Re: [talk-au] Question re tagging unpaved vs paved roads

2019-12-30 Thread Warin

On 30/12/19 12:06, Bob Cameron wrote:

Okay thanks all.

Surprisingly the Snowy Mountains Hwy between Dalgety and (almost) 
Bombala NSW had 3 unpaved sections near the wind turbine ridge. It has 
all been fully paved through for more than 3 years.


As I drive I use an OSM based map set on my Garmin GPS to route sealed 
only, so I can discover these map errors. (Garmin doesn't display 
paved vs not)
OSMand can display road surfaces .. I discovered a local residential 
street marked unpaved, must have been paved for decades.

It can also display access restrictions.
I think the phone apps are leaving Garmin behind.


Bob

On 30/12/19 11:14 am, cleary wrote:
If you just delete the tag, someone might interpret it as an 
accidental deletion.  A changed tag is clearly a deliberate decision 
based on new information.





On Sun, 29 Dec 2019, at 8:52 AM, Bob Cameron wrote:

Hi

The tagging guidelines don't quite seem to over this. I'd like to do it
correctly.

When a road is unpaved we use the surface=unpaved tag, the default (no
tag) being paved.

When an unpaved road is (roadwork) paved, should the tag be deleted or
changed to paved?

Thanks


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Re: [talk-au] Question re tagging unpaved vs paved roads

2019-12-29 Thread Bob Cameron

Okay thanks all.

Surprisingly the Snowy Mountains Hwy between Dalgety and (almost) 
Bombala NSW had 3 unpaved sections near the wind turbine ridge. It has 
all been fully paved through for more than 3 years.


As I drive I use an OSM based map set on my Garmin GPS to route sealed 
only, so I can discover these map errors. (Garmin doesn't display paved 
vs not)


Bob

On 30/12/19 11:14 am, cleary wrote:

If you just delete the tag, someone might interpret it as an accidental 
deletion.  A changed tag is clearly a deliberate decision based on new 
information.




On Sun, 29 Dec 2019, at 8:52 AM, Bob Cameron wrote:

Hi

The tagging guidelines don't quite seem to over this. I'd like to do it
correctly.

When a road is unpaved we use the surface=unpaved tag, the default (no
tag) being paved.

When an unpaved road is (roadwork) paved, should the tag be deleted or
changed to paved?

Thanks


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Re: [talk-au] Question re tagging unpaved vs paved roads

2019-12-29 Thread cleary

If you just delete the tag, someone might interpret it as an accidental 
deletion.  A changed tag is clearly a deliberate decision based on new 
information.




On Sun, 29 Dec 2019, at 8:52 AM, Bob Cameron wrote:
> Hi
> 
> The tagging guidelines don't quite seem to over this. I'd like to do it 
> correctly.
> 
> When a road is unpaved we use the surface=unpaved tag, the default (no 
> tag) being paved.
> 
> When an unpaved road is (roadwork) paved, should the tag be deleted or 
> changed to paved?
> 
> Thanks
> 
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Re: [talk-au] Question re tagging unpaved vs paved roads

2019-12-29 Thread Warin

On 29/12/19 19:52, Bob Cameron wrote:

Hi

The tagging guidelines don't quite seem to over this. I'd like to do 
it correctly.


When a road is unpaved we use the surface=unpaved tag, the default (no 
tag) being paved.


When an unpaved road is (roadwork) paved, should the tag be deleted or 
changed to paved?


Changed to 'paved', not deleted. And only the section that is paved 
should be tagged paved, not the other parts that remain unpaved.


If the paving is going to be removed .. then I simply don't bother.
If the paving is going to be unmaintained and deteriorate .. then I'd 
still mark it paved .. and later on unpaved.




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