Re: Reloading v6.0.12 msi

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Jernej,

On Friday, January 6, 2023 you wrote:

JS> On Friday, January 6, 2023, 17:15:24, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

>> Alas, no such file exists on either of our two computers. Any other ideas?

JS> Can you post a screenshot of the search bar? Also, can you try hiding it
JS> (right-click any toolbar [but not inside the textbox in search bar], and 
untick Quick Search)?

Please see attached screenshot (converted from .PNG to .JPG)

Ticking and/or un-ticking Quick Search and restarting TB! each time accomplishes
nothing. It remains as you see it. As mentioned in my original post, it cannot
be moved by clicking & dragging either. As an aside, it still functions as a
Quick Search.

Thanks for your help.

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Jack
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Re: Edit as new

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Adrian,

On Monday, January 30, 2023 you wrote:

AG> It's not right click on the message to do this. Select the message and then
AG> use "edit as new" from the very first menu on the left "Message"

Thanks for that Adrian, I never knew that. I always dragged the sent message
back to the outbox where I then could edit it by double-clicking on it.

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Re: Reloading v6.0.12 msi

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Jernej,

On Friday, January 6, 2023 you wrote:

JS> On Friday, January 6, 2023, 17:15:24, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

>> Alas, no such file exists on either of our two computers. Any other ideas?

JS> Can you post a screenshot of the search bar? Also, can you try hiding it
JS> (right-click any toolbar [but not inside the textbox in search bar], and 
untick Quick Search)?

Please see attached screenshot (converted from .PNG to .JPG)

Ticking and/or un-ticking Quick Search and restarting TB! each time accomplishes
nothing. It remains as you see it. As mentioned in my original post, it cannot
be moved by clicking & dragging either. As an aside, it still functions as a
Quick Search.

Thanks for your help.

-- 
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Jack
Central Alabama USA

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Re: Reloading v6.0.12 msi

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Jernej,

On Friday, January 6, 2023 you wrote:

JS> On Thursday, January 5, 2023, 23:43:32, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

>> My wife's search bar has migrated to obscuring part of the account tree. 
>> Nothing
>> I've tried will get it to move back to it's original location; not click & 
>> drag
>> nor selecting/de-selecting the search function in the header utilities. I 
>> still
>> have the 6.0.12 msi file in her downloads folder and wondered if I could just
>> re-run the msi file or will that change everything that has been set up for
>> years? I also still have the v5 keyblock which I think was used to unlock her
>> current TB! version.

JS> Re-running the MSI file is unlikely to change anything, since those
JS> settings are per-user, and installers don't touch user settings at all.

JS> Instead, check if you have userdef.xml file in the mail storage directory,
JS> and if you do, try renaming it – I think that file contains toolbar 
position settings.

Alas, no such file exists on either of our two computers. Any other ideas?

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Reloading v6.0.12 msi

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello TBUDL'ers,

My wife's search bar has migrated to obscuring part of the account tree. Nothing
I've tried will get it to move back to it's original location; not click & drag
nor selecting/de-selecting the search function in the header utilities. I still
have the 6.0.12 msi file in her downloads folder and wondered if I could just
re-run the msi file or will that change everything that has been set up for
years? I also still have the v5 keyblock which I think was used to unlock her
current TB! version.

I don't think it matters but she is running Win 11. The search bar moved long
after she started running Win 11.

Any help on this will be greatly appreciated.

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Orphaned Quick Search bar

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello TBUDL'ers,

Something happened to my wife's TB! (ver 6.0.12) and the Quick Search bar is now
where it's not supposed to be (see attached photo). Her computer is running Win
11 if that makes any difference. The Quick Search bar does still function. I've
tried everything I can think of to get it back up top with no success.

Anyone have any ideas?

-- 
TIA,
Jack LaRosa

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Re: Message filtering problem

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello MAU,

On Friday, August 12, 2022 you wrote:

M> Hello Jack,

>> Have you tried any other options besides "sender"?

M> You don't need to quote his whole message just to ask that, do you? 
M> ;-)

My sincerest apologies to the list. I know better and simply was not thinking
(again) when I replied.

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Re: Message filtering problem

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Chris,

On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 you wrote:

CW> 10 August 2022

CW> I am having filtering problems but do not understand why, as before
CW> upgrading to v10. I saw no issues. Here are the headers for a message that
CW> does not get filtered correctly, it is instead left placed in my new mail 
folder.

CW>

CW> Return-Path: 
CW> Delivered-To: ch...@chriswilson.tv
CW> Received: from shcp19.hosting.zen.net.uk
CW> by shcp19.hosting.zen.net.uk with LMTP
CW> id oCtmCmAB9GIyoBcAq/KeZA
CW> (envelope-from 
)
CW> for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 19:05:04 +
CW> Return-path: 
CW> Envelope-to: ch...@chriswilson.tv
CW> Delivery-date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 19:05:04 +
CW> Received: from mm2.emwd.com ([172.104.30.75]:38858)
CW> by shcp19.hosting.zen.net.uk with esmtps  (TLS1.2) tls 
TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
CW> (Exim 4.95)
CW> (envelope-from 
)
CW> id 1oLr0r-006WDm-Fy
CW> for ch...@chriswilson.tv;
CW> Wed, 10 Aug 2022 19:05:04 +
CW> Received: from mm2.emwd.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])
CW> by mm2.emwd.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBDF338105E
CW> for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 15:04:20 -0400 (EDT)
CW> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=emwd.com; s=harmony;
CW> t=1660158260; bh=rlM+N6OmEi+V8ajTnZ+5o8Ps4IRzuQaJYXc0s/ZpJaA=;
CW> h=To:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Reply-To:Subject:List-Id:
CW>  List-Archive:List-Help:List-Owner:List-Post:List-Subscribe:
CW>  List-Unsubscribe:From:Cc:From;
CW> b=PxOf3o4fLdfYsL07MliOfUtoCv/+kdGaN8G7QC41fzXbZ77to1hqfDYrva6kmjjJW
CW>  Uc54X2ZpUwejk/DY5g5s7BAyqwclNIebCfMLHFhZlcQZ5PDdrWIXpJz0y4ATrn3qX+
CW>  rIX0whPE1GvIU3rhb3ojUQHh6yzKS4QtO1X2VBipf8Aaptic1Uf/UJgMqWizQzBVRW
CW>  qphHJa7Ucj3GXb6DdQrCnnqtUGbJBRlzvpoKxW2uMIBcHIaK2ksZZVWbszai1Mipls
CW>  JaN1y7DXDV712jf5CWSQiscehh39hvjTIwMFEv1btb4zE9XfC2wmKbXFALOI2esY7G
CW>  sh284EgJdvotA==
CW> Received: from mail.dfm.dk (mail.dfm.dk [87.116.22.157])
CW> by mm2.emwd.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 50191383C92
CW> for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 09:06:04 -0400 
(EDT)
CW> Received: from DELPHI.dfmdom.local (172.16.10.35) by DELPHI.dfmdom.local
CW>  (172.16.10.35) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2,
CW>  cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.2.986.26; Wed, 10 Aug
CW>  2022 15:06:02 +0200
CW> Received: from DELPHI.dfmdom.local ([fe80::54bd:62df:5089:b62d]) by
CW>  DELPHI.dfmdom.local ([fe80::54bd:62df:5089:b62d%3]) with mapi id
CW>  15.02.0986.026; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 15:06:02 +0200
CW> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
CW> 
CW> Thread-Topic: [time-nuts] dial-up time source for NTP
CW> Thread-Index: AQHYrFPkZbUzZdYmC0ymMN5KmwhDSa2n+Z0A
CW> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 13:06:02 +
CW> Message-ID: <2566071.k3LOHGUjKi@dfm--jap>
CW> References: 

CW> In-Reply-To:
CW> 
CW> Accept-Language: en-US, da-DK
CW> Content-Language: en-US
CW> X-MS-Has-Attach: 
CW> X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: 
CW> x-originating-ip: [87.116.22.146]
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CW> Content-ID: <89f4daf707e83246b45d0b8376e8f...@dfm.dk>
CW> MIME-Version: 1.0
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"shcp19.hosting.zen.net.uk",
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CW>  message has been attached to this so you can view it or label
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CW>  Content preview:  Dear Discussion of precise time and frequency 
measurement,
CW> On Tuesday, 9 August 2022 21:52:45 CEST Avro125 via time-nuts wrote: > 
I’m
CW> wondering if someone would be willing to 

Re: Gmail

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello MAU,

On Thursday, June 23, 2022 you wrote:

M> Hello Jack,

>> Where does one get OAUTH? Is it part of TB!?
M> Account/Properties/Transport/Receive mail/Authentication/OAUTH

Thanks for trying but as you can see in my reply to Jernej, it was not meant t o
be.

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Re: Gmail

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Jernej,

On Thursday, June 23, 2022 you wrote:

JS> On Thursday, June 23, 2022, 17:53:36, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

>> Where does one get OAUTH? Is it part of TB!?

JS> It is, but only since version 7 or 8.

Thanks Jernej. It seems you are correct. In my version 6 the path described by
Miguel does not yield OAUTH. Fortunately I had/have little use for Gmail so it's
not a great loss.

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Re: Gmail

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello MAU,

On Thursday, June 9, 2022 you wrote:

M> Hello Adrian,

>> Gmail needs OAUTH. This is supported in Version 10 of The Bat.

M> I have not upgraded to v10 and I use OAUTH with no problem.

Where does one get OAUTH? Is it part of TB!?

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Re: Delete 'older than'

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Gunivortus,

On Tuesday, June 21, 2022 you wrote:

GG> Hello,

GG>  

GG> is there an option to delete messages that are older than a certain date?

GG>  

GG> I've over 7000 messages in my inbound, down to 2014. I'd like to delete

GG> all from before 2019.


Right-click the folder and select PROPERTIES. Then select ADDITIONAL from the
tree (second option down). At least that's the way it's done in my version.

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Gmail

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello TBUDL'ers,

I've had Gmail controlled by TB! for years but something happened and now TB!
can't get to it anymore. I fear the *CONNECTION* and *PORT* parameters have been
altered and are no longer valid. I can't remember how I got those parameters
years ago and so now have no idea how to get that information to confirm or
replace.

Can anybody help?

-- 
TIA,
Jack LaRosa

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Re: Photos no longer appearing

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Stefan,

On Friday, May 20, 2022 you wrote:

STvT> Hello Jack,

STvT> Friday, May 20, 2022, 2:30:14 AM, you wrote:

>> If you could scroll down past the big blue bar you used to
>> see pictures of today's mail. It no longer displays the pictures 

STvT> From what I see, the problem could be because the image file names do not
STvT> contain extensions or because they use in some non-standard image format.

STvT> If the message doesn't contain any sensitive data, please forward the
STvT> message to me directly, so we can see what's wrong with it.

I sent a separate "redirect" to you so that you could see exactly what I see.
You'll notice that the image filenames tabs do have .jpg extensions. The
previous attachment was a screenshot (of a different email) of what I saw and
you were correct, the first two image filenames did not have extensions yet all
three of the images would appear in a redirect.

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Re: Forward with attachment(s)

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Miguel,

On Friday, May 20, 2022 you wrote:

M> Hello Jack,

>> Then I went into account properties and looked at the forward
>> template. I noticed the "Forward messages as attachments (MIME
>> Standard)" was ticked.

M> That was certainly your original problem for not seeing pictures as 
M> attachments when forwarding. The forwarded message is attached as a 
M> .eml, and no more attachments, but also the text in the editor window 
M> id displayed as per your forward template. This is what I think led 
M> you to think pictures were not being attached.

As you can see, Stefan was kind enough to reply to my query as well. I am going
to redirect one of these emails to him because that's the only way he can see
what I see.

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Photos no longer appearing

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello TBUDL'ers,

We subscribe to the post office's "USPS Informed Delivery" and every day that
the post office delivers mail we get an email from them. It used to show
pictures of mail we could expect to see in our mailbox on that day. See
attachment please. If you could scroll down past the big blue bar you used to
see pictures of today's mail. It no longer displays the pictures and I haven't
changed anything that I'm aware of. If you look at the very bottom of the
attachment you'll see tabs which in this case are marked "HTML", "Text",
"Part.txt" and three tabs which when clicked on will display a piece of mail in
that space. It defaults to HTML.

This screen has always looked this way and the pieces of mail would appear below
the big blue bar when you scrolled down. They don't anymore.

Anyone have any ideas as to why this should be happening?

-- 
TIA,
Jack LaRosa

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Re: Forward with attachment(s)

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello MAU,

On Monday, May 16, 2022 you wrote:

M> Hello Jack,

>> Well, that makes sense. I can easily see what you're talking about. But it 
>> still
>> doesn't answer the question of why attachments aren't forwarded with the 
>> email.

M> I have no idea why your attachments aren't forwarded. All I can do is
M> volunteer to investigate. When you run into that problem again with a
M> new email, if you don't mind, please forward it to me by PM, as a MIME
M> attachment (remember the option in the FWD template), so it will
M> include everything, and I will take a look to see if I find anything
M> "special" in the message that may be the cause.

Maybe I'm just too old to be using a client as powerful as TB!

Rather than wait for something to come in so I could forward it to you, I took
an image from my phone and sent it to myself. Then I looked at both forwarding
and redirecting to see which would include the picture. Only redirecting would
include the picture. Then I went into account properties and looked at the
forward template. I noticed the "Forward messages as attachments (MIME
Standard)" was ticked. I un-ticked it and tried to forward the message again.
This time the picture was included in the forward.

I AM too old to be using a client as powerful as TB!

But not too old to thank you once again for helping.

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Jack
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Re: Forward with attachment(s)

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Miguel,

On Sunday, May 15, 2022 you wrote:

M> Hello Jack,

>> I'm going to try it with that box ticked as soon as I find a good
>> specimen to forward.

M> That is not your problem. If you tick that box what will happen is 
M> that any message that you want to forward will be included as an .eml 
M> MIME attachment, and the text of the message (the one you are creating, 
M> will depend on your Forward template for the account or folder you are 
M> selecting. If you untick that box, there will be no .eml attachment, 
M> just the text created by your template.

M> Now, in your first message you were asking about the difference 
M> between Forward and Redirect, right?

M> - Forward opens an Editor window with contents that depends on your 
M> Forward template; and you can add, delete or correct/change any text 
M> before sending.

M> - Redirect opens a kind of Editor window with exactly the message you
M> are redirecting, there is no template option for Redirect, and you
M> cannot delete or edit or add any part of the message, just include the new 
To 
M> address where you want to redirect the message.

M> More or less ;-)

Well, that makes sense. I can easily see what you're talking about. But it still
doesn't answer the question of why attachments aren't forwarded with the email.
If the screenshot comes through, you can see how my FORWARD template is set up
(never having been modified since TB! was installed). I don't see anything that
would affect attachments.

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Re: Forward with attachment(s)

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Thomas,

On Saturday, May 14, 2022 you wrote:

TFM> Hello Jack,

TFM> On Sat, 14 May 2022 10:27:36 -0500 GMT (14/05/2022, 22:27 +0700 GMT),
TFM> Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

>> If I *forward* a message which contains pictures as attachments, the pictures
>> don't get forwarded. If on the other hand I *redirect* that same message, the
>> pictures are redirected along with the message.

>> Is there an option somewhere or am I just not understanding the difference
>> between the two methods?

TFM> How exactly do you forward? Over here, pictures and other attachments are 
forwarded.

TFM> My settings:

TFM> Account / Properties / Templates / Forward: [ ] Forward as MIME is *not* 
ticked.

TFM> I use the arrow button to forward rather than the menu item.

My settings appear to be the same as yours. The only difference appears to be
how that last is worded. Mine says "Forward messages as attachments (MIME
standard)" and it was NOT ticked.

I use the "Forward" icon nestled between the "Reply" and "Redirect" icons at the
top of my screen to initiate a "Forward". I'm going to try it with that box
ticked as soon as I find a good specimen to forward.

BTW, your cut mark is missing a space at the end.

Thanks Thomas.

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Jack
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Forward with attachment(s)

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello TBUDL'ers,

If I *forward* a message which contains pictures as attachments, the pictures
don't get forwarded. If on the other hand I *redirect* that same message, the
pictures are redirected along with the message.

Is there an option somewhere or am I just not understanding the difference
between the two methods?

-- 
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Jack LaRosa

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Re: Filter for mutiple SENDERs

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello MAU,

On Sunday, April 24, 2022 you wrote:

M> Hello Jack,

M> Sorry for my late reply, I was away all week and can't use my phone to 
M> send to the list.

>> I owe you an apology Miguel.

M> Heck no! You owe me a beer ;-)

I would be delighted to provide a beer or two, or seven, should we ever meet.

You will be amused to learn that your method of accomplishing what I was after
has now been incorporated into yet another group.

Again, my sincerest appreciation for your help.

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Jack
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Re: Filter for mutiple SENDERs

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello MAU,

On Monday, April 18, 2022 you wrote:

M> Hello Jack,

>>  I  need  to  trap  a  bunch  of  ever  changing  merchandise and/or
>>  political ads. Each one is different.

M> Even if it is an ever changing list of ads (senders), I still think the 
M> AB Groups is a much easier and cleaner way than the endless ORs or 
M> BLOCKS that you were trying. If you get a mew add (sender) all you 
M> have to do is add it to your AB and ABGroup and the filter will still 
M> work as desired. No need to fiddle with the filter.

M> But then, you do know better than me what you really want to do. 

I owe you an apology Miguel. After using your method of trapping a multiple list
of senders I find that it is much more "elegant" than I originally thought. It
turns out that your method is much easier to use than the "block" method I was
attempting to make work. I see that it also finds variations of the address I
was adding to the group which would have been missed had I gotten the "block"
method to work.

So, in sum, a great implementation of one of TB!'s more arcane features.

Thanks again.

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Re: Filter for mutiple SENDERs

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello MAU,

On Monday, April 18, 2022 you wrote:

M> Hello Jack,

>> Once again I am in need of a way to filter (trap) multiple senders. So far 
>> the
>> only thing that has worked is OR>SENDER>CONTAINS>text for each sender. 
>> Needless to
>> say, this leads to a very large filter.

M> Do you have all the senders in your Address Book? If yes, I would 
M> create an AB Group and add all those senders to the AB Group . Then
M> filter with condition:

M> Address groups - "AB Group" - contains - sender

M> I use this for family and some groups of friends.

Thank you Miguel, that seems to work, if a little Rube Goldbergish. Being able
to use the "block" function as part of a condition seems to me to be a little
more elegant but since I can't get it to work the way I think it should work,
I'll continue to use your method since your method DOES work.

Once again, I appreciate your expertise in matters batty.

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Re: Filter for mutiple SENDERs

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello MAU,

On Monday, April 18, 2022 you wrote:

M> Hello Jack,

>> Once again I am in need of a way to filter (trap) multiple senders. So far 
>> the
>> only thing that has worked is OR>SENDER>CONTAINS>text for each sender. 
>> Needless to
>> say, this leads to a very large filter.

M> Do you have all the senders in your Address Book? If yes, I would 
M> create an AB Group and add all those senders to the AB Group . Then
M> filter with condition:

M> Address groups - "AB Group" - contains - sender

M> I use this for family and some groups of friends.

Thank you for the suggestion Miguel but alas, no. I need to trap a bunch of ever
changing merchandise and/or political ads. Each one is different. I plan to
unsubscribe from them all but until I have the time to do I thought I'd just
have the filter mark them as READ and move them to the trash folder. I've set
the trash folder to limit quantity to 500 and to delete old ones when closing
TB!.

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Filter for mutiple SENDERs

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello TBUDL'ers,

Once again I am in need of a way to filter (trap) multiple senders. So far the
only thing that has worked is OR>SENDER>CONTAINS>text for each sender. Needless 
to
say, this leads to a very large filter.

I've tried stacking each sender (separated by CRLFs) which didn't work and using
the BLOCK text holder where apparently (or not) multiple senders can be loaded
in a BLOCK. That doesn't work either. So, either I'm not understanding how the
BLOCK function is supposed to be used (probable) or it just doesn't work
(un-likely).

Needless to say, any help will be greatly appreciated.

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Re: mark as read

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Gunivortus,

On Thursday, March 24, 2022 you wrote:

GG> Hello,

GG> How can I get it that all mails in the Junk folder are by default

GG> marked as read?

Are you familiar with "Sorting Office/Filters"? You can create a filter for the
Junk folder so that every incoming Junk message is marked as "read" as they come
in.

I'm sorry I don't have more time right now to explain how to do that but I'm
sure another Battie will jump in and do it for me.


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Re: generic icon appears in place of The Bat icon in task bar

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Avram,

On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 you wrote:

>>> On Tue, 8 Mar 2022 14:59:16 -0600 GMT (09/03/2022, 03:59 +0700 GMT),
>>> Achdut18 wrote:
>>>   
>>> I just updated to ver.5.1.1.  After updating the The Bat image icon
>>> disappeared from the task bar. ...  Any ideas as to how I can fix this?

AS> Thomas replied:


>>>  The only idea I have is to find the Bat! exe file, right click it and
>>> choose the option "Pin to Taskbar", if you have that option.

AS> And then, Jack suggested:

>> If I assume you're running Windows 10 then thebat.exe can be found here:
>> C:\Program Files (x86)\The Bat!\TheBat.exe.

>> Once you've found it, right-click on it to select it then left-click on it to
>> bring up the context menu where you'll find the create shortcut option.

AS> I solved this problem myself:  I right-clicked on the existing task bar
AS> icon to delete it.   After deleting it, the correct The Bat icon popped up 
in its place!!   Magic!

AS> I can't explain why what happened, happened.  But, it now works.  

AS> Thank to all with their suggestions. 

Congratulations Avram, I'm glad you solved it so easily. It's just as well as I
just noticed that I mixed up right-click and left-click in my instructions. I'm
sure you would have realized it but I hate making stupid mistakes.

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Re: generic icon appears in place of The Bat icon in task bar

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Lore,

On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 you wrote:

LG> Hello Thomas,
LG>  





LG>  




LG> Tuesday, March 8, 2022, 4:14:18 PM, you wrote:
LG>  







LG> Hi Thomas,




LG> Tuesday, March 8, 2022, 5:43:21 PM, you wrote:




LG> On Tue, 8 Mar 2022 14:59:16 -0600 GMT (09/03/2022, 03:59 +0700 GMT),
LG> Achdut18 wrote:
LG>   
LG> I just updated to ver.5.1.1.  After updating the The Bat image icon
LG> disappeared from the task bar. ...  Any ideas as to how I can fix this?



LG> Do you have a shortcut on your Desktop? If so, delete the shortcut on the
LG> taskbar and just drag the shortcut from the Desktop top the taskar.


LG> That would be too easy.  I don't have a shortcut on my desktop.
LG>  


LG> -- 
LG> Avi


LG> Avram Sacks, using The Bat! Pro ver. 9.5.1 on Win 7 Pro 
LG>  The only idea I have is to find the Bat! exe file, right click it and
LG> choose the option "Pin to Taskbar", if you have that option.

If I assume you're running Windows 10 then thebat.exe can be found here:
C:\Program Files (x86)\The Bat!\TheBat.exe.

Once you've found it, right-click on it to select it then left-click on it to
bring up the context menu where you'll find the create shortcut option.

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Re: Internet Reconnect

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Adrian,

On Sunday, March 6, 2022 you wrote:

AG> Just activate Options, Periodical checking for the e-mail accounts, but
AG> probably not a good idea more often than every 30 minutes.

AG> Adrian

Please pardon me for butting in but may I ask why you shouldn't do a fetch more
frequently than every 30 minutes? I had to set my TB to do a fetch every 5
minutes because at the time, I needed to know as soon as a particular email came
in. That was over a year ago and I never changed it back to manual fetch. So far
no problems.

TIA

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Re: RFC-Headers

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Thomas,

On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 you wrote:

TM> Hello Jack,

TM> Wednesday, February 2, 2022, 11:36:51 AM, you wrote:

TM>>> I often look at the headers, either to see whether I am in CC or in BCC, 
or
TM>>> to look at the list of recipients (I am weired and find that easier).

TM>>> I use F9 for that. However, on my new Asus laptop, F9 seems to be a system
TM>>> shortcut putting the laptop into sleep (for which I usually use Win+L).

TM>>> I could not find another way to show the headers in TB!. Any hints?

>> Right-click a blank area in the header banner? Then select?

TM> This is not what I mean. There I can choose which header are always shown
TM> in the panel. I already now all CC and BCC headers.

TM> In the headers in the raw email (source) I personally find it easier to
TM> see. Plus, with the F9 keyboard shortcust I can view other headers which I
TM> don't want to see for every message, often starting with "X-", or I can see 
the message body to extract an URL.

TM> --
TM> Cheers,
TM> Thomas.

TM> Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.5.1 (64-bit)
TM> under Windows 10.0 Build 19043


TM> --
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TM> https://www.avast.com/antivirus


TM> 
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Ah, I see. Thanks Thomas for explaining that for us.

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Re: RFC-Headers

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Thomas,

On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 you wrote:

TM> Hello Tbudl,

TM> I often look at the headers, either to see whether I am in CC or in BCC, or
TM> to look at the list of recipients (I am weired and find that easier).

TM> I use F9 for that. However, on my new Asus laptop, F9 seems to be a system
TM> shortcut putting the laptop into sleep (for which I usually use Win+L).

TM> I could not find another way to show the headers in TB!. Any hints?

TM> Cheers,
TM> Thomas.

TM> Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.5.1 (64-bit)
TM> under Windows 10.0 Build 19043


TM> --
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TM> https://www.avast.com/antivirus


TM> 
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Right-click a blank area in the header banner? Then select?

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Re: Access password

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello MAU,

On Saturday, January 8, 2022 you wrote:

M> Hello Jack,

M> The password in question is the one sent to me each month by RIT Labs. I'm
M>  assuming everyone who uses TB! gets these same emails from RIT Labs monthly.

M> As Adrian says in his reply to you, I also get a monthly "memberships
M> reminder", in my case with passwords for this list and also TBBeta. But these
M> passwords are not to be used for any TB account, unless you do want to
M> protect the account for unauthorised use.

M>  Now when I start TB! it opens with my account tree collapsed (it never used
M> to do that). When I click on the PLUS sign to expand the account tree TB!
M> asks for the password. Entering the password will cause the collapsed account
M> tree to expand in all it's glory and everything is back to normal.

M> I always close TB! when I'm done and when I go to open TB! again, it opens
M> with the account tree collapsed even though I closed TB! with the account 
tree expanded as I always do.

M> That is normal behaviour for any password protected account.  Go ahead and 
remove the password.

Well Miguel, removing the password worked. TB! now opens as it had for all 
these years without having to enter that password. I don't understand why 
changing the password and then changing it back to what it was originally 
caused such behavior but here we are.

My sincere thanks to you and Adrian both for helping me.

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Re: Access password

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Adrian,

On Saturday, January 8, 2022 you wrote:

AG> Hello Jack,

AG> I get a "memberships reminder" every month that has passwords from
AG> mailman-ow...@thebat.dutaint.com, but that is not Rit Labs. Those passwords
AG> are for if you ever use a web browser to access this tbudl mailing list.


Ah! Thank you Adrian. I did not have a recent mailing to see who the actual
sender was. Now that you mention it I'm sure you're correct, it does not come
from RIT Labs. My apologies to the list.

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Re: Access password

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello MAU,

On Saturday, January 8, 2022 you wrote:

M> Hello Jack,

>> Now every time I try to look at my mail, TB insists that I enter my
>> account password, after which, everything is displayed normally.

M> Excuse me Jack, I may be getting old (I certainly am), but what is the
M> purpose  of having an account password if you don't want TB to ask for
M> it when you want to access it?.

>> Anyone have any idea how I can get TB! to stop asking for my
>> password every time?

M> Why don't you simply delete/remove the password?

The password in question is the one sent to me each month by RIT Labs. I'm
assuming everyone who uses TB! gets these same emails from RIT Labs monthly.
CTRL F12 will bring up the account password.

Now when I start TB! it opens with my account tree collapsed (it never used to 
do that). When I click on the PLUS sign to expand the account tree TB! asks for 
the password. Entering the password will cause the collapsed account tree to 
expand in all it's glory and everything is back to normal.

I always close TB! when I'm done and when I go to open TB! again, it opens with 
the account tree collapsed even though I closed TB! with the account tree 
expanded as I always do.

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Access password

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello TBUDL'ers,

A few days ago I received an email from a very dear friend requesting an urgent
favor. She was in need of five gift cards ASAP and couldn't get them herself as
she was suffering from a sinus infection. She is the type of person who would
put herself in the position of needing presents for friends post haste. Her
request was not out of the ordinary. I immediately went to my local CVS pharmacy
and bought five Apple gift cards. Never having done this before I had no idea
how to get them to her. However, her instructions were to photograph the cards
and send her the photographs. Not a problem. I photographed each card separately
and emailed the photos to her by replying to her original request. A grievous
mistake as you'll see.

After a few hours I decided to call her to see if she had received the photos.
As soon as she realized what I had done, she freaked out and said she had been
hacked. Sure enough, when I looked at the sender's email address originally
requesting the cards, it wasn't hers. I had fallen for a spoof email and sent
negotiable photos worth $500 to bad actors.

I immediately called Apple and the agent checked and saw that the cards had not
been used yet so he was able to void all 5 cards. So the cards are no longer
good and cannot be used. Hooray for my side! But I was out $500 and further
checking with CVS Pharmacy and the credit card company (Visa) proved fruitless.
The money was gone and could not be reimbursed. I made a stupid mistake and it
cost me.

Because of this I decided to change the "access password" on my TB! account, not
necessarily out of fear that I might be in danger of hacking as well but more
because I hadn't changed that password in years. After changing the password I
realized I should have changed my email password instead of my TB! account
password. So I put my account password back to what it was originally and
changed my email password. Now every time I try to look at my mail, TB insists
that I enter my account password, after which, everything is displayed normally.
Anyone have any idea how I can get TB! to stop asking for my password every
time?

I all the years I've used TB! this has never happened. Of course in all those
years I've never changed my account password either.

Sometime later still licking my wounds I wondered how idiots like me could be
automatically protected from this type of crime. It occurred to me that if TB!
were to compare all incoming email addresses to my address book, those for which
there wasn't a match could be displayed in red. Agreed, most of them wouldn't
match and would be flagged in red but I wouldn't recognize or care about the
sender anyway. Those would be discarded by me as they always are. But if I did
recognize the sender and their address was displayed in red, I would know
immediately something was amiss. Had this feature been implemented I would have
seen that my friend's address was flagged which would have caused me to check it
and I would have seen that it was not my friend's real address.

If anyone knows how to get TB! to stop requiring my password every time I try to
view my mail I'd sure appreciate knowing the fix. And I'd like to know what you
think about automatically flagging unknown addresses.

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Error message after every email deletion

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello TBUDL'ers,

TB! has recently started giving me these error messages as soon as I delete an
email. If I answer NO to the query, a second slightly different error message
pops up. If I once again answer no, that is the end of the error messages.
Anyone have and idea why this should be occurring?

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Re: Dictionary

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello MAU,

On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 you wrote:

M> Hello Jack,

>> What  I  found  was  that the dictionary controls are available only
>> when composing a message, as far as I can tell.

M> That is not something new, it has always been that way.

>> Also,  right-clicking  on  a  flagged  word brings up a context menu
>> which includes the option to add the word to the dictionary.

M> Again, that has always been that way.

I did not mean to imply that these features were new and unknown. On the
contrary, I wrote the original query to the list to find out what happened to
them for they no longer worked for me. Fortunately I managed to get them to work
again by performing the steps outlined in my previous email. How those features
got turned off however, is still a mystery.

Thank you MAU for your thoughtful response.

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Re: Dictionary

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Ian,

On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 you wrote:

IAW> G'day  Jack,

IAW> On Tuesday, September 7, 2021, at 9:27:14 AM, you (Jack S. LaRosa) wrote:

JSL>> Hello TBUDL'ers,

JSL>> I've recently noticed that TB! no longer catches mis-spellings as it once 
did.
JSL>> It dosn't seem to matter what editor I'm using. I can deliberately 
mis-spell
JSL>> something or even just type a string of random characters, TB! ignores
JSL>> everything. Could I have inadvertently disabled the dictionary somehow?

IAW> Same here.

IAW> It only checks a paragraph once you press the Enter key.

IAW> Not only that but this happens with a HTML message. A plain text message
IAW> does the check when you press the space bar.

IAW> Then with HTML, as soon as you pick back into the paragraph that flagged
IAW> errors, ALL the spelling marks lose their markers (the red squiggly
IAW> underline), and you have to press the enter again.

IAW> Also, there is no way of creating a personal dictionary as in the past. I
IAW> had a whole lot of engineering terms that I no longer get checked because I
IAW> can't add those words to a custom dictionary.

So, as a last resort, I had to actually search for the answer for myself. What I
found was that the dictionary controls are available only when composing a
message, as far as I can tell. Please see attached (I hope) screen grab. If you
are able to see the attached photo you'll see that SPELL CHECKER is in the top
menu bar. Clicking on that option yields the context menu you see. Although
AUTOMATIC CHECKING seems to be selected, I clicked on one of the other options
and then back to AUTOMATIC CHECKING. From that point on (as you can see) the
spell checker started working. Also, right-clicking on a flagged word brings up
a context menu which includes the option to add the word to the dictionary.
Given that you and I are using widely separated versions of TB!, YMMV.

I have no idea why it stopped working to begin with but at this point I'm taking
what I can get.

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Dictionary

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello TBUDL'ers,

I've recently noticed that TB! no longer catches mis-spellings as it once did.
It dosn't seem to matter what editor I'm using. I can deliberately mis-spell
something or even just type a string of random characters, TB! ignores
everything. Could I have inadvertently disabled the dictionary somehow?

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Re: Filter help

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Ian,

On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 you wrote:

IAW> G'day  Jack,


>> Anyone have any idea why the filter caught 39 of them and not any of the 
>> others?

IAW> I have a similar situation where I use the following common filter for 
incoming messages.

IAW> The "members" of the group are set as contacts in an addressbook group.
IAW>  
IAW> I then use \\\Inbox\%AbFromGroup as the destination
IAW> folder and where the members have just one e-mail address, there is
IAW> generally no issue. It is when they have multiple addresses each that there
IAW> appears to be an issue with how the addresses are entered and used.
IAW>  
IAW> I have had to enter a blank line between addresses and even going to the
IAW> start of each address and pressing enter. The extra blank lines get deleted
IAW> (which points to an addressbook issue) so that when you go into the entry
IAW> again the blank lines are no longer there.

IAW> Maybe your issue is similar.

Unfortunately I won't know if Stuart's suggestion bore fruit until I clean out
all the emails that got trapped by the filter because of an error on  my part.
However, if Stuart's suggestion did *not* work as hoped I'll be delighted to try
yours.

Thank you Ian.

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Re: Filter help

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Stuart,

On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 you wrote:

SC> Hello Jack,
SC>   A reminder of what Jack S. LaRosa typed on:
SC>   July 21, 2021 at 12:46:20 GMT -0500

JSL>> It seems so simple and as I mentioned, a "re-filter" action on the source 
folder
JSL>> did find 39 of the emails contained in the block of addresses. But only 
on the
JSL>> first re-filter. Subsequent re-filterings MOVED no more addresses. Even
JSL>> changing the condition ie: SENDER, TEXT, HEADER, MESSAGE SOURCE, or 
HEADER FIELD
JSL>> had no effect. It never did find any more of the multitude of addresses
JSL>> contained in the block.


SC> Did you try Sender "Contains any of" instead of just "Contains"

That MAY have worked Stuart. Un-fortunately, I had a couple of conditions set in
the actual filter from previous tests, and in my haste to try your suggestion I
overlooked them. This caused many emails to get moved to the destination folder
that shouldn't have. I'll have to weed out those inadvertant moves and compare
the final count of emails to the count before the re-filter to see if it has
gone up.

I'll let you know.

Many thanks Stuart.

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Re: Filter help

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello MAU,

On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 you wrote:

M> Hello Jack,

>> I have a folder which contains multiple unique emails from a particular 
>> group of
>> people. They were originally moved there manually. I wanted to create a 
>> filter
>> for the source folder to look for the characters in their email addresses 
>> which
>> appear before the @ sign, then move those emails to the aforementioned
>> destination folder. When I re-filtered the source folder, only about 39 of 
>> the
>> emails actually got moved. Many more which met the criteria specified in the
>> filter were never moved. I double and tripled checked for typing errors and
>> there were none.

M> It  would  be  much  better that instead of trying to explain what your
M> filter  does,  or  you  think it does, that you copied your filter and
M> pasted it here in the list so that we could really look at the filter,
M> and maybe even test it.

>> I used the block option in the creation of the filter because there were so 
>> many
>> (about 128) addresses I wanted caught.

M> I don't know how you used the block option unless I do see the filter.
M> Anyway,  if you are talking about 128 or so addresses, my own approach
M> would  be  to  put  all  those addresses in an Address Book Group, say
M> '128ers', and the in the filter condition use:

M> Address groups 128ers contains Sender

Thank you Miguel. I'm going to try your suggestion.

However, if this .png makes it through (it's only 4KB), it'll show how the
filter is built. Notice the up/down arrows to the right of the box displaying
"email address 5". clicking those arrows will move you up or down through all
the 127 *actual* addresses entered in the "block".

It seems so simple and as I mentioned, a "re-filter" action on the source folder
did find 39 of the emails contained in the block of addresses. But only on the
first re-filter. Subsequent re-filterings MOVED no more addresses. Even
changing the condition ie: SENDER, TEXT, HEADER, MESSAGE SOURCE, or HEADER FIELD
had no effect. It never did find any more of the multitude of addresses
contained in the block.

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Filter help

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello TBUDL'ers,

I have a folder which contains multiple unique emails from a particular group of
people. They were originally moved there manually. I wanted to create a filter
for the source folder to look for the characters in their email addresses which
appear before the @ sign, then move those emails to the aforementioned
destination folder. When I re-filtered the source folder, only about 39 of the
emails actually got moved. Many more which met the criteria specified in the
filter were never moved. I double and tripled checked for typing errors and
there were none.

I can't pinpoint the 39 that were moved because the destination folder had over
a hundred already-read emails and the emails that didn't get moved from the
source folder were also already-read.

I used the block option in the creation of the filter because there were so many
(about 128) addresses I wanted caught. In the re-filter options of the source
folder I chose incoming mail, read mail and replied messages all at once.

Anyone have any idea why the filter caught 39 of them and not any of the others?

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Re: Search function

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Stefan,

On Wednesday, June 2, 2021 you wrote:

STvT> Hello Jack,

>> I am completely flummoxed by the search function. It does not seem to make 
>> any
>> sense and although it seems to be intuitive, apparently it isn't.

STvT> I've just executed a search for your "lwv" string and found your message,
STvT> just as I expected. So, it could be something related to your setup.

I'd be interested in how you set up the parameters for that search.

I've never had any trouble with Windows search function (CTRL_F) but that hotkey
combination invokes TB!'s search function just as if you'd clicked on the 
search icon. 

STvT> Generally speaking, search function could be tricky especially when it
STvT> comes to its support on various IMAP servers, so YMMV.

This is a POP account if that makes any difference.

Anyway, thanks again for trying to help.

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Search function

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello TBUDL'ers,

I am completely flummoxed by the search function. It does not seem to make any
sense and although it seems to be intuitive, apparently it isn't.

Specifically, I was searching for a three letter string (lwv) and it returned
dozens and dozens of "hits", none of which appeared to contain that three letter
string. I used all the criteria available (text, header, any, etc.) and although
the results were different, none of the hits contained the string.

Does it actually work or am I just missing something?

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Re: Toolbar font

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Lore,

On Friday, May 14, 2021 you wrote:

LG> Hello Jack,


LG> Friday, May 14, 2021, 10:29:36 AM, you wrote:

>> Hello Lore,

>> On Friday, May 14, 2021 you wrote:

LG>>> Friday, May 14, 2021, 5:16:26 AM, you wrote:

 Hello TBUDL'ers,

 Suddenly the text & icons at the top of the page have shrunk to a barely
 readable size. Can someone tell me where I might find that setting?

LG>>> Hi Jack,

LG>>> Right click on an empty spot on the toolbar and select Customize for 
options.

>> Thanks Lore but that was the first thing I thought of. Unfortunately I never 
>> saw
>> where the font size could be changed. If it's buried somewhere even a second,
>> closer look failed to find it.

LG> Jack,

LG> Sorry I don't know where the specific options are for that.  There is such
LG> an abundance of options there, hopefully somebody who has done that 
recently will know.

Cancel red alert - It was something in windows. I re-booted the computer and 
everything is back to normal now.

Most of the time Windows behaves but you get so used to it behaving that when a 
problem crops up, Windows is not the first thing you think of.

Thanks for the help Lore.

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Re: Toolbar font

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Lore,

On Friday, May 14, 2021 you wrote:

LG> Friday, May 14, 2021, 5:16:26 AM, you wrote:

>> Hello TBUDL'ers,

>> Suddenly the text & icons at the top of the page have shrunk to a barely
>> readable size. Can someone tell me where I might find that setting?

LG> Hi Jack,

LG> Right click on an empty spot on the toolbar and select Customize for 
options.

Thanks Lore but that was the first thing I thought of. Unfortunately I never saw
where the font size could be changed. If it's buried somewhere even a second,
closer look failed to find it.

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Toolbar font

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello TBUDL'ers,

Suddenly the text & icons at the top of the page have shrunk to a barely
readable size. Can someone tell me where I might find that setting?

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Re: Sudden rearrangement of folders

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Thomas,

On Monday, February 15, 2021 you wrote:

TF> Hello Maggie,

TF> On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 19:47:34 -0500 GMT (16-Feb-21, 7:47 +0700 GMT),
TF> Maggie Meister wrote:

 all of a sudden the folders in my message list have arranged
 themselves into alphabetical order. <...> I have no idea how
 to undo it except to manually move the folders with
 ctrl+shift+arrow key back to where they 'belong'.

SC>>> I have noticed it happening for a while now. No idea how to stop it.

>> Thanks Stuart. Though I really hate unsolved mysteries, I
>> appreciate the answer!

TF> I believe you have clicked on the "Name" header on top of the folder list.
TF> I don't dare do it now to try, as I don't think there is an "undo" 
function...

TF> --


TF> Cheers,
TF> Thomas.

TF> Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.3.3 (64-bit)
TF> under Windows 10.0 Build 19041


TF> 
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Does CTRL-Z (undo) do anything?

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Re: sending e-mail to a group with only group name appearing in recipient's "to" field

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Achdut18,

On Sunday, February 14, 2021 you wrote:

A>  
 PM>> on  Fri, 12 Feb 2021 05:51:54 -0600GMT (12.02.2021, 12:51 +0100GMT here),
 PM>> Avram Sacks wrote:
A>  
 >>> [how to hide addresses of multiple recipients]
A>  
 PM>> solution that works with any client: put your own
 PM>> address in the TO: field and all other recipients into BCC.
A>  
A>  Thanks, Peter (and Stuart, who also responded), but I want to do this
A> elegantly. It is about having a "professional appearance."   I see the
A> BCC trick all the time.  I know it works, but I have also received group
A> e-mail where the address is to the group name and would like to know how to 
do that. Thanks.
A>  
A>  
A>  --
A>  Avi
A>  
A>  Avram Sacks, using The Bat! Pro ver. 9.1.18 on Win 7 Pro

I've found that if you start a new email and place your cursor in the TO field,
the little address book icon appears at the far right of the field. Clicking on
the icon will of course open your address book. Select a group (folder) and open
it. In the column of arrows the second one down is a double-right arrow. When
you click on that double-right arrow it will place the name of the group
(folder) in the box to the right. However, you'll see that if the group has two
names as in "The Group", it will reverse the names as "GroupThe". Take that into
consideration.

I tried it with a folder I have called MISC and it displayed it in the right box
as "Misc_handle " so you'll probably have to play around to get it to
display correctly.

Good luck.

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Re: Specific item display color

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Jernej,

On Saturday, February 13, 2021 you wrote:

JS> On Saturday, February 13, 2021, 22:49:24, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

>> Since moving to the new laptop I notice that the color of the last selected
>> email (using WORKPLACE > WINDOW SPLIT MODE > FULL WIDTH PREVIEW PANE) is so 
>> pale
>> gray that it's barely discernable from the alternately colored email lines. 
>> This is
>> most apparent when moving from one folder to another and back. Is there a 
>> way to
>> change or eliminate those alternately tinted lines?

JS> Preferences → Message list → Odd/Even row contrast

Thank you Jernej. That's exactly what I was looking for.

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Specific item display color

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello TBUDL'ers,

Since moving to the new laptop I notice that the color of the last selected
email (using WORKPLACE > WINDOW SPLIT MODE > FULL WIDTH PREVIEW PANE) is so pale
gray that it's barely discernable from the alternately colored email lines. 
This is
most apparent when moving from one folder to another and back. Is there a way to
change or eliminate those alternately tinted lines?

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Re: [OT] Info about TBOT needed

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Mica,

On Saturday, February 13, 2021 you wrote:

MM> Hello TBUDL,

MM> Could Anyone inform me (PM is acceptable too) where we could address
MM> related to off topic content now?

MM> Thanks much,

Does t...@yahoogroups.com not work anymore?

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Re: Edge browser

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Thomas,

On Thursday, February 11, 2021 you wrote:

TF> Hello Jack,

TF> On Thu, 11 Feb 2021 18:13:21 -0600 GMT (12-Feb-21, 7:13 +0700 GMT),
TF> Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

>> Since porting TB to the new laptop, any message which USED to provide a 
>> Chrome
>> icon at the far left now shows an Edge icon. Where would I find where that 
>> can
>> be changed back to Chrome?

TF> In Windows, make Chrome your default browser. TB! follows the Windows 
settings.

TF> --


TF> Cheers,
TF> Thomas.

TF> Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.3.3 (64-bit)
TF> under Windows 10.0 Build 19041


TF> 
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Thanks Thomas. That did it (after a restart of course).

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Edge browser

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello TBUDL'ers,

Since porting TB to the new laptop, any message which USED to provide a Chrome
icon at the far left now shows an Edge icon. Where would I find where that can
be changed back to Chrome?


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New computer

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello TBUDL'ers,

I went ahead and copied everything (I hope) related to TB from the old computer
and transferred all to the new laptop. Only two problems so far:

1: It's asking me to register my "evaluation copy" and it doesn't like the
keyblock I had recorded. So I've written an email to RIT Labs asking for help.
We'll see.

2: All my addresses in the address book are now showing in the PERSONAL ADDRESS
BOOK only. All the other folders show zero entries. Is there a way to get TB to
re-distribute them to their proper folders or do I have to manually
re-distribute them?

Much appreciation for any help.

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Port to new machine

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello TBUDL'ers,

I have just bought a new computer and need to transfer everything from my old
desktop to the new laptop. Carbonite is taking care of all the files but I'm
going to have to re-install TB on the new laptop. As you can see I'm running
v6.0.12 and have been for quite a while. I checked my records and see that I
have a product key for v5. IIRC that v5 product key worked when I downloaded and
installed v6. My question is what is the latest version I can download and
install and still use the v5 product key?

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Re: How to see the whole email on the screen

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Sam,

On Sunday, January 31, 2021 you wrote:

SB> Friday, January 29, 2021, 5:19:59 PM, Jack wrote:

JSL>> Hello Maggie,

JSL>> On Thursday, January 28, 2021 you wrote:

MM>>> Hi Jack,

MM>>> On Thursday, January 28, 2021 at 11:48:52 AM you wrote:

JSL I think I need someone to define the purpose of the cut mark because I 
thought
JSL it was to automatically eliminate everything below the cut mark 
(including the
JSL cut mark) when replying. 

MM>>> This was also my understanding. I wonder if the insertion of
MM>>> another cut mark by the particular virus checker after the sig
MM>>> prevents operation of the cut mark inserted by you in your
MM>>> template from working as designed?

JSL>> Thank you Maggie, I never even noticed that the antivirus was inserting 
it's own
JSL>> cut mark. Unfortunately, after spending a lot of time, but finally 
finding how to
JSL>> eliminate it, my cut mark still doesn't work. I've sent myself messages 
both
JSL>> from TB and from my Gmail account and each time when I reply to them the 
cut
JSL>> mark and anything below it remains in the reply. So I have to abandon the 
quest
JSL>> for a solution until well, I don't know when.

SB> If it helps any, when I reply to your email, the cut mark appears to work 
as expected.

It does help, Thanks. It seems I was confusing myself (easily done these days)
and didn't realize that the sig I was looking at in my previous reply to Maggie
was the sig which is in my TB reply template. If my cut mark really didn't
work, I would have seen two identical sigs.

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Re: How to see the whole email on the screen

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Maggie,

On Thursday, January 28, 2021 you wrote:

MM> Hi Jack,

MM> On Thursday, January 28, 2021 at 11:48:52 AM you wrote:

JSL>> I think I need someone to define the purpose of the cut mark because I 
thought
JSL>> it was to automatically eliminate everything below the cut mark 
(including the
JSL>> cut mark) when replying. 

MM> This was also my understanding. I wonder if the insertion of
MM> another cut mark by the particular virus checker after the sig
MM> prevents operation of the cut mark inserted by you in your
MM> template from working as designed?

Thank you Maggie, I never even noticed that the antivirus was inserting it's own
cut mark. Unfortunately, after spending a lot of time, but finally finding how 
to
eliminate it, my cut mark still doesn't work. I've sent myself messages both
from TB and from my Gmail account and each time when I reply to them the cut
mark and anything below it remains in the reply. So I have to abandon the quest
for a solution until well, I don't know when.

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Re: How to see the whole email on the screen

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Mike,

On Thursday, January 28, 2021 you wrote:

ML>  
ML>  Hello Jack,
ML>  
ML>  Wednesday, January 27, 2021, 10:04:54 PM, you wrote:
ML>  (Snipped)
ML>  
   By the way, your cut-mark doesn't seem to be working. It seems to be 
lacking the
   trailing space. It should be DASH-DASH-SPACE.
 A>>>  
   Good luck.
 A>>>  
   --
   Regards,
   Jack
   Central Alabama USA
 A>>>  
   The Bat! E-Mail Client by Ritlabs version 6.0.12
   Windows 10 Home Build 9200
 A>>>  
 A>>>  
 A>>>  Thanks for that, both my new and reply templates for the folder have
 A>>> DASH-DASH-SPACE so I'm not sure what is going on?
 A>>>  
 A>>>  --
 A>>>  Warmest regards,
 A>>>  
 A>>>  Acheton
 A>>>  Created using TheBat! 9.3.2 on Windows 10
ML>  
 >> Hmmm, very interesting. When I reply to this (your) email, I'm replying with
 >> your email quoted in the my reply. Your entire sig appears, cut mark, 
 >> Warmest
 >> regards etc. If I "select" (highlight) your cut mark, the highlight stops 
 >> after
 >> the two dashes. It does not stop after the trailing dash as you would expect
 >> indicating that the trailing space is not there. This is what prompted me to
 >> remark on it in the first place.
ML>  
 >> However, since this email also contains my original email to you, my sig is
 >> displayed also which means mine didn't work either. If I try to select
 >> (highlight) my cut mark. It will highlight the two dashes but not the 
 >> trailing
 >> space. Actually since my sig appears in the first place it would indicate 
 >> that
 >> my cut mark doesn't work also. And I *know* my cut mark is dash, dash, 
 >> space.
 >> It would seem that TB is stripping the trailing space on our cut marks 
 >> thereby
 >> rendering them inoperative. Or I've totally misconstrued the function of 
 >> the cut
 >> marks in the first place.
ML>  
 >> --
 >> Regards,
 >> Jack
 >> Central Alabama USA
ML>  
 >> The Bat! E-Mail Client by Ritlabs version 6.0.12
 >> Windows 10 Home Build 9200
ML>  
ML>  
ML>  Concerning your sig file, I had the same problem it wasn't being
ML> recognised the two dashes were there but the space was missing. I was
ML> creating my sig files in HTML mode which failed I found using plain text to
ML> create the sig all was well again. It always used to work in HTML but a
ML> while back it stopped working. I just selected all my sig file and then
ML> selected plain text and it seemed to work. Hope this helps Jack.
ML>  
ML>  Regards
ML>  
ML>  Mike
ML>  
ML>  
ML>  
ML>  
ML>  --
ML>  Catch ya later,
ML>  Mike
ML>  
ML>  E-mail:   
ML> mike.lums...@predator-fishing.org.uk   
ML>  All Mail Created With:- The Bat!  Version 9.3.3 (64-bit)
ML> Professional  Edition 
www.ritlabs.com/
ML>  Mail Filtered By: 
ML> AntiSpamSniper  For The Bat! Version 3.3.4.6   X64
ML>  Operating System:- 
Windows  10. 0  Build 19042   X64
ML>  System Secured By: 
ESET Smart Security Premium 14.0.22.0
ML> 

ML>  Cookie:
ML>  
ML>  Once upon a time there was a baby bat, but it grew and grew and grew and
ML>  grew with success!

I think I need someone to define the purpose of the cut mark because I thought
it was to automatically eliminate everything below the cut mark (including the
cut mark) when replying. When I clicked REPLY to this email Mike, your cut mark
and everything below it is visible.

For what it's worth, my editor is automatically set to Plain Text(MicroEd)
whenever I communicate with this list. Somewhere in the distant past it was
recommended to use Plain Text(MicroEd) for this list.

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Re: How to see the whole email on the screen

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Acheton,

On Wednesday, January 27, 2021 you wrote:

A>  
A>  Hi Jack,
A>  
A>  Friday, January 15, 2021, 4:46:56 PM, you wrote:
 >> Hello Acheton,
A>  
 >> On Friday, January 15, 2021 you wrote:
A>  
 A>>>  
 A>>>  Hi all,
 A>>>  
 A>>>  I wondered whether anyone could help. When I am composing emails in TB I
 A>>> have a problem whereby as I reach the edge of the screen (HTML) the 
earlier
 A>>> text disappears off the screen.  How can I set TB to show the whole of 
the email during composition?
A>  
 >> Not sure if this will help because I'm using an older version of TB but if 
 >> you
 >> go to OPTIONS-PREFERENCES-EDITOR PREFERENCES, then in the box that appears 
 >> is
 >> "Wrap text at xx characters".
A>  
 >> By the way, your cut-mark doesn't seem to be working. It seems to be 
 >> lacking the
 >> trailing space. It should be DASH-DASH-SPACE.
A>  
 >> Good luck.
A>  
 >> --
 >> Regards,
 >> Jack
 >> Central Alabama USA
A>  
 >> The Bat! E-Mail Client by Ritlabs version 6.0.12
 >> Windows 10 Home Build 9200
A>  
A>  
A>  Thanks for that, both my new and reply templates for the folder have
A> DASH-DASH-SPACE so I'm not sure what is going on?
A>  
A>  --
A>  Warmest regards,
A>  
A>  Acheton
A>  Created using TheBat! 9.3.2 on Windows 10

Hmmm, very interesting. When I reply to this (your) email, I'm replying with
your email quoted in the my reply. Your entire sig appears, cut mark, Warmest
regards etc. If I "select" (highlight) your cut mark, the highlight stops after
the two dashes. It does not stop after the trailing dash as you would expect
indicating that the trailing space is not there. This is what prompted me to
remark on it in the first place.

However, since this email also contains my original email to you, my sig is
displayed also which means mine didn't work either. If I try to select
(highlight) my cut mark. It will highlight the two dashes but not the trailing
space. Actually since my sig appears in the first place it would indicate that
my cut mark doesn't work also. And I *know* my cut mark is dash, dash, space.
It would seem that TB is stripping the trailing space on our cut marks thereby
rendering them inoperative. Or I've totally misconstrued the function of the cut
marks in the first place.

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Bulk mailings

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello TBUDL'ers,

My wife's TB (same version as mine 6.0.12) seems to have developed a problem
with mass mailings (more than one recipient). I tried to send myself a message
from her computer using the protocol I learned from this group. Namely, address
the email to yourself (her) and put everyone else's in the BCC field. So, from
her TB I addressed the email as FROM (her) and in the BCC field I put my two
email addresses. When I press SEND the COMMUNICATION CENTER appears and shows
the message being sent. The log status bar at the bottom of the screen says that
1 message had been sent. However, I never got the email in one of the accounts.
When I look at the log contents, these lines are shown:

<1/20/2021, 10:09:28: SEND  - message to em...@address.net and others sent 
(1512 bytes)
!1/20/2021, 10:09:28: FETCH - Connection to host broken (last commands sent 
were: "DATA", "RSET")
1/20/2021, 10:09:28: SEND  - connection finished - 1 message(s) sent

What does "connection to host broken" mean and could that line explain why the
message was received in only one of my accounts and not both?

If so, where do I start looking for the problem?

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Re: How to see the whole email on the screen

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Acheton,

On Friday, January 15, 2021 you wrote:

A>  
A>  Hi all,
A>  
A>  I wondered whether anyone could help. When I am composing emails in TB I
A> have a problem whereby as I reach the edge of the screen (HTML) the earlier
A> text disappears off the screen.  How can I set TB to show the whole of the 
email during composition?

Not sure if this will help because I'm using an older version of TB but if you
go to OPTIONS-PREFERENCES-EDITOR PREFERENCES, then in the box that appears is
"Wrap text at xx characters".

By the way, your cut-mark doesn't seem to be working. It seems to be lacking the
trailing space. It should be DASH-DASH-SPACE.

Good luck.

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Re: search for emails

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Tom,

On Sunday, December 27, 2020 you wrote:

T>  
T>  Monday, December 28, 2020, 1:42:23 PM, you wrote:
T>  
 >> Instead of using broad searches like Header, I search specific
 >> headers such as Sender and/or (as appropriate) Recipient. It works
 >> well over here, I do not get results that contain any false positives.
T>  
T>  Thanks,
T>  I do use sender or recipient too but sometimes you are just searching for 
all correspondence with one
T>  person and then it would be good to use header.  I think I did this in the 
past without issues and only
T>  in the last 3 months, I got that problem.
T>  
T>  Sorry about the incorrect footer. Not sure how I set this up many years 
ago, need to read up on this to
T>  see how to correct this.
T>  
T>  --
T>  Tom
T>  using TheBat! 8.8.9 on XP

Regarding the footer (cut mark) it's just DASH DASH SPACE ENTER.

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Re: search for emails

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Tom,

On Sunday, December 27, 2020 you wrote:

T>  
T>  Hello Everyone,
T>  
T>  not sure but it seems a setting in my bat has changed preventing me from
T> searching an email by header. I am sure I did this in the past and it worked:
T>  using header:  specific email address (either complete or parts of it), 
maybe adding some other criteria
T>  
T>  Now when doing so I am getting heaps of results which have nothing to do
T> with the header entered. So instead of using just header, I need to use text 
brackets or something
T>  less useful. Anything I forgot or has something changed?
T>  
T>  --
T>  Best regards,
T>  Tom  
T>  using TheBat! 8.8.9 on Win 10 , 64bit

This won't be very helpful I'm afraid except misery loves company. I have
always had problems with searching my emails. As you stated above you get heaps
of results none of which have anything to do with the header entered. I get
those same results almost every time I search for something. It helps sometimes
to change the search target. Instead of HEADER you can try TEXT or ANY PART.
This works sometimes but not nearly often enough. Either we're doing something
wrong or it just doesn't work correctly.

BTW, apparently your cut mark doesn't work as you can see. It has to be dash
dash space. I think you're missing the trailing space.


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Re: Serious problem with refilter

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Acheton,

On Tuesday, December 1, 2020 you wrote:

A>  
A>  Hi all,
A>  
A>  I'm having a serious problem with the re-filter function.  I have an inbox
A> and a manual filter set to run only that inbox and apply to read items.  The
A> folder is grouped by date.  When I run the filter on the folder, it
A> successfully moves all read items to another location.  However there is an
A> unfortunate side effect, as it refreshes the folder when moving items, the
A> selection jumps around the message list.  Depending on how long the message
A> is highlighted for it will mark some of the messages as read which is wrong! 
A> Anyone know how to resolve this?  It sounds like a bug to me.
A>  
A>  
A>  --
A>  Warmest regards,
A>  
A>  Acheton
A>  
A>  Created using TheBat! 9.3.0.2 on Windows 10

Not exactly a fix but more of a work-around - ACCOUNT>PROPERTIES>OPTIONS>mark
messages as read when it is being read for [x] seconds.

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Re: Problem when ALT-Tabbing

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello MFPA,

On Monday, November 30, 2020 you wrote:

M>  
M>  Hi
M>  
M>  
M>  On Monday 30 November 2020 at 10:35:32 AM, in
M>  , Acheton wrote:-
M>  
M>  
M>
M>   Hi all,
M>  
M>  Sometimes, when I ALT-tab away from TB to another window and then return I
M> get a long black bar appear at the top of the app as shown in the attachment.
M> Just wanted to report this problem..
M>  That seems very similar to https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2030 "Grey
M> unfilled area in main window after minimize to task bar and restore to full
M> screen state". (Although with the Themes, It's black in the ones I use.)
M>  
M>  
M>  
M>  --
M>  Best regards
M>  
M>  MFPA  
M>  
M>  Don't anthropomorphize computers - they hate it
M>  
M>  Using The Bat! Version 9.3.0.3 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 19041  

Black on black text again except when I reply, as now.

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Re: Problem when ALT-Tabbing

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello MAU,

On Monday, November 30, 2020 you wrote:

M> Hello Acheton,

>> Sometimes, when I ALT-tab away from TB to another window and then
>> return I get a long black bar appear at the top of the app as shown
>> in the attachment.  Just wanted to report this problem.

M> I have not been able to reproduce the problem.

Nor have I, although I am using a much older version.

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Re: OAUTH Grayed Out

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello MFPA,

On Monday, November 23, 2020 you wrote:

M>  
M>  Hi
M>  
M>  
M>  On Monday 23 November 2020 at 4:32:42 PM, in
M>  , Jack S. LaRosa wrote:-
M>  
M>  
 >> Hello MFPA,
M>  
 >> I suspect it's me, particularly since no one else
 >> seems to have mentioned it but
 >> your emails have started to come through as black on
 >> black text.
M>  
M>  It's me, not you. It has been mentioned in the "How to change the
M> background color of the Tree with the account folders" thread. It's to do
M> with the "themes" that have been introduced in recent TB! releases and betas,
M> and still have some teething troubles. If you are viewing in HTML, it may be
M> odd. In plain text it will, of course, be fine.
M>  
M>  I've tried tweaking my settings slightly; this one may or may not be better.
M>  
M>  --
M>  Best regards
M>  
M>  MFPA  <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net>
M>  
M>  You're only young once; you can be immature forever
M>  
M>  Using The Bat! Version 9.3.0.2 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 19041

Well, that eliminated the black on black body as you can see and it seems your
cutmark isn't working. I think the trailing space is missing.

Anyway, thanks.


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Re: OAUTH Grayed Out

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello MFPA,

On Monday, November 23, 2020 you wrote:


M>  Hi
M>  
M>  On Monday 23 November 2020 at 3:33:21 AM, in
M>  , David Shepherd wrote:-
M>  
M>
M>   I did find a work around for my Yahoo! account. Yahoo! offers the ability
M> to generate a third party app password.  This did work, whew!  When I have
M> the time and inclination I will try the method you described. Thank you for 
letting me know about your tip.
M>  I used that option when yahoo's new requirements first blocked access to my
M> accounts. With one account it failed after two or three days, with another it
M> worked for at least a week. Then I needed to generate another third party 
app password.
M>  
M>  --
M>  Best regards
M>  
M>  MFPA  
M>  
M>  People say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing every day.
M>  
M>  Using The Bat! Version 9.3.0.2 (64-bit) on Windows 10.0 Build 19041  

I suspect it's me, particularly since no one else seems to have mentioned it but
your emails have started to come through as black on black text. Your cut mark
and the rest of your sig is pale gray on black. It's only if I click on REPLY
that I can see the body of your text (as above). My view mode is folder tree on
the left, email list on the right and email contents at the bottom (Full-width
Preview pane).

Is it me?

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Re: Ghost address

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello MFPA,

On Wednesday, August 12, 2020 you wrote:

M> Hi


M> On Wednesday 12 August 2020 at 10:05:15 PM, in
M> , Jack S. LaRosa wrote:-


>> Where might I look for this mysterious address? Ideas
>> anyone?  


M> Probably just came from the message you received.

M> Try looking at Options | Preferences | Address History for some ideas 
M> where to look.

M> Also see Options | Preferences | Message Headers, select To or CC or 
M> BCC, then the Editing tab.

Good suggestions M. I may have *fixed* it by specifying suggestions come only
from my Default Address Book and nothing else. I can no longer replicate the
*suggestion* in a new email as before. I'll have to wait to see if it happens
again on an incoming email from him.

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Ghost address

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello TBUDL'ers,

I received an email (on my PC) from "CHARTER http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Account tree font

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Bill,

On Sunday, June 21, 2020 you wrote:


BM> On Sun, 2020-06-21, Paul Van Noord wrote:
BM> 
> I've just noticed that the font in my account tree has been changed. No 
> idea how
> it might have happened but would like to change it back to what it was. 
> Anybody
> know how to do that?

TF Go to: Options / Preferences / Message List / Fonts.

TF Over here, it says Segoe UI, which is the orginal font set by Ritlabs.
TF Maybe this got changed unintentionally with an unknown keyboard shortcut.

BM> I think that you should try:
BM>Options / Preferences / System / Account Tree Font


Well, whadaya know Thanks Bill, and thanks to all who replied.

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Re: Account tree font

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Paul,

On Sunday, June 21, 2020 you wrote:

PVN> 6/21/2020  12:35 PM

PVN> Hi Jack,

PVN> On 6/21/2020 Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

TF>>> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 17:51:34 -0500 GMT (21-Jun-20, 5:51 +0700 GMT),
TF>>> Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

>>>> I've just noticed that the font in my account tree has been changed. No 
>>>> idea how
>>>> it might have happened but would like to change it back to what it was. 
>>>> Anybody
>>>> know how to do that?

TF>>> Go to: Options / Preferences / Message List / Fonts.

TF>>> Over here, it says Segoe UI, which is the orginal font set by Ritlabs.
TF>>> Maybe this got changed unintentionally with an unknown keyboard shortcut.

JSL>> When I follow your path I see that mine also shows Segoe UI and I learned 
that
JSL>> no matter what you change that font to, nothing changes in the account 
tree AND
JSL>> when you go back you find that Segoe UI is right back where it was before 
you
JSL>> changed it. In other words, you can't change it. I just love TB!

JSL>> The Bat! E-Mail Client by Ritlabs version 6.0.12
JSL>> Windows 10 Home Build 9200

PVN> Changed  mine  to  Verdana when I was using version 6.. it is still that
PVN> way.   Apparently  you  have  something  interfering  with  saving  your
PVN> change...

Well, of course I have no idea of what happened but NOW I can change the listed
font (Options/Preferences/Message List/Fonts) and it will *stay* changed
but... the change has no effect on the account tree font. It looks like SMALL
CAPS, not Segoe UI.

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Re: Account tree font

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Thomas,

On Saturday, June 20, 2020 you wrote:

TF> Hello Jack,

TF> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 17:51:34 -0500 GMT (21-Jun-20, 5:51 +0700 GMT),
TF> Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

>> I've just noticed that the font in my account tree has been changed. No idea 
>> how
>> it might have happened but would like to change it back to what it was. 
>> Anybody
>> know how to do that?

TF> Go to: Options / Preferences / Message List / Fonts.

TF> Over here, it says Segoe UI, which is the orginal font set by Ritlabs.
TF> Maybe this got changed unintentionally with an unknown keyboard shortcut.

When I follow your path I see that mine also shows Segoe UI and I learned that
no matter what you change that font to, nothing changes in the account tree AND
when you go back you find that Segoe UI is right back where it was before you
changed it. In other words, you can't change it. I just love TB!

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Re: Account tree font

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello MFPA,

On Sunday, June 21, 2020 you wrote:

M> Hi


M> On Sunday 21 June 2020 at 4:09:27 AM, in
M> , Thomas Fernandez wrote:-


>> Go to: Options / Preferences / Message List / Fonts.

M> Also, colour groups can define a font as well 
M> as a colour.

Would that it were so. I never assigned a color group to anything in TB! so it's
unlikely that's the answer. But thanks for the thought.

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Re: Account tree font

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Andrew,

On Saturday, June 20, 2020 you wrote:

AS> Hello Jack,

AS> Sunday, June 21, 2020, 8:21:34 AM, you wrote:

>> Using TB! 6.0.12
>> OS: Win 10 v6 Build: 9200

AS> Are these versions correct?..

They should be as they are generated by macros in the new message template.

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Account tree font

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello TBUDL'ers,

I've just noticed that the font in my account tree has been changed. No idea how
it might have happened but would like to change it back to what it was. Anybody
know how to do that?

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Re: [EXT]

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Christopher,

On Friday, June 12, 2020 you wrote:

CW> On 2020-06-11 at  8:24 AM, Jack S. LaRosa  wrote:
>> I noticed that some of the messages from one particular addressee have
>> "RE:[EXT](original subject)" in the subject line. Anyone know why? All my 
>> other
>> messages from others simply have a subject without the RE:[EXT].

CW> I assume this stands for "external". Some MTAs/mail servers are configured
CW> to add these subject prefixes to messages that are sent from outside the
CW> domain/company. My company adds "[EXTERNAL]" on my work mail.

Ah, thank you Christopher. I'm sure you're right as these messages come from my
daughter's company email address.

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RE: [EXT]

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello TBUDL'ers,

I noticed that some of the messages from one particular addressee have
"RE:[EXT](original subject)" in the subject line. Anyone know why? All my other
messages from others simply have a subject without the RE:[EXT].

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Re: Are Roguemoticons still active?

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello MFPA,

On Monday, June 8, 2020 you wrote:

M> Hi


M> On Monday 8 June 2020 at 6:22:33 PM, in
M> , Jack S. LaRosa wrote:-


>> So you're no longer getting the "internal server error"?  

M> The main point is I don't see the Roguemoticon images any more in the
M> message header when viewing messages.

Ah, neither do I. Haven't in a long time.

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Re: Are Roguemoticons still active?

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello MFPA,

On Monday, June 8, 2020 you wrote:

M> Hi


M> On Monday 8 June 2020 at 3:50:55 PM, in
M> , Jack S. LaRosa wrote:-

>> FWIW, the link you posted takes me to the PCWIZE.COM
>> WELCOME screen.  


M> That's right. The title now just says "Welcome to" without
M> "Roguemoticons" on the end; most of the page is still the same.
M> Probably better to look at one of the snapshots archived at Way Back
M> Machine.
M> https://web.archive.org/web/20160403233201/http://pcwize.com/thebat/

M> A few of us on this list are still using an X-Rogue: header

M>   Marck Pearlstone
M>   Mark Partous
M>   MAU
M>   MFPA (me!)
M>   Peter Meyns
M>   Thomas Fernandez

M> But I'm not convinced that it still does anything.

So you're no longer getting the "internal server error"?

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Re: Are Roguemoticons still active?

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello MFPA,

On Sunday, June 7, 2020 you wrote:


M> Hi,

M> Are Roguemoticons still active?

M> I still have the rogues.msl file and the Rogues images folder in place 
M> under Program Files\The Bat!\Images. But I don't see the images any 
M> more in the message header when viewing messages, apart from a few 
M> people for whom I have a photo in an address book entry. 

M> I have not received any email notifications that "Someone new has
M> joined or updated their image on Roguemoticons" since November 2013. I 
M> just tried logging on at http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/ and it told 
M> me:-

M>  Internal Server Error

M>  The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and
M>  was unable to complete your request.

M>  Please contact the server administrator, and inform them of the
M>  time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that
M>  may have caused the error.

M>  More information about this error may be available in the server
M>  error log.
M>  
M> I also have an incoming message filter called catch_rogue that I 
M> vaguely recall was something to do with picking up Roguemoticons that 
M> were not already on my machine. 

M>  TB! Message Filter 
M> beginFilter
M> UID: [02B2FF90.01CEE96F.230962BE.141169BB]
M> Name: catch_rogue
M> Filter: {\0D\0A\20`7`X-Rogue`5`.\0D\0A}
M> ExportMessage FmtText filename
M> I:\5CThe\20Bat!\5CProtocol_Logging\5CThe_Bat!_roguesfiltr.log
M> filenamerelative %WDIR%\5CProtocol_Logging\5CThe_Bat!_roguesfiltr.log
M> template
M> 
%_rogue\3D\22%OHEADER(X-Rogue)\22%-\0D\0A%_roguesmsl\3D\22%PROGRAMDIR\5Cimages\5Crogues.msl\22%-\0D\0A%_allrogues\3D\22%PUT\3D\27%_roguesmsl\27\22%-\0D\0A%IF:~%SETPATTREGEXP\3D\22%_rogue\22%-\0D\0A%REGEXPMATCH(%_allrogues)~\3D~~:~\0D\0A%DATE\20%TIME\0D\0A%XMP_UrlDldFile(\22http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/getrogue.php?id\3D%_rogue\22,%-\0D\0A\22%XMP_TempDir%-rogue\22)%-\0D\0A%_path\3D\22%SETPATTREGEXP\3D\27URL\5C:\5Cs(.*?)[\5Cs\5Cn]\27%REGEXPMATCH\3D\27%PUT\3D`%XMP_TempDir%-rogue`\27\22%-\0D\0A%_filename\3D\22%SETPATTREGEXP\3D\27.*\5C/(.*?)$\27%REGEXPMATCH(%_path)\22%-\0D\0A%IF:#%_path#<>##:#\0D\0A%_path\0D\0A%_filename\0D\0A%IF:`%XMP_UrlDldFile(\22%_path\22,%-\0D\0A\22%PROGRAMDIR\5Cimages\5Crogues\5C%_filename\22)%-\0D\0A`<>`1`:`%-\0D\0A\20ERROR!\20File\20not\20downloaded!\0D\0A`:`%XMP_FileAddLn(\27%_roguesmsl\27,%-\0D\0A\27Smiley\20\3D\20\22.\5Crogues\5C%_filename\22,\200,\20\22%_rogue\22\27)`%-\0D\0A#:#%-\0D\0AError!\20%_rogue\20has\20no\20picture\20on\20server.\0D\0A#%XMP_FileDel(\22%XMP_TempDir%-rogue\22)%-\0D\0A~%-
M> IsContinue
M> IsActive
M> IsCheckRule
M> Ignore
M> Hotkey 24658
M> endFilter
M>  
M>  
M> The file "The_Bat!_roguesfiltr.log" contains mainly entries like- 

M> 07 June 2020 12:44
M> Error!  has no picture on server. 


M> Is it time, after nearly 16 years, to retire my "X-Rogue" header?
M> 

FWIW, the link you posted takes me to the PCWIZE.COM WELCOME screen.

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Re: POP - "Getting number of messages"

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Tbudl,

On Tuesday, May 26, 2020 you wrote:

bemc> Hello Friends,

bemc> I use POP to download messages, about 75 filters are used to place
bemc> messages in appropriate folders as well.

bemc> since of late, for about a month or so, it was observed that it takes
bemc> a long time at ""Getting number of messages" and sometimes it just
bemc> goes on unless I have to DELETE TASK or ABORT ALL. Sometimes, it
bemc> checks immediately as usually done.

bemc> I have set auto check of emails every one minute.

bemc> Is there any suggestions/remedy for this?

One thing you might want to check is if there's some program that's hogging CPU
time. Move your cursor down into the task bar and right-click. Then click on
TASK MANAGER. When it comes up click on the header POWER USAGE to get the most
hungry app to the top. (My apologies if you're already familiar with this).

Microsoft automatically runs a program called "Anti Malware Service Executable"
(MsMpEng.exe). It's an anti-malware program which has lately (on my computer)
become VERY demanding of CPU time. I have begun to have constant problems with
this program freezing my computer until it releases the CPU. It has high 
priority
and cannot be made lower priority.

Just a thought.

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Re: Header field larger or smaller than X

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Andrew,

On Thursday, May 14, 2020 you wrote:

AS> Hello,

AS> Is there a way to test if header field is greater or smaller than "X"?

AS> Attaching screenshot of the current "solution" which is obviously
AS> non-optimal and tedious to maintain if the range of values is large.

There was no attachment.

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Re: Reply all quoting selected text

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Marck,

On Saturday, May 9, 2020 you wrote:


MP> On 09 May 2020 at 16:59 Jack S. LaRosa wrote and made these points

MP> ... 
JSL>> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html has a button to 
subscribe to
JSL>> the TBOT discussion list however, all I can see to do is to subscribe to 
Yahoo.
JSL>> Even after subscribing to Yahoo I still don't see how to access TBOT>

MP> TBOT  a YahooGroup. You subscribe to the group as a mailing list, like
MP> TBUDL.  Once  subscribed, you get emails sent to the list and are able
MP> to write to the other members there.

MP> All is working as it should.

MP> I don't know what you are expecting.

MP> There's more information here: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/tbot/info

So, having successfully subscribed (I think) I can expect emails from other TBOT
list members to start appearing automatically as they do with TBUDL?

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Re: Reply all quoting selected text

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Marck,

On Saturday, May 9, 2020 you wrote:


MP> On 09 May 2020 at 15:34 Jack S. LaRosa wrote and made these points

MP> ... 
AS>>> Please refer to the screenshot attached.

JSL>> TB! won't allow screenshots or any photo for that matter. I've always 
assumed it
JSL>> was for security reasons but I don't know for sure. I think some people 
have
JSL>> used links to Dropbox before but that's risky as well.

MP> Here's a screen shot. Let's see if it works.

MP> The  constraint  is message size. I massaged this image, shrunk it and
MP> lowered jpg quality to 50% to make it small enough to be attachable on
MP> this list.

Hi Marck, the following is an email you sent me several years ago. Still valid?

-- Begin copied message ---
Dear Jack,

@18-Nov-2017, 9:14  -0600  (19-Nov 05:19 here) Jack S. LaRosa [JSL]
in mid:1683949350.20171118231...@charter.net said to MFPA:  

LG>>>> I'm not sure we can add attachments, but maybe it would be okay
... 

It would.

>>> I've uploaded pics to Dropbox and sent people links to the pics
>>> before. Not sure if even that is acceptable.

It is.

M>> I have never noticed anybody getting "trouted" when they posted links
M>> to screenshots. So it has been accepted, which I guess means it is 
M>> acceptable.

JSL> Thanks M. I'll see what happens.

Here's the lore:

Attachments (inc screen-shots) are perfectly acceptable (although HTML
messages  are  frowned upon because they invariably double the size of
any simple message and our transmission facilities are provided FOC by
a generous host, on whose generosity I /know/ none of us would wish to
over-impose).

...HOWEVER...

There  are  limits  to the size of permitted attachments. 25k on TBUDL
and  75k  on TBBETA. If your screen-shot is small enough, attach it by
all  means.  You  can  even chance it. The worst that can happen is an
automated rejection from the Mailman server.


I hope that clarifies things.

-- 
Cheers -- Marck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! 
v8.0.10.1 (BETA) on Windows 10.0.16299 

'
-- End copied message -

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Re: Reply all quoting selected text

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Jack,

On Saturday, May 9, 2020 you wrote:

JSL> Hello Marck,

JSL> On Saturday, May 9, 2020 you wrote:


MP>> On 09 May 2020 at 15:34 Jack S. LaRosa wrote and made these points

MP>> ... 
AS>>>> Please refer to the screenshot attached.

JSL>>> TB! won't allow screenshots or any photo for that matter. I've always 
assumed it
JSL>>> was for security reasons but I don't know for sure. I think some people 
have
JSL>>> used links to Dropbox before but that's risky as well.

MP>> Here's a screen shot. Let's see if it works.

MP>> The  constraint  is message size. I massaged this image, shrunk it and
MP>> lowered jpg quality to 50% to make it small enough to be attachable on
MP>> this list.

JSL> No screenshot appeared anywhere. But while I've got your attention, your
JSL> previous email providing the following link:
JSL> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html has a button to 
subscribe to
JSL> the TBOT discussion list however, all I can see to do is to subscribe to 
Yahoo.
JSL> Even after subscribing to Yahoo I still don't see how to access TBOT>

My apologies for the previous email regarding access to TBOT. I just saw that an
email from "tbot Moderator" explains all.

Again, my apologies.

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Re: Reply all quoting selected text

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Marck,

On Saturday, May 9, 2020 you wrote:


MP> On 09 May 2020 at 15:34 Jack S. LaRosa wrote and made these points

MP> ... 
AS>>> Please refer to the screenshot attached.

JSL>> TB! won't allow screenshots or any photo for that matter. I've always 
assumed it
JSL>> was for security reasons but I don't know for sure. I think some people 
have
JSL>> used links to Dropbox before but that's risky as well.

MP> Here's a screen shot. Let's see if it works.

MP> The  constraint  is message size. I massaged this image, shrunk it and
MP> lowered jpg quality to 50% to make it small enough to be attachable on
MP> this list.

No screenshot appeared anywhere. But while I've got your attention, your
previous email providing the following link:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html has a button to subscribe to
the TBOT discussion list however, all I can see to do is to subscribe to Yahoo.
Even after subscribing to Yahoo I still don't see how to access TBOT>

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Re: Reply all quoting selected text

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Andrew,

On Saturday, May 9, 2020 you wrote:

AS> Hello Miguel,

AS> Saturday, May 9, 2020, 5:45:04 PM, you wrote:

>> Excuse my ignorance and/or blindness. Where can I find that option?

AS> Please refer to the screenshot attached.


TB! won't allow screenshots or any photo for that matter. I've always assumed it
was for security reasons but I don't know for sure. I think some people have
used links to Dropbox before but that's risky as well.

I have no solution for you, sorry.

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Re: Formatting

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Thomas,

On Friday, May 1, 2020 you wrote:

TF> Hello Jack,

TF> On Fri, 1 May 2020 11:16:56 -0500 GMT (01-May-20, 23:16 +0700 GMT),
TF> Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

DE>>> Try Ctrl + shift + V

>> I've run into the same problem as Tom and that does seem to work. May I ask
>> where in TB you found that?

TF> When you want to paste, right-click on where you want to paste to. In
TF> the context menu, you have Paste (which uses the original font and
TF> formating, same as ctril-V) and you have Paste as Plaintext
TF> (shift-crtl-V).

Doh! Yes, of course. I just never noticed the keyboard equivalent in the context
menu before. Tunnel vision.

Anyway, thanks for the reply and the original tip.

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Re: Formatting

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello David,

On Friday, May 1, 2020 you wrote:

DE> Salutation Tom,

DE> Try Ctrl + shift + V

I've run into the same problem as Tom and that does seem to work. May I ask
where in TB you found that?

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TMP files

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello TBUDL'ers,

I just noticed my wife's laptop HDD is almost full. I ran WinDerStat to get a
visual representation of the contents of her HDD. The results showed that at
least a quarter of the HDD space is taken up by .tmp files, all in TB's folders.
Can I simply select all of TB's .tmp files and delete them?

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Re: Sig cutoff

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello MFPA,

On Monday, September 9, 2019 you wrote:

M> Hi


M> On Monday 9 September 2019 at 1:15:16 AM, in
M> , Jack S. LaRosa wrote:-


>> Interesting. As you can see it didn't activate in my
>> reply either.  

M> Your cut mark in the message to which I am replying worked. 

M> If there is more than one cut mark in a message, only the last one 
M> works. And if a cut mark is quoted from a previous message, the quote 
M> prefix means it is no longer a valid cut mark as the two dashes and 
M> single space are not the only characters on the line.

Understood, thanks.

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Re: Sig cutoff

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello MFPA,

On Sunday, September 8, 2019 you wrote:

M> Hi


M> On Wednesday 4 September 2019 at 3:47:41 AM, in
M> , Chris Wilson wrote:-



>> I  checked before posting this, delimiter is present,
>> two dashes and a
>> space.

>> -- 

>> Chris Wilson

M> Received with the delimiter intact. But for some reason it hasn't 
M> activated in my reply.

M> I thought about looking for clues in the message source but was 
M> prevented by Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64.

Interesting. As you can see it didn't activate in my reply either.

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Re: Sig cutoff

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Andrew,

On Friday, September 6, 2019 you wrote:

AS> Hello Jack,

AS> Saturday, September 7, 2019, 1:56:47 AM, you wrote:

>> If you go here:
>> https://www.ritlabs.com/en/support/help/73/?sphrase_id=741184#6676 and search
>> for "signature delimiter" you'll find a couple of references to it.

AS> Ah, I thought there is a separate setting that can be toggled on/off. 
AS> Interestingly, this feature seems to work on some messages (e.g. it 
AS> worked as expected on your letter), but fails when there is no space 
AS> after "--".

As with any macro, if a part or parts of it is missing, it will not function as
expected. The trailing space is part of the macro.

AS> Do you know if there is a way to make it check for ^--$ regexp?

No, I'm sorry but my knowledge of regexp is extremely scant.


AS> Thanks,
AS> A



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Re: Sig cutoff

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Thomas,

On Sunday, September 1, 2019 you wrote:

TF> Hello Jack,

TF> On Sun, 1 Sep 2019 17:40:09 -0500 GMT (02-Sep-19, 5:40 +0700 GMT),
TF> Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

TF>>> --

TF>>> Cheers,
TF>>> Thomas.

TF>>> Message reply created with The Bat! Version 8.8.9 (64-bit)
TF>>> under Windows 10.0 Build 18362


TF>>> 
TF>>> Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
TF>>> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

>> I may not be explaining myself adequately. For instance, in replying to this
>> email from you, I can still see your sig cutoff and everything below it. I
>> thought your sig cutoff and everything below it should not be there when I 
>> click
>> REPLY and the editor window opens.

TF> Funny thing, this: The cut-off works when I reply to your message, but
TF> not when I reply to my own. I double-checked, and yes, there is one
TF> black after the two dashes in my template...

TF> Please try to reply to your own message and see whether it works fine.

TF> --


TF> Cheers,
TF> Thomas.

TF> Message reply created with The Bat! Version 8.8.9 (64-bit)
TF> under Windows 10.0 Build 18362


TF> 
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As you can see above, your entire sig is present in this reply. However, if I
place the cursor at the beginning of the dash-dash-space in your email above and
press END on my keyboard, the cursor goes only to the end of the last dash. If
there was a space there I would think the cursor would have stopped one space
beyond the last dash.

When I reply to the email I sent you on 1 Sep 2019, none of my original sig on
that email appears in the reply. Exactly the opposite of what you're
experiencing.

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Re: Log entry definition

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Thomas,

On Saturday, August 31, 2019 you wrote:

TF> Hello Jack,

TF> On Sat, 31 Aug 2019 16:57:26 -0500 GMT (01-Sep-19, 4:57 +0700 GMT),
TF> Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

>> Hello Thomas,

>> On Friday, August 30, 2019 you wrote:

TF>>> Hello MFPA,

TF>>> On Sat, 31 Aug 2019 02:24:29 +0100 GMT (31-Aug-19, 8:24 +0700 GMT),
TF>>> MFPA wrote:

>>>>> I also notice %THEBATVERSION macro fails to return
>>>>> the "(64-bit)"
>>>>> suffix. I just reported this at
>>>>> https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=1809.


>>>> It seems this was already addressed. There is now
>>>> %THEBATVERSION(WITHBITS) and several other variants. See Max's reply
>>>> to https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=1809.

TF>>> It works! Wow.

TF>>> --

TF>>> Cheers,
TF>>> Thomas.

TF>>> Message reply created with The Bat! Version 8.8.9 (64-bit)
TF>>> under Windows 10.0 Build 18362


>> Interestingly (and unfortunately), some do and some don't. I have a .png 
>> here:

>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/534amc5masob0kk/TBsig.png?dl=0

>> which shows how the bottom of my sig is configured. It can be compared to the
>> sig in this reply. I thought it was working when I replied to MFPA on the 
>> 29th
>> but apparently not now. The template in use (and confirmed) is in the folder
>> properties of my TBDL folder.

>> I hope it's acceptable to include a Dropbox link to a picture 'cause if it
>> isn't, I've long since forgotten how else to do it or even if it can be done.

>> TIA

TF> [sig was automitically cut; reinserting:]

>> The Bat! E-Mail Client by Ritlabs version 6.0.12

TF> Maybe the macro doesn't work with v6.x.

Yes, that would be my luck.

TF> --

TF> Cheers,
TF> Thomas.

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TF> under Windows 10.0 Build 18362


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Re: Sig cutoff

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Thomas,

On Saturday, August 31, 2019 you wrote:

TF> Hello Jack,

TF> On Sat, 31 Aug 2019 18:09:48 -0500 GMT (01-Sep-19, 6:09 +0700 GMT),
TF> Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

>> I just noticed that the sig cutoff "-- " doesn't seem to work when I reply, 
>> or
>> maybe I am not understanding what it's for.

TF> It workes here reliably and also did so in v6.x. You may have
TF> "touched" that line with the curser and added or substracted a blank.

TF> --

TF> Cheers,
TF> Thomas.

TF> Message reply created with The Bat! Version 8.8.9 (64-bit)
TF> under Windows 10.0 Build 18362


TF> 
TF> Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
TF> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

I may not be explaining myself adequately. For instance, in replying to this
email from you, I can still see your sig cutoff and everything below it. I
thought your sig cutoff and everything below it should not be there when I click
REPLY and the editor window opens.

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Sig cutoff

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello TBUDL'ers,

I just noticed that the sig cutoff "-- " doesn't seem to work when I reply, or
maybe I am not understanding what it's for.

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