Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging a St John's Ambulance base

2019-07-11 Thread Ben Proctor
Thanks both

On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 at 21:53, Peter Neale via Talk-GB <
talk-gb@openstreetmap.org> wrote:

> ...Or, looking at their website, it is a charity, so perhaps that makes it
> a "social facility"?
>
> Oh BTW, it is "St John Ambulance", not "St John's Ambulance" (I don't know
> why, but it is...)
>
> See St John Ambulance - the nation’s leading first aid charity
> 
>
> St John Ambulance - the nation’s leading first aid charity
>
> First aid is a simple skill with an incredible impact. We want everyone to
> learn it, so that they can be the dif...
> 
>
> Regards,
> Peter Neale
> t: 01908 309666
> m: 07968 341930
> skype: nealepb
>
>
> On Wednesday, 10 July 2019, 21:20:36 BST, Peter Neale via Talk-GB <
> talk-gb@openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>
>
> Personally, I would have thought of it as a club, in which first aid is
> taught, as a hobby ( No offence intended to any St John volunteers)
>
> Peter
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
>
> On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 at 20:30, Mark Goodge
>  wrote:
>
>
> On 10/07/2019 19:08, Ben Proctor wrote:
> > Hello mapping people
> >
> > There is a building and yard in Hereford used by St John's Ambulance.
> > The building functions as a meeting venue (like a scout hut but for St
> > John's) and some vehicles are stored in the yard.
> >
> > https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/52.06051/-2.71419
> >
> > How would you tag this?
> >
> > It's currently amenity=doctors which doesn't seem right.
> > emergency=ambulance_station doesn't seem to describe this use.
> >
> > I was heading down amenity=community_centre route but I'm not sure
> > that's right either.
> >
> > A quick search for St John's Ambulance reveals a wider range of
> > approaches in other areas.
>
> I'd be inclined to go for community centre, in this case. It isn't an
> emergency ambulance station, which is what the
> emergency=ambulance_station tag is for (and, in any case, is rapidly
> becoming obsolete with the new distributed means of organising an
> ambulance service), and it isn't a doctor or a clinic either. And the
> main purpose of the building (as opposed to the yard) is for things like
> first aid training (both for St John volunteers themselves and the wider
> community). So a community centre is probably closest.
>
> Mark
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> Mark
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Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging a St John's Ambulance base

2019-07-10 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
...Or, looking at their website, it is a charity, so perhaps that makes it a 
"social facility"?
Oh BTW, it is "St John Ambulance", not "St John's Ambulance" (I don't know why, 
but it is...)
See St John Ambulance - the nation’s leading first aid charity

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St John Ambulance - the nation’s leading first aid charity

First aid is a simple skill with an incredible impact. We want everyone to 
learn it, so that they can be the dif...
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Regards,
 Peter Neale 
t: 01908 309666 
m: 07968 341930 
skype: nealepb 

On Wednesday, 10 July 2019, 21:20:36 BST, Peter Neale via Talk-GB 
 wrote:  
 
 Personally, I would have thought of it as a club, in which first aid is 
taught, as a hobby ( No offence intended to any St John volunteers)
Peter

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 at 20:30, Mark Goodge wrote:   

On 10/07/2019 19:08, Ben Proctor wrote:
> Hello mapping people
> 
> There is a building and yard in Hereford used by St John's Ambulance. 
> The building functions as a meeting venue (like a scout hut but for St 
> John's) and some vehicles are stored in the yard.
> 
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/52.06051/-2.71419
> 
> How would you tag this?
> 
> It's currently amenity=doctors which doesn't seem right. 
> emergency=ambulance_station doesn't seem to describe this use.
> 
> I was heading down amenity=community_centre route but I'm not sure 
> that's right either.
> 
> A quick search for St John's Ambulance reveals a wider range of 
> approaches in other areas.

I'd be inclined to go for community centre, in this case. It isn't an 
emergency ambulance station, which is what the 
emergency=ambulance_station tag is for (and, in any case, is rapidly 
becoming obsolete with the new distributed means of organising an 
ambulance service), and it isn't a doctor or a clinic either. And the 
main purpose of the building (as opposed to the yard) is for things like 
first aid training (both for St John volunteers themselves and the wider 
community). So a community centre is probably closest.

Mark

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Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging a St John's Ambulance base

2019-07-10 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
Personally, I would have thought of it as a club, in which first aid is taught, 
as a hobby ( No offence intended to any St John volunteers)
Peter

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  On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 at 20:30, Mark Goodge wrote:   

On 10/07/2019 19:08, Ben Proctor wrote:
> Hello mapping people
> 
> There is a building and yard in Hereford used by St John's Ambulance. 
> The building functions as a meeting venue (like a scout hut but for St 
> John's) and some vehicles are stored in the yard.
> 
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/52.06051/-2.71419
> 
> How would you tag this?
> 
> It's currently amenity=doctors which doesn't seem right. 
> emergency=ambulance_station doesn't seem to describe this use.
> 
> I was heading down amenity=community_centre route but I'm not sure 
> that's right either.
> 
> A quick search for St John's Ambulance reveals a wider range of 
> approaches in other areas.

I'd be inclined to go for community centre, in this case. It isn't an 
emergency ambulance station, which is what the 
emergency=ambulance_station tag is for (and, in any case, is rapidly 
becoming obsolete with the new distributed means of organising an 
ambulance service), and it isn't a doctor or a clinic either. And the 
main purpose of the building (as opposed to the yard) is for things like 
first aid training (both for St John volunteers themselves and the wider 
community). So a community centre is probably closest.

Mark

Mark

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Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging a St John's Ambulance base

2019-07-10 Thread Mark Goodge



On 10/07/2019 19:08, Ben Proctor wrote:

Hello mapping people

There is a building and yard in Hereford used by St John's Ambulance. 
The building functions as a meeting venue (like a scout hut but for St 
John's) and some vehicles are stored in the yard.


https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/52.06051/-2.71419

How would you tag this?

It's currently amenity=doctors which doesn't seem right. 
emergency=ambulance_station doesn't seem to describe this use.


I was heading down amenity=community_centre route but I'm not sure 
that's right either.


A quick search for St John's Ambulance reveals a wider range of 
approaches in other areas.


I'd be inclined to go for community centre, in this case. It isn't an 
emergency ambulance station, which is what the 
emergency=ambulance_station tag is for (and, in any case, is rapidly 
becoming obsolete with the new distributed means of organising an 
ambulance service), and it isn't a doctor or a clinic either. And the 
main purpose of the building (as opposed to the yard) is for things like 
first aid training (both for St John volunteers themselves and the wider 
community). So a community centre is probably closest.


Mark

Mark

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[Talk-GB] Tagging a St John's Ambulance base

2019-07-10 Thread Ben Proctor
Hello mapping people

There is a building and yard in Hereford used by St John's Ambulance. The
building functions as a meeting venue (like a scout hut but for St John's)
and some vehicles are stored in the yard.

https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/52.06051/-2.71419

How would you tag this?

It's currently amenity=doctors which doesn't seem right.
emergency=ambulance_station doesn't seem to describe this use.

I was heading down amenity=community_centre route but I'm not sure that's
right either.

A quick search for St John's Ambulance reveals a wider range of approaches
in other areas.

Any suggestions?

Thanks
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