zakia El Hassouni 1996-01-13Cergy-la-Tour Netherlands 4.45i Monique de Wilt 2003-02-15 1 Gent New Zealand 4.30i Jenni Dryburgh 2002-06-29 1 Auckland Norway 3.90i Cathrine Larsåsen 2006-02-18 1 Stange Peru 2.90i Maria Ferrand 2004-02-14Houston Philippines 3.85i Deborah Samson 2006-02-04 2 Flagstaff Poland 4.80i Anna Rogowska 2006-03-05 1 Lievín Portugal4.32i Elisabete Tavares 2006-02-11 1 Epinal Puerto Rico 4.16i Denisse Orengo2004-04-03 1 San German Romania 4.25i Gabriella Mihalcea 1999-02-13 1 Pireaus Russia 4.91i Yelena Isinbayeva 2006-02-12 1 Donetsk San Marino 3.00i Eleonora Rossi 2006-01-22Modena Sao Tome 2.78i Nair Varela 2006-01-28Espino Serbia/CG 4.10i Slavica Semenjuk 2006-02-22 4 Athína Slovakia4.05i Slavomira Slúková 2005-02-19 1 Bratislava Slovenia4.20i Teja Melink 2005-01-28 1 Budapest South Africa4.41i Elmarie Gerryts 2000-02-20 1 Birmingham Spain 4.50i Naroa Agirre 2006-03-10 3q Moskva Sweden 4.40i Hanna-Mia Persson 2006-02-08 1 Göteborg 4.40i Kirsten Belin 2006-02-08 1 Göteborg Switzerland 4.30i Nadine Rohr 2006-02-26 1 Magglingen Taiwan 3.96i Chang Ko-Hsin 2004-02-20 1 Tsaotun Thailand 3.40i Pasuta Wongwieng 2005-11-14 2= Bangkok 3.40i Sunisa
t-and-f: WIC Entry Lists?
The IAAF website for the World Indoor Championships doesn't seem to have a link to entry lists. (Can it really be that, two days before the meet is to begin, the competition managers don't know who or how many will be participating?) Does anyone know of an alternate site for the entry lists?
Re: t-and-f: Come and see my photos
My point, too, Tom. Also looks like a real invitation for downloading a virus. On Friday, February 24, 2006, at 03:32 PM, Tom Derderian wrote: Nope, list killer. Who is going to give out their e-mail for unknown photos? On Feb 24, 2006, at 4:53 PM, Jorma Kurry wrote: this ought to get the list going. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey there, Check out my photos.. ;-) http://shareinternetfiles.com/join-me.php?n=David
t-and-f: National Depth--Multi-events
The charts summarize the number of athletes each country placed in the world top-100 outdoor rankings for 2005 (plus ties) and the highest-ranked of these. Since one or two placings may represent only exceptional individuals, rather than national program strength, I've listed only countries with three or more athletes in the top 100 (plus ties). The data base drawn upon is the world deep list from Mirko Jalava's web site http://www.tilastopaja.net>. MEN'S DECATHLON 2005 Country Top 100 Highest United States 19 1 France 9 10 Germany 8 6 Russia 7 5 Finland 6 16 Estonia 5 3 Netherlands 4 12 China 3 7 Spain 3 34 Norway 3 29 34 countries represented 100th = 7489 WOMEN'S HEPTATHLON 2005 Country Top 100 Highest Russia 15 33 Germany 12 14 United States 10 4 China 6 19 France 5 1 Poland 5 26 Ukraine 5 7 Finland 4 50 Great Britain 4 3 Netherlands 4 8 Belarus 3 18 Estonia 3 34 Greece 3 41 30 countries represented 100th = 5652 (Another unusual distribution, with Russia leading the number in the top 100, but no athlete in the top 30.)
t-and-f: National Depth--Javelin
The charts summarize the number of athletes each country placed in the world top-100 outdoor rankings for 2005 (plus ties) and the highest-ranked of these. Since one or two placings may represent only exceptional individuals, rather than national program strength, I've listed only countries with three or more athletes in the top 100 (plus ties). The data base drawn upon is the world deep list from Mirko Jalava's web site http://www.tilastopaja.net>. MEN'S JAVELIN THROW 2005 Country Top 100 Highest Finland 12 1 Germany 9 6 Cuba 6 10 Latvia 6 16 Poland 5 56 Russia 5 2 Sweden 5 32 United States 5 4 China 4 22 Greece 4 37 South Korea 4 51 Estonia 3 5 France 3 48 35 countries represented 100th = 76.12m = 249'8 WOMEN'S JAVELIN THROW 2005 Country Top 100 Highest Germany 12 2 China 10 13 Russia 6 21 Greece 5 9 Ukraine 5 22 Cuba 4 1 Finland 4 10 United States 4 31 France 3 49 Italy 3 8 Jamaica 3 18 South Korea 3 76 Latvia 3 27 Lithuania 3 11 South Africa 3 30 36 countries represented 100th= 54.91m = 180'1 36 countries represented
t-and-f: National Depth--Hammer
The charts summarize the number of athletes each country placed in the world top-100 outdoor rankings for 2005 (plus ties) and the highest-ranked of these. Since one or two placings may represent only exceptional individuals, rather than national program strength, I've listed only countries with three or more athletes in the top 100 (plus ties). The data base drawn upon is the world deep list from Mirko Jalava's web site http://www.tilastopaja.net>. MEN'S HAMMER THROW 2005 Country Top 100 Highest Belarus 12 1 Russia 10 6 Germany 7 10 Ukraine 7 4 United States 6 25 France 5 33 Cuba 4 45 Czech Republic 4 16 Italy 4 38 Finland 3 12 Hungary 3 9 Poland 3 17 35 countries represented 100th = 70.72m = 232' WOMEN'S HAMMER THROW 2005 Country Top 100 Highest United States 12 7 China 9 9 Germany 8 11 Russia 8 1 Belarus 7 2 Ukraine 6 21 France 4 5 Hungary 4 34 Italy 4 8 Australia 3 40 Cuba 3 4 Great Britain 3 46 Poland 3 6 Portugal 3 60 Romania 3 14 28 countries represented 100th = 63.30m = 207'8 (Although the total number of countries represented in the women's event isn't unusual, it seems to me that having 15 countries with three or more athletes ranked in the top ten is more than I can remember before. I haven't kept this stat, but it seems to suggest good coaching and/or good training partners may be especially effective in the women's hammer.)
t-and-f: National Depth--Walks
The charts summarize the number of athletes each country placed in the world top-100 outdoor rankings for 2005 (plus ties) and the highest-ranked of these. Since one or two placings may represent only exceptional individuals, rather than national program strength, I've listed only countries with three or more athletes in the top 100 (plus ties). The data base drawn upon is the world deep list from Mirko Jalava's web site http://www.tilastopaja.net>. MEN'S 50K Racewalk 2005 Country Top 100 Highest China 41 1 Spain 8 11 Russia 7 5 Mexico 5 28 Italy 4 12 Australia 3 25 France 3 19 Japan 3 31 Poland 3 30 Ukraine 3 54 25 countries represented 100th = 4:05:01 WOMEN'S 10K Racewalk 2005 Country Top 100 Highest Russia 25 5 Belarus 11 1 Spain 11 8 Ukraine 8 52 Australia 6 15 Japan 4 28 Lithuania 3 20 Romania 3 10 28 countries represented 100th = 43:54
Re: t-and-f: National Depth--Steeplechase
On Sunday, January 29, 2006, at 10:59 AM, Dan Kaplan wrote: This is a pretty major dropoff in Kenyan dominance, no? Didn't they previously have more like 40-50 represented in the top-100? Dan --- Roger Ruth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MEN'S STEEPLECHASE 2005 Country Top 100Highest Kenya23 2 I would have guessed he was right, maybe just because it seems like there are always lots of those Kenya shirts at the front in any international steeple race, but in terms of total number in the top 100, they seem to have been remarkably consistent over the recent years. I found these totals and top rankings in my lists since 1998: 199820 (1) 199922 (1) 200018 (1) 200119 (2) 200220 (2) 200319 (2) 200422 (2) 200523 (2)
t-and-f: Kenyan Dominance
Earlier today, Dan wrote to ask whether Kenya's 22 steeplechasers in the world top 100 represented a considerable drop-off. When I checked, that was not the case. Dan then wrote: Interesting. Was it the 5k/10 list that they filled with greater numbers, or something altogether different I'm remembering? I thought the comparison might have been with Kenya performance in the steeple as compared with the marathon, where they remain strong. When I posted the marathon summary, I commented on Kenya's 51 representatives, (That's the first time since I've been charting national depth that one country has been represented by more than half of the top 100 athletes in any event. Previous high was Kenya's 47 in the 2004 men's marathon.) As far as the 5K/10K are concerned, I only got as far as checking this year's 5K, where I'd already posted 45 Kenyans in the top 100, and the 10K, where they have 39 in the top 100 and a highest rank of #4. (I also found, to my embarrassment, that Mirko has lists for both the 10,000 meters and the 10K, with the latter being the list for the road race. Fortunately, I sent the wrong info just to Dan, before I noticed the difference. In the much shorter list for the road race, Kenya has 62 of the top 100 and 17 of the top 20!) In all, I don't see any dramatic fall-off for Kenya in any of the distance events. Maybe it might be true for the steeple if I looked back farther than 1998. Anybody have the answer, without doing the work?
t-and-f: National Depth--Triple Jump
The charts summarize the number of athletes each country placed in the world top-100 outdoor rankings for 2005 (plus ties) and the highest-ranked of these. Since one or two placings may represent only exceptional individuals, rather than national program strength, I've listed only countries with three or more athletes in the top 100 (plus ties). The data base drawn upon is the world deep list from Mirko Jalava's web site http://www.tilastopaja.net>. MEN'S TRIPLE JUMP 2005 Country Top 101 Highest United States 11 4 Russia 10 9 Cuba 9 5 China 7 17 France 7 7 Brazil 5 2 Australia 4 56 Great Britain 4 3 Italy 4 43 Germany 3 8 Greece 3 11 Morocco 3 31 38 countries represented 100th = 16.38m = 53'8 3/4 WOMEN'S TRIPLE JUMP 2005 Country Top 101 Highest Russia 12 1 China 11 11 United States 7 36 Ukraine 6 34 Cuba 5 6 Poland 5 57 Romania 4 20 Brazil 4 50 France 4 40 Greece 4 4 Italy 4 8 33 countries represented 100th = 13.62m = 44'8
t-and-f: National Depth--800 Meters
The charts summarize the number of athletes each country placed in the world top-100 outdoor rankings for 2005 (plus ties) and the highest-ranked of these. Since one or two placings may represent only exceptional individuals, rather than national program strength, I've listed only countries with three or more athletes in the top 100 (plus ties). The data base drawn upon is the world deep list from Mirko Jalava's web site http://www.tilastopaja.net>. MEN'S 800 METERS 2005 Country Top 100 Highest Kenya 23 1 United States 10 15 South Africa 6 3 Algeria 5 22 Italy 5 55 Brazil 4 34 Spain 4 5 France 4 20 Bahrain 3 2 Canada 3 9 Morocco 3 6 Qatar 3 8 36 countries represented 100th = 1:46.93 WOMEN'S 800 METERS 2005 Country Top 100 Highest Russia 23 1 United States 7 8 France 6 17 Great Britain 5 57 Canada 4 29 Jamaica 3 12 Kenya 3 6 Morocco 3 10 Romania 3 22 Ukraine 3 70 39 countries represented 100th = 2:02.55
t-and-f: National Depth--20K Racewalk
The charts summarize the number of athletes each country placed in the world top-100 outdoor rankings for 2005 (plus ties) and the highest-ranked of these. Since one or two placings may represent only exceptional individuals, rather than national program strength, I've listed only countries with three or more athletes in the top 100 (plus ties). The data base drawn upon is the world deep list from Mirko Jalava's web site http://www.tilastopaja.net>. MEN'S 20K RACEWALK 2005 Country Top 100 Highest China 35 2 Russia 17 5 Mexico 8 17 Poland 7 44 Belarus 5 43 Spain 3 3 South Korea 3 79 22 countries represented 100th = 1:22:48 WOMEN'S 20K RACEWALK 2005 Country Top 100 Highest China 35 4 Russia 21 1 Belarus 8 3 Spain 4 19 Portugal 4 17 Romania 4 35 Italy 3 26 Japan 3 61 21 countries represented 100th = 1:34:11
t-and-f: National Depth 400 Meters
The charts summarize the number of athletes each country placed in the world top-100 outdoor rankings for 2005 (plus ties) and the highest-ranked of these. Since one or two placings may represent only exceptional individuals, rather than national program strength, I've listed only countries with three or more athletes in the top 100 (plus ties). The data base drawn upon is the world deep list from Mirko Jalava's web site http://www.tilastopaja.net>. MEN'S 400 Meters 2005 Country Top 100 Highest United States 29 1 Jamaica 9 10 Australia 5 35 Bahamas 4 5 Great Britain 4 7 Poland 4 59 South Africa 4 41 Cuba 3 30 Japan 3 45 Trinidad Tobago 3 25 36 countries represented 100th = 45.98 WOMEN'S 400 Meters 2005 Country Top 100 Highest United States 21 1 Russia 18 3 Jamaica 10 21 Great Britain 5 14 Belarus 4 22 Brazil 4 31 Poland 4 33 Cuba 3 52 Ukraine 3 43 31 countries represented 100th = 52.32
t-and-f: National Depth--Steeplechase
The charts summarize the number of athletes each country placed in the world top-100 outdoor rankings for 2005 (plus ties) and the highest-ranked of these. Since one or two placings may represent only exceptional individuals, rather than national program strength, I've listed only countries with three or more athletes in the top 100 (plus ties). The data base drawn upon is the world deep list from Mirko Jalava's web site http://www.tilastopaja.net>. MEN'S STEEPLECHASE 2005 Country Top 100 Highest Kenya 23 2 United States 9 19 France 7 11 Poland 6 31 Spain 5 21 Morocco 5 4 Qatar 4 1 Russia 4 37 Great Britain 3 73 Germany 3 44 South Africa 3 40 Sweden 3 24 29 countries represented 100th = 8:33.70 WOMEN'S STEEPLECHASE 2005 Country Top 100 Highest United States 17 14 Kenya 13 4 Russia 8 2 Poland 5 3 Spain 4 46 Great Britain 4 30 Portugal 4 13 Brazil 3 56 France 3 16 Romania 3 11 36 countries represented 100th = 10:12.35
