Re: [Talk-ca] 092g07 imported and uploaded

2009-06-02 Thread SteveC

On 1 Jun 2009, at 22:36, Sam Vekemans wrote:
 I decided not to add these tag to the  
 'TR_1760009_1roads_segment_GeoBase', because the Geobase roads are  
 more uptodate, and dont want people to be updating the area will the  
 most complete data.  The house numbering system, of having it  
 imbedded in the road, is rather difficult to get it rendered right,  
 and doesnt match the current system of addressing roads.  So the  
 best solution is to omit those house number:first:last:left:right  
 tags, and deal with them separartly.

Yes - I think you should follow the Karlsruhe Schema, which is what  
everyone else is doing addresses in these days.

Best

Steve


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Re: [Talk-ca] 092g07 imported and uploaded

2009-06-01 Thread SteveC
Stupid question, you guys importing addressing too?

On 31 May 2009, at 21:38, Michael Barabanov wrote:

  It is nice to see more people importing the GeoBase data.  Are you  
 going to be doing more areas in BC?

 Yes, starting with adjacent areas to south and east.

 Michael.

 On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Steve Singer  
 ssinger...@sympatico.ca wrote:
 On Sun, 31 May 2009, Michael Barabanov wrote:


 This includes parts of Burnaby, North Vancouver, Coquitlam, Port  
 Coquitlam,
 Port Moody. See on OSM:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-123minlat=49.25maxlon=-122.5maxlat=49.5box=yes

 Looks good.

 It is nice to see more people importing the GeoBase data.  Are you  
 going to be doing more areas in BC?

 Steve



 I've also captured my notes at
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/More_details_on_GeoBase_import_processand
 fixed minor details in
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Geobase_NRN_-_OSM_Map_Feature. If  
 people
 think the additional notes are useful, I can merge this info into the
 description on the main Geobase import page.

 BTW, I've compared the NRN data to Canvec, and found that NRN data  
 is more
 up to date (some new streets are only present in NRN).

 Michael.



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Re: [Talk-ca] 092g07 imported and uploaded

2009-06-01 Thread Richard Weait
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 11:08 +0100, SteveC wrote:
 Stupid question, you guys importing addressing too?

The Canadian government data does not include addressing information for
all jurisdictions.  This area (British Columbia) has no addressing
available[1]. 

The earlier import in Alberta does claim block face address data but my
quick look at Fairview Alberta does not show the addressing data.  It
does have the source uuid so perhaps we can get the addressing on the
next pass.  

[1] http://geobase.ca/geobase/en/data/nrn/status.html 


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Re: [Talk-ca] 092g07 imported and uploaded

2009-06-01 Thread SteveC
I think that'd be super cool.

On 1 Jun 2009, at 13:27, Richard Weait wrote:
 On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 11:08 +0100, SteveC wrote:
 Stupid question, you guys importing addressing too?

 The Canadian government data does not include addressing information  
 for
 all jurisdictions.  This area (British Columbia) has no addressing
 available[1].

 The earlier import in Alberta does claim block face address data but  
 my
 quick look at Fairview Alberta does not show the addressing data.  It
 does have the source uuid so perhaps we can get the addressing on the
 next pass.

 [1] http://geobase.ca/geobase/en/data/nrn/status.html


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Re: [Talk-ca] 092g07 imported and uploaded

2009-06-01 Thread Steve Singer
On Mon, 1 Jun 2009, SteveC wrote:

 Stupid question, you guys importing addressing too?

Not yet.

A few provinces have address data as part of GeoBase (but most don't). 
However the StatsCan data does include block face addresses for all the 
provinces.

We've talked about importing offset address interpolation ways, someone just 
needs to write a script to do it. (might not happen until the base roads are 
imported in all the provinces, but on the todo list)

Steve

  
 On 31 May 2009, at 21:38, Michael Barabanov wrote:

  It is nice to see more people importing the GeoBase data.  Are you going 
 to be doing more areas in BC?
 
 Yes, starting with adjacent areas to south and east.
 
 Michael.
 
 On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Steve Singer ssinger...@sympatico.ca 
 wrote:
 On Sun, 31 May 2009, Michael Barabanov wrote:
 
 
 This includes parts of Burnaby, North Vancouver, Coquitlam, Port Coquitlam,
 Port Moody. See on OSM:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-123minlat=49.25maxlon=-122.5maxlat=49.5box=yes
 
 Looks good.
 
 It is nice to see more people importing the GeoBase data.  Are you going to 
 be doing more areas in BC?
 
 Steve
 
 
 
 I've also captured my notes at
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/More_details_on_GeoBase_import_processand
 fixed minor details in
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Geobase_NRN_-_OSM_Map_Feature. If people
 think the additional notes are useful, I can merge this info into the
 description on the main Geobase import page.
 
 BTW, I've compared the NRN data to Canvec, and found that NRN data is more
 up to date (some new streets are only present in NRN).
 
 Michael.
 
 
 
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Re: [Talk-ca] 092g07 imported and uploaded

2009-06-01 Thread Austin Henry
- Michael Barabanov arranged a host of electrons thusly: -
[snip]

 I've also captured my notes at
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/More_details_on_GeoBase_import_processand
 fixed minor details in
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Geobase_NRN_-_OSM_Map_Feature. If people
 think the additional notes are useful, I can merge this info into the
 description on the main Geobase import page.

Oh, sweet.  I was just working on getting the postgres things working
(having tried to do various bits previously with osmosis, and having
realised that it's not up to dealing with the NRN data).  Those
instructions are really helpful.  I had gotten to importing the road
segment data, and was flailing a bit :)

So, thanks, and please do merge your notes.  They'll prove useful to
anyone else who hasn't played with this stuff before.

I'm thinking about doing an import for BC's south okanagan (tiles
082E05, 082E12, possibly 082E04).

cheers,
Austin 

-- 
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Set a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

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Re: [Talk-ca] 092g07 imported and uploaded

2009-06-01 Thread Austin Henry
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 14:36 -0700, Sam Vekemans wrote:

(Argh! For some reason i don't get the talk-ca mailing list messages as
they happen, only when the build list arrives with 10 or so messages,
anyone know how to fix that) 
 
Sam, this is usually called digest mode.  You should be able to change
your settings at http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca.  

[snip]

 The canvec2osm script is  STILL in BETA, this the tags that have been
 chosen can still be fixed, with out that much trouble. Which is why im
 not broadcasting the fact that some samples are available. (if there's
 an error, and the tile is already loaded. .. it's hard to manually fix
 it.)
[snip]
And finally, I hope you all underrstand the reasoning for me not
releasing the BETA script until all the bugs are taken care of.
(fortunatly for me, it's seems that more peope are anxtious for the
roads than everything else. :)
 
You've probably heard the open source maxim: release early, release
often.  You might get some useful feedback on the source if you did.
Food for thought -- I'm not going to push someone to release code
before they feel it's ready for public consumption.  

Here's the 092c13 ucluet, BC area now.
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.9576lon=-125.5573zoom=12layers=B000FTF
 

Wow, that really changes the look of the map.  My only question is about
what happens to the straight line border at the edge of the tile when
you go to import the next one.  Do the areas get joined up, or are there
incident borders over the length of the area?  If the latter is the
case, do the folks who know about these things think it would be hard to
de-duplicate them later (or does it even matter?) so that the (eg wooded
area) can be interpreted properly?

Looks good though, to my eye.

cheers,
Austin.

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Re: [Talk-ca] 092g07 imported and uploaded

2009-05-31 Thread Michael Barabanov
Looks like the URL got botched. Here it is again

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/More_details_on_GeoBase_import_process

This includes parts of Burnaby, North Vancouver, Coquitlam, Port Coquitlam,
 Port Moody. See on OSM:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-123minlat=49.25maxlon=-122.5maxlat=49.5box=yes

 I've also captured my notes at
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/More_details_on_GeoBase_import_processand 
 fixed minor details in
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Geobase_NRN_-_OSM_Map_Feature. If
 people think the additional notes are useful, I can merge this info into the
 description on the main Geobase import page.

 BTW, I've compared the NRN data to Canvec, and found that NRN data is more
 up to date (some new streets are only present in NRN).

 Michael.

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Re: [Talk-ca] 092g07 imported and uploaded

2009-05-31 Thread Michael Barabanov
 It is nice to see more people importing the GeoBase data.  Are you going
to be doing more areas in BC?

Yes, starting with adjacent areas to south and east.

Michael.

On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Steve Singer ssinger...@sympatico.cawrote:

 On Sun, 31 May 2009, Michael Barabanov wrote:


  This includes parts of Burnaby, North Vancouver, Coquitlam, Port
 Coquitlam,
 Port Moody. See on OSM:

 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-123minlat=49.25maxlon=-122.5maxlat=49.5box=yes


 Looks good.

 It is nice to see more people importing the GeoBase data.  Are you going to
 be doing more areas in BC?

 Steve



 I've also captured my notes at

 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/More_details_on_GeoBase_import_processand
 fixed minor details in
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Geobase_NRN_-_OSM_Map_Feature. If
 people
 think the additional notes are useful, I can merge this info into the
 description on the main Geobase import page.

 BTW, I've compared the NRN data to Canvec, and found that NRN data is more
 up to date (some new streets are only present in NRN).

 Michael.



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