[talk-au] Fwd: [Aust-NZ] guide to spatial acronyms
-- Forwarded message -- From: Ross Johnson ros...@hotmail.com Date: 17 May 2010 16:06 Subject: [Aust-NZ] guide to spatial acronyms To: aust...@lists.osgeo.org This is a handy guide for deciphering acronyms used in the spatial industry! http://www.icsm.gov.au/icsm/publications/ACRONYMS_and_JARGON.pdf ___ Aust-NZ mailing list aust...@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/aust-nz ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Tagging stormwater drain areas?
On Mon, 17 May 2010 13:27:56 +0800, Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com wrote: Is this what you are talking about? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/basin%3Dinfiltration http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2009-February/034383.html I had looked at basin=infiltration and for some reason decided it wasn't right. However, now that I've looked at it again, it is *exactly* right. Sometimes I think there are too many options to choose from. Thanks! I knew talking about this would help me figure this out. -- Andrew Gregory mailto:and...@scss.com.au http://www.scss.com.au/family/andrew/ ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Tagging stormwater drain areas?
On Mon, 17 May 2010, Steve Bennett wrote: Incidentally, to make sure I'm understanding what we're talking about, you're talking about an area where water runs *into*, in order to seep into the soil? That would be a retention basin I think, and these drains have exits as far as i understand ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations
On Mon, 17 May 2010, John Smith wrote: The current tagging scheme for doing transponders don't seem to take multiple transponders on the same tower: multiple transponders and transmitters is normal, isn't it? (puts on ham radio hat) ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Tagging stormwater drain areas?
Liz wrote: On Mon, 17 May 2010, Steve Bennett wrote: Incidentally, to make sure I'm understanding what we're talking about, you're talking about an area where water runs *into*, in order to seep into the soil? That would be a "retention basin" I think, and these drains have exits as far as i understand Most retention basins still have exits. During light rain water flows out the exit. When rainfall is really heavy, the exit doesn't cope, and the water backs up and fills the retention basin. It later drains away, either into the soil or through the exit channel/pipe/drain. The exits are deliberately made small to hold the water back and prevent flooding downstream. (Source - a friend who used to work for the Water Board) Richard ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations
On 17 May 2010 20:12, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: multiple transponders and transmitters is normal, isn't it? (puts on ham radio hat) Not always, think older AM radio mast installations, especially in rural areas... ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations
On Tue, 18 May 2010, you wrote: On 17 May 2010 20:12, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: multiple transponders and transmitters is normal, isn't it? (puts on ham radio hat) Not always, think older AM radio mast installations, especially in rural areas... that's this http://billiau.net/zoph/photo.php?photo_id=8919 around here every mast has heaps of transmitters tower space can be sold for good money a single transmitter on a tower is rare, unless we map these ones http://billiau.net/zoph/photo.php?photo_id=8908 which is an automated river height gauge -- Let me take you a button-hole lower. -- William Shakespeare, Love's Labour's Lost ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations
On Tue, 18 May 2010, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: On Tue, 18 May 2010, you wrote: On 17 May 2010 20:12, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: multiple transponders and transmitters is normal, isn't it? (puts on ham radio hat) Not always, think older AM radio mast installations, especially in rural areas... that's this http://billiau.net/zoph/photo.php?photo_id=8919 careful inspection shows that tower space here has been shared with another install (photo 8918 shows the full height of the tower) around here every mast has heaps of transmitters tower space can be sold for good money a single transmitter on a tower is rare, unless we map these ones http://billiau.net/zoph/photo.php?photo_id=8908 which is an automated river height gauge ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations
On 18 May 2010 08:04, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: around here every mast has heaps of transmitters tower space can be sold for good money a single transmitter on a tower is rare, unless we map these ones Maybe so, but the data the ACMA released only covers TV and radio stations, it doesn't cover mobile phones and point to point links etc... ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 8:29 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 May 2010 08:04, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: around here every mast has heaps of transmitters tower space can be sold for good money a single transmitter on a tower is rare, unless we map these ones Maybe so, but the data the ACMA released only covers TV and radio stations, it doesn't cover mobile phones and point to point links etc... The original data source contains all those kinds of things: http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/site_proximity.nearby_sites_list?pMODE=DMSpLAT=-35.13873086pLONG=149.17643464 It would be nice to see the whole dataset released, especially since the map viewer on the site isn't compatible with Google Chrome. It usually costs you $114/year on CDROM so probably not going to happen too soon. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations
On Tue, 18 May 2010, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir wrote: On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 8:29 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 May 2010 08:04, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: around here every mast has heaps of transmitters tower space can be sold for good money a single transmitter on a tower is rare, unless we map these ones Maybe so, but the data the ACMA released only covers TV and radio stations, it doesn't cover mobile phones and point to point links etc... The original data source contains all those kinds of things: http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/site_proximity.nearby_sites_list?pMODE=DM SpLAT=-35.13873086pLONG=149.17643464 It would be nice to see the whole dataset released, especially since the map viewer on the site isn't compatible with Google Chrome. It usually costs you $114/year on CDROM so probably not going to happen too soon. Interesting, lists commercial licencees only ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations
On Tue, 18 May 2010, John Smith wrote: On 18 May 2010 09:35, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir maxi...@gmail.com wrote: The original data source contains all those kinds of things: http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/site_proximity.nearby_sites_list?pMODE= DMSpLAT=-35.13873086pLONG=149.17643464 It would be nice to see the whole dataset released, especially since the map viewer on the site isn't compatible with Google Chrome. It It didn't work for me in Opera 10.53, FF2 or FF3... Maybe it only works in IE6? FF3 or Konqueror was enough to get a listing of the sites close to a given area despite a piece saying xml error ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations
On Tue, 18 May 2010, John Smith wrote: On 18 May 2010 09:50, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: Interesting, lists commercial licencees only That's a list of transmission sites, while most are probably commercial installations, I'm guessing some of the transponders will be for community radio and tv stations. I found community radio, the tourist radio commercial entities fire brigade, SES government departments but no amateurs -- BOFH excuse #18: excess surge protection ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations
On 18 May 2010 10:29, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: FF3 or Konqueror was enough to get a listing of the sites close to a given area despite a piece saying xml error They have a map, but I couldn't get it to work, just the XML errors in frames... ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] vandalism?
on a low zoom map Tasmania now appears as Hampshire haven't got time to check it out ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Fwd: [Aust-NZ] FW: Request to Participate in GEOSS Survey [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
-- Forwarded message -- From: Bruce Bannerman b.banner...@bom.gov.au Date: 18 May 2010 11:21 Subject: [Aust-NZ] FW: Request to Participate in GEOSS Survey [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] To: aust...@lists.osgeo.org aust...@lists.osgeo.org Fyi. This is a worthwhile survey if you get the time. GEOSS is a global framework that is being established with an aim to share Earth Observation data (image and vector) via Open Spatial Standards with Open Access to the data. Bruce Bannerman [Disclosure: I’m on the GEOSS Common Infrastructure Implementation Team] -- Forwarded Message From: Elizabeth Boulton e.boul...@bom.gov.au Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 10:39:34 +1000 Subject: Request to Participate in GEOSS Survey [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Ladies and gentlemen, I am writing on behalf of Dr Sue Barrell, Australia’s representative on the GEO Executive Committee, to invite you to participate in a survey about Australia’s contribution to GEOSS. About GEO The Group on Earth Observations (GEO) is coordinating efforts to build a Global Earth Observation System of Systems, or GEOSS http://www.earthobservations.org/geoss.shtml . GEOSS commenced in 2005 with the objective of achieving comprehensive, coordinated and sustained observations of the Earth system, in order to improve monitoring of the state of the Earth, increase understanding of Earth processes, and enhance prediction of the behaviour of the Earth system. Now halfway through its 10-year implementation, we’re interested in finding out the extent to which Australia has embraced GEOSS. About the survey The survey has been designed to help gain a better picture of Australia’s involvement in GEOSS, and therefore better represent Australia’s interests in the GEO Executive Committee. We wish to obtain a broad spectrum of responses from a variety of sectors and accordingly gained your email address from a deep trawl of possibly relevant lists of contacts and websites; we are hopeful that this survey is relevant to your work interests. Our survey can handle multiple responses from the one organisation, so please feel free to on-forward as you see fit, however, it is requested that it is only sent to Australian representatives or agencies. The survey can be found at http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/8Y65W8G http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/8Y65W8G and should take no more than 5 mins to complete. It is requested that the survey is completed by Thursday 27th May 2010. Many thanks for you contribution, Yours sincerely, Liz B Elizabeth Boulton Bureau of Meteorology A/Supervisor Climate Policy (SRCL) Level 10 West, 700 Collins Street, Docklands, VIC, 3008 -- End of Forwarded Message ___ Aust-NZ mailing list aust...@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/aust-nz ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 6:41 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: I'm still after suggestions on how to tag multiple transponders for the same node, I don't think tagging multiple nodes on the same spot is a good idea, using a single node + multiple relations might work I suppose, but that doesn't seem optimal either. Relations should only be used for groups of objects in which each object may take on a specific role. I think the problem arises because it's ambiguous as to what you are actually mapping. If mapping the *tower* (it seems you are, given tag k='man_made' v='tower' /), then I think *transponder* information should not be shoehorned into the same element. I'm not sure though... Alternatively, if you think the *transponder* information really is a characteristic of the *tower*, another option is to use communications_transponder:frequency=0.729;0.891. Or, you could instead do something like communications_transponder=0.729_5W_AM_vertical_omni;... etc. A few options for you there. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations
On 18 May 2010 13:00, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: Relations should only be used for groups of objects in which each object may take on a specific role. Maybe so, but it's often the best way to tag things at present since you can't have duplicate keys, but in this case you are grouping a bunch of antenna to a tower... I think the problem arises because it's ambiguous as to what you are actually mapping. If mapping the *tower* (it seems you are, given tag k='man_made' v='tower' /), then I think *transponder* information should not be shoehorned into the same element. There is 2 pieces of information, first the tower itself, and second the transponder/transmitter information both have value. Alternatively, if you think the *transponder* information really is a characteristic of the *tower*, another option is to use communications_transponder:frequency=0.729;0.891. Or, you could instead do something like communications_transponder=0.729_5W_AM_vertical_omni;... etc. That doesn't help any more than listing out the information in individual sub-tags... In fact this makes things much worst since you can't search individual aspects of each transponder/transmitter... This information could be used to plan trips and roughly know where each radio station covers based on the output and frequency, if you then combine digitial elevation information you could have a pretty good idea of ideal coverage... ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] vandalism?
Someone had placed a POI in north western Tasmania for the Hampshire district, but with k=place,v=country, so it was showing up as a country label. I changed it to a hamlet for now. Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 11:40:01 +1000 From: Liz ed...@billiau.net Subject: [talk-au] vandalism? To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Message-ID: 201005181140.01468.ed...@billiau.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii on a low zoom map Tasmania now appears as Hampshire haven't got time to check it out ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
