Re: [OSM-talk-be] Bingify Belgium
Le 24/12/2010 12:25, Rob a écrit : Also did some 'electrifying' work in very different regions Same here for Nijlen and region. Did some around liege, while connecting the dutch and belgium power grid ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be Gonna bingify around Verviers... :) Claude ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Bingify Belgium
After doiing Rivierenhof in Deurne (and some other parks) I'm goiing to concentrate on Ford Lommel Proving Ground. Intresting. Should I tag: highway:raceway or something else? (testtrack?) -- wannes ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Bingify Belgium
Also did some 'electrifying' work in very different regions Same here for Nijlen and region. Did some around liege, while connecting the dutch and belgium power grid ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Bingify Belgium
On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 15:25:11 +0100, Paul Cardinaels wrote: Hello all, I'm busy to bingify Belgium, my main focus for the time being are my two home towns: Hoogstraten (and let's not forget Eimai's big contribution): http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.4474lon=4.7686zoom=12layers=M [1] Neerpelt: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.2272lon=5.4549zoom=13layers=M [2] I was wondering how many people are doing this kind of work, and throwing in THE IDEA TO SET SOME COMMON GOALS, to make the work more enjoyable and less mind-numbing. I am always interested in railways and have started again on the railways in Belgium. Some are way off according to the Bing maps. I know Bing is not always on the mark, but I've seen bigger errors than 10 meters. And sometimes when I'm at it I also trace some roads. Yesterday I did some work in Bertrix. Regards, Maarten ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Bingify Belgium
I'm bingifying within the borders of Dendermonde. Setting landuse Drawing buildings Aligning roades with the images Setting housenumbers and shops Greetings, Johan On 12/23/2010 03:25 PM, Paul Cardinaels wrote: Hello all, I'm busy to bingify Belgium, my main focus for the time being are my two home towns: Hoogstraten (and let's not forget Eimai's big contribution): http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.4474lon=4.7686zoom=12layers=M http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.4474lon=4.7686zoom=12layers=M Neerpelt: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.2272lon=5.4549zoom=13layers=M http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.2272lon=5.4549zoom=13layers=M I was wondering how many people are doing this kind of work, and throwing in *the idea to set some common goals*, to make the work more enjoyable and less mind-numbing. Looking forward to your replies, Paul Cardinaels ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be Newtecs MENOS system awarded IBC Innovation Award for Content Delivery the IBC Judges Award Newtecs FlexACM awarded 2009 Teleport Technology of the Year by WTA *** e-mail confidentiality footer *** This message and any attachments thereto are confidential. They may also be privileged or otherwise protected by work product immunity or other legal rules. If you have received it by mistake, please let us know by e-mail reply and delete it from your system; you may not copy this message or disclose its contents to anyone. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore is in no way liable for any errors or omissions in the content of this message, which may arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard copy. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Bingify Belgium
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Paul Cardinaels p.cardina...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I'm busy to bingify Belgium, my main focus for the time being are my two home towns: Didn't have to much time. I did the park Rivierenhof (many wrong roads, non-existing, way off). Most is done now. -- wannes ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Bingify Belgium
Hi guys, I'm personally working on this, mainly my hometown area of Hulshout and the surrounding towns. My focus is (in order): 1) roads (missing + aligning) 2) rivers / railway (missing + aligning) 3) landuse 4) city borders On some parts (roads), sometimes I wonder about the actual road surface (paved/unpaved) and this typically triggers me to go and visit the road to see its condition. But this is rather hard with this weather :D Also some parts to watch out for, which I already experienced: don't try to blindly trust bing data, the data isn't perfectly current. For example in my town of Houtvenne there is a new street (at least 1 year old), which is not visible on Bing yet, but which I mapped earlier on by means of GPX tracks. Kind regards, Kenny Moens On 23/12/2010 15:25, Paul Cardinaels wrote: Hello all, I'm busy to bingify Belgium, my main focus for the time being are my two home towns: Hoogstraten (and let's not forget Eimai's big contribution): http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.4474lon=4.7686zoom=12layers=M http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.4474lon=4.7686zoom=12layers=M Neerpelt: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.2272lon=5.4549zoom=13layers=M http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.2272lon=5.4549zoom=13layers=M I was wondering how many people are doing this kind of work, and throwing in *the idea to set some common goals*, to make the work more enjoyable and less mind-numbing. Looking forward to your replies, Paul Cardinaels ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be -- Kenny Moens ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Bingify Belgium
I had the same question. Checked the wiki, and it seems everyone has that question and there is no real answer. I'm reusing nodes. This means it is a bit harder to edit (although it is perfectly supported and possible by JOSM), but it gives a much cleaner result on the map. Johan On 12/23/2010 04:47 PM, Peter Leemans wrote: Also did some 'electrifying' work in very different regions Same here for Nijlen and region. Also done some stuff in Herenthout. Seeing the replies, I understand now the interface sometimes timed out on uploads :). Got a question with respect to the landuse. I see different ways of connecting different neighbouring land-uses. Is it recommended to reuse the same points, or as I did, just draw the borders very close to each other. Regards, Peter 'Toi' Leemans On 12/23/2010 04:12 PM, Johan Huysmans wrote: I'm bingifying within the borders of Dendermonde. Setting landuse Drawing buildings Aligning roades with the images Setting housenumbers and shops Greetings, Johan On 12/23/2010 03:25 PM, Paul Cardinaels wrote: Hello all, I'm busy to bingify Belgium, my main focus for the time being are my two home towns: Hoogstraten (and let's not forget Eimai's big contribution): http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.4474lon=4.7686zoom=12layers=M http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.4474lon=4.7686zoom=12layers=M Neerpelt: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.2272lon=5.4549zoom=13layers=M http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.2272lon=5.4549zoom=13layers=M I was wondering how many people are doing this kind of work, and throwing in *the idea to set some common goals*, to make the work more enjoyable and less mind-numbing. Looking forward to your replies, Paul Cardinaels ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be Newtec's MENOS system awarded IBC Innovation Award for Content Delivery the IBC Judges' Award Newtec's FlexACM awarded 2009 Teleport Technology of the Year by WTA *** e-mail confidentiality footer *** This message and any attachments thereto are confidential. They may also be privileged or otherwise protected by work product immunity or other legal rules. If you have received it by mistake, please let us know by e-mail reply and delete it from your system; you may not copy this message or disclose its contents to anyone. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore is in no way liable for any errors or omissions in the content of this message, which may arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard copy. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be Newtecs MENOS system awarded IBC Innovation Award for Content Delivery the IBC Judges Award Newtecs FlexACM awarded 2009 Teleport Technology of the Year by WTA *** e-mail confidentiality footer *** This message and any attachments thereto are confidential. They may also be privileged or otherwise protected by work product immunity or other legal rules. If you have received it by mistake, please let us know by e-mail reply and delete it from your system; you may not copy this message or disclose its contents to anyone. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore is in no way liable for any errors or omissions in the content of this message, which may arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard copy. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Bingify Belgium
I'm doing a few bingifications: landuse: * did part of Hoogstraten http://osm.org/go/0Esm6kMc-- * filled the 3dshapes gap at Poppel http://osm.org/go/0EuGY2x1-- * just went south to Loenhout, Sint-Lenaarts to Oostmalle. The original idea was creating some sort of a grid, but not sure if I'm going to pursue that thought. But basically I'm just randomly following the interesting direction :-) http://osm.org/go/0EsiMU2-- other: * also worked on the coasts and ports of Zeebrugge, Ostend, Blankenberge, and worked on the Kusttram (experimentally mapping it with one way = one rail track, so you get two lines) which includes improving the N34 http://osm.org/go/0Ekgho1q * railways near Zeebrugge (also one track = one way) * and I've been several improving regional roads (gewestwegen) * also added the odd power line Peter Leemans wrote: Got a question with respect to the landuse. I see different ways of connecting different neighbouring land-uses. Is it recommended to reuse the same points, or as I did, just draw the borders very close to each other. I take 3dshapes as example, which means reusing the common nodes. Greetings Ben ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Bingify Belgium
On jeudi 23 décembre 2010 at 16:47, Peter Leemans wrote : Also did some 'electrifying' work in very different regions Same here for Nijlen and region. Done that too, it is fun to search for the next tower to continue the power line. I also draw rivers (some parts of Meuse, Sambre and Vesdre so far), and use it to add many details to places I know (mainly in Namur and Liege). Got a question with respect to the landuse. I see different ways of connecting different neighbouring land-uses. Is it recommended to reuse the same points, or as I did, just draw the borders very close to each other. My personal rule is, if the landuse are really connected (there is nothing between them, or only a barrier) I reuse the same nodes. If there is a highway, or a track between them I trace the three of them separated. I never connect a landuse to a highway, to do so would require to draw the highway as an area to connect the correct edge to the landuse. I think that a highway drawn as a single line is supposed to correspond to the center of the road/way. -- Renaud Michel ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Bingify Belgium
On jeudi 23 décembre 2010 at 16:21, Kenny Moens wrote : Also some parts to watch out for, which I already experienced: don't try to blindly trust bing data, the data isn't perfectly current. For example in my town of Houtvenne there is a new street (at least 1 year old), which is not visible on Bing yet, but which I mapped earlier on by means of GPX tracks. Yes, I can point you to a few places in Liege where bing is outdated, mainly new roundabouts (we never get enough of those) :-) -- Renaud Michel ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Bingify Belgium
I'm bingifying Tielt. Fixed roads, drew some important buildings, added shops etc. Still WIP. Jens On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Renaud MICHEL r.h.michel+...@gmail.com wrote: On jeudi 23 décembre 2010 at 16:21, Kenny Moens wrote : Also some parts to watch out for, which I already experienced: don't try to blindly trust bing data, the data isn't perfectly current. For example in my town of Houtvenne there is a new street (at least 1 year old), which is not visible on Bing yet, but which I mapped earlier on by means of GPX tracks. Yes, I can point you to a few places in Liege where bing is outdated, mainly new roundabouts (we never get enough of those) :-) -- Renaud Michel ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Bingify Belgium
Hi all, I'm mostly adding new paths and tracks around Huldenberg with JOSM, using Bing (and previously Yahoo) to correct ways and adding landmark buildings in connection of the new material. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=50.7876lon=4.5993zoom=13layers=M Gerard. Jo wrote: I'm working around Bekkevoort, Bierbeek and Leuven. I was almost considering to buy a balloon or a kite, or make a ride on a balloon to make my own aerial imagery. Some features are next to impossible to map by surveying. (forests, rivers, lakes, buildings, landuse). So I'm really grateful with Bing's decision to let us use their imagery. I noticed that around Leuven/Diest all the imagery is 3 years old. Of course some things have changed in the mean time, but mostly it's very useable and certainly better than nothing at all. I try to make landuses as big as possible and I do connect it to the highways. It gives the best result when exporting to PDF and printing them, especially at high zoom levels. When working on a region I first trace the smaller features like buildings, orchards, forests, then residential/commercial landuse, then farmland. in between. The quality of the map is increasing tremendously, hopefully the database won't get overloaded... Jo ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
