Re: Taglibs
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Aaron Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is Jakarta Taglibs dead? Last news even on the main page was 2005. Should I look at using other taglib repositories or is it safe to continue incorporating these into production? Dunno about dead, can't speak for any of the developers, but... Specifically I am considering using Mailer2 initially, but don't want to do that if it and/or the whole taglib project has been abandoned. ..I've used Mailer2 in production. I don't recall any problems with it. FWIW, -- Hassan Schroeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Taglibs
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Andrés M. Luna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I looking for URL to download Mailer2. Please can send me the URL for download Taglib Mailer 2. mmm -- looking just now, it no longer seems to be available, even as source. That's a bummer. You should try to contact a jakarta maintainer, I suppose, and see if they can fix that. Alternatively, use the Mailer taglib, which /is/ still available. HTH, -- Hassan Schroeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Taglibs
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Hassan Schroeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Andrés M. Luna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I looking for URL to download Mailer2. Please can send me the URL for download Taglib Mailer 2. mmm -- looking just now, it no longer seems to be available, even as source. That's a bummer. This should be the Subversion location: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jakarta/taglibs/deprecated-sandbox/mailer2/ Haven't recalled where to find a build yet... You should try to contact a jakarta maintainer, I suppose, and see if they can fix that. Alternatively, use the Mailer taglib, which /is/ still available. HTH, -- Hassan Schroeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Kris Schneider mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] directThought http://www.directThought.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Taglibs
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Kris Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mmm -- looking just now, it no longer seems to be available, even as source. That's a bummer. This should be the Subversion location: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jakarta/taglibs/deprecated-sandbox/mailer2/ Ah, OK. Too bad the links on the jakarta.apache.org site are a total 404-fest. Does anyone know who is (was!) maintaining this? I'd volunteer some time to help clean this up. -- Hassan Schroeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Taglibs
On 6/29/08, Aaron Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is Jakarta Taglibs dead? Last news even on the main page was 2005. Should I look at using other taglib repositories or is it safe to continue incorporating these into production? snip/ Jakarta Taglibs has seen very little new development since 2006. IMO, whether you should use any of these depends on whether a *released* version of any of these tag libraries satisfies your needs as-is. If you find that you are needing more, or would like improvements / features to be put in place, you should first check the developer list to see if there is any interest in doing so. Specifically I am considering using Mailer2 initially, but don't want to do that if it and/or the whole taglib project has been abandoned. snap/ Mailer2 is currently listed as a deprecated sandbox library ( see LHS menu on home page [1] ) -- there is no current development with it at all AFAIK. The Jakarta Taglibs project has slowed down considerably, though in terms of interest: * Few relatively recent fixes have been made to JSTL 1.2 (by Hen) * I'm still interested maintaining in the RDC taglib (addressing issues as they come) Finally, FWIW, since this is an all-volunteer effort, the development tempo can change if enough people still want to develop tag libraries here. In the past couple of years, we haven't seen much of that. For those interested, it might be best to: * Ping the dev list to see how much interest there is for the taglib in question * Post patches -- fixes, improvements -- if there is interest (you can post them otherwise too, but having a realistic chance of those being applied might mean something) -Rahul [1] http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs/ Thanks, Aaron - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Taglibs
On 6/30/08, Hassan Schroeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Kris Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mmm -- looking just now, it no longer seems to be available, even as source. That's a bummer. This should be the Subversion location: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jakarta/taglibs/deprecated-sandbox/mailer2/ Ah, OK. Too bad the links on the jakarta.apache.org site are a total 404-fest. snip/ Indeed. Does anyone know who is (was!) maintaining this? snap/ Its all the Jakarta Taglibs committers -- very few are currently around (or active). I think I added the last news item in '05, but I do see some edits as late as July '07 (when the site was last deployed). I'd volunteer some time to help clean this up. snip/ That'd be great. The site sources are here: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jakarta/taglibs/proper/src/trunk/doc/ -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Taglibs
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Rahul Akolkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd volunteer some time to help clean this up. That'd be great. The site sources are here: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jakarta/taglibs/proper/src/trunk/doc/ OK, how do I get commit rights, or does this just mean submitting patches to the dev list, or ? I've contributed to the Tomcat docs, but that was a how-to I wrote from scratch and sent to Mark Thomas, so I haven't been on that side of the curtain :-) And feel free to contact me off-list if you prefer. H* -- Hassan Schroeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Taglibs
On 6/30/08, Hassan Schroeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Rahul Akolkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd volunteer some time to help clean this up. That'd be great. The site sources are here: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jakarta/taglibs/proper/src/trunk/doc/ OK, how do I get commit rights, snip/ You are probably familiar with this, but see: (bottom of the page has couple of pointers) http://www.apache.org/foundation/getinvolved.html or does this just mean submitting patches to the dev list, or ? snap/ Yup, if you're interested (you can leave the component unmarked or choose Unknown Taglib for site): http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs/bugs.html I've contributed to the Tomcat docs, but that was a how-to I wrote from scratch and sent to Mark Thomas, so I haven't been on that side of the curtain :-) snip/ Its not at all ;-) And feel free to contact me off-list if you prefer. snap/ Thank you, but I have nothing to say here beyond what I say on these lists :-) Plus, the list allows others to get involved in the conversation (and/or tasks!) if they want to. -Rahul H* -- Hassan Schroeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Taglibs
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Rahul Akolkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.apache.org/foundation/getinvolved.html at first glance it seemed more project- than site-centric, but I'll revisit and figure it out. :-) Yup, if you're interested (you can leave the component unmarked or choose Unknown Taglib for site): http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs/bugs.html cool, thanks. Documentation and broken links aside, it'd be nice if someone could get the automatic build stuff going again, or at least make sure there was a most-recent-build to be found where the link currently points... H* -- Hassan Schroeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Taglibs
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Rahul Akolkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/29/08, Aaron Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Specifically I am considering using Mailer2 initially, but don't want to do that if it and/or the whole taglib project has been abandoned. snap/ Mailer2 is currently listed as a deprecated sandbox library ( see LHS menu on home page [1] ) -- there is no current development with it at all AFAIK. The download that people probably depend on was a nightly build that has since been deleted. The Jakarta Taglibs project has slowed down considerably, though in terms of interest: * Few relatively recent fixes have been made to JSTL 1.2 (by Hen) JSTL 1.1. Few = 30 resolved items. 12 or so patches applied. Robert Goff just offered up JSTL 1.2 as a patch, and once he's able to send in a software grant then we can be looking at releasing both the JSTL 1.1.3 release and a JSTL 1.2.0 release. * I'm still interested maintaining in the RDC taglib (addressing issues as they come) I'm somewhat interested in merging various bits into an Unstandard taglib, but wasn't sure if there was enough user interest in taglibs nowadays. Finally, FWIW, since this is an all-volunteer effort, the development tempo can change if enough people still want to develop tag libraries here. In the past couple of years, we haven't seen much of that. For those interested, it might be best to: * Ping the dev list to see how much interest there is for the taglib in question * Post patches -- fixes, improvements -- if there is interest (you can post them otherwise too, but having a realistic chance of those being applied might mean something) Yep. If there are 404s, point them out and we'll fix them. Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mailer2 Taglib
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 5:52 AM, Aaron Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Couple issues re: the mailer2 taglib. 1) Any idea when it might become supported? Rahul's pointed this out in the other thread, but for the archives I'll note that it's deprecated and we don't advise using this. In this case I think it was because no one active thought sending emails from jsp was a good idea (which given I'm all for SQL in prototype JSP is quite impressive :) ). 2) Also, the link on this taglib on it's main page isn't working. I've updated the page to point out that you have to build it from source and linked to SVN. Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
