Re: [Talk-GB] YHA (England & Wales), Youth Hostel

[Adam Snape]

Of course, if they happen to have suitable GIS data for their locations and
were willing to allow us to reuse these and the details on their website
under the ODBL, then it would be a very helpful dataset. We could use it to
keep track of the frequent closur ahem... changes to the YHA network.

Regards,

Adam

On 4 April 2018 at 13:26, Adam Snape  wrote:

> +1
>
> Permission to add something to a map is certainly not the same as
> permission to release information under the ODBL, we need that explicitly
> stated.
>
> Also, how are you going to locate the hostels? I'm assuming you're
> armchair mapping, so how can you tell whether (or which) hostel mapped in
> OSM is the relevant YHA one? Any information derived from the Google maps
> on the YHA site is strictly unuseable, even with YHA's permission.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Adam Snape
>
> On 4 April 2018 at 13:08, Dan S  wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> "YHA (England & Wales)" would go in the "operator" field, not appended
>> to the "name". (I'm not sure which you were suggesting.)
>>
>> I'm pretty sure that the loose permission (that you quote) is not
>> technically enough to safely use the YHA's own list as a source of
>> data for OSM, though it seems they're likely to be brodly in favour.
>> With a bit more chat with them, and some reassurance that we're not
>> intending to infringe on their copyrights, you can probably get
>> something like an explicit permission to add the data to OSM under
>> ODBL.
>>
>> Best
>> Dan
>>
>>
>> 2018-04-04 12:39 GMT+01:00 David Vere :
>> > I've made an enquiry to YHA England & Wales and have been told that
>> while
>> >
>> > "names of the individual hostels and YHA (England & Wales) as well as
>> Youth
>> > Hostel are all copyrighted”
>> >
>> > they are
>> >
>> > "happy for you to use the names on a map"
>> >
>> > and will even supply a current list.
>> >
>> > Is there any objection to my attaching the YHA hostel name and "YHA
>> (England
>> > & Wales)" to the hostels that are on openstreetmap.
>> >
>> > David
>> >
>> >
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Re: [Talk-GB] YHA (England & Wales), Youth Hostel

[Adam Snape]

+1

Permission to add something to a map is certainly not the same as
permission to release information under the ODBL, we need that explicitly
stated.

Also, how are you going to locate the hostels? I'm assuming you're armchair
mapping, so how can you tell whether (or which) hostel mapped in OSM is the
relevant YHA one? Any information derived from the Google maps on the YHA
site is strictly unuseable, even with YHA's permission.

Kind regards,

Adam Snape

On 4 April 2018 at 13:08, Dan S  wrote:

> Hi
>
> "YHA (England & Wales)" would go in the "operator" field, not appended
> to the "name". (I'm not sure which you were suggesting.)
>
> I'm pretty sure that the loose permission (that you quote) is not
> technically enough to safely use the YHA's own list as a source of
> data for OSM, though it seems they're likely to be brodly in favour.
> With a bit more chat with them, and some reassurance that we're not
> intending to infringe on their copyrights, you can probably get
> something like an explicit permission to add the data to OSM under
> ODBL.
>
> Best
> Dan
>
>
> 2018-04-04 12:39 GMT+01:00 David Vere :
> > I've made an enquiry to YHA England & Wales and have been told that while
> >
> > "names of the individual hostels and YHA (England & Wales) as well as
> Youth
> > Hostel are all copyrighted”
> >
> > they are
> >
> > "happy for you to use the names on a map"
> >
> > and will even supply a current list.
> >
> > Is there any objection to my attaching the YHA hostel name and "YHA
> (England
> > & Wales)" to the hostels that are on openstreetmap.
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Talk-GB] YHA (England & Wales), Youth Hostel

[Dan S]

Hi

"YHA (England & Wales)" would go in the "operator" field, not appended
to the "name". (I'm not sure which you were suggesting.)

I'm pretty sure that the loose permission (that you quote) is not
technically enough to safely use the YHA's own list as a source of
data for OSM, though it seems they're likely to be brodly in favour.
With a bit more chat with them, and some reassurance that we're not
intending to infringe on their copyrights, you can probably get
something like an explicit permission to add the data to OSM under
ODBL.

Best
Dan


2018-04-04 12:39 GMT+01:00 David Vere :
> I've made an enquiry to YHA England & Wales and have been told that while
>
> "names of the individual hostels and YHA (England & Wales) as well as Youth
> Hostel are all copyrighted”
>
> they are
>
> "happy for you to use the names on a map"
>
> and will even supply a current list.
>
> Is there any objection to my attaching the YHA hostel name and "YHA (England
> & Wales)" to the hostels that are on openstreetmap.
>
> David
>
>
>
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[Talk-GB] YHA (England & Wales), Youth Hostel

[David Vere]

I've made an enquiry to YHA England & Wales and have been told that while

"names of the individual hostels and YHA (England & Wales) as well as Youth
Hostel are all copyrighted”

they are

"happy for you to use the names on a map"

and will even supply a current list.

Is there any objection to my attaching the YHA hostel name and "YHA
(England & Wales)" to the hostels that are on openstreetmap.

David
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