Re: [Talk-GB] Fw: Appeal for Help - Amending a Route Relation - NCN Route 51

2019-12-20 Thread Warin

On 21/12/19 02:55, Peter Neale via Talk-GB wrote:
Having unexpectedly found myself with a spare hour,  I have had a go 
at amending NCN 51 in central Milton Keynes.


There are 3 Changesets involved:

#78646743. The main changes. I marked this to be reviewed,  but I do 
hope that nobody wants it reverted because I got a bit carried away.  
As part of the edit I had to correct a one-way road that isn't really 
one-way,  but I then carried on resolving issues flagged by the iD 
editor; sorry!


#78651993. Mopping up. After the main edit, I spotted a few ways that 
I had not removed from the relation, so removed them here.


#78647795. I have flagged some ways with "fixme". They were part of 
the old route, but now form a spur off the main route. I have asked 
Sustrans whether they consider the spur to be part of NCN 51 and await 
their response. I could tag them with "approach", but I'm not clear 
whether that would mean that all >1000 other ways in the relation 
would then have to be tagged "main ".


I would think 'main'; is the default role - so no need to state it.

And yes I would add the roll 'approach' to the spur off to the train 
station.





Open for comments / suggestions.

Regards,
Peter

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*From:* "Peter Neale" 
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*Subject:* Fw: [Talk-GB] Appeal for Help - Amending a Route
Relation - NCN Route 51
Many thanks to @Richard Fairhurst, @Warin and @ Paul Berry for
their encouragement and help.  I will have a go at making the
amendments using the iD Editor.

I'm not sure how soon that will happen, though, as I hear that
Christmas is coming and Grandads like me are meant to spend time
with their families, not on the computer.

Before I start, I have one more question:

@Richard Fairhurst said, "It's more important that the route is
unambiguous, i.e. the member ways all join to form a single route
without unnecessary branches and loops."

However, the Sustrans map shows some dead-end branches (presumably
to link into other infrastructure, such as roads and other
cyclepaths).  There are 2 that are relevant here; one is marked on
the ground (probably because it was part of the old route), but
the other is not.  I do not propose to include the unmarked one,
but what about the one that is marked?  Should I include it, or not?

Regards,
Peter





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[Talk-GB] Fw: Appeal for Help - Amending a Route Relation - NCN Route 51

2019-12-20 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
Having unexpectedly found myself with a spare hour,  I have had a go at 
amending NCN 51 in central Milton Keynes. 
There are 3 Changesets involved:
#78646743. The main changes. I marked this to be reviewed,  but I do hope that 
nobody wants it reverted because I got a bit carried away.  As part of the edit 
I had to correct a one-way road that isn't really one-way,  but I then carried 
on resolving issues flagged by the iD editor; sorry!
#78651993.  Mopping up. After the main edit, I spotted a few ways that I had 
not removed from the relation, so removed them here. 
#78647795. I have flagged some ways with "fixme". They were part of the old 
route, but now form a spur off the main route. I have asked Sustrans whether 
they consider the spur to be part of NCN 51 and await their response. I could 
tag them with "approach", but I'm not clear whether that would mean that all 
>1000 other ways in the relation would then have to be tagged "main ".
Open for comments / suggestions.
Regards, Peter

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"Talk-gb OSM List"  Cc:  Sent: Thu, 19 Dec 2019 at 
13:54 Subject: Fw: [Talk-GB] Appeal for Help - Amending a Route Relation - NCN 
Route 51  Many thanks to @Richard Fairhurst, @Warin and @ Paul Berry for their 
encouragement and help.  I will have a go at making the amendments using the iD 
Editor.  
I'm not sure how soon that will happen, though, as I hear that Christmas is 
coming and Grandads like me are meant to spend time with their families, not on 
the computer.
Before I start, I have one more question:
@Richard Fairhurst said, "It's more important that the route is unambiguous,  
i.e. the member ways all join to form a single route without unnecessary 
branches and loops."
However, the Sustrans map shows some dead-end branches (presumably to link into 
other infrastructure, such as roads and other cyclepaths).  There are 2 that 
are relevant here; one is marked on the ground (probably because it was part of 
the old route), but the other is not.  I do not propose to include the unmarked 
one, but what about the one that is marked?  Should I include it, or not?  
Regards,Peter



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Re: [Talk-GB] Fw: Appeal for Help - Amending a Route Relation - NCN Route 51

2019-12-19 Thread Warin

On 20/12/19 00:54, Peter Neale via Talk-GB wrote:
Many thanks to @Richard Fairhurst, @Warin and @ Paul Berry for their 
encouragement and help.  I will have a go at making the amendments 
using the iD Editor.


I'm not sure how soon that will happen, though, as I hear that 
Christmas is coming and Grandads like me are meant to spend time with 
their families, not on the computer.


Before I start, I have one more question:

@Richard Fairhurst said, "It's more important that the route is 
unambiguous,  i.e. the member ways all join to form a single route 
without unnecessary branches and loops."


However, the Sustrans map shows some dead-end branches (presumably to 
link into other infrastructure, such as roads and other cyclepaths).  
There are 2 that are relevant here; one is marked on the ground 
(probably because it was part of the old route), but the other is 
not.  I do not propose to include the unmarked one, but what about the 
one that is marked?  Should I include it, or not?




Some discussion on the tagging list on this... a read of
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/hiking_trail_relation_roles

may help.
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[Talk-GB] Fw: Appeal for Help - Amending a Route Relation - NCN Route 51

2019-12-19 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
Many thanks to @Richard Fairhurst, @Warin and @ Paul Berry for their 
encouragement and help.  I will have a go at making the amendments using the iD 
Editor.  
I'm not sure how soon that will happen, though, as I hear that Christmas is 
coming and Grandads like me are meant to spend time with their families, not on 
the computer.
Before I start, I have one more question:
@Richard Fairhurst said, "It's more important that the route is unambiguous,  
i.e. the member ways all join to form a single route without unnecessary 
branches and loops."
However, the Sustrans map shows some dead-end branches (presumably to link into 
other infrastructure, such as roads and other cyclepaths).  There are 2 that 
are relevant here; one is marked on the ground (probably because it was part of 
the old route), but the other is not.  I do not propose to include the unmarked 
one, but what about the one that is marked?  Should I include it, or not?  
Regards,Peter


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