Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Walsall mapping party
Matthijs, Not sure if it was just you and I mapping tonight? hopefully there will be others at the pub to join you. Unfortunately I now can’t stay late so I plan to do a little mapping as planned but will not now make it to the pub afterwards unfortunately. Cheers Andy From: Rob Nickerson [mailto:rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com] Sent: 02 July 2014 19:16 To: Matthijs Melissen Cc: talk-gb-westmidlands; Andy Robinson Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Walsall mapping party I cannot make it this month as I'm stuck at a work event. Was hoping to get some mapping done here but looks like its going to be long days :-( Rob On 2 Jul 2014 18:53, Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl wrote: On 2 July 2014 12:39, Andy Robinson ajrli...@gmail.com wrote: I’ll be mapping an area on the east side, either just inside the ring road, if I get a chance to add some buildings before Thursday, or just outside the ring road if not (as I can clean up Mike Duffy’s prior tracing). Ok, then I will follow up Brian's work in the town centre. -- Matthijs ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-GB] Newbie hello
Hi all, Just joined the mailing list. I've been editing small bits of data here and there for a while, although I'm still a newbie at this. I work for traveline south east anglia and, along with colleagues in some other traveline regions, we have just adopted OSM as our base mapping layer. I will undoubtedly be more active now as we look to add a number of bus lanes / bus gates where these aren't already in the data, and I will no doubt be trespassing on your time asking a number of dumb newbie-type questions (in the newbie mailing list, naturally!) Cheers Stuart --- Stuart Reynolds traveline south east anglia ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Newbie hello
Marvellous Stuart! Glad to have you aboard. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 3 July 2014 16:02, Stuart Reynolds stu...@travelinesoutheast.org.uk wrote: Hi all, Just joined the mailing list. I’ve been editing small bits of data here and there for a while, although I’m still a newbie at this. I work for traveline south east anglia and, along with colleagues in some other traveline regions, we have just adopted OSM as our base mapping layer. I will undoubtedly be more active now as we look to add a number of bus lanes / bus gates where these aren’t already in the data, and I will no doubt be trespassing on your time asking a number of dumb newbie-type questions (in the newbie mailing list, naturally!) Cheers Stuart --- Stuart Reynolds traveline south east anglia ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Getting Highway Agency information into OSM
Hi, I have been talking to the Highways Agency who are keen to get more recent changes on OSM. They want to get all the new roads added and therefore added to the routers. (the initial contact was http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=25553 if you want a little background) Things like: http://www.highways.gov.uk/roads/road-projects/A23-Handcross-to-Warninglid As contact has been made I have been discussing how best to get the plans of the works and the proper dialogue for the relevant changes (e.g. more interested in new roads rather than minor works/roadworks and road widening) and a timeline (project under construction now, project 2 completed, etc) I was hoping to upload these plans somewhere so they could be traced by people. The first thing I am worried about is the copyright of the various plans. Some/many seem to be derived from OS maps. Now I am no expert on the copyright situation here and dialogue is difficult they know little about OSM really. He just said we release the plans and they are public domain. Now they apparently have hundreds of plans. And only choose to release 1 on the website (if at all) these can be http://www.highways.gov.uk/publications/a23-handcross-to-warninglid-plan-of-approved-scheme/ http://www.highways.gov.uk/publications/a45a46-tollbar-end-improvement-proposed-scheme-plan/ We could in theory get access to other plans of the works. Does anyone know what legally I can use (really so I/we can republish/upload it so we can use them as imagery)? Would plan derived from the current OS map we can use be ok? Are those more detailed ones ok? I know legal stuff is a minefield but I am hoping someone can point me in the correct direction. Once the legal hurdle has been overcome the idea is to setup a process stream so they can let me/us know what is happening (a simple spreadsheet or something) and get it added to OSM quickly. I have never dealt with any organisation before for getting things into OSM so I am a little lost on the best way to proceed so any advice/help will be useful. Cheers, John ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Getting Highway Agency information into OSM
On 3 July 2014 17:51, John Baker rovas...@hotmail.com wrote: He just said we release the plans and they are public domain. Public Domain (British English, especially Government and in the Courts): Information known by the public, could be under any kind of copyright Public Domain (US English): Information available for unrestricted reuse. So you could say The contents of all the Harry Potter books are in the Public Domain and in the UK that just means the general public knows what's in the books, rather than anyone having permission to upload them to Project Gutenberg :-) Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Getting Highway Agency information into OSM
On 03/07/14 17:51, John Baker wrote: The first thing I am worried about is the copyright of the various plans. Some/many seem to be derived from OS maps. A legitimate concern. Now I am no expert on the copyright situation here and dialogue is difficult they know little about OSM really. He just said we release the plans and they are public domain. There is no mechanism in the UK for a body like the Highways Agency to release data as PD. That is a mechanism used in countries like the US. In the UK the info would have to be licensed using a specific licence, such as the Open Government Licence. If the plans are based on OS maps then OS would have to agree to release this, according to OS's interpretation of copyright law. OS probably will not agree to this, but it is worth asking :-). Without a suitably agreed licence we cannot trace such plans into OSM. You could visit the site and get GPS traces photos to add such works to OSM, which is usually what happens as soon as a new road gets opened. I'd be interested if the Highway's Agency have opened new roads and they are not included in OSM very soon after. That seems to me to be something we are pretty good at. -- Cheers, Chris user: chillly ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Getting Highway Agency information into OSM
Yeah I know he probably didn't understand the implications/view points on it. I should have explained that better, rather than just ... Anyway he was talking about open source, etc and he meant it in the (modern) open source style of public domain. But the point was I didn't believe him that we could just republish it. So I am wanting to know what we can use. (actually the guy I spoke to didn't sound like he was even from the UK... - Australian maybe but that is whole different story) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 18:05:55 +0100 Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Getting Highway Agency information into OSM From: gravityst...@gmail.com To: rovas...@hotmail.com CC: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org On 3 July 2014 17:51, John Baker rovas...@hotmail.com wrote: He just said we release the plans and they are public domain. Public Domain (British English, especially Government and in the Courts): Information known by the public, could be under any kind of copyright Public Domain (US English): Information available for unrestricted reuse. So you could say The contents of all the Harry Potter books are in the Public Domain and in the UK that just means the general public knows what's in the books, rather than anyone having permission to upload them to Project Gutenberg :-) Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Newbie hello
Welcome onboard. Gianfra On 3 July 2014 17:11, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Marvellous Stuart! Glad to have you aboard. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 3 July 2014 16:02, Stuart Reynolds stu...@travelinesoutheast.org.uk wrote: Hi all, Just joined the mailing list. I’ve been editing small bits of data here and there for a while, although I’m still a newbie at this. I work for traveline south east anglia and, along with colleagues in some other traveline regions, we have just adopted OSM as our base mapping layer. I will undoubtedly be more active now as we look to add a number of bus lanes / bus gates where these aren’t already in the data, and I will no doubt be trespassing on your time asking a number of dumb newbie-type questions (in the newbie mailing list, naturally!) Cheers Stuart --- Stuart Reynolds traveline south east anglia ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Getting Highway Agency information into OSM
Yeah I know we are pretty good at adding them. But this discussion started with the HA because there were roads that were not on OSM. It was this project that he was working on. http://www.highways.gov.uk/roads/road-projects/a23-handcross-to-warninglid/ So I personally added this in a rough way based on the descriptions from him who was on site at the time and the plans that were there (I didn't trace them just looked at them). I don't (for a change) want to get into conversation about tracing imagery vs. doing it by hand. The point is what can we use. My thought were that if there plans were based on the OS streetview (rather than the more detailed ones) then we could use them. Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 18:23:34 +0100 From: o...@raggedred.net To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Getting Highway Agency information into OSM On 03/07/14 17:51, John Baker wrote: The first thing I am worried about is the copyright of the various plans. Some/many seem to be derived from OS maps. A legitimate concern. Now I am no expert on the copyright situation here and dialogue is difficult they know little about OSM really. He just said we release the plans and they are public domain. There is no mechanism in the UK for a body like the Highways Agency to release data as PD. That is a mechanism used in countries like the US. In the UK the info would have to be licensed using a specific licence, such as the Open Government Licence. If the plans are based on OS maps then OS would have to agree to release this, according to OS's interpretation of copyright law. OS probably will not agree to this, but it is worth asking :-). Without a suitably agreed licence we cannot trace such plans into OSM. You could visit the site and get GPS traces photos to add such works to OSM, which is usually what happens as soon as a new road gets opened. I'd be interested if the Highway's Agency have opened new roads and they are not included in OSM very soon after. That seems to me to be something we are pretty good at. -- Cheers, Chris user: chillly ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Getting Highway Agency information into OSM
You know, rather than thinking about automatically importing any of their data into OSM, my intuition is that given the concerns about OS copyright, plus how much OSMers enjoy mapping new features, I'd suggest using their data to create a web feed of Hot new roads for mappers to go and survey! - I bet they'd all be mapped within a week ;) Dan 2014-07-03 18:41 GMT+01:00 John Baker rovas...@hotmail.com: Yeah I know we are pretty good at adding them. But this discussion started with the HA because there were roads that were not on OSM. It was this project that he was working on. http://www.highways.gov.uk/roads/road-projects/a23-handcross-to-warninglid/ So I personally added this in a rough way based on the descriptions from him who was on site at the time and the plans that were there (I didn't trace them just looked at them). I don't (for a change) want to get into conversation about tracing imagery vs. doing it by hand. The point is what can we use. My thought were that if there plans were based on the OS streetview (rather than the more detailed ones) then we could use them. Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 18:23:34 +0100 From: o...@raggedred.net To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Getting Highway Agency information into OSM On 03/07/14 17:51, John Baker wrote: The first thing I am worried about is the copyright of the various plans. Some/many seem to be derived from OS maps. A legitimate concern. Now I am no expert on the copyright situation here and dialogue is difficult they know little about OSM really. He just said we release the plans and they are public domain. There is no mechanism in the UK for a body like the Highways Agency to release data as PD. That is a mechanism used in countries like the US. In the UK the info would have to be licensed using a specific licence, such as the Open Government Licence. If the plans are based on OS maps then OS would have to agree to release this, according to OS's interpretation of copyright law. OS probably will not agree to this, but it is worth asking :-). Without a suitably agreed licence we cannot trace such plans into OSM. You could visit the site and get GPS traces photos to add such works to OSM, which is usually what happens as soon as a new road gets opened. I'd be interested if the Highway's Agency have opened new roads and they are not included in OSM very soon after. That seems to me to be something we are pretty good at. -- Cheers, Chris user: chillly ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Getting Highway Agency information into OSM
Maybe a simple method is to use the OSM notes system, which is what the feature was designed for? Shaun On 3 Jul 2014, at 19:10, Dan S danstowell+...@gmail.com wrote: You know, rather than thinking about automatically importing any of their data into OSM, my intuition is that given the concerns about OS copyright, plus how much OSMers enjoy mapping new features, I'd suggest using their data to create a web feed of Hot new roads for mappers to go and survey! - I bet they'd all be mapped within a week ;) Dan 2014-07-03 18:41 GMT+01:00 John Baker rovas...@hotmail.com: Yeah I know we are pretty good at adding them. But this discussion started with the HA because there were roads that were not on OSM. It was this project that he was working on. http://www.highways.gov.uk/roads/road-projects/a23-handcross-to-warninglid/ So I personally added this in a rough way based on the descriptions from him who was on site at the time and the plans that were there (I didn't trace them just looked at them). I don't (for a change) want to get into conversation about tracing imagery vs. doing it by hand. The point is what can we use. My thought were that if there plans were based on the OS streetview (rather than the more detailed ones) then we could use them. Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 18:23:34 +0100 From: o...@raggedred.net To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Getting Highway Agency information into OSM On 03/07/14 17:51, John Baker wrote: The first thing I am worried about is the copyright of the various plans. Some/many seem to be derived from OS maps. A legitimate concern. Now I am no expert on the copyright situation here and dialogue is difficult they know little about OSM really. He just said we release the plans and they are public domain. There is no mechanism in the UK for a body like the Highways Agency to release data as PD. That is a mechanism used in countries like the US. In the UK the info would have to be licensed using a specific licence, such as the Open Government Licence. If the plans are based on OS maps then OS would have to agree to release this, according to OS's interpretation of copyright law. OS probably will not agree to this, but it is worth asking :-). Without a suitably agreed licence we cannot trace such plans into OSM. You could visit the site and get GPS traces photos to add such works to OSM, which is usually what happens as soon as a new road gets opened. I'd be interested if the Highway's Agency have opened new roads and they are not included in OSM very soon after. That seems to me to be something we are pretty good at. -- Cheers, Chris user: chillly ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Getting Highway Agency information into OSM
I am a little surprised at the negativity. I would have thought it would be welcomed that the highway agency want to engage with OSM to help get the most up-to-date map available. I thought we prided ourselves of having the most up-to-date map. We currently have roads under construction (and proposed but I have avoided adding these with my chats with the HA as things can change) in OSM. I am confused as how you think people get these into OSM in the first place. Often they already use sources (I see it in the source tags often and I have been looking over the last few weeks at many of these proposed and constructed roads to get a feel about what the data is like) like the highway agency for England for the major roads. What I want to do is streamline and improve this process as mappers in the UK (it might not be you) do use these resources already. And often they guess from the information available if proper detailed aligned detailed plans existed that would be much better and easier too. Maybe these mappers are not on this list. *shrug* If there was a system/process in place that had accurate plans (allowed copyright) and timelines from an authorised source when construction began, when the road is opened, etc. We could use this. How we use it is a different matter - maybe someone wants to survey it, maybe someone wants to trace it. I have visions of mappers jumping fences and running under the cover of darkness down half built roads with their expensive GPS devices just to get the info in OSM. Personally I think already showing on the map a road under construction is way more informative that simply adding a note. Once it opens then someone can make it 'live'. I am not automatically importing anything here. It is not about that. Maybe it is just down to how much OSMers enjoy mapping new features in their area. From: sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 20:30:15 +0100 To: danstowell+...@gmail.com CC: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Getting Highway Agency information into OSM Maybe a simple method is to use the OSM notes system, which is what the feature was designed for? Shaun On 3 Jul 2014, at 19:10, Dan S danstowell+...@gmail.com wrote: You know, rather than thinking about automatically importing any of their data into OSM, my intuition is that given the concerns about OS copyright, plus how much OSMers enjoy mapping new features, I'd suggest using their data to create a web feed of Hot new roads for mappers to go and survey! - I bet they'd all be mapped within a week ;) Dan 2014-07-03 18:41 GMT+01:00 John Baker rovas...@hotmail.com: Yeah I know we are pretty good at adding them. But this discussion started with the HA because there were roads that were not on OSM. It was this project that he was working on. http://www.highways.gov.uk/roads/road-projects/a23-handcross-to-warninglid/ So I personally added this in a rough way based on the descriptions from him who was on site at the time and the plans that were there (I didn't trace them just looked at them). I don't (for a change) want to get into conversation about tracing imagery vs. doing it by hand. The point is what can we use. My thought were that if there plans were based on the OS streetview (rather than the more detailed ones) then we could use them. Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 18:23:34 +0100 From: o...@raggedred.net To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Getting Highway Agency information into OSM On 03/07/14 17:51, John Baker wrote: The first thing I am worried about is the copyright of the various plans. Some/many seem to be derived from OS maps. A legitimate concern. Now I am no expert on the copyright situation here and dialogue is difficult they know little about OSM really. He just said we release the plans and they are public domain. There is no mechanism in the UK for a body like the Highways Agency to release data as PD. That is a mechanism used in countries like the US. In the UK the info would have to be licensed using a specific licence, such as the Open Government Licence. If the plans are based on OS maps then OS would have to agree to release this, according to OS's interpretation of copyright law. OS probably will not agree to this, but it is worth asking :-). Without a suitably agreed licence we cannot trace such plans into OSM. You could visit the site and get GPS traces photos to add such works to OSM, which is usually what happens as soon as a new road gets opened. I'd be interested if the Highway's Agency have opened new roads and they are not included in OSM very soon after. That seems to me to be something we are pretty good at. -- Cheers, Chris user: chillly ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org
Re: [Talk-GB] Getting Highway Agency information into OSM
OK sorry, I shouldn't have said automatically importing, that was a misrepresentation. But I didn't intend negativity, I thought I was offering a positive suggestion of how to work with their data! Yes of course the news in your email was great to see, it would definitely be lovely to have their plans as an imagery layer. And good point about the under-construction roads. Dan 2014-07-03 21:36 GMT+01:00 John Baker rovas...@hotmail.com: I am a little surprised at the negativity. I would have thought it would be welcomed that the highway agency want to engage with OSM to help get the most up-to-date map available. I thought we prided ourselves of having the most up-to-date map. We currently have roads under construction (and proposed but I have avoided adding these with my chats with the HA as things can change) in OSM. I am confused as how you think people get these into OSM in the first place. Often they already use sources (I see it in the source tags often and I have been looking over the last few weeks at many of these proposed and constructed roads to get a feel about what the data is like) like the highway agency for England for the major roads. What I want to do is streamline and improve this process as mappers in the UK (it might not be you) do use these resources already. And often they guess from the information available if proper detailed aligned detailed plans existed that would be much better and easier too. Maybe these mappers are not on this list. *shrug* If there was a system/process in place that had accurate plans (allowed copyright) and timelines from an authorised source when construction began, when the road is opened, etc. We could use this. How we use it is a different matter - maybe someone wants to survey it, maybe someone wants to trace it. I have visions of mappers jumping fences and running under the cover of darkness down half built roads with their expensive GPS devices just to get the info in OSM. Personally I think already showing on the map a road under construction is way more informative that simply adding a note. Once it opens then someone can make it 'live'. I am not automatically importing anything here. It is not about that. Maybe it is just down to how much OSMers enjoy mapping new features in their area. From: sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 20:30:15 +0100 To: danstowell+...@gmail.com CC: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Getting Highway Agency information into OSM Maybe a simple method is to use the OSM notes system, which is what the feature was designed for? Shaun On 3 Jul 2014, at 19:10, Dan S danstowell+...@gmail.com wrote: You know, rather than thinking about automatically importing any of their data into OSM, my intuition is that given the concerns about OS copyright, plus how much OSMers enjoy mapping new features, I'd suggest using their data to create a web feed of Hot new roads for mappers to go and survey! - I bet they'd all be mapped within a week ;) Dan 2014-07-03 18:41 GMT+01:00 John Baker rovas...@hotmail.com: Yeah I know we are pretty good at adding them. But this discussion started with the HA because there were roads that were not on OSM. It was this project that he was working on. http://www.highways.gov.uk/roads/road-projects/a23-handcross-to-warninglid/ So I personally added this in a rough way based on the descriptions from him who was on site at the time and the plans that were there (I didn't trace them just looked at them). I don't (for a change) want to get into conversation about tracing imagery vs. doing it by hand. The point is what can we use. My thought were that if there plans were based on the OS streetview (rather than the more detailed ones) then we could use them. Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 18:23:34 +0100 From: o...@raggedred.net To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Getting Highway Agency information into OSM On 03/07/14 17:51, John Baker wrote: The first thing I am worried about is the copyright of the various plans. Some/many seem to be derived from OS maps. A legitimate concern. Now I am no expert on the copyright situation here and dialogue is difficult they know little about OSM really. He just said we release the plans and they are public domain. There is no mechanism in the UK for a body like the Highways Agency to release data as PD. That is a mechanism used in countries like the US. In the UK the info would have to be licensed using a specific licence, such as the Open Government Licence. If the plans are based on OS maps then OS would have to agree to release this, according to OS's interpretation of copyright law. OS probably will not agree to this, but it is worth asking :-). Without a suitably agreed licence we cannot trace such plans into OSM. You could visit the site and get GPS traces photos
