Re: [OSM-talk] Who Did It?
On 04/10/2012 11:05, Philip Barnes wrote: You mean American college girls use IRC? Are you mixing it up with tw@ter mailto:tw@ter? No, I'm saying members of the #osmf love a bit of lippy :-) You're correct,of course, stupid me. Although IRC is irritating enough with multilateral decisions being made in a unilateral timezone. Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Who Did It?
On 03/10/2012 21:17, Ilya Zverev wrote: Since today, after a discussion on #osm, only these potlatch edits that modify or delete relations are marked as needing attention. Great. Not sure how you have conversations on #osm when it's interspersed with American college girls telling us about their new shade of nail varnish. I assume it has a similar meaning to OMG. #confused. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
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You mean American college girls use IRC? Are you mixing it up with tw@ter? -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 04/10/2012 10:59 Dave F. wrote: On 03/10/2012 21:17, Ilya Zverev wrote: Since today, after a discussion on #osm, only these potlatch edits that modify or delete relations are marked as needing attention. Great. Not sure how you have conversations on #osm when it's interspersed with American college girls telling us about their new shade of nail varnish. I assume it has a similar meaning to OMG. #confused. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Who Did It?
On 02/10/2012 07:02, Ilya Zverev wrote: Willi wrote: Is it possible to deselect a userid? When surveying an area I would prefer to see just the changes others made. I know mine. You can write into user filter '!Willi' (without quotes). There is no such button in the UI at the moment. This looks like a great resource I'm using it regularly but I'm not sure edits done in Potlatch should automatically be considered suspicious, and classifying an edit 'red' because six nodes one way were removed when 134/3 were added seems a bit harsh. Cheers Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Who Did It?
On Wednesday, October 3, 2012, Dave F. wrote: This looks like a great resource I'm using it regularly but I'm not sure edits done in Potlatch should automatically be considered suspicious, and classifying an edit 'red' because six nodes one way were removed when 134/3 were added seems a bit harsh. I'm OK with this. Potlatch isn't exactly precise, and it's difficult, even if you know what you're doing, to get what you want out of Potlatch. It's like performing surgery with a baseball bat and chainsaw. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
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On 03/10/2012 14:57, Paul Johnson wrote: I'm OK with this. Potlatch isn't exactly precise, and it's difficult, even if you know what you're doing, to get what you want out of Potlatch. It's like performing surgery with a baseball bat and chainsaw. Even if that were true, it doesn't mean other editors are any better. The determining factor for the accuracy of all the data is the person doing the editing - Garbage in, garbage out. Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Who Did It?
Dave F. wrote: I'm not sure edits done in Potlatch should automatically be considered suspicious, and classifying an edit 'red' because six nodes one way were removed when 134/3 were added seems a bit harsh. Since today, after a discussion on #osm, only these potlatch edits that modify or delete relations are marked as needing attention. IZ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Who Did It?
On Tuesday, October 02, 2012 1:02 PM Ilya Zverev [mailto:zve...@textual.ru] wrote You can write into user filter '!Willi' (without quotes). That's excellent. I didn't think that it's that easy. Now I can watch easily even a larger area for deletions. Willi ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Who Did It?
This is really great.
In case someone even less capable with java script bookmarklets than me is
interested:
I created a bookmarklet (based on previous
similarhttp://www.openstreetmap.org/user/jaakkoh/diary)
that makes it a breeze to access a given user's WHODIDIT view (for a
predefined area and time range). Example for Hispanola at z8 and 31 days:
- name: WHODIDIT Hispanola by user last 31 days from userpage:
OpenStreetMap Changeset Analyzer
- URL:
javascript:a=document.location.href.split('/');if(a[2]+a[3]=='www.openstreetmap.orguser'){document.location.href='
http://zverik.osm.rambler.ru/whodidit/?zoom=8lat=18.83lon=-71.58layers=BTTuser='+a[4]+'age=31'}else{alert('Thisis
not a valid OSM user page.') }
Now, as I'm barely capable of modifying this originally borrowed code
myself I'd be very keen to know if it's possible to tweak this code so that
it would open the WHODIDIT page in a new tab in stead of the same - anyone?
All in all, the tool/service makes following edits in a given area or by
certain user(s) a _significantly_ easier. Big thanks to IZ for this!
Cheers,
-Jaakko
--
jaa...@helleranta.com * Skype: jhelleranta * Mobile: +509-37-269154 *
http://go.hel.cc/about.me
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[OSM-talk] Who Did It?
Dave F. wrote: I'm sorry, the database was turned off for an hour, because there was a major problem with utf8 encoding, and I had to reupload the sql dump. Now it's back online, updating normally. Thanks. What's the significance of the [!] that is displayed in some of the RSS feed listings? It marks a changeset than probably needs attention. The same as red date colour in the front-end. Such changesets are mostly potlatch edits involving ways and relations, mass deletions or other significant edits. IZ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
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Ilya Zverev wrote: It marks a changeset than probably needs attention. The same as red date colour in the front-end. Such changesets are mostly potlatch edits involving ways and relations, mass deletions or other significant edits. Hmm. Apparently most of my changesets need attention (even this one - http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/13188384 ) :-) Seriously though, thanks! I suspect that this is going to be incredibly useful in the months and years to come, especially because it's node-based, and nicely complements what else is out there. Cheers, Andy. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
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Great tool. Thanks a lot. Used it already with success. Is it possible to deselect a userid? When surveying an area I would prefer to see just the changes others made. I know mine. Willi ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Who Did It?
Willi wrote: Is it possible to deselect a userid? When surveying an area I would prefer to see just the changes others made. I know mine. You can write into user filter '!Willi' (without quotes). There is no such button in the UI at the moment. IZ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Who Did It?
Hi! For a long time now, there has been no tool to properly monitor an area. Essentially the only way of doing it is to filter changeset history by bbox (thanks to Pavel for his RSS filter btw). OWL has been turned off, ITO-like visualizations are pretty but unuseful. The simple question who has deleted my road? turned out to be very hard to answer. But there has been a simple solution, that I'm amazed no one has come to before. To cut long story short, I present to you the service to answer the frequently asked question: WHO DID IT? http://zverik.osm.rambler.ru/whodidit/ It basically downloads hourly replication diffs and stores information on affected 0.01-degree tiles, along with extra information, like user name or a number of modified objects. Then it is possible to do some analysis of that data, to rid users of doing it themselves: which changesets should they pay most attention to, where was anything deleted, and which tiles have only got new data. Obviously this service relies only on nodes: other objects do not have spatial information on them in diffs; querying the server every time is expensive, and keeping minutely planet database is no less costly. I've preloaded WHODIDIT with the data since 1st of July, and it's only one gigabyte per three months of changes (half of which are indices). Yes, you can see what redaction bot has touched. Also it allows to make RSS feed similar to OWL's. I think everything is pretty straightforward, and there is an instruction picture: http://zverik.osm.rambler.ru/whodidit/wdi_guide.gif The source is licensed WTFPL, and it should be very easy to set up, for example, a mirror or a regional version of this service. It's entirely in Perl/PHP/MySQL. Check it at https://github.com/Zverik/whodidit Oh, and if you see no tiles, try zooming in, levels 12-13 should have everything. I've not yet figured how to pass error messages to the front-end, so there is no helpful message. Thanks, IZ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Who Did It?
On 29/09/2012 09:24, Ilya Zverev wrote: Hi! For a long time now, there has been no tool to properly monitor an area. Is the RSS feed working? When I paste the feed url into the location bar (Firefox 15) it just reverts back to the previous page. Cheers Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Who Did It?
Dave F. wrote: For a long time now, there has been no tool to properly monitor an area. Is the RSS feed working? When I paste the feed url into the location bar (Firefox 15) it just reverts back to the previous page. It's working nicely for me ... I can even see where I used potlatch or JOSM :) -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
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Am 29.09.2012 10:24, schrieb Ilya Zverev: WHO DID IT? nice! Thanks for inventing. Best regards, Michael. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Who Did It?
Dave F.: Is the RSS feed working? When I paste the feed url into the location bar (Firefox 15) it just reverts back to the previous page. I'm sorry, the database was turned off for an hour, because there was a major problem with utf8 encoding, and I had to reupload the sql dump. Now it's back online, updating normally. IZ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
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Ilya Zverev wrote: I'm sorry, the database was turned off for an hour, because there was a major problem with utf8 encoding, and I had to reupload the sql dump. Now it's back online, updating normally. I've been having a skeet at the code and it does irritate me that people still use MySQL for what I class 'heavy' data management. With Firebird I have a background backup happening on all the customer sites with an rsync to a backup machine. Your PHP code has a nice base for a job I need to get done - in PHP - so the first thing is to convert the database bit :) Thanks for the kick start! -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Who Did It?
On 29/09/2012 12:26, Ilya Zverev wrote: I'm sorry, the database was turned off for an hour, because there was a major problem with utf8 encoding, and I had to reupload the sql dump. Now it's back online, updating normally. Thanks. What's the significance of the [!] that is displayed in some of the RSS feed listings? Cheers Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Who Did It?
S , 2012-09-29 12:24 +0400, Ilya Zverev rakstīja: Hi! For a long time now, there has been no tool to properly monitor an area. Essentially the only way of doing it is to filter changeset history by bbox (thanks to Pavel for his RSS filter btw). OWL has been turned off, ITO-like visualizations are pretty but unuseful. The simple question who has deleted my road? turned out to be very hard to answer. But there has been a simple solution, that I'm amazed no one has come to before. To cut long story short, I present to you the service to answer the frequently asked question: WHO DID IT? http://zverik.osm.rambler.ru/whodidit/ This is simply amazing - there's no words to describe how long I waited for such tool. I really hope that official or semi-official instance of this service will be implemented (maybe during that improvement project financed by grant), because it's a must. Greatest stuff is that it works very reliably. Thanks Ilya. Respectfully, Peteris. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
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Ilya, That is an amazing piece of work. This will be something I use very, very often. Thanks! On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 2:24 AM, Ilya Zverev zve...@textual.ru wrote: Hi! For a long time now, there has been no tool to properly monitor an area. Essentially the only way of doing it is to filter changeset history by bbox (thanks to Pavel for his RSS filter btw). OWL has been turned off, ITO-like visualizations are pretty but unuseful. The simple question who has deleted my road? turned out to be very hard to answer. But there has been a simple solution, that I'm amazed no one has come to before. To cut long story short, I present to you the service to answer the frequently asked question: WHO DID IT? http://zverik.osm.rambler.ru/whodidit/ It basically downloads hourly replication diffs and stores information on affected 0.01-degree tiles, along with extra information, like user name or a number of modified objects. Then it is possible to do some analysis of that data, to rid users of doing it themselves: which changesets should they pay most attention to, where was anything deleted, and which tiles have only got new data. Obviously this service relies only on nodes: other objects do not have spatial information on them in diffs; querying the server every time is expensive, and keeping minutely planet database is no less costly. I've preloaded WHODIDIT with the data since 1st of July, and it's only one gigabyte per three months of changes (half of which are indices). Yes, you can see what redaction bot has touched. Also it allows to make RSS feed similar to OWL's. I think everything is pretty straightforward, and there is an instruction picture: http://zverik.osm.rambler.ru/whodidit/wdi_guide.gif The source is licensed WTFPL, and it should be very easy to set up, for example, a mirror or a regional version of this service. It's entirely in Perl/PHP/MySQL. Check it at https://github.com/Zverik/whodidit Oh, and if you see no tiles, try zooming in, levels 12-13 should have everything. I've not yet figured how to pass error messages to the front-end, so there is no helpful message. Thanks, IZ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- martijn van exel http://oegeo.wordpress.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
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Maybe there is a way to make a custom link appear on the official relation history page on osm.org? On Sep 30, 2012, at 2:30 AM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: Ilya, That is an amazing piece of work. This will be something I use very, very often. Thanks! On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 2:24 AM, Ilya Zverev zve...@textual.ru wrote: Hi! For a long time now, there has been no tool to properly monitor an area. Essentially the only way of doing it is to filter changeset history by bbox (thanks to Pavel for his RSS filter btw). OWL has been turned off, ITO-like visualizations are pretty but unuseful. The simple question who has deleted my road? turned out to be very hard to answer. But there has been a simple solution, that I'm amazed no one has come to before. To cut long story short, I present to you the service to answer the frequently asked question: WHO DID IT? http://zverik.osm.rambler.ru/whodidit/ It basically downloads hourly replication diffs and stores information on affected 0.01-degree tiles, along with extra information, like user name or a number of modified objects. Then it is possible to do some analysis of that data, to rid users of doing it themselves: which changesets should they pay most attention to, where was anything deleted, and which tiles have only got new data. Obviously this service relies only on nodes: other objects do not have spatial information on them in diffs; querying the server every time is expensive, and keeping minutely planet database is no less costly. I've preloaded WHODIDIT with the data since 1st of July, and it's only one gigabyte per three months of changes (half of which are indices). Yes, you can see what redaction bot has touched. Also it allows to make RSS feed similar to OWL's. I think everything is pretty straightforward, and there is an instruction picture: http://zverik.osm.rambler.ru/whodidit/wdi_guide.gif The source is licensed WTFPL, and it should be very easy to set up, for example, a mirror or a regional version of this service. It's entirely in Perl/PHP/MySQL. Check it at https://github.com/Zverik/whodidit Oh, and if you see no tiles, try zooming in, levels 12-13 should have everything. I've not yet figured how to pass error messages to the front-end, so there is no helpful message. Thanks, IZ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- martijn van exel http://oegeo.wordpress.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
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Iļja Zvērs atkal ir noplosījies un radijis *strādājošu* sistēmu elementārai izmaiņu sekošanai :) Varbūt uztaisīt Latvijas instanci. P. Pārsūtīta vēstule-- No: Ilya Zverev zve...@textual.ru Kam: Talk t...@openstreetmap.org Temats: [OSM-talk] Who Did It? Datums: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 12:24:06 +0400 Hi! For a long time now, there has been no tool to properly monitor an area. Essentially the only way of doing it is to filter changeset history by bbox (thanks to Pavel for his RSS filter btw). OWL has been turned off, ITO-like visualizations are pretty but unuseful. The simple question who has deleted my road? turned out to be very hard to answer. But there has been a simple solution, that I'm amazed no one has come to before. To cut long story short, I present to you the service to answer the frequently asked question: WHO DID IT? http://zverik.osm.rambler.ru/whodidit/ It basically downloads hourly replication diffs and stores information on affected 0.01-degree tiles, along with extra information, like user name or a number of modified objects. Then it is possible to do some analysis of that data, to rid users of doing it themselves: which changesets should they pay most attention to, where was anything deleted, and which tiles have only got new data. Obviously this service relies only on nodes: other objects do not have spatial information on them in diffs; querying the server every time is expensive, and keeping minutely planet database is no less costly. I've preloaded WHODIDIT with the data since 1st of July, and it's only one gigabyte per three months of changes (half of which are indices). Yes, you can see what redaction bot has touched. Also it allows to make RSS feed similar to OWL's. I think everything is pretty straightforward, and there is an instruction picture: http://zverik.osm.rambler.ru/whodidit/wdi_guide.gif The source is licensed WTFPL, and it should be very easy to set up, for example, a mirror or a regional version of this service. It's entirely in Perl/PHP/MySQL. Check it at https://github.com/Zverik/whodidit Oh, and if you see no tiles, try zooming in, levels 12-13 should have everything. I've not yet figured how to pass error messages to the front-end, so there is no helpful message. Thanks, IZ ___ talk mailing list t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ Talk-lv mailing list Talk-lv@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lv
