Re: [Talk-transit] Real-Time Bus Map

2009-11-04 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:35:37 +, Christoph Böhme wrote:

 I am not aware that anyone is adding timetables at the moment and again
 I would not use OSM for that.
 
 Nonetheless it would be really cool to produce such a map.

There could be a feature request for this, right? Is there a problem and 
reason why not to include time tables in OSM?

I would love to see OSM transit map with time tables so that I could 
check when some bus/tram should arrive at my stop.

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Re: [Talk-transit] Real-Time Bus Map

2009-11-03 Thread Christoph Böhme
Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com schrieb:

 http://googlemapsmania.blogspot.com/2009/10/real-time-bus-map.html
 
 Is this possible with OpenStreetMap? I would like to make Real Time
 Bus Map for my home town. We have created bus and tram relation
 tracks and this would be the next step, if possible.

Technically it is easily possible: All stops imported during the NaPTAN
import have a tag called naptan:NaptanCode. This tag can be used to
request real-time information (e.g. via text messages). In the West
Midlands area this information can also be accessed via
http://netwm.mobi/. So, theoretically you could simple display an
overlay with bus stops in OpenLayers (like Novam [1] does) and
automatically query netwm.mobi when the user clicks on a stop and
display the netwm's output in a popup.

However, I reckon there are legal problems with this approach :-)

Cheers,
Christoph

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[Talk-transit] Real-Time Bus Map

2009-11-03 Thread Valent Turkovic
http://googlemapsmania.blogspot.com/2009/10/real-time-bus-map.html

Is this possible with OpenStreetMap? I would like to make Real Time Bus 
Map for my home town. We have created bus and tram relation tracks and 
this would be the next step, if possible.

Cheers.



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Re: [Talk-transit] Real-Time Bus Map

2009-11-03 Thread Christoph Böhme
Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com schrieb:

 On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:05:56 +, Christoph Böhme wrote:
 
  However, I reckon there are legal problems with this approach
 
 
 Is it possible to make it using only opnestreetmap data, so that it
 open and legal?

The problem is that you need real-time data from the bus route
operators to know where their busses are. Since this data is constantly
changing Openstreetmap is -- in my opinion -- not the right place for
it. It would also be handy to have the timetables in a database as
well; I am not aware that anyone is adding timetables at the moment
and again I would not use OSM for that.

Nonetheless it would be really cool to produce such a map.

Cheers,
Christoph

 
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