Re: [talk-ph] tagging questions
For animal husbandry, I think we can use livestock=cattle/poultry/fish/etc. So a chicken farm can be landuse=farm; livestock=poultry; poultry=chicken (as opposed to poultry=turkey/duck/etc.) On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 6:29 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Landuse - How to map adjacent landuse types? For those separated by roads, do we use the same nodes as the other landuse? I personally prefer to separate the landuse areas if there is a road but I'm open to other suggestions. If the landuses are separated by a fence (like between 2 subdivisions), we can use common nodes. If the landuses are separated by a road, the landuses should not touch each other nor the road. - Is it better to use relations? From a data perspective landuse polygons should be relation multipolygons however, the concept of using relations is very hard to teach for newbies? I think that relations are the future but simple polygons will do for the meantime. What tag to use for: - Fishponds (currently we use landuse=farm; crop=fish) There's landuse=pond: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dpond I would use this (landuse=pond) to tag the whole area that contains ponds. Individual ponds will be tagged as natural=water; water=pond crop=fish sounds wrong. We don't plant fish! - Poultry farms No idea Waterway tagging - Difference between rivers, streams and irrigation canals The definition on the OSM Wiki is that a stream can be jumped across by an able-bodied person. Otherwise it's a river. ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] tagging questions
On 2013-10-31 23:55, Ervin Malicdem wrote: /What tag to use for fish ponds./ As fish thrives in water i suggest natural:water ; crop=fish /Poultry farms/ landuse:farmland ; crop:chicken Thanks, that's useful. /Waterway tagging (suggestion) :/ Rivers: if the width of the flowing body of water seems to be wider than 50 meters and deeper than 10 meters streams: if smaller than my concept of a river irrigation canal: a stream if it is natural ; a drain if it is artificial Is this the canonical definition of a river? If it is, I need to redefine a lot of rivers! I tend to mark it as a river if it has a name that includes the word river or if most people refer to it as the river or sapa, but downgrade it to stream around the place it becomes so small that you can (easily) drive across it - where there is a ford. Admittedly, I drive across rivers too (at least my definition of river), but that's just because I like to play in water (and find it fascinating to get stuck occationally)... Would you say that here in Pampanga, it's pretty much only Pampanga river that is a river and that everything else is a stream? ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] tagging questions
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 6:29 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: Landuse - How to map adjacent landuse types? For those separated by roads, do we use the same nodes as the other landuse? I personally prefer to separate the landuse areas if there is a road but I'm open to other suggestions. If the landuses are separated by a fence (like between 2 subdivisions), we can use common nodes. If the landuses are separated by a road, the landuses should not touch each other nor the road. - Is it better to use relations? From a data perspective landuse polygons should be relation multipolygons however, the concept of using relations is very hard to teach for newbies? I think that relations are the future but simple polygons will do for the meantime. What tag to use for: - Fishponds (currently we use landuse=farm; crop=fish) There's landuse=pond: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dpond I would use this (landuse=pond) to tag the whole area that contains ponds. Individual ponds will be tagged as natural=water; water=pond crop=fish sounds wrong. We don't plant fish! - Poultry farms No idea Waterway tagging - Difference between rivers, streams and irrigation canals The definition on the OSM Wiki is that a stream can be jumped across by an able-bodied person. Otherwise it's a river. ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] tagging questions
I was trying to finish a couple tasks in the Candaba OSM Training and was wondering about heavy cloud cover in the imagery. Are we going to make assumptions if an area has heavy cloud cover? Im leaning towards no. id rather not tag something im not comfortable with. the closest solution i can make is a FIXME=resurvey or FIXME=resurvey - heavy cloud cover in imagery Thoughts? suggestions? Carlo. On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 11:55 PM, Ervin Malicdem schad...@gmail.com wrote: *How to map adjacent landuse types?* If the owner of the landuse separated by roads are different, it is appropriate to have them created as separate land use. If not, I suggest to have them treated as one, such as a residential area where you do not need to separate the residential area on both sides of the road just to give way for the road. But if this is water, it is fine to make them separate as a road is not possible in the middle of a water unless it is a bridge (e.g. fish pond) Relations: I suggest that relations must only be used for special purposes such as there are two many nodes for a single polygon or when there are a lot of ways that must be placed on top of each other which makes them hard to edit if made as polygons and not as a multipolygon using relations. *What tag to use for fish ponds.* As fish thrives in water i suggest natural:water ; crop=fish *Poultry farms* landuse:farmland ; crop:chicken *Waterway tagging (suggestion) :* Rivers: if the width of the flowing body of water seems to be wider than 50 meters and deeper than 10 meters streams: if smaller than my concept of a river irrigation canal: a stream if it is natural ; a drain if it is artificial Ervin M. *Schadow1 Expeditions* - A Filipino must not be a stranger to his own motherland. http://www.s1expeditions.com On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 6:29 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Below are some tagging questions we experienced during the trainings. I am sending it here for further discussions and hopefully agreements. Landuse - How to map adjacent landuse types? For those separated by roads, do we use the same nodes as the other landuse? I personally prefer to separate the landuse areas if there is a road but I'm open to other suggestions. - Is it better to use relations? From a data perspective landuse polygons should be relation multipolygons however, the concept of using relations is very hard to teach for newbies? What tag to use for: - Fishponds (currently we use landuse=farm; crop=fish) - Poultry farms Waterway tagging - Difference between rivers, streams and irrigation canals -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] tagging questions
On Friday, 01 November, 2013 06:39 PM, Carlo Antonio Romero wrote: I was trying to finish a couple tasks in the Candaba OSM Training and was wondering about heavy cloud cover in the imagery. Are we going to make assumptions if an area has heavy cloud cover? Im leaning towards no. id rather not tag something im not comfortable with. the closest solution i can make is a FIXME=resurvey or FIXME=resurvey - heavy cloud cover in imagery Thoughts? suggestions? You've probably tried this, and it doesn't really answer your question, but I just thought I'd mention its worth zooming in and out over an area. Sometimes you'll find that an area has cloud cover at one zoom level, but not at another ... Jim ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] tagging questions
*How to map adjacent landuse types?* If the owner of the landuse separated by roads are different, it is appropriate to have them created as separate land use. If not, I suggest to have them treated as one, such as a residential area where you do not need to separate the residential area on both sides of the road just to give way for the road. But if this is water, it is fine to make them separate as a road is not possible in the middle of a water unless it is a bridge (e.g. fish pond) Relations: I suggest that relations must only be used for special purposes such as there are two many nodes for a single polygon or when there are a lot of ways that must be placed on top of each other which makes them hard to edit if made as polygons and not as a multipolygon using relations. *What tag to use for fish ponds.* As fish thrives in water i suggest natural:water ; crop=fish *Poultry farms* landuse:farmland ; crop:chicken *Waterway tagging (suggestion) :* Rivers: if the width of the flowing body of water seems to be wider than 50 meters and deeper than 10 meters streams: if smaller than my concept of a river irrigation canal: a stream if it is natural ; a drain if it is artificial Ervin M. *Schadow1 Expeditions* - A Filipino must not be a stranger to his own motherland. http://www.s1expeditions.com On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 6:29 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, Below are some tagging questions we experienced during the trainings. I am sending it here for further discussions and hopefully agreements. Landuse - How to map adjacent landuse types? For those separated by roads, do we use the same nodes as the other landuse? I personally prefer to separate the landuse areas if there is a road but I'm open to other suggestions. - Is it better to use relations? From a data perspective landuse polygons should be relation multipolygons however, the concept of using relations is very hard to teach for newbies? What tag to use for: - Fishponds (currently we use landuse=farm; crop=fish) - Poultry farms Waterway tagging - Difference between rivers, streams and irrigation canals -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
