Re: multi-language templates
Hello Robin and Roelof,
The problem seems to be solved.
Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 12:20:51 AM, you wrote:
RA I agree with Roelof's suggestions:
RA* put before the %- in each of the %If statements in the
RA master_new_message QT
This works the line which disappeard is back again now.
RA* include %- at the end of the final %If statement in the
RA master_new_message QT
This part does not seem to have an influence on the output.
RA And if you omit the %- after
RA%If:%_SetLang=PL:%QInclude(new_PL):
RA you will find you have one extra blank line in your Polish messages.
With or without %- same result. The Polish messages behave like all
the others...
RA TB! will continue to look for what to do if the condition is false. I
RA don't know enough about how the %If macro handles improperly constructed
RA statements to work out how it interprets the set of statements you have,
RA but I'm sure it causes problems!
What does this mean for the SetLanguage QT? As far as I see there is
also an empty action if false statement in the %If macros. Or is
there something I misinterpret?
After your (Robin's and Roelof's) debugging it looks like this now:
- [ SetLANGUAGE QT ] -
%REM=^%-
Set language based on recipient's addressbook memo entry containing a
line starting Language: followed by the language code
If this doesn't exist, use the TLD in the recipient's address
^%-
%-
%_SetLang='%SetPattRegExp=(?im)^Language:\s*([a-z]{2})$%RegExpMatch=%ABToMemo'%-
%If:#%_SetLang###:##:#%-
%-
%Rem=No language entry in the addressbook%-
%-
%_SLDomain='%SetPattRegExp=\.([^\.]*?)$%RegExpMatch(%ToAddr)%-'
%_SetLang=AM%-
%-
%If:'%_SLDomain'='fr':'%_SetLang=FR'%-
%If:'%_SLDomain'='de':'%_SetLang=DE'%-
%If:'%_SLDomain'='sk':'%_SetLang=SK'%-
%If:'%_SLDomain'='cz':'%_SetLang=SK'%-
%If:'%_SLDomain'='ru':'%_SetLang=RU'%-
%If:'%_SLDomain'='hu':'%_SetLang=HU'%-
%If:'%_SLDomain'='pl':'%_SetLang=PL'#%-
- [end of SetLANGUAGE QT ] -
Where is the action if false statement?
--
Best regards,
Cyrille
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Re[2]: Problem with Bayesit! Plugin... once more :(
It seems to work Great thanks ! Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 2:02:15 AM, tu m'a écris: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Mail\bayesit\base\spamdict.bye Error loading file. May be it is corrupted or lost. S i once saw the same thing. then i used the following steps to recover S and now log doesn't show any error: S 1. delete all bayesit database files S 2. since training feature is gone, i mark everything in my inbox as S not spam and all mail in junk folder as spam. then it works. S i think the key is step 2. it seems baysit database won't be created S until you marked a certain number of messages. Chi you choun -- El Sinior NoNo - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- My name is ZoNe, NoNoZoNe !!! http://www.nonozone.com Pour vous abonner à la Mailing List NoNoZoNe, envoyez un message vide à [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: multi-language templates
On Tue 8 June 2004, 16:31:41 +1000, Cyrille wrote: The problem seems to be solved. Excellent RA* include %- at the end of the final %If statement in the RA master_new_message QT This part does not seem to have an influence on the output. RA And if you omit the %- after RA%If:%_SetLang=PL:%QInclude(new_PL): RA you will find you have one extra blank line in your Polish messages. With or without %- same result. The Polish messages behave like all the others... Even after adding the (action if false) at the end of the %If statements? I am a little surprised, but only a little. RA TB! will continue to look for what to do if the condition is false. I RA don't know enough about how the %If macro handles improperly constructed RA statements to work out how it interprets the set of statements you have, RA but I'm sure it causes problems! What does this mean for the SetLanguage QT? As far as I see there is also an empty action if false statement in the %If macros. Or is there something I misinterpret? After your (Robin's and Roelof's) debugging it looks like this now: - [ SetLANGUAGE QT ] - ...snip... %If:'%_SLDomain'='fr':'%_SetLang=FR'%- %If:'%_SLDomain'='de':'%_SetLang=DE'%- %If:'%_SLDomain'='sk':'%_SetLang=SK'%- %If:'%_SLDomain'='cz':'%_SetLang=SK'%- %If:'%_SLDomain'='ru':'%_SetLang=RU'%- %If:'%_SLDomain'='hu':'%_SetLang=HU'%- %If:'%_SLDomain'='pl':'%_SetLang=PL'#%- - [end of SetLANGUAGE QT ] - Where is the action if false statement? Good question. You say it works at the moment, and that probably reflects the robustness of the macro's ability to parse the lines above. However it would be better to make them read %If:'%_SLDomain'='fr':'%_SetLang=FR':''%- %If:'%_SLDomain'='de':'%_SetLang=DE':''%- %If:'%_SLDomain'='sk':'%_SetLang=SK':''%- %If:'%_SLDomain'='cz':'%_SetLang=SK':''%- %If:'%_SLDomain'='ru':'%_SetLang=RU':''%- %If:'%_SLDomain'='hu':'%_SetLang=HU':''%- %If:'%_SLDomain'='pl':'%_SetLang=PL':''#%- -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: [SPAM] - How to set up batpost properly ? - Bayesian Filter detected spam
I solved the problem another way: I re-installed and imported my old mailbox. Which drives me to another problem: still nothing from RITLabs or the local reseller (Mensys): no receipt, no activation code, nothing. I registered last Saturday. It's a bit long... Does RIT have a commercial service that I could contact (or who would be reading this list)? Stephan -Original Message- From: Claude Renaud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 June 2004 18:12 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SPAM] - How to set up batpost properly ? - Bayesian Filter detected spam Hi all, I'm currently evaluating Batpost. I ask the question on this list because apparently there is not one dedicated to BatPost. I read the two pdfs provided with the program (the quickstart guide and the admin manual) but I don't understand how to set up the server and especially what dns domain address to indicate in order to do it works properly. Does someone use this program and can help me to set it up ? Is there any detailed document in which we can learn how to manage this server and set it up properly ? Could you give me some advice ? -- Greetings, Claude Renaud Secure Bat! v2.10.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Emtply lines
Dear Hasan, @8-Jun-2004, 10:55 +0500 (08-Jun 06:55 UK time) hasan [HS] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: HS Hope there is, cause I am really tired of this. HS Using bat 2.10. HS regards, HS Hasan Here are your blank lines. In your reply template. Edit your reply template to remove them. Also, it is considered good netiquette to trim replies to content. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgpsowveZ8ULI.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Emtply lines
Dear Hasan, @8-Jun-2004, 10:55 +0500 (08-Jun 06:55 UK time) hasan [HS] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: HS has problems opening it. Its keeps getting bigger cause there are a HS million blank lines between replies and within the reply text. ... snip One other thought ... it may be that you have a number of macros in use in your template, each on its own line. If so, finish any such lines with a '%-' sequence to suppress the blank line they will generate. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgpMoinwFQ4uA.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
T-Bird engine the most compliant??
Dear TBUDLers... From the Thunderbird HELP site: 'Mozilla Thunderbird - The New Mail Client from Mozilla Mozilla Thunderbird is a free, open-source and cross-platform mail client and news reader for most modern operating systems including, but not limited to, Windows, Linux and Macintosh. It offers some advantages over other mail clients, including junk mail classification. Built from Mozilla http://www.mozilla.org/ code, Mozilla Thunderbird uses Gecko, the most standards-compliant rendering engine in existence.' Is thsi true?: Mozilla Thunderbird uses Gecko, the most standards-compliant rendering engine in existence.' What does TheBat use?? -- Steve L Using The Bat (back to ver 2.10.03 from 2.11.x since a recent crash) and Thunderbird 0.6 - both on Win 98 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: multi-language templates
Hello Robin, Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 9:47:14 AM, you wrote: RA And if you omit the %- after RA%If:%_SetLang=PL:%QInclude(new_PL): RA you will find you have one extra blank line in your Polish messages. With or without %- same result. The Polish messages behave like all the others... RA Even after adding the (action if false) at the end of the %If RA statements? I am a little surprised, but only a little. I tried again: You are right. After adding the (action if false) also the %- at the end of the last if statement behaves differently from before. (Why?) Without the %- a blank line appears between the part of the sig coming from the language slave and the part of the sig coming from the master. But: This is the case not only for Polish but for all languages. (You know what I mean, don't you (-: ) But maybe there is nothing to worry about since it works now... What does this mean for the SetLanguage QT? As far as I see there is also an empty action if false statement in the %If macros. Where is the action if false statement? RA Good question. You say it works at the moment, and that probably reflects RA the robustness of the macro's ability to parse the lines above. However RA it would be better to make them read RA %If:'%_SLDomain'='fr':'%_SetLang=FR':''%- RA %If:'%_SLDomain'='de':'%_SetLang=DE':''%- RA %If:'%_SLDomain'='sk':'%_SetLang=SK':''%- RA %If:'%_SLDomain'='cz':'%_SetLang=SK':''%- RA %If:'%_SLDomain'='ru':'%_SetLang=RU':''%- RA %If:'%_SLDomain'='hu':'%_SetLang=HU':''%- RA %If:'%_SLDomain'='pl':'%_SetLang=PL':''#%- Done. Works fine. Aren't you proud of your student? He finds already the mistakes of his teacher... (-: Since the new message part of the solution works now, I will try to get it working for replies as well. The first tests do not look well. During the last two hours I crashed TB exactly nine times (got frozen and I had to kill it). There seems to be a conflict between different QT or a bug with the %LANGUAGE macro. I did not narrow down yet what might be the reason. I think I will start a new thread with this question. Thanx again. -- Best regards, Cyrille mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [ TB! 2.10.01, Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000, Pentium 233Mhz with 95MB ] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Word wrapping
Hi When I'm using the message editor, I find that I have to keep on doing Utilities-Format Block-Left (or Alt-L) to keep my paragraphs correctly wrapped and justified. Is there any mode where word wrapping happens on an ongoing basis as happens in many word processors and text editors? -- Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Possible IMAP problem in V2.11
Sorry for delay in replying. the weather was too nice to spend time in front of the computer! 2.11.02 made no difference but eventually I traced it to a problem with my firewall. If I turn it off then everything is fine. I don't quite understand why version 2.10.03 works through the firewall and 2.11 and subsequent do not. I can't find any useful messages in the firewall log. Does anyone know whether the way The Bat works for both IMAP and POP3 has changed in some subtle way for the 2.11 versions? -- Cheers, Phil Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Get rid of X-mailer header.
Hello TBUDL, Is there a way to do it? -- Regards, Charles. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Get rid of X-mailer header.
On Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 11:55:47 AM, nednieuws|charles wrote: Is there a way to do it? Yes, Options|Preferences|General and deselect Show X-Mailer Heading in Messages. This is a global setting, so affects all accounts. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Possible IMAP problem in V2.11
Phil, [P] wrote: P Sorry for delay in replying. the weather was too nice to spend time P in front of the computer! 2.11.02 made no difference but eventually P I traced it to a problem with my firewall. If I turn it off then P everything is fine. I don't quite understand why version 2.10.03 P works through the firewall and 2.11 and subsequent do not. I can't P find any useful messages in the firewall log. Does anyone know P whether the way The Bat works for both IMAP and POP3 has changed in P some subtle way for the 2.11 versions? Most firewalls today will offer application protection, so you have to give each application permission. At the time a hash is created for the application. If you upgrade the application, you'll need to change the firewall rule since the hash for the new executable is different. -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.11.03 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgpNyyPysOLHU.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Get rid of X-mailer header.
Hello Julian, Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 1:07:50 PM, you wrote: Is there a way to do it? JBL Yes, Options|Preferences|General and deselect Show X-Mailer Heading in JBL Messages. This is a global setting, so affects all accounts. Grrr, too simple. Sorry 'bout that. -- Regards, Charles. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Get rid of X-mailer header.
Hello nednieuws, Is there a way to do it? Options/Preferences/General and de-select Use X-mailer header -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.10.03 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Top Posting / Cut Mark
Can the moderator send these seemingly endless top posting and cut mark messages to the offending poster and not the whole list? It's amazing how many of these I've been getting lately. Wading through these messages is - IMHO - _much_ more annoying than the relatively minor problem of a top poster. jon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Possible IMAP problem in V2.11
Hi Allie, Most firewalls today will offer application protection, so you have to give each application permission. At the time a hash is created for the application. If you upgrade the application, you'll need to change the firewall rule since the hash for the new executable is different. I knew about this. I deleted the old rule and put in a new one for the latest version. No use! I can only presume that the deleting of the rule has left some residual rubbish lying about! I'll look into this when I have more spare time than I have at the moment. I only need the software firewall for the odd occasion when I have to use dial-up - most of the time I go though a router with a built in firewall, so turning it off for now is no great loss! Thanks for your replies, -- Cheers, Phil Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Emtply lines
Edit your reply Template to remove them this is what my reply template looks like Dear %TOFNAME %CURSOR Best Regards Hasan %QUOTES%- There arent any blank lines. I know i am doing something stupid, plz help me out. -- Hasan Dear Hasan, @8-Jun-2004, 10:55 +0500 (08-Jun 06:55 UK time) hasan [HS] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: HS Hope there is, cause I am really tired of this. HS Using bat 2.10. HS regards, HS Hasan Here are your blank lines. In your reply template. Edit your reply template to remove them. Also, it is considered good netiquette to trim replies to content. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: lost key and checksum codes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello David, On 08 June 2004, 13:43 +1000 (08/06/200404:43 local time) David Boggon [DB] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DB Is anyone aware how to get these codes back electronically, either DB from RitLabs or from my hard drive? See http://www.ritlabs.com/en/about/contacts.php. - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMWrjjknq5PWREYNEQJQDgCgtOlfbc0+Nf45xfpBb6/aN/hRV5sAni2J O2YOKsksbn3KZcuoiIrcFWJV =itpm -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Error message from Help screen
Hi Batfans, Another user of The Bat! emailed to say the link I had sent them did not appear as a link. So, I went into that pesky Options|Preferences|Editor/Viewer to see if I had the wrong settings again! So, I clicked on the Help button and received an error message stating: --- Windows Help --- The topic does not exist. Contact your application vendor for an updated Help file. (129) --- OK --- Is it necessary for me to reinstall The Bat!? If so, can I reinstall over the current installation without losing data? My version is 2.11.02 -- TIA, Maggie Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Top Posting / Cut Mark
Hello jwayne, Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 1:53:17 PM, you wrote: j Can the moderator send these seemingly endless top posting and cut mark j messages to the offending poster and not the whole list? It's amazing how many j of these I've been getting lately. Wading through these messages is - IMHO - j _much_ more annoying than the relatively minor problem of a top poster. Yes, I second that. -- Regards, Charles. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Top Posting / Cut Mark
Jwayne, [J] wrote: J Can the moderator send these seemingly endless top posting and J cut mark messages to the offending poster and not the whole list? J It's amazing how many of these I've been getting lately. Wading J through these messages is - IMHO - _much_ more annoying than the J relatively minor problem of a top poster. Moderatorial interjections are best served on list. In this way, everyone sees them. If someone who wishes to top post sees one of the top posting moderatorial comments, he'll likely not do so. I was hoping your comment would be more to the effect that the moderatorial interjections are becoming very common and you wish that members would read and follow the list rules so that the moderators wouldn't have to be interjecting so much. The list rules are provided with each subscription and may also be reviewed via the list information pages, the URL for which is in the footers for each message. It's a challenge keeping the lists to the standard they currently are and along the way, we inevitably get comments like yours with a few in agreement. That's no problem. They're duly noted. However, the moderatorial notes will continue. -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.11.03 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgpz9jYBFjbvI.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error message from Help screen
Mm Meister, [MM] wrote: MM Another user of The Bat! emailed to say the link I had sent them MM did not appear as a link. Would you send an example of the link you sent? Did you send the message in HTML or plain text format? MM So, I went into that pesky Options|Preferences|Editor/Viewer to MM see if I had the wrong settings again! So, I clicked on the Help MM button and received an error message stating: MM --- Windows Help MM --- The topic does not exist. Contact your MM application vendor for an updated Help file. (129) MM --- OK --- I get that too. :/ MM Is it necessary for me to reinstall The Bat!? Not at all. MM If so, can I reinstall over the current installation without MM losing data? Yes, you can do this. This is the recommended method of upgrading etc. -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.11.03 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgpAsChhXAQHF.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?
ON Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 2:52:30 AM, you wrote: ttc - Try this one, sir, it has an email client, a news client and a chat ttc module, and.. Marek, I still have a old mobile phone. All you can do with it is call and be called. No SMS, no camera, no diary, no ringtones, no graphic display, no games, no bluetooth,no picture messaging, no nothing. Just call. You think there is a market for such phones? You think there is a market for just plain email programs? And no 2 persons wanting this is not a market -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= There is no such thing as a golfer playing over his head. A hot streak is simply a glimpse of a golfer´s true potential. Using The Bat! v2.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error message from Help screen
On Tuesday, June 8, 2004 at 2:22:39 PM, mm Meister wrote: --- Windows Help --- The topic does not exist. Contact your application vendor for an updated Help file. (129) --- OK --- There ist no updated help file :(( Regards, Frank -- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can someone tell me what this means?
Hello Jack, MDP ... the reverse DNS for your domain specified a mail exchange MDP computer called ohmx-2.columbus.rr.com. When the RITlabs mail MDP exchanger attempted to connect back to it to verify its existence, MDP it failed. As a result, your message was rejected. This is a MDP standard method of protecting against connections from spamming MDP servers, which characteristically fail the rDNS connect back. I thought as much but since the same reply was received for two different people I thought I might be interpreting it incorrectly. So can you, or anyone, tell me what I should do now? I apparently have no way to contact RITlabs (which is a very bad situation in itself) and I can't get an answer on this list. Is there somewhere else I can ask about my problem? -- Jack Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Error message from Help screen
Hello Allie, Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 8:34:19 AM, you wrote: A Mm Meister, [MM] wrote: MM Another user of The Bat! emailed to say the link I had sent them MM did not appear as a link. A Would you send an example of the link you sent? Here it is: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0890055602/104-7347640-0256713?v=glance It shows to me as clickable and also to another friend who is using The Bat! A Did you send the message in HTML or plain text format? This is possibly the crux. I sent the link yesterday when we were going back and forth witht he various HTML/Plain Text changes, so I do not know. Is there a way to find out? MM So, I went into that pesky Options|Preferences|Editor/Viewer to MM see if I had the wrong settings again! So, I clicked on the Help MM button and received an error message stating: MM --- Windows Help MM --- The topic does not exist. Contact your MM application vendor for an updated Help file. (129) MM --- OK --- A I get that too. :/ MM Is it necessary for me to reinstall The Bat!? A Not at all. MM If so, can I reinstall over the current installation without MM losing data? A Yes, you can do this. This is the recommended method of upgrading etc. OK, Allie, I'm now not sure why the help file is not working. If I don't have to reinstall to correct the help file, then why would I want to reinstall it? :O If I understand you correctly, I don't have to reinstall, but if I reinstall, I can do it over the other version as I have done in the past to save my breath and life. 8-)) -- Thanks for RR, Maggie Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Error message from Help screen
Hi Frank, Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 8:40:47 AM, you wrote: F There ist no updated help file :(( Ah, I see, but shouldn't there be an old help file and not an error message? Listen, Frank, before they get you with a trout, be sure to put a cut mark in your mails. Before your sig, on a clean line, put dash dash space enter, then your sig under that. This way, when we all reply to you we don't have to trim the sig. Thank you for your help! -- Regards, Maggie Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?
Hi On Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 1:38:41 PM, Gerard wrote: G I still have a old mobile phone. All you can do with it is call and be G called. No SMS, no camera, no diary, no ringtones, no graphic display, no G games, no bluetooth,no picture messaging, no nothing. Just call. G You think there is a market for such phones? Yes, IMHO, if it's cheap enough. Loads of people would get them for their kids. It wouldn't be cool'n'trendy, so no-one would steal it. It would be functional, and it wouldn't be the end of the world if it got lost or damaged. And it would enable parents to say: I'll give you a phone so that you can call us in an emergency, but I won't help you play 'my phone is cooler than yours' with your mates. But it would be nice if it had SMS. Perhaps that's the problem: we all want a simple email program, but it would be nice if it had XYZ. And if everyone's XYZ is different... G You think there is a market for just plain email programs? Yes, as long as it has XYZ :-) -- Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Top Posting / Cut Mark
Hello Allie, Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 2:31:53 PM, you wrote: AM It's a challenge keeping the lists to the standard they currently are AM and along the way, we inevitably get comments like yours with a few in AM agreement. That's no problem. They're duly noted. However, the AM moderatorial notes will continue. Do these types of messages always start with the subject line with Mod:.*? -- Regards, Charles. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error message from Help screen
Maggie, [M] wrote: A Would you send an example of the link you sent? M Here it is: M http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0890055602/104-7347640-0256713?v=glance It works here. M It shows to me as clickable and also to another friend who is using The Bat! I'm not really sure what happened at the other users end. The problem is likely at their end. M This is possibly the crux. I sent the link yesterday when we were M going back and forth witht he various HTML/Plain Text changes, so I do M not know. Is there a way to find out? You could open a new message addressed to me, find the problem message you sent to your friend and drag and drop it into the new message window. Just left click and hold the message entry in the message list. Drag and drop it in the editor window. Then send, if it's not a sensitive message. :) I could then look at it as is and give you a better impression of what is happening. M OK, Allie, I'm now not sure why the help file is not working. Me neither. I've noted that the context sensitive help doesn't work in some places. M If I don't have to reinstall to correct the help file, then why M would I want to reinstall it? :O No. You wouldn't need to. I was just giving btw information on how to upgrade your installation if and when you so wish. You don't have to uninstall first. In fact, doing that could create difficulties with lost settings etc. -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.11.03 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgpYmevki9LF1.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Top Posting / Cut Mark
Nednieuws | Charles, [NC] wrote: AM It's a challenge keeping the lists to the standard they currently are AM and along the way, we inevitably get comments like yours with a few in AM agreement. That's no problem. They're duly noted. However, the AM moderatorial notes will continue. NC Do these types of messages always start with the subject line with NC Mod:.*? Yes. So it's a potential filtering point. I hope that you're very familiar with the list rules before you embark on filtering out moderatorial interjections which could be in response to one of your posts. :) -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.11.03 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgpabn5l5g1Qf.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Top Posting / Cut Mark
Hello Allie, Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 3:21:17 PM, you wrote: AM Nednieuws | Charles, [NC] wrote: AM It's a challenge keeping the lists to the standard they currently are AM and along the way, we inevitably get comments like yours with a few in AM agreement. That's no problem. They're duly noted. However, the AM moderatorial notes will continue. NC Do these types of messages always start with the subject line with NC Mod:.*? AM Yes. So it's a potential filtering point. AM I hope that you're very familiar with the list rules before you embark AM on filtering out moderatorial interjections which could be in response AM to one of your posts. :) Yes, I am. And should I violate, block me off the list. This is what you could do with people that violate the list. Send them a personal warning. If they, as you said, don't respond to this, block them after a couple of warnings. -- Regards, Charles. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can someone tell me what this means?
Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 1:34:52 PM, Jack wrote: Hello Jack, MDP ... the reverse DNS for your domain specified a mail exchange MDP computer called ohmx-2.columbus.rr.com. When the RITlabs mail MDP exchanger attempted to connect back to it to verify its existence, MDP it failed. As a result, your message was rejected. This is a MDP standard method of protecting against MDP connections from spamming MDP servers, which characteristically fail the rDNS connect back. I thought as much but since the same reply was received for two different people I thought I might be interpreting it incorrectly. So can you, or anyone, tell me what I should do now? I apparently have no way to contact RITlabs (which is a very bad situation in itself) and I can't get an answer on this list. Is there somewhere else I can ask about my problem? Though when I sent it on for you, I did have the From and Reply-To set your your address. I thought that that would be good enough, with all the Received: headers etc having my details, rather than yours. I could try again with me as From, and you (Jack) as reply to, or even create a [EMAIL PROTECTED] specially for the purpose... Shall I do that? The alternative is to try and track down why the rDNS connect back is failing Tim -- Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Top Posting / Cut Mark
Nednieuws | Charles, [NC] wrote: NC Yes, I am. And should I violate, block me off the list. This is NC what you could do with people that violate the list. Send them a NC personal warning. If they, as you said, don't respond to this, NC block them after a couple of warnings. In the overwhelming main, we don't need to be so cut and dry with our members who are usually very cooperative. Furthermore, we've seen where off-list moderating takes a list. One thing it sure does is to make the moderator frustrated and without time to get on with other things. -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.11.03 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgpjrA0YcOkKg.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Top Posting / Cut Mark
On Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 13:53:17, jwayne wrote: Can the moderator send these seemingly endless top posting and cut mark messages to the offending poster and not the whole list? It's amazing how many of these I've been getting lately. Wading through these messages is - IMHO - _much_ more annoying than the relatively minor problem of a top poster. It's easy to filter them out. OTOH, if the moderators wouldn't send these to the list, you'd see 10 other members complaining. BTW, where's _your_ cut mark? -- Jernej Simoncic http://deepthought.ena.si/ for personal mail, replace guest.arnes.si with isg.si If the experiment works, you must be using the wrong equipment. -- Patrick's Theorem Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
wide msag list cudos re-installation question
Lifted from TBUDL archives. * From: Allie Martin * Subject: Re: wide msag list cudos re-installation question * Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 05:50:34 -0700 AM Are you having any problems with memory leaking while using AMON? Not that I've realized. JR 3. A question: What does TB! do with an original AB when TB! is JR first un-installed then re-installed in the same directory. For JR example, I see that TB! preserves all QTs but I can't find my JR original AB. Have you looked in the installation directory? Where is you mail data kept, in the Mail directory in your installation directory, or are you using the newly supported location, i.e., C:\Documents and Settings\user\Application Data\BatMail I used the default/original/old directory structure, i.e. MAIN for all data files. AM You need to look in your data directory for files with the AM .abd extension. If they're present, you could try importing AM them. JR Ditto for personal dictionary can't figure out how to re-install JR my common virtual folders. AM You'll likely have to recreate the virtual folders. AM For the common folders, try a CTRL-Shift-Alt-L . Tried this which is part of the mystery. TB! restores only *some* of the common folders while ignoring others which leaves me with the question of how to get TB! to recognize them. The *.abd is devoid of all entries. So I don't get that either. AM Interesting problems. I'm sorry that I can't more solidly help AM since I've never actually uninstalled and then reinstalled AM TB!. I always just swap executables. I did that as well but I've found that on actually releases, it's sometimes better to clean out the old(er) files start clean. In *any* event, it seems to me that a TB! re-installation shouldn't be such a mystery at this stage of development. This has been a long running issue of sorts -- perhaps even as long as your request for a wide msg list view. g If you or anyone has any further thoughts on my installation questions, I'd sure appreciate hearing from you. Thanks. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.11.03/W2K_SP3 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Top Posting / Cut Mark
Hello Jernej, Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 8:14:46 AM, you wrote: Jernej BTW, where's _your_ cut mark? He has one. Right below his name. -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Tagline of the day: First things first, but not necessarily in that order. Using The Bat! 2.11.03 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE:The bat and kapersky AV
Hello WilWilWil, Wednesday, July 7, 2004, 1:30:37 PM, you wrote: can't help you with your problem, but you should cast an eye or two on the date of your PC. We're not yet in July! ;-) -- Regards, Jurgen There are none so blind as those who will not see Using The Bat! v2.11.03, Opera v7.51.3798 on Win.XP.5.1.2600.SP1 * PGP key available on request: send mail with subject 'PGP key request' pgpipx0eOOsJE.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error message from Help screen
On Tuesday, June 8, 2004 at 2:58:16 PM, Maggie wrote: Ah, I see, but shouldn't there be an old help file and not an error message? No. The error message is from windows not from TB!. Listen, Frank, before they get you with a trout, be sure to put a cut mark in your mails. There was a cut mark in my mail. Regards, Frank -- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Top Posting / Cut Mark
Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 11:03:04 AM, Leif Gregory wrote: LG Hello Jernej, LG Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 8:14:46 AM, you wrote: Jernej BTW, where's _your_ cut mark? LG He has one. Right below his name. LG -- LG Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). LG Tagline of the day: LG First things first, but not necessarily in that order. But it appears that the space after the -- is being discarded when the following are used to create or reply to a message: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 or Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1250 and the RTF viewer is used. The signature, tagline, etc. appear as black and not silver color and the space is not there. But when the source is viewed (via F9) the space is there. Is it just a problem with the RTF viewer? Or my settings? -- Regards, Plan9 On the seventh day He brewed beer Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Add a contact
When I click to add an address to the address book, and add this address, I find later I can't find the address. It seems that if I do it again, add to address book, I notice something under the Groups field in the Address book entry window. It seems to always pick something. I am not sure how. How would you ensure that it won't add an address to some abandoned address group? -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Error message from Help screen
Hello Frank, Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 11:57:36 AM, you wrote: F There was a cut mark in my mail. F Regards, F Frank Yes, but as you can see, your signature is _above_ it, not below. The sig needs to be below the cut. -- Cheers, Maggie Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Word wrapping
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Simon, On 08 June 2004, 11:45 Simon Elliott [SE] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SE When I'm using the message editor, I find that I have to keep on SE doing Utilities-Format Block-Left (or Alt-L) to keep my paragraphs SE correctly wrapped and justified. Is there any mode where word SE wrapping happens on an ongoing basis as happens in many word SE processors and text editors? What's your 'Wrap text to' option set to? (Options | Preferences | Editor preferences)... and what editor do you use? If you're using MicroEd there's another setting for 'Auto-wrap' that needs to be checked. - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMXjtDknq5PWREYNEQLzRACgti8O18TV+uZ2F2h5VjKuewDOWREAoPJc UpYWDQJz8T1+8GIgzAjtI9Ww =pnYu -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Top Posting / Cut Mark
Hello Plan9, Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 9:58:56 AM, you wrote: Plan9 The signature, tagline, etc. appear as black and not silver Plan9 color and the space is not there. But when the source is viewed Plan9 (via F9) the space is there. Is it just a problem with the RTF Plan9 viewer? Or my settings? Hmmm. I'm thinking it's on your settings. His shows up as grey as does mine and yours. How does your cut mark look when you view your own message? -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Tagline of the day: Sorry for not writing sooner. I died last week. Using The Bat! 2.11.03 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can someone tell me what this means?
Hello Tim, I thought as much but since the same reply was received for two different people I thought I might be interpreting it incorrectly. So can you, or anyone, tell me what I should do now? I apparently have no way to contact RITlabs (which is a very bad situation in itself) and I can't get an answer on this list. Is there somewhere else I can ask about my problem? TS I could try again with me as From, and you (Jack) as reply TS to, or even create a [EMAIL PROTECTED] specially for the TS purpose... Shall I do that? I would certainly appreciate it. TS The alternative is to try and track down why the rDNS connect back TS is failing It's a pretty sad situation to have to jump through all of these hoops to get, what to me is, a relatively simple problem solved. -- Jack Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can someone tell me what this means?
Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 5:36:34 PM, Jack wrote: TJS I could try [sending Jack's email] with me as From, TJS and you (Jack) as reply to, or even create a TJS [EMAIL PROTECTED] specially for the purpose... TJS Shall I do that? I would certainly appreciate it. done TJS The alternative is to try and track down why the rDNS connect back TJS is failing It's a pretty sad situation to have to jump through all of these hoops to get, what to me is, a relatively simple problem solved. It might still be wise to investigate the rDNS, as you might find that other systems also reject your emaail Tim -- Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can someone tell me what this means?
Hello Tim, I would certainly appreciate it. TS done Thank you. TS It might still be wise to investigate the rDNS, as you might TS find that other systems also reject your emaail I wouldn't know how to begin to do this. I'm on about 30 lists and have never had a problem contacting them or the support sites for them. I could call up my ISP but saying I can't deliver mail to one address probably won't elicit much help from them. What should I do to track this problem down? -- Jack Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error message from Help screen
Tuesday, June 8, 2004, Maggie wrote: A Did you send the message in HTML or plain text format? This is possibly the crux. I sent the link yesterday when we were going back and forth witht he various HTML/Plain Text changes, so I do not know. Is there a way to find out? Send messages to yourself, using the different editors, then read the messages using the different users. But to save you the trouble I just did that, and found that if you send using the HTML-editor you must add hyperlinks using the Add hyperlink icon if the HTML-viewer is to see them as a hyperlink otherwise it thinks they are plain text. -- Urban Julius Caesar extinguished himself on the battlefields of Gaul. The Ides of March murdered him because they thought he was going to be made king. Dying, he gasped out: Tee hee, Brutus. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Top Posting / Cut Mark
Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 12:19:44 PM, Leif Gregory wrote: LG Hello Plan9, LG Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 9:58:56 AM, you wrote: Plan9 The signature, tagline, etc. appear as black and not silver Plan9 color and the space is not there. But when the source is viewed Plan9 (via F9) the space is there. Is it just a problem with the RTF Plan9 viewer? Or my settings? LG Hmmm. I'm thinking it's on your settings. His shows up as grey as does LG mine and yours. LG How does your cut mark look when you view your own message? It's grey as is should be. And so is your's as long as your message is: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii as shown by F9. Hmmm. I'll tinker with the settings, send some messages to myself to conserve list bandwith, and see what develops. -- Regards, Plan9 I smoke in moderation, only one cigar at a time. -Mark Twain Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mail Filtering
Hi - I've just picked up The Bat! (whatever version's current), and jumped on this mailing list to help me get into the interface, etc. I've set up a filter for my Incoming IMAP box, as per the Welcome email, but I'm not sure I'm doing things right. For the account, I've gone to Incoming Mail, made a new filter, and under Filtering Strings, I've entered the following: Strings Location Presence Reply-to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Kludges Yes ...and I've turned on Regular Expressions under the Options. Will this work on an IMAP box, and if so, what have I missed? TIA, -- Duane Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Error message from Help screen
Hello Urban, Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 12:05:00 PM, you wrote: U Tuesday, June 8, 2004, Maggie wrote: A Did you send the message in HTML or plain text format? This is possibly the crux. I sent the link yesterday when we were going back and forth witht he various HTML/Plain Text changes, so I do not know. Is there a way to find out? U Send messages to yourself, using the different editors, then read the U messages using the different users. U But to save you the trouble I just did that, Thanks! U and found that if you send U using the HTML-editor you must add hyperlinks using the Add hyperlink U icon if the HTML-viewer is to see them as a hyperlink otherwise it U thinks they are plain text. Thank you! Add Hyperlink is where? Is it in the Edit Mail Message window? I looked under Utilities|Attach Files| and did not see it there. 8-( Somewhere else maybe? -- Maggie Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?
ON Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 3:01:15 PM, you wrote: SE Perhaps that's the problem: we all want a simple email program, but it SE would be nice if it had XYZ. And if everyone's XYZ is different... Simon, That is so true, and in case of TB!, in most cases you do not have to use it if you do not want it. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Being careful, tightening up, and trying to steer the ball will likely cause disaster. Good golfers gain control over the ball by feeling that they are giving up control. Using The Bat! v2.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail Filtering
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Duane, On 08 June 2004, 13:48 -0400 (08/06/200418:48 local time) Duane Lambe [DL] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DL Hi - I've just picked up The Bat! (whatever version's current), and DL jumped on this mailing list to help me get into the interface, etc. Welcome! :-) ...snip DL For the account, I've gone to Incoming Mail, made a new filter, and DL under Filtering Strings, I've entered the following: DL Strings Location Presence DL Reply-to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Kludges Yes I'd use Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and not worry about the regular expressions. DL Will this work on an IMAP box, and if so, what have I missed? It should do... IMAP support is _temperamental_ but improving. Just shout if you have any problems. If you're happy using beta versions I recommend you getting your hands on 2.11.03 (you're probably using 2.11.02) as it has much improved IMAP support. - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMYCBjknq5PWREYNEQJl/ACgm8Y+YLl62NNaAUmD9Bz9Hi+/yxAAoNpx YQEBkqNzt4RMHKioCqeXW8So =qEPV -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Repair Message Base doesn't work
SK On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 13:58:56 -0700 you [DS] typed: SK [...] DSMessages recovered: 54, damaged parts (part.bin) saved: 0 DSProcessing finished. 1 folders processed DS However, it hasn't repaired the problem. I still can't access any of DS the messages in this folder. DS Any ideas on how to repair this folder's message base? Monday, June 7, 2004, 10:43:47 PM, you wrote: SK I had a similar problem with one of my IMAP folders and resolved it by SK simply removing the .tbb file you mentioned. I wouldn't want to delete SK the .tbb file for a local folder, though. Thanks, Sergey. When I delete the .tbb file, though, won't I lose all the emails? I need to be able to access the messages. Should I copy the contents of the .tbb file into a new file and rename it messages.tbb or is there some sort of import procedure for recovering those emails? In other words, how did you remove the .tbb file and then recover the message base? Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
[SPAM] Re: - How to set up batpost properly ? - Bayesian Filter detected spam
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Stephan, On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, at 09:44:29 [GMT+0200] (which was 00:44:29 In San Jose, CA, USA) you wrote: SF Which drives me to another problem: still nothing from RITLabs or the SF local reseller (Mensys): no receipt, no activation code, nothing. I SF registered last Saturday. It's a bit long... Does RIT have a commercial SF service that I could contact (or who would be reading this list)? When I registered it took a month. I finally called CIFNet the US rep for RitLabs, and they said, oh sorry, we'll process it today, and they did. I have no idea why orders get lost, but for some people, they do. - -- Rev. Michael L. Wilson, MBA Philosopher Teacher Critic If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. - - Exploiting The Bat! version 2.11.02 Hamstrung with Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Scanning with Nod32 anti-virus Sifting with SpamPal anti-Spam Hiding behind Outpost Pro Firewall _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML email X / \ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: iQA/AwUBQMYDr22u7N+Qh+ieEQLjMwCg8xGTXE5XbI6enkU3uWwhMdH1C44AniCp EgeZvlaxR64QjxCh3QOiXJRS =84h/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Repair Message Base doesn't work
Hello DW, On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 11:18:07 -0700 you [DS] typed: DS When I delete the .tbb file, though, won't I lose all the emails? You didn't specify whether you had an IMAP or local folder damaged. If it's an IMAP folder, deleting the .tbb file will not harm your messages since they are kept on the server. DS In other words, how did you remove the .tbb file and then recover DS the message base? I highlighted the file in windows explorer and hit Delete. Then I restarted The Bat! and downloaded all messages from the server. The deleted .tbb file stayed in Recycle Bin unless I had all messages recovered (downloaded). Once again, this is not going to work for any of your local folders. Please, make sure that the damaged folder is an IMAP one. Hope it helps, -- Sergey The Bat! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail Filtering
Hello Duane, Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 11:48:05 AM, you wrote: Duane Hi - I've just picked up The Bat! (whatever version's current), Duane and jumped on this mailing list to help me get into the Duane interface, etc. Welcome! :-) Duane I've set up a filter for my Incoming IMAP box, as per the Duane Welcome email, but I'm not sure I'm doing things right. And let me be the first to give you a great big hug for actually reading the Welcome message which meant you read the list rules, and for having a properly configured cut-mark. Now I'm waiting with my fingers crossed that you read the rules concerning replies too! grin Duane ...and I've turned on Regular Expressions under the Options. Don't need the Regular Expressions. That'll break it. -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Tagline of the day: Somewhere in the world, it is 5 o'clock. Using The Bat! 2.11.03 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Top Posting / Cut Mark
Hello Plan9, Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 11:38:23 AM, you wrote: Plan9 It's grey as is should be. And so is your's as long as your Plan9 message is: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii as shown Plan9 by F9. Hmmm. I know I haven't changed any of my charsets. I wonder what's going on. -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Tagline of the day: Software Requirements: Microsoft Windows and a heckuva lot of patience. Using The Bat! 2.11.03 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail Filtering
Hi Martin On Tuesday, June 8, 2004 19:14 our local time, Martin Webster [MW] wrote; MW If you're happy using beta versions I recommend you getting your MW hands on 2.11.03 (you're probably using 2.11.02) as it has much MW improved IMAP support. Sorry to jump in here, but what is the improved IMAP support? All I've seen is that is has an 'IMAP requests watcher'. If there's more than this on the IMAP side, let me know as I keen to 'test' IMAP support! -- Cheers, Chris Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error message from Help screen
Tuesday, June 8, 2004, Maggie wrote: Add Hyperlink is where? Is it in the Edit Mail Message window? I looked under Utilities|Attach Files| and did not see it there. In the Edit Mail Message Window, there is a row of icons; select font and size and such thing. (If you don't see it, make sure you are in the HTML-editor, then go to the View menu and check HTML Toolbar.) In this row there is an icon that looks like a globe and a paper clip -- that's the one. -- Urban Momentum: What you give a person when they are going away. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail Filtering
Hello Chris, On 08 June 2004, 20:09 Chris Weaven [CW] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MW If you're happy using beta versions I recommend you getting your MW hands on 2.11.03 (you're probably using 2.11.02) as it has much MW improved IMAP support. CW Sorry to jump in here, but what is the improved IMAP support? It's working _much_ more reliably in just about every aspect. There are problems still but it's usable. CW All I've seen is that is has an 'IMAP requests watcher'. That's to help identify problems... which it has. CW If there's more than this on the IMAP side, let me know as I keen to CW 'test' IMAP support! Please join in! :-) -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) pgpEL4TXLpdOR.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Mail Filtering
MW I'd use Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and not worry about the MW regular expressions. Did as much, but I can't seem to get it to work... I /did/ put a space after the colon - not sure that that should be in there or not. Also, I'm IMAP-ping an Exchange box - I don't think that should make a difference (it might), but I've been noticing some odd behaviour on this server/account... like now, I can't seem to read any old (still visible, but read) messages in that folder. Every message in the Inbox shows as one particular email, no matter which one I select. New messages don't exhibit this this behaviour, like the mail coming in from this list, for instance. MW If you're happy using beta versions I recommend you getting your hands MW on 2.11.03 (you're probably using 2.11.02) as it has much improved IMAP MW support. I didn't see a location to download this off the main site (my About box just says 2.11). Trouble you for a link? :) Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail Filtering
Hello Martin, Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 8:14:24 PM, you wrote: MW If you're happy using beta versions I recommend you getting your hands MW on 2.11.03 (you're probably using 2.11.02) as it has much improved IMAP MW support. Where do I get this beta? -- Regards, Charles. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail Filtering
Hello nednieuws, Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 11:16:01 PM, you wrote: MW If you're happy using beta versions I recommend you getting your hands MW on 2.11.03 (you're probably using 2.11.02) as it has much improved IMAP MW support. nc Where do I get this beta? Disregard... -- Regards, Charles. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Top Posting / Cut Mark
Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 2:24:50 PM, Leif Gregory wrote: LG Hello Plan9, LG Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 11:38:23 AM, you wrote: Plan9 It's grey as is should be. And so is your's as long as your Plan9 message is: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii as shown Plan9 by F9. LG Hmmm. I know I haven't changed any of my charsets. I wonder what's LG going on. I don't know how to correct it, but I now know what triggers the missing space in the cut mark. Any message that has: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable when viewed in the Rich Text viewer will not display the space. I took a good message with: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit, displayed the source with F9, copied it to a text editor, changed the 7bit to quoted-printable, saved it as a x.eml, imported into TheBat and the space was not displayed in the Rich Text viewer. I did the converse, took a message that had Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable, used F9, copied the source into a text editor, changed quoted-printable to 7bit, saved it as y.eml, imported into TheBat and the space was displayed and everything below the -- was grey. Even Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit displays correctly. So it appears that Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable triggers the undesirable behavior. I changed every setting I could think of and nothing changed this Rich Text viewer behavior. What triggers TheBat to use Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable in a message? I even set ACCOUNT PROPERTIES - MAIL MANAGEMENT to as Quoted-printable and all of my messages still use 7bit. Anyone else seeing this behavior in the Rich Text viewer? -- Regards, Plan9 The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
template problem
Good evening list, I use a QT that has (among other things) %Qinclude=Cds where cds : %TO=%TO=list address%CC= and %Qinclude='RTPOCDL' where RTPOCDL: %TO=''%TO='%OFROMNAME on css-discuss %SubPatt=#1#% list address' and %Qinclude=IE where IE: %IF:%TIME='hh:mm:ss'=04:00:00:%IF:'%TIME=hh:mm:ss'='11:59:59':'Good morning'%-%IF:%TIME='hh:mm:ss'=12:00:00:%IF:'%TIME=hh:mm:ss'='17:59:59':'Good afternoon'%-%IF:%TIME='hh:mm:ss'=18:00:00:%IF:'%TIME=hh:mm:ss'='23:59:59':'Good evening'%-%IF:%TIME='hh:mm:ss'=00:00:00:%IF:'%TIME=hh:mm:ss'='03:59:59':'Hello'%- %TOFNAME, Since upgrading to version 2.11 from 1.63, it doesn't reproduce the name of the recipient, but instead outputs the first digit of the date. So i get: Good evening 3, It was foretold that on 3-6-2004 @ 08:06:21 GMT-0700 (PDT) (which was 17:06:21 where I live) Luc would write: instead of: Good evening Luc, Isn't the template compliant anymore with the new version? -- Best regards, Luc http://www.dzinelabs.com Powered by The Bat! version 2.11 with Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 4 and using the best browser: Opera. Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
In line photo question.
Hi All, Still trying to get a friend comfortable with his new version of the Bat! He called me up earlier and asked me how to imbed an image directly into the message body of an email and I had no idea how to do it (I use the Bat! v1.62i). I'm going have to assume that it involve some html coding, but I don't even how how to begin. The email and the image will be sent together. If html is required what is the location of the image? Thanks in advance for any ideas, suggestions, solutions. -- Best regards, Nick Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail Filtering
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Duane, On 08 June 2004, 16:33 -0400 (08/06/200421:33 local time) Duane Lambe [DL] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MW I'd use Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and not worry about the MW regular expressions. DL Did as much, but I can't seem to get it to work... I /did/ put a space DL after the colon - not sure that that should be in there or not. That's correct; press F9 to see for yourself in the message source. DL Also, I'm IMAP-ping an Exchange box - I don't think that should make a DL difference (it might), but I've been noticing some odd behaviour on this DL server/account... like now, I can't seem to read any old (still DL visible, but read) messages in that folder. Every message in the Inbox DL shows as one particular email, no matter which one I select. New DL messages don't exhibit this this behaviour, like the mail coming in DL from this list, for instance. I think there was a discussion about the problems with Exchange and IMAP last month. However, I didn't watch that thread. Maybe someone else can help? MW If you're happy using beta versions I recommend you getting your hands MW on 2.11.03 (you're probably using 2.11.02) as it has much improved IMAP MW support. DL I didn't see a location to download this off the main site (my About DL box just says 2.11). Trouble you for a link? :) See http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/body.html#tbbeta for information about beta testing and the beta list. - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMY42Dknq5PWREYNEQKZRwCdEm0l717vKusHN/wR5hXKveWH7yoAn3rC vF9qTF39Uhe0+l+IVUCExmX/ =13JK -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TheBat and IMAP IDLE
Hi BatFans Now for a dumb question: Can anyone tell me if The Bat v 2.11.x (or 2.10.x) has IMAP IDLE ?? (which...as I understand it from Mozilla ThunderBird...which I also use...and which has IMAP IDLE...means if you leave your mailer 'on-line'...it will tell you when you have new mail and download it for youMaybe I have got it wrong??) -- Regards, Steve Lovemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 08:13 Wednesday, 9 June 2004 Using The Bat! v2.10.03 (Protocol:usually IMAP) on Windows 98 4.10 Build B Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat ver 2.11.x and IMAP problems; TheBat vs T-Bird
Hi BatPersons Someone asked (sorry...can't find the original message) if there were more IMAP-related problems with TB with versions 2.1.x It may be coincidence, but I had no problems with TB 'till ver 2.11.x (as you can see I am now back to ver 2.10.x). I had database errors...which I was unable to repair, then repeated messages from Windows re Runtime Errors (which I don't understand). Of course...these problems may have had nothing whatsoever to do with IMAP and TB versions 2.11.x...but rather a simple database erroror index file error...which was compounded by the ineptitude of the operator ;-) Anyway...I am now more conscientious about regular backups in TheBat!...a tres cool feature IMO. On another matter...re ThunderBird vs The Bat!...tell me again Allie (and others) what you see as the merits/demerits of both. An obvious difference is TheBat does SO much more...(much of which may be superfluous to many users...eg like DVD players ...or cigarette lighters...in cars )...but could be nice to have anyway...just in case...(Besides...its nice to have options anyway... ;-) -- Regards, Steve Lovemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 08:16 Wednesday, 9 June 2004 Using The Bat! v2.10.03 (Protocol:IMAP for my main account; POP3 for the other two)on Windows 98 4.10 Build B Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Cut mark (was: Mail Filtering)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Leif, On 08 June 2004, 15:46 -0600 (08/06/200422:46 local time) Leif Gregory [LG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LG A ma!!! You were doing so good.. What'd you do with your LG cut-mark / sig delimiter? I could see that one coming! ='( - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMY/Ujknq5PWREYNEQJUTACg9mwp4RyIWFJwSzf5/El3Qx9/vBcAmgNO fqhb9fOgRa6oVXpjP8k1F9gU =0E4y -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
View mode, sorted by and sub sorted
Howdy Flying Rodent fans, Does anyone know of a way to set up a view mode so that it first sorts each of the separate threads by subject and then sorts each message in that thread by received time? What I have currently is this: received thread subject A - - msgA 10:20 | - msgB 10:10 | - msgC 10:00 And what i want to set up is: received thread subject A - - msgA 10:00 | - msgB 10:10 | - msgC 10:20 Currently i can only achieve this manually... I think i have just missed something obvious but for the life of me i can't figure out what. -- Have Fun, | | |en is |\ohop [EMAIL PROTECTED] crashing The Bat! v2.11.03 falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 I tried sniffing coke once, but the ice cubes got stuck in my nose. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: In line photo question.
Nick Ohare, [NO] wrote: NO Still trying to get a friend comfortable with his new version of NO the Bat! He called me up earlier and asked me how to imbed an NO image directly into the message body of an email and I had no idea NO how to do it (I use the Bat! v1.62i). NO I'm going have to assume that it involve some html coding, Yes, it would. NO but I don't even how how to begin. The email and the image will be NO sent together. If html is required what is the location of the NO image? Open the editor and then go to and select Options/Message Format/HTML only. A new toolbar will appear just above the message body field. To the right of the text formatting toolbar buttons is the 'insert image' button. Use that to insert your image at the current position of the cursor. -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.11.03 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgpnQ9l0tHH1l.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat and IMAP IDLE
Sl, [S] wrote: S Can anyone tell me if The Bat v 2.11.x (or 2.10.x) has IMAP IDLE ?? S (which...as I understand it from Mozilla ThunderBird...which I also S use...and which has IMAP IDLE...means if you leave your mailer S 'on-line'...it will tell you when you have new mail and download it S for youMaybe I have got it wrong??) Yes. TB! can be setup to do this with your IMAP mail. Just set it to synchronize headers and text or full sync. -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.11.03 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgpGCcicJo0IB.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View mode, sorted by and sub sorted
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Ben, On 08 June 2004, 23:47 Ben lineone [BL] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BL And what i want to set up is: BL received BL thread subject A - - msgA 10:00 BL | - msgB 10:10 BL | - msgC 10:20 BL Currently i can only achieve this manually... I think i have just BL missed something obvious but for the life of me i can't figure out BL what. Oldest message begins thread - see Options | Preferences | Messages subject/from/to. However, I get what you want when threading by reference. - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMZEUzknq5PWREYNEQJ7MwCg/tWlzss36URW03YVDQq3GK7kDykAoLP2 0ijJDfJUd2hTu/fQ9sKSSSpZ =HYc0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat ver 2.11.x and IMAP problems; TheBat vs T-Bird
Sl, [S] wrote: S On another matter...re ThunderBird vs The Bat!...tell me again S Allie (and others) what you see as the merits/demerits of both. An S obvious difference is TheBat does SO much more...(much of which may S be superfluous to many users...eg like DVD players ...or cigarette S lighters...in cars )...but could be nice to have anyway...just in S case...(Besides...its nice to have options anyway... ;-) I think my having to use ThunderBird has been misunderstood. There are many features in TB! that ThunderBird lacks and I don't see them as nice features to just have anyway. I find them *essential* to effectively and efficiently managing my mail. All ThunderBird has is good/reliable IMAP support. It has nothing else really. There are some extensions currently available, but none that offer any real functionality. When I couldn't read any messages with TB! on my slow connection at work, ThunderBird was a better solution since it converted my situation from one of not being able to read IMAP mail from work to being able to do so. ThunderBird proved to be a solution for me at this very basic level. I'd never really entertain comparing the two once you're up and going with reading mail as I now am with TB! at work. Now that TB!'s IMAP works well enough for me to read mail from work, the thought of using ThunderBird is now laughable. They simply don't compare once we get beyond basic fetching and reading of messages. -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.11.03 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgpqxuUOh1UDr.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat ver 2.11.x and IMAP problems; TheBat vs T-Bird
Allie Martin, [AM] wrote: AM There are some extensions currently available, but none that offer AM any real functionality. Ooops! In all fairness, I forgot about the Enigmail/EnigMIME extension. This one was nice to use since you could autoPGP/MIME sign and also autoverify signed messages. I really enjoyed this but it's really no great loss when compared to all that TB! functionality I was not able to tap on while at the office. -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.11.03 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp5UYiUPu5Xu.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: multi-language templates
On Tue 8 June 2004, 20:15:18 +1000, Cyrille wrote: The first tests do not look well. During the last two hours I crashed TB exactly nine times (got frozen and I had to kill it). There seems to be a conflict between different QT or a bug with the %LANGUAGE macro. I did not narrow down yet what might be the reason. I think I will start a new thread with this question. Good idea! When I am trying to debug QTs, I find it useful to put temporary statements in that print out in the message to allow me to follow what is happening. For example you might put in Language is %_SetLang or a statement at the start and end of each QT like New_EN QT starts New_En QT ends Then you will know where the process gets to before it hangs or gets in an infinite loop or something. -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Nickname (Handle)
Hi All I have individuals in my address book whose e-mail is something like [EMAIL PROTECTED], but they go by first name Jim. I thought the nickname(handle) field would allow me to use Hi %ABToHandle=%ToFName, to get the first name I wanted. The problem is when there are two or more Jims I get a duplicate handle error. Is there anyway around this? -- Thanks, Terry Using the Bat! 2.11.02 under Windows XP Service Pack 1 2600 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: View mode, sorted by and sub sorted
Howdy Martin, Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 11:57:19 PM, Martin wrotened: Martin Oldest message begins thread - see Options | Preferences | Martin Messages subject/from/to. However, I get what you want when Martin threading by reference. Sorry i wasn't clear. I do thread by reference. i then sort the threads by subject. what i am trying to do is get the oldest message at the top what i seem to be getting is that whilst the first message will be a the the bottom of the thread tree, it will then go to the newest - oldest in the tree from that, i want it the opposite way and i cant seem to do that, the option you suggested is already checked. You as confused as me? -- Have Fun, | | |en is |\ohop crashing The Bat! v2.11.03 falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 A TV can insult your intelligence, but nothing rubs it in like a computer. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mailbox checking
During the day, I have The Bat! set to check incoming mail frequently. My computer is on 24/7, but at night, there is no need to check mail at all. In the interest of minimizing the load on my ISP, is there a way to override or work around the mailbox checking settings in Account Properties based on the time of day? -- Code 2 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! version 2.11 on Windows XP Service Pack 1 In the front yard of a funeral home: Drive carefully. Well wait. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail Filtering
On Tuesday, June 08, 2004, Leif Gregory wrote... Duane ...and I've turned on Regular Expressions under the Options. Don't need the Regular Expressions. That'll break it. Would do in this example, Duane put Reply-To:.*TBUDL The .* wouldn't match anything if regular expressions were off, so it'd try to find the string: Reply-To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Which it wouldn't find. But as others have suggested, just use the same string, but without the .*... Unless the normal filter can do wild card matching without regex enabled... If so, I missed it. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 I'll have one brain on drugs with bacon, toast and juice. pgpoBWrk7EKnU.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: In line photo question.
Hi Allie, For the second time today, thanks for sharing your knowledge. NO Still trying to get a friend comfortable with his new version of NO the Bat! He called me up earlier and asked me how to imbed an NO image directly into the message body of an email and I had no idea NO how to do it (I use the Bat! v1.62i). AM Open the editor and then go to and select Options/Message Format/HTML AM only. AM A new toolbar will appear just above the message body field. To the AM right of the text formatting toolbar buttons is the 'insert image' AM button. Use that to insert your image at the current position of the AM cursor. -- Best regards, Nick Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Nickname (Handle)
Hello rich, On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 20:16:01 -0400 you [rg] typed: [...] TGM The problem is when there are two or more Jims I get a TGM duplicate handle error. TGM Is there anyway around this? rg I was wondering the same thing myself and as I read your message I rg thought maybe I had an answer, but it failed. Why then am I rg replying? Maybe someone else can take the idea and make it work... Kind of...I combine Cyrillic and Latin letters in order to avoid the duplicate handle error. My recipients never notice. :) I believe The Bat! won't allow duplicate handles because it uses them to for easy access to a contact's e-mail address. Try to create a new message and put someone's handle in the To: line. Then press Tab. I should fill in the To: line with the contact's full name (if there is one) and an e-mail address. -- Sergey The Bat! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat ver 2.11.x and IMAP problems; TheBat vs T-Bird
Hello Allie, On Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 5:58 PM, Allie Martin wrote: AM Sl, [S] wrote: S On another matter...re ThunderBird vs The Bat!...tell me again S Allie (and others) what you see as the merits/demerits of both. An S obvious difference is TheBat does SO much more...(much of which may S be superfluous to many users...eg like DVD players ...or cigarette S lighters...in cars )...but could be nice to have anyway...just in S case...(Besides...its nice to have options anyway... ;-) AM All ThunderBird has is good/reliable IMAP support. It has nothing AM else really. There are some extensions currently available, but AM none that offer any real functionality. Agreed. I've also been using Thunderbird off-and-on for my IMAP accounts because it (a)has extremely stable IMAP support, and (b)is free. But beyond reliable bare-bones functions, it really doesn't have much to offer at this point. When I'm using Thunderbird, I particularly miss the message templates, the elegant handling of identities, and the super-flexible filtering. Everyone probably has their own lists of features of TB! that they've grown to find essential, but those are the first that spring to mind for me. AM Now that TB!'s IMAP works well enough for me to read mail from AM work, the thought of using ThunderBird is now laughable. They AM simply don't compare once we get beyond basic fetching and reading AM of messages. While I'm very excited at the prospect of TB! providing reliable IMAP support, I'm personally not quite ready to break out the champagne yet. I've experienced enough intermittent bizarre IMAP behavior with TB! that I'm unwilling to un-install Thunderbird and rely solely on TB! for IMAP at this point, and I certainly won't be using TB! on my work machine until it is at least 95% stable. Hopefully that level of stability will be reached in the next release (I just installed the latest beta on my 'play' machine and it looks good so far -- fingers crossed!). -- Sean H. using TB! 2.11.03 on Windows XP Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: In line photo question.
Hello Nick, Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 6:06:41 PM, you wrote: N Still trying to get a friend comfortable with his new version of the N Bat! He called me up earlier and asked me how to imbed an image N directly into the message body of an email and I had no idea how to do N it (I use the Bat! v1.62i). I just tried this by changing to the HTML editor in Options|Preferences|Editor/Viewer, opening a new mail, writing whatever, then clicking on the little icon on the edit bar that says 'insert picture', navigate around to find the image, and voila! Now, you can't really move it around a lot, but it is there, and not just as an attachment. No coding. 8-)) -- HTH, Maggie Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Error message from Help screen
Hello Urban, Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 2:59:29 PM, you wrote: Add Hyperlink is where? Is it in the Edit Mail Message window? I looked under Utilities|Attach Files| and did not see it there. U In the Edit Mail Message Window, there is a row of icons; select font U and size and such thing. (If you don't see it, make sure you are in the U HTML-editor, then go to the View menu and check HTML Toolbar.) In this U row there is an icon that looks like a globe and a paper clip -- that's U the one. Yes. I see how to accomplish that in the HTML editor, but how to do this in the Plain Text (Windows Proportional)?? That's where my unclickable links were showing. I 'spoke' to Allie about this and he was not seeing the same thing I was reporting about this. Despite enjoying the ability to select and drag text around the window to different areas and all the other wonderful editing bells and whistles, I have decided to continue to use the old reliable MicroEd. I had not realized that the other editors did not wrap the text the way I created it, wrapping to the window instead. There will be emails where I use the new features (Tables! Italics!) but not many, and not to this List for sure. 8-)) -- Best regards, Maggie Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Nickname (Handle)
Hello rich, On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 23:49:21 -0400 you [rg] typed: rg OK, I open my address book and open the properties for one of the rg Eds in there. How do I give him a Cyrillic (or Latin) E or rg d? You can use a character map to copy and paste the characters you need. I have a different keyboard layout because I type in Russian a lot. Consider these two names: Ed and d ^ The Cyrillic character The Bat!'s address book will accept both as handles. -- Sergey The Bat! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Nickname (Handle)
Hello rich, On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 00:40:15 -0400 you [rg] typed: rg That will work for me... I suppose there'll be macros or templates rg where this won't be a good thing but I cannot imagine any examples rg off the top of my head. Yes, there will. Moreover, I can assume that the combined characters Ed's e-mail client or web browser might not recognize letters pasted from the Cyrillic charset. Yet, that's the only solution I have for now. -- Sergey The Bat! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
