Re: RSS feeds
Hello Stefan, >> how can I add RSS feeds into The Bat (9 or 10) and have them each its own >> folder? > What do you mean? Each RSS is stored in its own folder currently... Wrote a bit too quick... they're stored indeed in its own folder each, but under an automatically new created account "RSS Subscriptions". I tried to create them as part of an existing mail-account where they would fit contentually. That failed. Kind regards, Gunivortus -- Kind regards, Gunivortus Goos The Bat! Professional 64 bit, version 9.5.1 Windows Pro 64 bit version 10, build nr. 22000 NordVPN Core in a Raspberry PI 4 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RSS feeds
Hello, how can I add RSS feeds into The Bat (9 or 10) and have them each its own folder? -- Kind regards, Gunivortus Goos Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Delete 'older than'
Hello Adria, > It can be done with filters. Either "date of" and/or "header field, date" as > the condition and "delete message" as the action. The deleted messages will > end up in "Trash", so you need to purge and compact "Trash" afterwards. Will try that. Thanks. However, it may need some 'investifation'. The last filters I created must be some 5 years ago. :-) Since then I just stick to them. -- Kind regards, Gunivortus Goos The Bat! Professional 64 bit, version 9.5.1 Windows Pro 64 bit version 10, build nr. 22000 NordVPN Core in a Raspberry PI 4 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Delete 'older than'
Hello, is there an option to delete messages that are older than a certain date? I've over 7000 messages in my inbound, down to 2014. I'd like to delete all from before 2019. -- Kind regards, Gunivortus Goos The Bat! Professional 64 bit, version 9.5.1 Windows 11 NordVPN Core in a Raspberry PI 4 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Spamfilter
Hello, which recent alternatives exist for Antispamsniper? -- Kind regards, Gunivortus Goos The Bat! Professional 64 bit, version 9.5.1 Windows Pro 64 bit version 10, build nr. 19042 NordVPN Core in a Raspberry PI 4 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: mark as read
Hello Adrian, > Try using Mail Dispatcher so that you only get the headers and can decide > which ones to actually retrieve. Just append "/spam" to your username to > access the junk / spam folder instead of the INBOX. The PC on which The Bat! runs, connects every three minutes for mail at the server for all my accounts. When I switch to that PC the mail is already there. > Otherwise, you need to play with the sorting office filters Tried that, setting a mail read flag. Now checking if that works. Still don't know, why Antispamsniper does not its job here, although I marked many dozens of spam mails with identical adresses as spam. I have to move all spam to the junk folder by hand. But that's another chapter. :-) -- Kind regards, Gunivortus Goos The Bat! Professional 64 bit, version 9.5.1 Windows Pro 64 bit version 10, build nr. 19042 NordVPN Core in a Raspberry PI 4 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: mark as read
Hello Maggie, > It's the first choice under Flags, in the dropdown. Thanks, found it. -- Kind regards, Gunivortus Goos The Bat! Professional 64 bit, version 9.5.1 Windows Pro 64 bit version 10, build nr. 19042 NordVPN Core in a Raspberry PI 4 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: mark as read
Hello Jack, GG>> How can I get it that all mails in the Junk folder are by default GG>> marked as read? > Are you familiar with "Sorting Office/Filters"? You can create a filter for > the > Junk folder so that every incoming Junk message is marked as "read" as they > come > in. I'm somewhat familiar with it as incoming mail is sorted to different subfolders. Yet, I did not see the option 'mark as read' in the available options there. Kind regards, Gunivortus -- Kind regards, Gunivortus Goos The Bat! Professional 64 bit, version 9.5.1 Windows Pro 64 bit version 10, build nr. 19042 NordVPN Core in a Raspberry PI 4 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
mark as read
Hello, How can I get it that all mails in the Junk folder are by default marked as read? -- Kind regards, Gunivortus Goos The Bat! Professional 64 bit, version 9.5.1 Windows Pro 64 bit version 10, build nr. 19042 NordVPN Core in a Raspberry PI 4 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager default app
Hello Stefan, >> how can I get Voyager rhe default mailclient at my tablet? >> It is not in the list of possible choices. > Voyager cannot be set as the default email client using a conventional way > because it's not installed as it's required. > A, pity, but thanks. I hoped, I could get rid of the bloody Windows Mail every time I click a mail-to link. -- Kind regards, Gunivortus The Bat! Professional 64 bit, version 9.4.4 Windows Pro 64 bit version 10, build nr. 19042 NordVPN vs. 6.38.13.0 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Voyager default app
Hello, how can I get Voyager rhe default mailclient at my tablet? It is not in the list of possible choices. -- Kind regards, Gunivortus Goos The Bat! Professional 64 bit, version 9.4.4 Windows Pro 64 bit version 10, build nr. 19043 NordVPN vs. 6.38.13.0 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager install
Hello Peter Meyns, >> Is there a short and easy way to get in Voyager the accounts >> and settings I have in TB at my desktop? > Yes. In TB! on your desktop go to Menu - Tools and create a backup of > the account(s) and settings you want to use with Voyager. In the new > installation select "Restore" and point to the .tbk file you created > before. Thanks. Will do that. -- Kind regards, Gunivortus Goos The Bat! Professional 64 bit, version 9.4.4 Windows Pro 64 bit version 10, build nr. 19042 NordVPN vs. 6.38.13.0 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Voyager install
Hello, Shortly before installing Voyager on my Windows 10 tablet... Is there a short and easy way to get in Voyager the accounts and settings I have in TB at my desktop? -- Kind regards, Gunivortus The Bat! Professional 64 bit, version 9.4.4 Windows Pro 64 bit version 10, build nr. 19042 NordVPN vs. 6.38.13.0 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Site dowload speed
Hello Stefan, > 64 bit: https://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_64_9-2-3.msi Download completed after 19 seconds. -- Kind regards, Gunivortus Goos The Bat! Professional 64 bit, version 9.2.3.4 (BETA) Windows Pro 64 bit version 10, build nr. 18363 NordVPN vs. 6.30.8.0 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Crash when using "Open reply" on sent e-mail
Hello Peter Meyns, >> Why can I read your PGP encoded message, although, AFAIK, >> no PGP is installed here that could decode it. > The message is not encrypted, merely signed. Without PGP installed you > won't be able to verify the signature though. Ah, thanks, understood. I will not install PGP. -- Kind regards, Gunivortus Goos The Bat! Professional 64 bit, version 9.2.2.9 (BETA) Windows Pro 64 bit version 10, build nr. 18363 NordVPN vs. 6.30.8.0 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Crash when using "Open reply" on sent e-mail
Hello Stefan, ... just curious ... > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Fixed for the next Beta, thank you! :-) Why can I read your PGP encoded message, although, AFAIK, no PGP is installed here that could decode it. -- Kind regards, Gunivortus Goos The Bat! Professional 64 bit, version 9.2.2.9 (BETA) Windows Pro 64 bit version 10, build nr. 18363 NordVPN vs. 6.30.8.0 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v9.2.1
Hello Stefan, > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_64_9-2-1.msi seamlessly installed and running since a few minutes. Thanks. Will, as always, watch for unusual behavior, I hope, in my simple use, I will have nothing to report. :-) -- Kind regards, Gunivortus Goos The Bat! Professional 64 bit, version 9.2.1 Windows Pro 64 bit version 10, build nr. 18363 NordVPN vs. 6.30.10.0 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Future of TB* mailing lists
Hello Maggie, > When I look around and see everyone doing mail (poorly) on their > iThings, I do wonder if we aren't all dinosaurs because we write > in full sentences with a proper email program. Yes, for me it is also long ago when I started with The Bat! Actually, it is so long ago, I really don't remember anymore which was my first version. Still, being over 70, I don't really feel like a dinosaur. :-D However, both on PC, notebook, tablet and phone I still try to write full sentences instead of using those 'silly' abbreviations like yw, tx, etc. Mmm... thinking that over, I might be a dinosaur after all. -- Kind regards, Gunivortus The Bat! Professional 64 bit, version 9.1.18.3 (BETA) Windows Pro 64 bit version 10, build nr. 18363 NordVPN vs. 6.27.11.0 Current version is 8.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply all quoting selected text
Hello Andrew Savchenko, > Here we go: https://i.imgur.com/YoFRdGV.png I don't have that option between 'Reply to All' and 'Forward'. -- Kind regards, Gunivortus Goos The Bat! Professional 64 bit, version 9.1.18.3 (BETA) Windows Pro 64 bit version 10, build nr. 18363 NordVPN vs. 6.27.11.0 Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Deleted messages
Hello Thomas, > Highlight the folder from which they were deleted. > In menu on the top, go to Folder / Browse Deleted Messages. > Highlight those messages you want to Undelete and hit the DEL key. Thanks! -- Kind regards, Gunivortus Goos The Bat! Professional 64 bit, version 8.8.9.12 (BETA) Windows Pro 64 bit version 10, build nr. 18362 NordVPN vs. 6.22.6.0 Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Deleted messages
Hello, where is the option to restore just by hand deleted messages from the Trash folder? -- Kind regards, Gunivortus Goos The Bat! Professional 64 bit, version 8.8.9.12 (BETA) Windows Pro 64 bit version 10, build nr. 18362 NordVPN vs. 6.22.6.0 Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Meaning?
Hello Jernej, >> What has gone wrong? > The file might be corrupted - try using Folder -> Maintenance centre ->> Check integrity/Repair Thanks! I already got suggestions in a PM by Alexander Petrari and did so. It helped, the problem is solved. (Creating a new folder, copying all messages from the problem folder to it, removing the message base from the problem folder after closing TB, and after starting TB again, moving the messages back). A minute ago I did what you suggested, and there were 2 corrupted folders found and repaired of which I didn't know. Would be nice to have that e.g. in a weekly schedule at closing or starting TB. -- Kind regards, Gunivortus Goos The Bat! Professional 64 bit, version 8.6.0.15 (BETA) Windows Pro 64 bit version 10, build nr. 17134 NordVPN vs. 6.17.6.0 Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Meaning?
Hello, all of a sudden, this morning, awhile after starting The Bat, I get repeatedly this pop up message on my screen: Cannot read the base header (Folder: Inbox; File: %WDIR%\Account-G\Inbox\MESSAGES.TBB Yet, I still get mail at that account and can read and answer it. What has gone wrong? -- Kind regards, Gunivortus The Bat! Professional 64 bit, version 8.6.0.12 (BETA) Windows Pro 64 bit version 10, build nr. 17134 NordVPN vs. 6.17.6.0 Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Error maíntenance
Hi, Quite awhile already (months) I see this error. What can I do to solve the problem? Maintenance Center: Error writing file C:\Users\Name\AppData\Roaming\The Bat! Pwd\autobackup.tbk Could not write to file C:\Users\Name\AppData\Roaming\The Bat! Pwd\autobackup.tbk -- Kind regards, Gunivortus Goos The Bat! Professional 64 bit, version 8.0.14.6 (BETA) Windows Pro 64 bit version 10, build nr. 15063 NordVPN vs. 6.8.10.0 Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: GMAIL account using The Bat!
>> I am resurrecting this old thread as after a long period of access to >> my GMAIL account via TB! I bought a "smartphone" It told me some >> unauthorized access had been attempted from outside my area and to >> change the password. > Just a remark: This happens to me often. Not only when I use a new > device but also when I log in from another country, and I travel a > lot. > You don't need to change your password. Just confirm "It was me." Then > all is fine. This happens to me too, also in almost all social media. and it is not because I travel, but because I use VPN. Such confirmations are just short, nonetheless, it is annoying getting that every day, even more if you your e.g. a PC, a tablet and a phone which use different VPN servers. Regards, Guus Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Links aren't opened
Hi, as of today, clicking on hyperlinks in mails do not open anymore the related webpage anymore. A suggestion how to get it working again, would be welcome. The Bat! Professional Edition Version 7.4.16 (64-bit) is running here under Windows 10 Pro. Regards, Guus Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Major problems
Some solving suggestions would be welcome ... Because my work PC is not 100 % stable anymore, I bought a new one. Both PCs are running under Windows 10 Pro 64 bit. While slowly installing / transferring my programs from the old to the new PC, I did the same with The Bat!. First I did a clean install with the package thebat_64_7.4.16 msi. Because I had the registration keyblock in the clipboard memory, the program was easy registered. Then I restored the backup made with The Bat! at the old PC, to get back alll settings and mail. Two problems appeared: 1. For all accounts TB writes in the logs: 27-Jun-17, 11:57:50: FETCH - receiving mail messages 27-Jun-17, 11:57:50: FETCH - Connecting to POP3 server on port 995 !27-Jun-17, 11:57:51: FETCH - Could not connect to the server The connections are all using TLS. Although the program is accepted by my AVG Total Protection (which settings are exactly the same as at the old PC) and my other protection programs (which are also identical), no connection could be established, not even after the programs were deactivated temporary. 2. Sometimes directly, sometimes after few minutes The Bat! is closed by Windows, I did not find some error.log by Windows, don't know where to look for that exactly. The thebat64_Exceptions.log writes: Date: 27 Jun 2017 12:02:44 OS: Windows 10 X64 (AMD or Intel) build 15063 PhysMemFreeTotal: 13794/16317 MB VirtMemFreeTotal: 134217278/134217727 MB MAPI #0: Windows Live Hotmail [Hotmail]; Path: C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\hmmapi.dll (valid) MAPI #1: [Software]; Path: (not valid) MAPI #2: The Bat! [The Bat!]; Path: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\tbmapi32.dll (not valid) MAPI #3: The Bat! Simple MAPI 32-bit [The Bat! Simple MAPI 32-bit]; Path: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\tbmapi32.dll (not valid) MAPI #4: The Bat! Simple MAPI 64-bit [The Bat! Simple MAPI 64-bit]; Path: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\tbmapi64.dll (valid) MAPI #5: [Windows Mail]; Path: (not valid) Default Profile: Address: 7FFCABDA0044 ClassName: EAccessViolation Message: Access violation at address 7FFCABDA0044. Read of address 7FFCABDE9318 IsOSException: 1 Modules: 7FFCABDA ? ? 0040 20170303195712 C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat64.exe Stack: 7FFCABDA0044 [7FFCABDA] 0052C460 [0040] 0052C460 [0040] 00410FEC [0040] 004126B8 [0040] 00410571 [0040] 007A9474 [0040] 00BE8B91 [0040] 00BE8C6E [0040] 0052C460 [0040] 004126B8 [0040] Well, I thought, I'd better to uninstall The Bat! completely, so ran the uninstall. Then looked for left files and deleted them. Also deleted the TBMail directory. Then I let CCleaner Pro clean up the registry. After a reboot I ran that .msi (see above) again. I was quite astonished as I saw that TB still had some configuration from the previous install. From where? Anyone who can give me a hint to solve this all? Regards, Gunivortus Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Fan clothing
Just saw this TB 'fan clothing' :-D https://www.amazon.de/dp/B0158MKFPO?tag=muha05-21=06347eda7c060a2d63418a11f4a311a9 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which one?
Whether or not a coincidence. :-) For those who can read German RitLabs published at their Facebook page information with a good (silent) step-by-step instruction video how to setup and use S/MIME the built-in encryption: https://www.facebook.com/ritlabs/posts/1887696304840160:0 I do not know if this is also available in English, neither do I have got permission to copy/paste that information into this mailing list. Perhaps RitLabs can say more about this. Regards, Gunivortus Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which one?
>> I think the main issue is that most people cannot be bothered to >> encrypt or digitally sign their email, irrespective of ease or >> difficulty. Being unable to get friends or family members to do so is >> almost the default. The main issue for me is, that it is not understandable how it works, what exactly to do to get it working, and that it does not work intuitive or even already is implemented in The Bat. You've really to dive in it. > As long as everybody tells you that to encrypt mails (with GnuPG or > other tools) is so complicated nothing will change - you are right. > But with gpg4win it is now quite simple to enable clients (TheBat, > Thunderbird, ClawsMail and more) to use GnuPG. For YOU it may be simple, for ME it is complicated. OK, installing is easy, but the next steps aren't. Why I need a public and a private key, and how to configure things in The Bat to get it all working at writng and receiving encrypted mails. As I in my previous mails wrote about making two different templates, you wrote: In the editor window when you edit your message you can push the button if you want to sign or / and encrypt the message. THE button? It did not help me. Which button, where to find? You also wrote: send to the keyserver or your mail partners. Again: Keyserver? Which keyserver? Where? What does it cost? OK, I was not motivated anymore to put those questions. No need anymore to answer them. After I also had made some remarks in Facebook, I've got last evening a test mail from a guy which included a PGP key. So I reinstalled temporarily GnuPG but that did not make the mail more readable. I did not know what to do with that mail first and neither had the stimulus to find it out. As I wrote before. IF a real step-by step instruction from installing onto having sent and received enxrypted mail, I may have succeeded. For example, starting with: STEP 1: Open your browser and copy/paste this link in it to call this site: https://gpg4win.org/download.html STEP 2: Goto the map on your computer where that file is saved and click on it to install the program: STEP 3: While installing your are prompted for . etc. etc. going on to send an encrypted mail to someone and receiving one where all works. On the other hand, the often made remark RTFM is the right way for me to drop it. > But it is true, prejudices are hard do brake. That is a thought-terminating cliché, not worth discussing it. Yet, it is al relative... For me, working with Adobe Indesign has become easy and understandable. But in the beginning there was such a step-by-step instruction to get that program working and an excellent community where I could ask my 'dummy' beginner questions which were all the time friendly and easy and instructive answered. That motivated to go on. OK, further discussion is pointless for me, as I removed all GnuPG stuff now and am satisfied with VPN. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Gunivortus Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which one?
> Why? On Windows you install gpg4win and probably you have already > installed an email client which supports GnuPG. So you generate your > key and you are done. > What can be complicated with this? This will be a little longer At first the GnuPG program did not install correctly, due to my protection tools. I had to delete it and clean the registry and then, after a reboot, a new install succeeded because I then was prepared to make whitelist entries in those tools. Then keys had to be created. I did not understand why two of them, which costed time to read a manual - it is not really intuitive. Then The Bat had to be changed - I had to make templates for all my accounts; each time a template which did use the encryption and one who didn't. That failed. Before I did not work with templates at all, just took TB as it was installed. Only years ago I added a macro that someone posted here and wrote where exactly to put it. Think, it was MAU. But further, I am not experienced at all with those functions of TB not interested in it. Then I tried similar at another email program with another emailaddress to have at least some keys to exchange. I did not know how to implement them - had to search again where and how to handle that - meanwhile I was already completely demotivated by that all. I also failed to make there templates. Because I did not find a simple step-by-step instruction what where and when to do - I did not get such a help here - I asked for it in a social medium. Someone there offered my a free Skype course in PGP (not how to handle it in The Bat), but advised me to let it and to get VPN. I still do not really understand the function of those encryption programs, but simply followed Max' suggestion to install GnuPG as I asked which PGP tool I should install best. I even had to ask here whether gpg4win was the tool Max meant. Then, no one of the people who I asked it for, was willing to use GnuPG or some other PGP tool - they also had negative experiences - too much time, too much to read and understand. I followed that VPN advise, accepted the offer from NordVPN and, with a little direct help from them (via a live chat on their site) the whole thing was done and running within ten minutes, while that GnuPG was not working in TB for days. That's it. Implementing PGP in The Bat and getting it all working is complicated for someone who just wants his email more protected, but who is not really interested in lots of installing, configuring, reading docs and manuals and trying out such technical things. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Gunivortus mailto:g...@boudicca.de Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which one?
>> My conclusion: PGP is (still) something for interested freaks. > This is now quite old prejudice. > Email clients TheBat, Thunderbird or ClawsMail on Windows (also with > gpg4win installed) are very simple to use. On Linux it is simple as > well. From my own experience and of two friends with whom I tried together to get it running, I completely disagree. It is NOT simple, it is complicated and has already cost me too much time. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Gunivortus Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which one?
> I have GnuPG installed Well, I had. What a rigmarole! Getting GnuPG working is laborious and quite time-consuming and because I could not find a good beginners help, I gave up and deleted the program. My conclusion: PGP is (still) something for interested freaks. Instead, I am using (paid) VPN now and hope all my internet activities, including the mail transport is protected. Thanks to those who reacted for thinking aong with me. Regards, Gunivortus Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which one?
> If you already have GnuPG (or PGP) installed, I have GnuPG installed but failed to make a The Bat new mail template ... despite the help site. Moreover, I do not know how to organize it automated in TB to use GnuPG with contacts who also use it and not to use it with those who don't. Neither do I know if it also works when people use another PGP program. Anyway, I wrote simple mails to some people proposing to use mail encryption, but they all considered it too much work (it indeed would include to dive into the matter ... docs, manuals to understand it and to implement it). Instead, two of them counter-proposed to use VPN. Resuming, I have to admit, that encrypting mail is still a complicated issue for someone who does not know the subject matter - IMO that hasn't become much easier since I in vain tried it some 5 years ago. Well, at least, secure sending and recieving does work. Rather disappointed, Gunivortus Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to?
Hi Maggie Meister, > :-) Yes, it is a lot of space. > Thank you for bringing this question to the group. I have been > following this thread avidly since I have never understood the > PGP and related encryption methods and I have some questions and > an observation. I am sorry, but I cannot answer most of your questions, as I am myself struggling through these things. That message with the PGP keyblock even wasn't correct; the signature macro should not be visible. In fact, I don't know really how to create a predefined template for new messages with macros in it and I neither do know how really to call the footer file with the text and keyblock. It was in the message by unexpected luck, but I did not know how I did it. > 1. I largely use text and not html to communicate. Using GnuPG > seems to take up lots of space. Do I remember correctly that > proper email etiquette advocated no more than 6 lines in a sig, > or, is that just a piece of the past that just stuck in my > memory? That etiquette seems to have been 'disappeared'; at least, many messages I get, both private and commercial have big footers of different kind. Some with lots of text, others with pictures. > 2. How will correspondents using smart phones manage this > considering the screen size? Dunno. > 3. For correspondents who don't use a dedicated email program > such as TheBat! handle this if they are using web mail? Dunno. > 4. When replying without trimming in an email thread, this could > potentially take to not only scroll through, but to even find the > actual email amidst all the other security characters? May be possible, but not a problem I met yet. > 5. Are these questions also relevant to PGP or only GnuPG? Dunno. I simply choose GnuPG because of Maxim's advise... even without asking why he advised that one. :-) > Isn't choosing VPN more effective w/o having to use the keys and > the added issue of having to convince other people to adopt this > system in order to communicate with me? These are the ones who > say, why should I do this, I've got nothing to hide? For the VPN possibility I got offered, a registration at some webpage for it is necesary and I do not want that. Don't know if it is possible without a third party. Sorry, I'm not a big help. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Gunivortus Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to?
Ah... Now it is there! :-) >>> You can sign your message with your signature - and this will contain >>> your public key and the other side can import this. > So I created for this account a quick template and placed the info below in > it. > But in the test mails I had sent to myself, it is not in the message footer. > The field for 'New message' is checked in the Quick template. > What do I have to do more? > Regards, > Gunivortus > --- > %ISSIGNATURE > Today email traffic seem to be increasingly controlled by 'Secret > Services' of various kind. If you prefer to get our correspondency > encrypted, please install the GNU Privacy Guard. The version for > Windows is available at: https://gpg4win.org/download.html Then just > implement it in your email client and we can exchange our Public Key > blocks to decrypt messages after recieving. Mine follows: >-BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- > Version: GnuPG v2 > mQENBFjnPHYBCADFQpQzgFFIJOzonufr9afxlb+2v0JnIqcVb2TF7vgIaunJO8Xu > bGYyUpeh2NQq5Bs0Y23U0P4T/pUC8/ccOCKz+1b/JEmz203MGcsv0uzmqJIKgHGy > OQWbjWJ1/bif3bcByPLCvEJIZldL32l/KLHGWbw+gHUqStOrWsAMmhC3B/+PI2Hr > GW3coJe6Ly/I7ErNsK9hqE8MOgUvadz5MhrdnI6/OFC63F5IYXDQdIu0/JPqKJaV > Dznu4D8/K7P4uh5pXJbjJV4uwWSQYoSCaS/EGDW3BPo2RNGmgPmelztP5iPMo1QE > q4rCerQQvUpxbEB+bbGqAe6XypWtAc1w7CiHABEBAAG0GWpiZ2dvb3MgPGpiZ0Bi > b3VkaWNjYS5kZT6JATkEEwEIACMFAljnPHYCGwMHCwkIBwMCAQYVCAIJCgsEFgID > AQIeAQIXgAAKCRBus0L8QzSFPXPQCACMcgt8xbE7ufsd5YpY+yidslVyWjaQyjJl > XnJZdwpVpjp35Gat81vadaq6OFi/4CewqHdkRkU07oW+8bYZRcJ941jg2dzBDHD1 > 0Rk1sPQpyNTNtYCvNA3nqN+vET5TsM41cA6jA44ZI/tX4gaommhhgBho9Qqc4d20 > WO5tlJI2PblY3vjlx1C33bnGfB7NxcdwSyDET9HgDC99YX/wFGDWosT19aIrtD6b > CU2p8J9jW7Jr6w62OQotv5QvKjZtv0thb88RngaKPyt+Syronp0zn5QuAiiZDLFa > jOXAK9znYsh61oXI6Tzy0Uix3hF9ti7whGpvngcHU+/zFgTfNYhluQENBFjnPHYB > CAC9HdSAjT17Ogv3rAnzxAMBiYvGwPpGQmgYWMM4gCbfXs+oVJHHBDW1nhgd+enE > xmxZgOgeF1V97FF0EoWYItdvvEVv8lSX29k/NkXhviUtO9NXETcQ4UsNoGDWqDlw > CzhmgOjfEfJb8P9tWu9XJeVZ+sAY1ON/nmGymDO5dESsSX2uG+rX58kKCrAZ1eL8 > /diGyFwSLRZkakVw2Nw7IX/66i5QGx6WTKzQJuzmfINeE+s6gaFQLkidEPHRw7K+ > Vd3J5C1XcuaV0ys39myq+22RIX1nDNt0ueAgyp7kHr0GzjpgWG6Nt6P9UK270Gd3 > COkNcMU9Y2jaIg0MpkIzVTqHABEBAAGJAR8EGAEIAAkFAljnPHYCGwwACgkQbrNC > /EM0hT32wwgAr4r896mBEwEEWvMH+rH+Xuumsk3eM9NkTLm2Lov3Mt6LVaxLGkHH > R4a9j9mGdNqnvxM/386TQkWwY6vbpYBkYyLmpPXoE4kiacCJ9+TSXod9AaH5lf0/ > nyjd5lC3gI5pL48b4z/D5L7r6LOidvi9+wjUGMyEhLH8TWanh/EJTtj0MZ/bEeEP > 226990svCQWIgK0hKZdq8oAsncbhuOqNL5f8O2w99zo+PS4krW75B3fvtIoPiavK > ROsazqTv2Y+qteCsu7gOMo6iVdTY6UiE9CxTB6e0jk66imHP8w/XV/ijecwvy3LJ > 79MByEgRpdhQLnvJMnNQ+WRkmAAihaCJLA== > =2qGu > -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- > ____ > Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: > http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Goos mailto:g...@boudicca.de Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to?
>> You can sign your message with your signature - and this will contain >> your public key and the other side can import this. So I created for this account a quick template and placed the info below in it. But in the test mails I had sent to myself, it is not in the message footer. The field for 'New message' is checked in the Quick template. What do I have to do more? Regards, Gunivortus --- %ISSIGNATURE Today email traffic seem to be increasingly controlled by 'Secret Services' of various kind. If you prefer to get our correspondency encrypted, please install the GNU Privacy Guard. The version for Windows is available at: https://gpg4win.org/download.html Then just implement it in your email client and we can exchange our Public Key blocks to decrypt messages after recieving. Mine follows: -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: GnuPG v2 mQENBFjnPHYBCADFQpQzgFFIJOzonufr9afxlb+2v0JnIqcVb2TF7vgIaunJO8Xu bGYyUpeh2NQq5Bs0Y23U0P4T/pUC8/ccOCKz+1b/JEmz203MGcsv0uzmqJIKgHGy OQWbjWJ1/bif3bcByPLCvEJIZldL32l/KLHGWbw+gHUqStOrWsAMmhC3B/+PI2Hr GW3coJe6Ly/I7ErNsK9hqE8MOgUvadz5MhrdnI6/OFC63F5IYXDQdIu0/JPqKJaV Dznu4D8/K7P4uh5pXJbjJV4uwWSQYoSCaS/EGDW3BPo2RNGmgPmelztP5iPMo1QE q4rCerQQvUpxbEB+bbGqAe6XypWtAc1w7CiHABEBAAG0GWpiZ2dvb3MgPGpiZ0Bi b3VkaWNjYS5kZT6JATkEEwEIACMFAljnPHYCGwMHCwkIBwMCAQYVCAIJCgsEFgID AQIeAQIXgAAKCRBus0L8QzSFPXPQCACMcgt8xbE7ufsd5YpY+yidslVyWjaQyjJl XnJZdwpVpjp35Gat81vadaq6OFi/4CewqHdkRkU07oW+8bYZRcJ941jg2dzBDHD1 0Rk1sPQpyNTNtYCvNA3nqN+vET5TsM41cA6jA44ZI/tX4gaommhhgBho9Qqc4d20 WO5tlJI2PblY3vjlx1C33bnGfB7NxcdwSyDET9HgDC99YX/wFGDWosT19aIrtD6b CU2p8J9jW7Jr6w62OQotv5QvKjZtv0thb88RngaKPyt+Syronp0zn5QuAiiZDLFa jOXAK9znYsh61oXI6Tzy0Uix3hF9ti7whGpvngcHU+/zFgTfNYhluQENBFjnPHYB CAC9HdSAjT17Ogv3rAnzxAMBiYvGwPpGQmgYWMM4gCbfXs+oVJHHBDW1nhgd+enE xmxZgOgeF1V97FF0EoWYItdvvEVv8lSX29k/NkXhviUtO9NXETcQ4UsNoGDWqDlw CzhmgOjfEfJb8P9tWu9XJeVZ+sAY1ON/nmGymDO5dESsSX2uG+rX58kKCrAZ1eL8 /diGyFwSLRZkakVw2Nw7IX/66i5QGx6WTKzQJuzmfINeE+s6gaFQLkidEPHRw7K+ Vd3J5C1XcuaV0ys39myq+22RIX1nDNt0ueAgyp7kHr0GzjpgWG6Nt6P9UK270Gd3 COkNcMU9Y2jaIg0MpkIzVTqHABEBAAGJAR8EGAEIAAkFAljnPHYCGwwACgkQbrNC /EM0hT32wwgAr4r896mBEwEEWvMH+rH+Xuumsk3eM9NkTLm2Lov3Mt6LVaxLGkHH R4a9j9mGdNqnvxM/386TQkWwY6vbpYBkYyLmpPXoE4kiacCJ9+TSXod9AaH5lf0/ nyjd5lC3gI5pL48b4z/D5L7r6LOidvi9+wjUGMyEhLH8TWanh/EJTtj0MZ/bEeEP 226990svCQWIgK0hKZdq8oAsncbhuOqNL5f8O2w99zo+PS4krW75B3fvtIoPiavK ROsazqTv2Y+qteCsu7gOMo6iVdTY6UiE9CxTB6e0jk66imHP8w/XV/ijecwvy3LJ 79MByEgRpdhQLnvJMnNQ+WRkmAAihaCJLA== =2qGu -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to?
> You can sign your message with your signature - and this will contain > your public key and the other side can import this. Thanks, will try that. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Gunivortus Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How to?
Trying to create a footer in which recievers of my mail are invited to use Gnu PG encryption and my public key has to be added. Is there an easy way to automate that, or do I have to add manually a TXT file with that info? (Perhaps it may be done with some macro, but it is over ten years since I used a macro). -- Regards, Gunivortus Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which one?
G>> Do I have to contact them all first to ask that? > Yes, unless there is another way to obtain their public keys. You'll > encrypt with their public keys, and then they can decrypt with their > private keys. And their encryption tool also has to be Gnu PG? Or doesn't it matter which one they use? -- Regards, Gunivortus Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which one?
> First: PGP is not GnuPG. It seems that you installed now GnuPG Yes, so, they are different encryption tools. Thanks for telling me that. I thought the basis was all the same, just different companies who made tools around the same encryption method. > Second: You can encrypt mail to people where you have their public key > in your public key ring. So you have to contact them to get the public > key or you download it from a keyserver - if it is stored there. Understood. Then, I have to convince first some to also install GnuPG in their mailclient - if they are using webmail, thea, in turn, have to ask that to their admins? Regards, Gunivortus Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which one?
> You can start Kleopatra as standalone program which was installed by > gpg4win. Does this work? So there you can create your key. Kleopatra does not start at all at any of my Windows 10 computers, neither called from inside The Bat, not standalone from the desktop. But the alternative, GPA does work. GPA was called from inside TB and the two key files were created. Kind regards, Gunivortus Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which one?
Guten Tag, Goos, > So I downloaded and installed GPG4Win 2.3.3. > Under Preferences I added as the GnuPG External Key Manager the file > kleopatra.exe > which seems to be the managing GUI. > But that file does not start Already for many years I failed to implement PGP in my email correspondence. However, I am a step further now, but still things are not ready yet. First, the GNU-PG manager needed to be added to the 'allowed' programs' in the security programs one uses. Except for the AVG-Suite I have the three tools from WinPatrol. After the PGP-manager was whitelisted in those tools, it started and I could create my PGP keys. Second, with the help of the https://www.ritlabs.com/en/support/help/75/#6660 site, I could export the Public Key to a file. Third In TB, under Account - Properties - Options I checked the options Sign when completed Enable OpenPGP I hope, the Public key will be added now as a footer to any message in this account. But fourth.. I do not understand this really. Can I now encrypt any message or only those to people who also use PGP? Do I have to contact them all first to ask that? Hoping to get a helpful answer, regards, Gunivortus Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which one?
So I downloaded and installed GPG4Win 2.3.3. After a reboot, I could choose in The Bat under Options - OpenPGP - Choose OpenPGP the version the GNU Privacy Guard... well, actually, TB already had chosen that. :-) Under Preferences I added as the GnuPG External Key Manager the file kleopatra.exe which seems to be the managing GUI. But that file does not start after calling the OpenPGP Manager in The Bat to create the keys. So, I do not know how to go on now. Did not find a beginner step-by-step guide for this. -- Regards, Gunivortus Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Which one?
Hi, Looking which OpenPGP Implementation to choose, I'm confused. The Bat offers Internal (RFC.1991 PGP command line (2.6.3, 6.0x+) PGP 5.5x plug-in PGP 6.0x / 6.5x plug in GNU Privacy guard (GPG) PGP 5,6,7,8,9,10 (built-in support) But which one should I take? AFAIK, none of my frineds, relatives, etc. uses any of them. I need the one I can also propose to them being the easiest one to use for mail in their webmail activities and several mailclients. -- Regards, Gunivortus Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mailbase
Before I probably make a mess of it.. So I created at my new PC the same accounts in TB as at my old PC but not as POP3 but as IMAP. Question: Can I simply copy the message base files from my old PC to the configured local location of the new setup to see all saved mail there? Regards, Gunivortus Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Passwords
Hi! Is there a possibility to retrieve the passwords of my various accounts I creatred in the Bat!? I'm transferring TB to a new PC and can't find the list with my account logins information. Simply transferring the TB settings of the old PC is not really an option, because I want, instead of POP3 used on the old PC now create them in IMAP. Regards, Gunivortus Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Transfer TB
>>>> regedit /e c:\test\test.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT > That is the ideal way if the TBK file doesn't go corrupt which I > have had happen several times. I personally don't trust it but you > are correct - that is the best way to do it Because I've more programs installed of which the data are at other partitions, I did have made C, D, E and F partitions as I have at my old computer well the sizes differ. :-) So, Rick's solution worked fine. But I've still to transfer many settings of other programs sigh. Regards, Guus -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Goos mailto:g...@boudicca.de Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Transfer TB
Hi Rick, > Copy your mail directory to somewhere where you can restore from. > Run this and change the path to where you want it to go and rename > it to something that makes sense for you as this example would put > "test.reg" in the "C:\test". i put mine in the mail directory > regedit /e c:\test\test.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT Thank you! Regards, Guus -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Goos mailto:g...@boudicca.de Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Transfer TB
Hi! It is too many years ago I transferred The Bat from an old to a new PC, so that I forgot how to do that. Now it is time again to such a transfer ... my old PC will be replaced by a new one. So How do I completely The Bat with all its settings, the way, that everything will be the same as it is at my old PC? I tried the 'Backup' option, but I did not get it all back that way. Regards, Gunivortus Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Antispamsniper
> As far as AntiSpamSniper making decisions before emails even leave the server > suggests you have the "Pro" version which advertises that procedure as a > *plus* > to AntiSpamSniper. However, I think that feature can either be adjusted or > eliminated entirely but keep in mind that I'm new to AntiSpamSniper and really > don't know what I'm talking about. Yes, indeed, I have the Pro version. But because I did not find an option to disable leaving mails at the server, I (temporary?) removed the Antispamsniper plugin. @all... Does anyone know if possible where to disable in antispamsniper the 'leave mail at the server' option? Regards, Gunivortus Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Antispamsniper
> Although I am new to A-SS, for me it automatically moves messages it thinks > are > spam to my JUNK folder. I then go into the JUNK folder and manually mark good > messages as NOT JUNK and move them to where they're supposed to be. From then > on > A-SS shouldn't ever mark those as junk again (I think). If that would the only problem, but many messages aren't even downloaded from the mailserver, they stay there because ASS sees them as Spam. I just removed ASS from my TB and then I got all the mail waiting at the server - among them was even your answer here to me! This is something I really don't want that ASS doesn't download new Mail because its classifies it as Spam. Regards, Gunivortus Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Antispamsniper
Hi, Antispamsniper obviously marks many mails as spam which I did not mark myself so. Among them are even mails for which I was waiting, like order confirmations by Amazon. My TB has separate folders for Amazon, Ebay, Facebook, etc. When I got mails there I delete them after reading. When I've done that for awhile, Antispamsniper marks those mails as spam according to its logfile. This is really problematic.I do not have time to check each day that logfile and undelete mails. So, I could use some advise how to solve this problem. Kind regards, Guus Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Antispamsniper
Question: I want to update my Antispamsniper for the Bat. At the website of the program there's a free version and a pro version. The problem is, I don't know (anymore) which of the two versions I have. In ma program, under 'About' it states that the program is registered on my name, on the other hand, I do not see the term 'Pro' for the commercial version. Any tips? Regards, Gunivortus Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Passwords
On the road I want to read/write mail through webmail using my tablet or smartphone. Thus I need the login information to the mailserver. I can't find the yellow notes with the passwords. Is there a way to retrieve them from my TB? Regards, Guus Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Which setting?
Installed the latest Beta (7.0.2.1) and some settings are gone again. Clicking on a message in the message list, that message should be opened. Instead, the same windows is opened again. See: http://www.chaosowl.net/tb1.jpg Which setting do I have to change to get the message window again? Regards, Gunivortus Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which setting?
>> Instead, the same windows is opened again. >> See: http://www.chaosowl.net/tb1.jpg >> Which setting do I have to change to get the message window again? > When the message window is opened, on the top menu select View/Show > message list/Hide. Thank you Miguel! -- Kind regards, Gunivortus Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Encryption
Hi MFPA, thanks for the info. As an alternative to OpenPGP, another email encryption method The Bat! can handle is called S/MIME. S/MIME I've found the Comodo site to get a free s/mime certificate. But I don't understand configuring it in TB in the S/Mime TLS preferences window. In the address book I can at each user import a certificate, but which one? The public one I get from them or my private one? Sigh... in short.. I simply don't understand this and the Help info from TB looks to me cryptic too. Isn't there a kind of helping wizard, telling me step by step what to do without the need of understanding what I did? :-) Kind regards, Guus -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 5.4.8 under Windows 7 64 bit POP3 only. Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Encryption
Hi Paul, thanks for the reply. (Forget about GnuGPG) I didn't find out how to get GNP-pgp work in The Bat. TB does see the program, but not a Key Manager and I wasn't able to create keys. It seems the typical Linux handling I've experienced also with other programs... too much related knowledge is preconditioned. -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 5.4 under Windows 8 64 bit POP3 only. Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Encryption
Hi, is there a kind of encryption which don't need at first reading a long documentation? I've installed GNU-pgp but simply don't know how to go further. I've skimmed the documentation, but didn't get a clue. Isn't there a software which automatically encrypts mails and the reciever can read it with a password I give him or her. Similar to what's possible with PDF docvuments. -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 5.4 under Windows 8 64 bit POP3 only. Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Log Files
Hi Mark, I find all of this rather confusing: This is what is in the configuration: Create an update to an existing archive H:\TB-BU\TBBU.tbk The BU ran today but stopped saying it couldn't find I:\TB-BU\TBBU.tbk H is an external USB drive. I does not exist ( Sounds familiar. TB sometimes sees my external USB flash-drive, sometimes it says that it can't find it. No matter if I use USB 2.0 or 3.0 and using a direct connection or through my USB-hub. I've experienced too similar problems when using my NAS over LAN for this. Strange enough.. doing manually a BU it works all the time. :-) -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 5.3.8.4 (BETA) under Windows 8 Pro 64 bit POP3 only. Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Hello, not very often but too much, TB doesn't get all waiting mails on the mailserver. Mails from different senders, sometimes in html, sometimes in text-only. After a few really important mails didn't arrive and one sender called me by phone asking why I didn't answer, I logged on directly at the mailserver with a browser and indeed, there were mails waiting, not even seen by TB's mail dispatcher. First I asked the server admin, he checked and didn't find a problem so he advised me to install for testing purposes another mailclient. I installed Sylpheed 3.3, configured the mail account and the waiting mails on the server which TB 'ignored(?), arrived at my computer. What could cause this in TB? I really don't know where to start searching the problem. Using The Bat 5.3.6.0 -- Regards, Gunivortus Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail
Hi Roelof, GG What could cause this in TB? GG I really don't know where to start searching the problem. POP3 or IMAP? POP3 nver used IMAP. If POP3: Do you store the mail on the server for some time or do you delete them at once? That is always configured to delete at once after downloading. Those few mails however stay in the inbound at the server until the test-client (Sylpheed) downloads them. They're not spam by spamassassin, my address is correct, I don't see anything strange in the kludges so I don't have a clue what causes the problem. -- Regards, Gunivortus Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Crash
where in the The Bat settings can I find my registration key? Problem solved. My wife told me, I'd printed the mail with the key. So I searched my desperately chaotic desk room and indeed found the paper. :-) Kind regards, Gunivortus Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Crash
Hi, writng this from the computer of my wife where in the The Bat settings can I find my registration key? Reason: after my computer ran in terrible hardware problems, it went back to the shop and they tested it and replaced several hardware parts. Unfortunately they also destroyed the operating system (Windows 8 Pro)at my system disk and erased my second disk with all my data to install Linux for those tests. Acronis was unable to restore a backup from an external harddisk. The excuse from the company doesn't really help. Through a repair disk I at least have access to the application and user files and I already could find some reg keys, but not the one from The Bat. Once I've found all keys from my software, I can setup the PC from scratch Kind regards, Gunivortus -- Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Crash
Hi David, where in the The Bat settings can I find my registration key? It is in the registry. Thought so... but where? I have just had to a crash repair, and did the following Install TB! Restore from a backup Install key from mail. As I wrote, Acronis can't access the image from an external harddisk. And the whole mailbase was involved - the repair company simply formatted the second drive to install Linux there. So my only chance is to restore the key from the registry if I knew where to find it. -- Regards, Gunivortus Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Strange
Hi, since three days TB has changed its behaviour here spontaneously. Clicking on some folder a small popup windows appears, telling me that folder was compacted. See: http://www.boudicca.de/tb-1.jpg And clicking on another folder, there it's also tried, but there werte obviously no mails to delete, 'cause now another popup appears, telling me there are no messages to delete and nothing to compact. See: http://www.boudicca.de/tb-2.jpg However, I wasn't even in the settings, so didn't change anything. My accounts settings are set to empty trash on exit and to compact folders on exit. Not all folders are involved. Because it is really annoying behaviour, I like to know how this can get deactivated. -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.2.40 under Windows 7 64 bit POP3 only. Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: invalid security
Hi Jernej, maybe the provider's using a certificate that TB doesn't know (in this case it might be enough to switch S/MIME and TLS in Options to MS CryptoAPI, assuming the certificate is installed in Windows' certificate store). Thank you, that worked. -- Regards, Gunivortus Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
invalid security
Hi y'all, a friend from Brazil downloaded and installed The Bat for the first time. He is using a secure connection (TLS) to the mailserver of his provider using ports in the 900 region. The provider is one of Brazils biggest provider, with several millions of customers. With every connection to that server TB shows a window, telling him, the security certificate of that server is invalid and he is asked if he wants to go on. After a Yes, that happens, but it makes automatic maildownloading (pop3) impossible. Is it possible to deactivate that message to make the automatic periodical mailcheck possible? -- Regards, Gunivortus Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
colors
Hi Tbudl, as you can see on the picture here, http://www.gunivortus.net/colors.jpg I've tried to give my TB a 'blue' outfit. However, the folder tree on the left is white, and so is a background part outside the list of messages. How / where can I change there the background too to blue? -- Regards, Guus Using The Bat Vs. 4.2.36.4 under Windows 7 64 bit Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cache
GG got from The Bat a cache directory which contains meanwhile about 40 GB! GG Can I delete all those files? ( If TB is not running). Gunivortus, what was the name of that file and where did you find it? It wasn't one file, it were over fifty-thousand files. The path to my mail directory is F:\TB and there's a subdirectory called 'cache'. There were all those files, meanwhile deleted. -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.2.36.4 under Windows 7 64 bit Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cache
Hi Mark, Yes, but first take your stop watch and look how long it takes before TB! starts up, then delete the cache and, once more, see how long it takes before TB! starts up and let us know if you see any difference! ;-) Don't own a stopwatch. :-) -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.2.36.4 under windows 7 64 bit Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cache
Hi MFPA, It wasn't one file, it were over fifty-thousand files. Wow. Mine had just one file of less than a kilobyte. Maybe you view messages in HTML and allow the images etc to be downloaded? Several dayly e-newspapers, newsletters from my favourite online stores - they're allowed to show me the pictures and graphics they have. I buy a lot at amazon and Ebay and all the contacts are in HTML. -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.2.36.4 under Windows 7 64 bit Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Cache
Hi, got from The Bat a cache directory which contains meanwhile about 40 GB! Can I delete all those files? ( If TB is not running). -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.2.33.1 Beta under Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Clamwin
Hi Roelof, ...about the TBClamwin.bav antivirus plugin for The Bat. GG The plugin was made by Marco Pontello and dates from 2007. In that case I suggest that you contact Marco wether he intends to update the plug-in: http://mark0.net/contacts.html Got an answer form Marco He wrote me, updating the plugin isn't one of his priorities. It means, I've to leave Clamwin as antivirus software and install another product. Any of you who can recommendate such a program, that works fine together with The Bat? It would be a nice detail, if it has the option to personalize the text under a message in which is told that the message was scanned with ... -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.2.33.1 Beta under Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Clamwin
Any of you who can recommendate such a program, that works fine together with The Bat? I never heard of an antivirus that did not work with TB!. The open source Clamwin doesn't anymore. The main program itself can't handle the TB database files well, it's focused on the kind of database, where not all mails are stored within one file. The 3rd party plugin for TB was a good solution, but stopped working last week as the core program got a major update. And the author, who updated the plugin in 2007 for the last time wrote me: I have to admit that TBClamWin isn't a priority for me at the moment. I will be more than happy to update it in the future, and make sure it's working fine, but I cannot make any promise about dates time frames. From the suggestions I've got here, I choose the free AVG 9, which has a TB plugin. I choose mainly the free one, because now I can quietly wait for a Clamwin plugin update. If that comes, I'll go back to Clamwin. @all: Thanks a lot for your recommendations! -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.2.33.1 Beta under Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Clamwin
Hi, my antivirus program is the open source ClamWin and for The Bat I used the TBClamwin.bav. However, since the major engine update of Clamwin last week, the plugin doesn't work anymore. It says, it can't read the clamwin.conf. Don't know how to solve this. does anyone has some solution? -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.2.33.1 Beta under Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Clamwin
Hi Roelof, GG my antivirus program is the open source ClamWin and for The Bat I used GG the TBClamwin.bav. GG However, since the major engine update of Clamwin last week, the plugin GG doesn't work anymore. It says, it can't read the clamwin.conf. AFAIK The plug-in is developed by ClamWin, so they should update it. Unfortunately not. The plugin was made by Marco Pontello and dates from 2007. -- Regards, Gunivortus Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Antivirus
Hil, The antispamsniper workst pretty well together with The Bat. It has even HAM and SPAM buttons. Is there something similar for antivirus? F.i. a specific plugin for The Bat? -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.2.33.1 Beta under Windows 7, 32 bit E-mail message checked by Internet Security (7.0.0.508) Database version: 6.15280 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Antivirus
Hi Paul, GG The antispamsniper workst pretty well together with The Bat. It has even HAM and GG SPAM buttons. GG Is there something similar for antivirus? F.i. a specific plugin for The Bat? You may find that your antivirus protects you even if it is not specifically linked to the Bat. I use Avast and it seems to give protection for email. If you don't want a separate antivirus, Comodo has a full security suite including antivirus etc. Yes I know, I've used both some stand-alone antivirus tools and complete security suites. The last one was the PCTools Internet security. When they detect a virus, it's often moved to some quarantaine directory. If I wants to know more, I've to minimize TB, open the antivirus software and search for the quarantaine items. With a TB-plugin, it can all kept inside TB, f.i. forwarded to 'self', etc. Then I can check much easier and faster who and what. An hour ago I started testing the (free) Open Source Clamwin antivirus program and the TBClamWin plugin. -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.2.33.1 Beta under Windows 7, 32 bit Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spam
Just curious but how do you all deal with Spam? Do you have a favorite spam filter that you use with TB. I haven't been able to find anything that has worked that well with TB to control Spam. Thanks in advance for your input!!! SpamAssassin does the job on my server. A while, the greylisting was active, which detected all spam, but also too many mails didn't came through who were 'good' for me. It costs me too much time to add each of them to the whitelist there, so I deactivated the greylisting and the SPAM which is not detected by SpamAssassin is processed locally.. Many years I used for that the very good antispamsniper for The Bat! (registered), but since I installed the New PCTools Internet security, I use that also as spamprocessor, because it conflicted with Antispamsniper. Regards, Gunivortus E-mail message checked by Internet Security (7.0.0.508) Database version: 6.15050 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Key
Hi, my wife her computer stopped very suddenly working and was unrevivable. She has a new PC now and wants again install her The Bat! Pro, but can't find the paper on which her registration info was printed. However, I can open the old image from her system partition. The question is: Where can I find the registration information there? -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.2.33.1 Beta under Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit E-mail message checked by Internet Security (7.0.0.508) Database version: 6.15000 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Unsubscribed
Saw just in my spamfolder the message below un which I was unsubbed from the ritlabs-news-de mailinglist. However, I didn't unsub myself. Anyone here knows if it is a fake? Regards, Gunivortus Return-Path: ritlabs-news-de-boun...@maillist.ritlabs.com X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7-deb3 (2006-10-05) on wmsrv01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=3.1.7-deb3 X-Original-To: g...@boudicca.de Delivered-To: web3p8-boudicca...@goosconnect.nl X-Greylist: delayed 3194 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at 78.46.35.73; Thu, 24 Dec 2009 07:09:31 CET Received: from web.ritlabs.com (www.ritlabs.com [198.63.208.135]) by wmsrv01.goosconnect.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 481D42CCC281 for g...@boudicca.de; Thu, 24 Dec 2009 07:09:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from web.ritlabs.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by web.ritlabs.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBO69TXM004972 for g...@boudicca.de; Thu, 24 Dec 2009 08:09:29 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ritlabs-news-de-boun...@maillist.ritlabs.com) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: You have been unsubscribed from the Ritlabs-news-de mailing list From: ritlabs-news-de-boun...@maillist.ritlabs.com To: g...@boudicca.de Message-ID: mailman.324.1261632448.58921.ritlabs-news...@maillist.ritlabs.com Received: for web...@boudicca.de Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 07:27:28 +0200 Precedence: bulk X-BeenThere: ritlabs-news...@maillist.ritlabs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 List-Id: ritlabs-news-de.maillist.ritlabs.com X-List-Administrivia: yes Sender: ritlabs-news-de-boun...@maillist.ritlabs.com Errors-To: ritlabs-news-de-boun...@maillist.ritlabs.com X-AntiVirus: checked (incoming) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 9.0.1.9; AVE: 8.2.1.122; VDF: 7.10.2.57) Unsubscribe ritlabs-news Ok -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.2.13.7 ALPHA under Vista Ultimate 32 bit Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Ads
Hi, is there an option to get yahoogroups listmail without the ads? -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.2.13.3 ALPHA under Vista Ultimate 32 bit Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
One TB, two mailbases?
Hi, My wife and I have each our own TB, each on our own computer. Now we're preparing for the holliday travel and we take my notebook with us. My TB will be tranferred for that time to the notebook, including my mailbase, D:\myTBase. If I transfer also the mailbase of my wife (D:\herTBase), is there a possibility, that TB reads both databases? -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.2.6 under Vista Ultimate 32 bit Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: signatures in top-posted replies
Hi Marck, As it happens, it does affect the actual. The so-called Signature delimiter is really called a Cut Mark. It is the point at which signatures are cut off for an orderly reply. This is remembering me for a question I already have a long time. Is there any contra-sign, that recovers the situation from above the delimiter? I used to write f.i. a P.S. below my signature. (If above, it wouldn't be really a P.S.). -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.1.11.6 under Vista Ultimate 32 bit P.S. It would be nice if this sentece would be shown in normal mode. Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?
PDF manual for TB: http://www.thebat.hu/Download/The_batv4018MANUAL.pdf For the record: the above document is NOT english... Of course it isn't, every child could have seen it's hunglish. :-) -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.0.39.30 (ALPHA) under Vista Ultimate 32 bit Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: One time encryption
Hi Jernej Simončič, Note that listening in on phone conversations (and fax communications) is much easier than intercepting even unencrypted communication over the internet. Except for Skype's IP-phonecalls, I experienced, they're obviously encrypted. And in a strange turn of events, the cat was electrocuted. -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.0.34.4 under Vista Ultimate 32 bit Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Speaking of signatures
Hi Gary Lucas, There's a handy program for generating random cookies. It's called cookie jar and it's free. http://sourceforge.net/projects/kookiejar/ But in TB you don't need that, TB has a built-in option for cookies. Just gather your favourite cookies in a plain ASCII file (a .txt file, f.i. made with notepad) and save that somewhere, f.i. in your The Bat directory. Then rightclick the mouse on a folder in the folder tree. Choose 'Properties', then under Template 'New message'. Put the cursor in the right window near above your sig delimiter, where you want to appear the cookie, Then rightclick again and choose: 'Cookie from a file' Then led the upcoming window to your cookies file. Done. Do the same with Reply under Template. -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.0.28.4 under Vista Ultimate 32 bit Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Speaking of signatures
Hi Gary, Yes, but Kookiejar manages the cookies and selects them randomly. I have Kookiejar put a random cookie in cookie.txt every 5 min. TBs macro grabs for every message randomly another cookie from the list. If you want to pick them manually you can, but I have over 700 to pick from now, I'm lazy, no right click is needed, and the randomness is actually fun. ..grin... I think maybe have even more. ... Computers are unreliable, but humans brr... -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.0.28.4 under Vista Ultimate 32 bit Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Speaking of signatures
. cookies. Just curious... why are they called cookies nowadays? In the old days we spoke of taglines. My big file of those nice, bizar, wise, humorious, etc. sentences is still called tagfline.txt, I started with it as I still was in the pre-internet network FIDO. She is a tree of life to those who lay hold of her... Pr 3:18 -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.0.28.4 under Vista Ultimate 32 bit Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter
Hi, my emailaddress is massive used for spreading spam, I get every day lots of emails from for me unknown server, telling me some message I should have sent some someone there, can't be delivered. Now I want to make a filter for that. But I don't know how and what... The used emailaddres (mine) is correct. Often there's an unknowm name added, like: - From: hewett kalappa [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: brand hugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Amazing Watches [EMAIL PROTECTED] The 'recieved from' paths are of course wrong. Lots of different servers send me bouncing and similar mails for it. How could I filter them as spam, but 'good' returned mails exclude from it? -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.0.24 under Vista Ultimate 32 bit Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TheBat! Version 4
I gave both Barca and Pocomail a look today, did a quick look around for PGP implementation but could not find that. So I think I just wait for the Bat! 4.0 If you really, really need PGP Barca is not for you. For those of us who need a stable quality program with useable features Barca is a good option. Mmmm. Stability is a basic option every email program should have. :-) What I still didn't find is a program that shows my dayly e-newspaper, several e-zines, weekly newsletters from shops and more such things I'm subscribed to. They all use HTML and I don't like to start every time my browser to see it correct. -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 3.99.25 under Vista Bussiness 64 bit Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help with error
Firefox is the default browser on my system, and all other apps work just fine. Just the Bat has this error. If I set the default email to Microsoft Mail, itsends mailto links justfine. My default browser is IE (latest) and I've the same problem under Vista Bussiness 64 bit. TB is set as default email program. Every time I click on an email link on a webpage, I get the popup window with in the left upper corner The Bat!, telling me: Cannot open the mailto:And then the emailaddress -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 3.99.7 under Vista Bussiness 64 bit Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AGAVA AntispamServant
Hi Code 2, I saw some 2005 postings in the archives regarding the AGAVA AntispamServant spam filter and they were generally favourable. Does anyone have more recent experience with it? Till two weeks ago I used it for quite awhile. It worked well, however, some comfortable options are missing. I left AGAVA, because my support requests weren't even answered and so were questions for updates. So I stepped over to antispamSniper, http://antispamsniper.com/thebat_plugin.html which provides all I want at the moment for such a spamfilter. Within two weeks, it comes near to 100 % of spamrecognition. -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 3.95.6 under XP Pro, SP2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB! still has negative image
Hi Roelof, Display as: Mailer RFC name:User-Agent Check: Allow to edit this field in the Message Editor Uncheck the other two options. GG I can't check the first two options. (They're lightgrey). GG what do I have to do to get be able to edit it? Odd. I didn't have to do anything special to be able to check those. When I create a new header the defaults are set to: address: no edit: yes scrollable part: yes Are they different for you? Yes. There's: Mailer X-Mailer NoNoNo First I wanted to change this, that wasn't possible. Then I wanted to delete it and make a new one with User-Agent in stead of X-Mailer, but deleting isn't possible either. The oddest thing I never created that Mailer - X-Mailer myself, it was obviously as default made at the installation of TB. -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 3.86.11 beta under XP Pro, SP2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB! still has negative image
Hi Roelof Otten, You've got to create a new header with the settings I described. You cannot delete the X-Mailer header, you were right in saying that TB installed that per default. So create a new header, let it display as Mailer, never mind that TB shows the X-Mailer as Mailer too, I've never seen a message with both X-Mailer and User-Agent in the headers, so it's not likely to confuse them. Brrr... now both are in the headers: X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.86.11 beta) Professional Reply-To: Gunivortus Goos [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Test Header User-Agent: Die Fledermaus! v3.86.11 beta In your mail there's no X-Mailer in the header. -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 3.86.11 beta under XP Pro, SP2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB! still has negative image
Hi Roelof, GG In your mail there's no X-Mailer in the header. Options - Preferences - General - Uncheck 'Use X-Mailer header' OK, that works now. Thanks. But why does TB use german text there in my header? Almoswt all my software, inclusive XP are in english. Where can I change that? -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 3.86.11 beta under XP Pro, SP2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: TB! still has negative image
Hi Roelof, But why does TB use german text there in my header? Please ignore that question, that's the synonyms file of course. -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 3.86.11 beta under XP Pro, SP2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! still has negative image
Hi Roelof, Display as: Mailer RFC name:User-Agent Check: Allow to edit this field in the Message Editor Uncheck the other two options. I can't check the first two options. (They're lightgrey). what do I have to do to get be able to edit it? -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 3.86.10 beta under XP Pro, SP2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
