Re: [talk-au] Routable maps
!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN html head meta content=text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1 http-equiv=Content-Type /head body bgcolor=#ff text=#00 Thanks for this info. I downloaded the routable maps last night and tried them out today at work (I'm a delivery driver - gives me lots of opportunity to try out the Etrex).br br Mostly, the routable maps worked well - gave good point-to-point instructions. I did find one roundabout that asked to go round the wrong way - I will check that out in OSM later.br br I loaded the maps into the Etrex using Garmin's Mapsource, so the problems with IMG2GPS can be deferred for the moment. Using MapSource also allowed me to load ContoursAustralia at the same time as the OSM maps, so I still have my contour lines. Thank you to other users who suggested alternate maps and download methods - I will check them out during the holiday break. But it is Christmas Eve, and I need to pack the car, and put in some waypoints for the unmapped wild caves (Timor Caves, NSW) that we plan to explore during the break.br br Richard C.br That sounds like a lot more fun than driving the Sturt Highway for Xmas :-) ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Routable maps
I also just tried out routing on my new Garmin Oregon 550...awesome. I was on cycling Churchill Park in Melbourne's east and camping the night. The gps, using only osm data, found me some really interesting tracks that I wouldn't have thought of on my own. Someone's done a good job in that area. It's particularly cool that you can see some interesting singletrack, take it, and the gps figures out a way to incorporate that decision and still get you to your destination. Then, on the way home, I used it again. I had to get my car towed to a mechanic, then ride home. I would have gone a pretty boring way by default, but the gps pointed out that I was near the elster canal bike path, and took me that way. It's still not perfect — Garmin doesn't value bike paths as highly as I do — but it's really helpful. I was pretty skeptical about the value of routing on roads, but now I'm convinced that it can you help you find more interesting ways around. Steve ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Routable maps
Steve Bennett wrote: I also just tried out routing on my new Garmin Oregon 550...awesome. I was on cycling Churchill Park in Melbourne's east and camping the night. The gps, using only osm data, found me some really interesting tracks that I wouldn't have thought of on my own. Someone's done a good job in that area. It's particularly cool that you can see some interesting singletrack, take it, and the gps figures out a way to incorporate that decision and still get you to your destination. Then, on the way home, I used it again. I had to get my car towed to a mechanic, then ride home. I would have gone a pretty boring way by default, but the gps pointed out that I was near the elster canal bike path, and took me that way. It's still not perfect — Garmin doesn't value bike paths as highly as I do — but it's really helpful. I was pretty skeptical about the value of routing on roads, but now I'm convinced that it can you help you find more interesting ways around. Using mkgmap to prepare Garmin-format routable maps, you have the flexibility to prioritize whatever type of ways you want for routing purposes. See: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mkgmap/help/style_rules It's great fun experimenting with your own Garmin routable bike (and road) maps. You can choose your own colours for the different types of ways, and icons for POIs, using this facility: http://ati.land.cz/gps/typdecomp/editor.cgi John ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Routable maps
I also just tried out routing on my new Garmin Oregon 550...awesome. I was on cycling Churchill Park in Melbourne's east and camping the night. The gps, using only osm data, found me some really interesting tracks that I wouldn't have thought of on my own. Someone's done a good job in that area. It's particularly cool that you can see some interesting singletrack, take it, and the gps figures out a way to incorporate that decision and still get you to your destination. Then, on the way home, I used it again. I had to get my car towed to a mechanic, then ride home. I would have gone a pretty boring way by default, but the gps pointed out that I was near the elster canal bike path, and took me that way. It's still not perfect Garmin doesn't value bike paths as highly as I do but it's really helpful. I was pretty skeptical about the value of routing on roads, but now I'm convinced that it can you help you find more interesting ways around. Steve I gave myself one for Christmas and have not got it as far as the bike yet although I have bought it all the necessary accessories. After a lot of fiddling I have succeeded in getting it to send to gpsd so if anyone wants to know pm me. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Routable maps
Thanks for this info. I downloaded the routable maps last night and tried them out today at work (I'm a delivery driver - gives me lots of opportunity to try out the Etrex). Mostly, the routable maps worked well - gave good point-to-point instructions. I did find one roundabout that asked to go round the wrong way - I will check that out in OSM later. I loaded the maps into the Etrex using Garmin's Mapsource, so the problems with IMG2GPS can be deferred for the moment. Using MapSource also allowed me to load ContoursAustralia at the same time as the OSM maps, so I still have my contour lines. Thank you to other users who suggested alternate maps and download methods - I will check them out during the holiday break. But it is Christmas Eve, and I need to pack the car, and put in some waypoints for the unmapped wild caves (Timor Caves, NSW) that we plan to explore during the break. Richard C. Matt White wrote: There are routable versions of garmin maps on the OSMAustralia site, but you've got to scroll down a bit to find them - try this link http://www.osmaustralia.org/garminroute.php It does look like the IMG2GPS setup kit (and site has gone walkabout). I think I've got the setup kit kicking around somewhere - I'll email it to you directly Others programs can push the maps to the Garmin devices - MapSource, M3, cGPSMapper (which is what IMG2GPS actually uses), and some others. Have a look around www.gpsaustralia.net for other links (malsingmaps have some additional links but the site is a pig to navigate around) Matt Richard Colless wrote: I'm new to OSM, having recently replaced my 12 year old Magellan GPS with a Garmin Etrex Legend CX. I've been following with some interest the discussion about roundabouts and how they are mapped. I have downloaded the OSM maps into my Etrex, but as far as I was aware, the OSM maps were not routable. They certainly aren't on my Etrex. Any attempt to "GoTo" a waypoint or a POI gives an error message "No roads near starting point". Now I know that this is not a fault of the Etrex. I have a card which I bought for $45 on eBay, which is routable, and will give turn by turn directions to a location. It's not much of a map, though. Streets aren't accurate, and many streets appear twice. And the nearest ATM to a SW Sydney suburb was the Westpac bank in Ballina. (What would you expect for a $45 card?) But your discussion about roundabouts tells me that OSM maps can be routable, so I must be doing something wrong when I load them. I am downloading the individual .IMG files from the OSM Australia website (http://www.osmaustralia.org/index.php), and I have used a utility called MapsetToolkit to make the OSM maps appear in the Garmin MapSource program. This lets me simply select the tiles that I want, and transfer them to the Etrex via MapSource. It also lets me add Contours Australia maps, so that my OSM maps have contour lines. Works well, but the maps aren't routable. I thought of trying the IMG2GPS program that is recommended on the OSM Australia website, but it doesn't seem to be available any more. All the links go to an expired domain name. Does anyone have any suggestions? Richard C.*_** http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mdipol/img2gps/_* ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Routable maps
There are routable versions of garmin maps on the OSMAustralia site, but you've got to scroll down a bit to find them - try this link http://www.osmaustralia.org/garminroute.php It does look like the IMG2GPS setup kit (and site has gone walkabout). I think I've got the setup kit kicking around somewhere - I'll email it to you directly Others programs can push the maps to the Garmin devices - MapSource, M3, cGPSMapper (which is what IMG2GPS actually uses), and some others. Have a look around www.gpsaustralia.net for other links (malsingmaps have some additional links but the site is a pig to navigate around) Matt Richard Colless wrote: I'm new to OSM, having recently replaced my 12 year old Magellan GPS with a Garmin Etrex Legend CX. I've been following with some interest the discussion about roundabouts and how they are mapped. I have downloaded the OSM maps into my Etrex, but as far as I was aware, the OSM maps were not routable. They certainly aren't on my Etrex. Any attempt to GoTo a waypoint or a POI gives an error message No roads near starting point. Now I know that this is not a fault of the Etrex. I have a card which I bought for $45 on eBay, which is routable, and will give turn by turn directions to a location. It's not much of a map, though. Streets aren't accurate, and many streets appear twice. And the nearest ATM to a SW Sydney suburb was the Westpac bank in Ballina. (What would you expect for a $45 card?) But your discussion about roundabouts tells me that OSM maps can be routable, so I must be doing something wrong when I load them. I am downloading the individual .IMG files from the OSM Australia website (http://www.osmaustralia.org/index.php), and I have used a utility called MapsetToolkit to make the OSM maps appear in the Garmin MapSource program. This lets me simply select the tiles that I want, and transfer them to the Etrex via MapSource. It also lets me add Contours Australia maps, so that my OSM maps have contour lines. Works well, but the maps aren't routable. I thought of trying the IMG2GPS program that is recommended on the OSM Australia website, but it doesn't seem to be available any more. All the links go to an expired domain name. Does anyone have any suggestions? Richard C.*_** http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mdipol/img2gps/_* ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Routable maps
Nope, can't find the IMG2GPS setup kit - could be on my machine at work - will look tomorrow. In the mean time, I think SendMap will work - http://www.cgpsmapper.com/download/sendmap20.zip It's written by the same guy that wrote cGPSMapper. I think I might have used it previously on an old machine, but the forgettory isn't what it used to be Bit of a bugger - I reckon that IMG2GPS site only went AWOL in the last week or so - I was there no more than two weeks ago grabbing IMG2GPS, but it looks like I've nuked the setup kit Matt White wrote: There are routable versions of garmin maps on the OSMAustralia site, but you've got to scroll down a bit to find them - try this link http://www.osmaustralia.org/garminroute.php It does look like the IMG2GPS setup kit (and site has gone walkabout). I think I've got the setup kit kicking around somewhere - I'll email it to you directly Others programs can push the maps to the Garmin devices - MapSource, M3, cGPSMapper (which is what IMG2GPS actually uses), and some others. Have a look around www.gpsaustralia.net for other links (malsingmaps have some additional links but the site is a pig to navigate around) Matt Richard Colless wrote: I'm new to OSM, having recently replaced my 12 year old Magellan GPS with a Garmin Etrex Legend CX. I've been following with some interest the discussion about roundabouts and how they are mapped. I have downloaded the OSM maps into my Etrex, but as far as I was aware, the OSM maps were not routable. They certainly aren't on my Etrex. Any attempt to GoTo a waypoint or a POI gives an error message No roads near starting point. Now I know that this is not a fault of the Etrex. I have a card which I bought for $45 on eBay, which is routable, and will give turn by turn directions to a location. It's not much of a map, though. Streets aren't accurate, and many streets appear twice. And the nearest ATM to a SW Sydney suburb was the Westpac bank in Ballina. (What would you expect for a $45 card?) But your discussion about roundabouts tells me that OSM maps can be routable, so I must be doing something wrong when I load them. I am downloading the individual .IMG files from the OSM Australia website (http://www.osmaustralia.org/index.php), and I have used a utility called MapsetToolkit to make the OSM maps appear in the Garmin MapSource program. This lets me simply select the tiles that I want, and transfer them to the Etrex via MapSource. It also lets me add Contours Australia maps, so that my OSM maps have contour lines. Works well, but the maps aren't routable. I thought of trying the IMG2GPS program that is recommended on the OSM Australia website, but it doesn't seem to be available any more. All the links go to an expired domain name. Does anyone have any suggestions? Richard C.*_** http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mdipol/img2gps/_* ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Routable maps
Sorry I've got the email dribbles Anyway, it looks like the old site is still operational - ish. The direct download link from the old site is still active. Try this link http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mdipol/img2gps/img2gps_281_setup.exe Matt Matt White wrote: Nope, can't find the IMG2GPS setup kit - could be on my machine at work - will look tomorrow. In the mean time, I think SendMap will work - http://www.cgpsmapper.com/download/sendmap20.zip It's written by the same guy that wrote cGPSMapper. I think I might have used it previously on an old machine, but the forgettory isn't what it used to be Bit of a bugger - I reckon that IMG2GPS site only went AWOL in the last week or so - I was there no more than two weeks ago grabbing IMG2GPS, but it looks like I've nuked the setup kit Matt White wrote: There are routable versions of garmin maps on the OSMAustralia site, but you've got to scroll down a bit to find them - try this link http://www.osmaustralia.org/garminroute.php It does look like the IMG2GPS setup kit (and site has gone walkabout). I think I've got the setup kit kicking around somewhere - I'll email it to you directly Others programs can push the maps to the Garmin devices - MapSource, M3, cGPSMapper (which is what IMG2GPS actually uses), and some others. Have a look around www.gpsaustralia.net for other links (malsingmaps have some additional links but the site is a pig to navigate around) Matt Richard Colless wrote: I'm new to OSM, having recently replaced my 12 year old Magellan GPS with a Garmin Etrex Legend CX. I've been following with some interest the discussion about roundabouts and how they are mapped. I have downloaded the OSM maps into my Etrex, but as far as I was aware, the OSM maps were not routable. They certainly aren't on my Etrex. Any attempt to GoTo a waypoint or a POI gives an error message No roads near starting point. Now I know that this is not a fault of the Etrex. I have a card which I bought for $45 on eBay, which is routable, and will give turn by turn directions to a location. It's not much of a map, though. Streets aren't accurate, and many streets appear twice. And the nearest ATM to a SW Sydney suburb was the Westpac bank in Ballina. (What would you expect for a $45 card?) But your discussion about roundabouts tells me that OSM maps can be routable, so I must be doing something wrong when I load them. I am downloading the individual .IMG files from the OSM Australia website (http://www.osmaustralia.org/index.php), and I have used a utility called MapsetToolkit to make the OSM maps appear in the Garmin MapSource program. This lets me simply select the tiles that I want, and transfer them to the Etrex via MapSource. It also lets me add Contours Australia maps, so that my OSM maps have contour lines. Works well, but the maps aren't routable. I thought of trying the IMG2GPS program that is recommended on the OSM Australia website, but it doesn't seem to be available any more. All the links go to an expired domain name. Does anyone have any suggestions? Richard C.*_** http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mdipol/img2gps/_* ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Routable maps
Not all the img files you'll find lying around are routable. Some are, some aren't. As Matt said, some of the ones on the OSM Australia are, but not all. There are other sources as well - see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Map_On_Garmin/Download for a partial list. (Check the routable column) If you have .img files to load, you may be able to ignore the whole software route, and just use your etrex like a USB drive. I have an Etrex, though not a Legend CX, and I keep a number of img files on it it with different names (for different purposes). If I want to use a different one, I can just attach to the nearest computer, rename the files so the one I want is called gmapsupp.img (in the Garmin folder), and I'm done. On my Etrex, you go into the Menu, go to setup, then interface, and there is an option there to use the machine in USB mode. Stephen 2009/12/22 Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au: But your discussion about roundabouts tells me that OSM maps can be routable, so I must be doing something wrong when I load them. I am downloading the individual .IMG files from the OSM Australia website (http://www.osmaustralia.org/index.php), and I have used a utility called MapsetToolkit to make the OSM maps appear in the Garmin MapSource program. This lets me simply select the tiles that I want, and transfer them to the Etrex via MapSource. It also lets me add Contours Australia maps, so that my OSM maps have contour lines. Works well, but the maps aren't routable. I thought of trying the IMG2GPS program that is recommended on the OSM Australia website, but it doesn't seem to be available any more. All the links go to an expired domain name. Does anyone have any suggestions? Richard C. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Routable Maps
Another OSM routable source of maps with improved track definition is: http://openmtbmap.org/download/ John k ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Routable Maps
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 1:58 PM, John Kitchener johnkitche...@gmail.com wrote: Another OSM routable source of maps with improved track definition is: http://openmtbmap.org/download/ Useful if you're on your bike, not so useful if you're in the car as it'll route you down bike paths. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
