Re: Do not play sound

2005-09-13 Thread Urban
Tuesday, September 13, 2005, Chris wrote:

 I have a filter called My List Messages. It selects only mailing
 list messages that were sent from my e-mail account and marks them as
 read (I wrote them; I don't need to read them again...). If, on a mail
 check, only these kind of messages are downloaded, I don't want to
 sound to play (There is no new mail to be read; ergo, no sound should
 be played.).

If I understand you correctly, you want to play sounds for all other
filters and want My List Messages to be silent.

Take a look in Account - Sorting Office/Filters - Actions; there is an
option Play a sound.
You could create a short soundfile, using the Windows recorder for
example, consisting of nothing but silence and point to that.

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Re: User Level Skin Control

2005-09-13 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Chris,

On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 22:05:25 -0500GMT (13-9-2005, 5:05 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

C Is there user level skin control? For example, if I want skin A and
C another user wants skin B, is there any way to do this?

The skin is stored in the tbuser.def file in the mail directory. So
when every user has his own mail directory (like when every user uses
his own XP account) the answer is yes.
When every user uses the same mail directory and you've created
different users in the old TB style than the answer is no.

C Suppose I am not an administrator, can I change the skin?

You can use a windows account with restricted rights and still change
the skin.
When you've created different users in TB with one administrator, then
I don't know.

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Re: GMail certificate not being 'sent' or something

2005-09-13 Thread Michael Geyer
Hi Stuart and list,

On Monday, September 12, 2005 at 15:46:22 GMT -0500 (which was 22:46
where I live) Stuart Cuddy wrote (at least in parts) and made these
valuable points on the subject of GMail certificate not being 'sent'
or something:

  Could someone explain why it is necessary to have a certificate for
 this.

Hmm - dunno exactly, but some time ago same thing happened to me.
After an update I lost all Thawte Root Certificates from my adressbook
Trusted Roots. Getting rid of my old TB! installation and installing
anew from last official version brought them all back again.

With S/MIME certificates there is a certification path which is
followed by TB! when verifying the actual certificate. If one
(intermediate or root) certificate is missing in the chain, TB! will
complain (and with TLS not accept the connection). Usually the root
certificates are supplied by Ritlabs and installed when you install
TB! on your machine.

Why they get lost some times? I have no clue at all.

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charset problem

2005-09-13 Thread Ludovic LE MOAL
Good day All,

I have a problem of character set in templates. I want to write to
someone in UTF-8 or in ISO-8859-1.

In my template, I put this :

%CHARSET=UTF-8

or

%CHARSET=ISO-8859-1

It works just fine when I create a new message. When I save it as a
draft and when I open it again, the character set is no more UTF-8 or
ISO-8859-1 but Windows-1252. Or even US-ASCII when there no accent in
the message but that's not problem for me.

What can I do to preserve the right charset ?

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Re: The best mail services provider for using with TB and online by webmail ?

2005-09-13 Thread Cory
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 00:46:17 +0200, WilWilWil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

An idea ?

GMail?

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Re[2]: GMail certificate not being 'sent' or something

2005-09-13 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Michael,
  A reminder of what Michael Geyer typed on:
  Tuesday, September 13, 2005 at 11:12:28 GMT +0200

MG With S/MIME certificates there is a certification path which is
MG followed by TB! when verifying the actual certificate.

So this is strictly S/MIME related. I do not use any sort of
encryption so I guess this is why it is not an issue for me.

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Re: Do not play sound

2005-09-13 Thread Chris

Urban @ 9/13/2005 2:22:00 AM
Do not play sound mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 If I understand you correctly, you want to play sounds for all other
 filters and want My List Messages to be silent.

Not really. I want the default sound to play unless all messages tell
TB not to.

 Take a look in Account - Sorting Office/Filters - Actions; there
 is an option Play a sound. You could create a short soundfile,
 using the Windows recorder for example, consisting of nothing but
 silence and point to that.

No, I don't think that will work. What I want to do is override the
Account Sound settings. That way I don't have to edit all my other
filters and add sounds.

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Re: User Level Skin Control

2005-09-13 Thread Chris

Roelof Otten @ 9/13/2005 3:30:49 AM
User Level Skin Control mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Is there user level skin control? For example, if I want skin A and
 another user wants skin B, is there any way to do this?

 The skin is stored in the tbuser.def file in the mail directory. So
 when every user has his own mail directory (like when every user
 uses his own XP account) the answer is yes.

Is the a way to change this settings using the GUI, or must I edit
tbuser.def. If I must edit it, are there instructions somewhere?

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Re: Do not play sound

2005-09-13 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Chris,

On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 08:49:10 -0500 GMT (13/09/2005, 20:49 +0700 GMT),
Chris wrote:

 Take a look in Account - Sorting Office/Filters - Actions; there
 is an option Play a sound. You could create a short soundfile,
 using the Windows recorder for example, consisting of nothing but
 silence and point to that.

C No, I don't think that will work. What I want to do is override the
C Account Sound settings. That way I don't have to edit all my other
C filters and add sounds.

I think it will work. What you need to do is point to that silent
sound file only in the same filter that marks your own messages as
read.

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Re: Do not play sound

2005-09-13 Thread Martin Webster on tbudl
Hello Chris, 

On 13 September 2005, 04:12 you wrote:

 Is there any way to tell The Bat! NOT to play the new mail sound
 when a message arrives?

You can disable sound on a folder-by-folder basis, which may do what
you want, e.g. disable messages filtered to list folders.

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Re: Do not play sound

2005-09-13 Thread Chris

Thomas Fernandez @ 9/13/2005 11:16:14 AM
Do not play sound mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 No, I don't think that will work. What I want to do is override the
 Account Sound settings. That way I don't have to edit all my other
 filters and add sounds.

 I think it will work. What you need to do is point to that silent
 sound file only in the same filter that marks your own messages as
 read.

Thanks. I'll try that (I'm doing it now :-) ).

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Re: Do not play sound

2005-09-13 Thread Chris

Chris @ 9/13/2005 12:36:33 PM
Do not play sound mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

C No, I don't think that will work. What I want to do is override the
C Account Sound settings. That way I don't have to edit all my other
C filters and add sounds.

T I think it will work. What you need to do is point to that silent
T sound file only in the same filter that marks your own messages as
T read.

C Thanks. I'll try that (I'm doing it now :-) ).

Nope. That still plays the account default sound. Sounds like a wish
to me...

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Re: GMail certificate not being 'sent' or something

2005-09-13 Thread Michael Geyer
Hi Stuart and list,

On Tuesday, September 13, 2005 at 07:28:58 GMT -0500 (which was 14:28
where I live) Stuart Cuddy wrote (at least in parts) and made these
valuable points on the subject of GMail certificate not being 'sent'
or something:


MG With S/MIME certificates there is a certification path which is
MG followed by TB! when verifying the actual certificate.

 So this is strictly S/MIME related.

As opposed to PGP: yes. But as you can see from Marten's problem and
my similar experience this kind of certification is used with TLS
(SSL) transport-encryption too. (X-509 certificate comes to mind,
but I'm _not_ an expert regarding encryption by any means).

 I do not use any sort of encryption so I guess this is why it is not
 an issue for me.

Yep. Just keep in mind that a secure connection (like G-mail) _is_
encrypted.

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Accessing AB information

2005-09-13 Thread Maurice Snellen
Listmembers:

I know there are a lot of fields to access information in the
addressbook, but I've noticed that I can only get at the first e-mail
address with the %ABTOEMAIL macro.

I'm prepairing a mailing to send to a number of my contacts to ask
them if the information I have listed for them is correct/complete and
would like to access the complete contents of this field. Is there any
way to get at this?

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Re: Do not play sound

2005-09-13 Thread Jon Polish
On Tuesday, September 13, 2005, 1:38:56 PM, Chris wrote:


C Nope. That still plays the account default sound. Sounds like a wish
C to me...

  Hi Chris:

  Actually, I think there is something wrong with the sounds. In v2.x
  you could set separate sounds for different accounts. I have not
  been able to do so from 3.x on. The sound that is triggered for
  incoming mail on account A is the same sound that is heard for
  incoming mail on account B. I don't know if is related to your
  problem, but it sure sounds like it is.

  If memory serves, this has been reported under BT.

  Jon

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Re: Accessing AB information

2005-09-13 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Maurice,

On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

MS I'm prepairing a mailing to send to a number of my contacts to ask
MS them if the information I have listed for them is correct/complete and
MS would like to access the complete contents of this field. Is there any
MS way to get at this?

I put the ones I want to send the same message to in a separate group
and then do a File/mass mailing.

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Re: charset problem

2005-09-13 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Ludovic,

On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 13:57:02 +0200GMT (13-9-2005, 13:57 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

LLM What can I do to preserve the right charset ?

You can't. TB doesn't remember that. Only thing you can do is to
select the charset manually when editing.

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Re: User Level Skin Control

2005-09-13 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Chris,

On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 08:54:34 -0500GMT (13-9-2005, 15:54 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

C Is the a way to change this settings using the GUI, or must I edit
C tbuser.def. If I must edit it, are there instructions somewhere?

  View - Themes

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Re: User Level Skin Control

2005-09-13 Thread Chris

Roelof Otten @ 9/13/2005 5:40:41 PM
User Level Skin Control mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Is the a way to change this settings using the GUI, or must I edit
 tbuser.def. If I must edit it, are there instructions somewhere?

   View - Themes

That's the theme, not the skin. When I said skin, I meant icons
(batskin.xml).

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Re: Do not play sound

2005-09-13 Thread Chris

Jon Polish @ 9/13/2005 2:32:56 PM
Do not play sound mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Actually, I think there is something wrong with the sounds. In v2.x
 you could set separate sounds for different accounts. I have not
 been able to do so from 3.x on. The sound that is triggered for
 incoming mail on account A is the same sound that is heard for
 incoming mail on account B. I don't know if is related to your
 problem, but it sure sounds like it is.

If that was the case, it seems to be fixed. I have two accounts with
different sounds. When I get a message in either the sound is played.
If, during the same mail check, both accounts receive a message, both
sounds will be played.

Perhaps the behavior you describe has been fixed.

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Re[4]: GMail certificate not being 'sent' or something

2005-09-13 Thread z5worg

Monday, September 12, 2005, Michael Acklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 .

 Make sure you have the following set up:

 Send Mail:

  Server: smtp.gmail.com
  Authentication: SMTP Authentication Checked
  Specific Settings: User Name and Password
  Connection: Secure to Regular Port (STARTTLS)*
  Port: 587

Does Secure connection for email requires that it be offered by the ISP?
Or one can simply configure and use the secure connection -- independent
of the ISP?


 Receive Mail:

  Server: pop.gmail.com
  Authentication: Regular
  User:
  Password:
  Connection: Secure to Dedicated Port {TLS)*
  Port: 995

Same question for POP3.

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Re: Accessing AB information

2005-09-13 Thread Maurice Snellen
On Tuesday, September 13, 2005 at 21:51 Richard Wakeford wrote:

 I put the ones I want to send the same message to in a separate group
 and then do a File/mass mailing.

I think you misunderstand. This is how I go about the mailing itself
too, but my question is about the content of the mailing that I'm
creating. I've made a QT that, in part, looks like this:

-- Persoonlijk --
Titel/aanhef: %ABTONAMEPREFIX
Voornaam: %ABTOFIRSTNAME
Tussenvoegsel...: %ABTOMIDDLENAME
Achternaam..: %ABTOLASTNAME
Achtervoegsel...: %ABTONAMESUFFIX

Which produces an overview of the contents of the addressbook entry
for the addressee currently processed by the mailing.

The problem is that %ABTOEMAIL only outputs the first e-mail address
entered in the field, and I'd like to display the entire contents of
this field in the overview.

Is there any way to get the full contents of the e-mail field from the
AB into a mail?

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