Backup files

2014-01-09 Thread Leonard S. Berkowitz
Even though, within TheBat, a daily backup occurs, the backup file,
C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\TheBat!\Autobackup.tbk\ is not being
copied to my external backup device (a memory stick) at all. My system
backup procedure has multiple tasks defined for every directory
(folder) that I want to backup, including a task for the directory
(folder) that contains Autobackup.TBK. Whew! That is a mouthful.

Note that this backup file is located in TheBat! directory and not in
the TheBat!\Backup directory. The TheBat!\Backup folder is, in fact,
empty.

Note also that in the TheBat! directory there is a series of files,
Autobackup.$1, .$2, .$3, .$4 and $.5, each one larger than the
previous one and each one with a later creation date starting in
October, 2012 when I have work done on the computer through November,
2013.

As far as I can tell, the backup for TheBat is:

--Standard
--No file name entered in the window for Backupfile

So, while TheBat is being backed-up at one level, the backup is
unprotected insofar as it is not copied to an external medium in the same
way that all of my personal files are backed up. The task to backup
TheBat! runs every night, but does not copy Autobackup.TBK to the
external medium.

My question is: why does my backup task not recognize that
Autobackup.TBK is newer than the one on the backup medium. After all,
it is recreated every night.

(Once I solve this problem, I will probably come back to the list to
ask for advice about the relative merit of Standard or Incremental
backup.)

Thanks for you patience in reading this long note.

Leonard

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Re: Backup files

2014-01-09 Thread Paul Berger
Hello TBUDL@thebat.,

Thursday, January 9, 2014, 7:28:58 PM, you wrote:

LSB Even though, within TheBat, a daily backup occurs, the backup file,
LSB C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\TheBat!\Autobackup.tbk\ is not being
LSB copied to my external backup device (a memory stick) at all. My system
LSB backup procedure has multiple tasks defined for every directory
LSB (folder) that I want to backup, including a task for the directory
LSB (folder) that contains Autobackup.TBK. Whew! That is a mouthful.

LSB Note that this backup file is located in TheBat! directory and not in
LSB the TheBat!\Backup directory. The TheBat!\Backup folder is, in fact,
LSB empty.

LSB Note also that in the TheBat! directory there is a series of files,
LSB Autobackup.$1, .$2, .$3, .$4 and $.5, each one larger than the
LSB previous one and each one with a later creation date starting in
LSB October, 2012 when I have work done on the computer through November,
LSB 2013.

LSB As far as I can tell, the backup for TheBat is:

LSB --Standard
LSB --No file name entered in the window for Backupfile

LSB So, while TheBat is being backed-up at one level, the backup is
LSB unprotected insofar as it is not copied to an external medium in the same
LSB way that all of my personal files are backed up. The task to backup
LSB TheBat! runs every night, but does not copy Autobackup.TBK to the
LSB external medium.

LSB My question is: why does my backup task not recognize that
LSB Autobackup.TBK is newer than the one on the backup medium. After all,
LSB it is recreated every night.

LSB (Once I solve this problem, I will probably come back to the list to
LSB ask for advice about the relative merit of Standard or Incremental
LSB backup.)

LSB Thanks for you patience in reading this long note.

LSB Leonard



I gave up on automatic backup of The Bat and use manual backup to the
file that I nominate in My Documents. So my automatic backup of my
data etc. works fine. (It has rescued me in the past.)


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Re: Backup files

2014-01-09 Thread Leonard S. Berkowitz
On Thursday, January 9, 2014, 5:34:42 AM, you (tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote:

 I gave up on automatic backup of The Bat and use manual backup to the
 file that I nominate in My Documents. So my automatic backup of my
 data etc. works fine. (It has rescued me in the past.)


Thanks. I will have to mull that over.

Leonard
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Re: Backup files

2014-01-09 Thread Chris Wilson
 Even though, within TheBat, a daily backup occurs, the backup file,
 C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\TheBat!\Autobackup.tbk\ is not being
 copied to my external backup device (a memory stick) at all. My system
 backup procedure has multiple tasks defined for every directory
 (folder) that I want to backup, including a task for the directory
 (folder) that contains Autobackup.TBK. Whew! That is a mouthful.

 Note that this backup file is located in TheBat! directory and not in
 the TheBat!\Backup directory. The TheBat!\Backup folder is, in fact,
 empty.

 Note also that in the TheBat! directory there is a series of files,
 Autobackup.$1, .$2, .$3, .$4 and $.5, each one larger than the
 previous one and each one with a later creation date starting in
 October, 2012 when I have work done on the computer through November,
 2013.

 As far as I can tell, the backup for TheBat is:

 --Standard
 --No file name entered in the window for Backupfile

 So, while TheBat is being backed-up at one level, the backup is
 unprotected insofar as it is not copied to an external medium in the same
 way that all of my personal files are backed up. The task to backup
 TheBat! runs every night, but does not copy Autobackup.TBK to the
 external medium.

 My question is: why does my backup task not recognize that
 Autobackup.TBK is newer than the one on the backup medium. After all,
 it is recreated every night.

 (Once I solve this problem, I will probably come back to the list to
 ask for advice about the relative merit of Standard or Incremental
 backup.)

 Thanks for you patience in reading this long note.

 Leonard



09 January 2014


Since many TB! users are power users with huge databases it's sad that
TB!'s in built backup mechanism seems generally considered flawed and
unreliable. It cost me the loss of a lot of precious personal mail and
attachments recently. I now use a programme called Second Copy and
turn off TB!'s internal backup feature. I would say such an important
feature should be 100% reliable, or removed. When you need it you must
be able to rely on it!

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Re: Backup files

2014-01-09 Thread MFPA
Hi


On Thursday 9 January 2014 at 11:28:10 AM, in
mid:732513153.20140109062...@gmail.com, Leonard S. Berkowitz wrote:


 Thanks. I will have to mull that over.

I sometimes use a batch file to start TB!, and when I close TB! the
batch file goes on to back up my TB! registry key to a text file in my
TB! program directory, and to create a backup using 7-zip of both my
TB! program directory and my TB! mail directory.


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Re: Wish: Serching in mesgbases (messages.tbb) outside The Bat! and in backup files (TBK)

2006-03-05 Thread MFPA

Hi

On Wednesday 1 March 2006 at 1:04:11 PM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Marek Mikus wrote:

  ...and TB will search them without loading them on start.

Would it be possible to have TB! not load any folder until you
actually wish to view that folder?

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Wish: Serching in mesgbases (messages.tbb) outside The Bat! and in backup files (TBK)

2006-03-01 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello,
I have added this wish as https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5719, if
You are interested, please support.

Msgbases grows and if has user thousands of messages in hundreds folders,
TB becomes slow and eats much memory when loading msgbases. These messages
are mainly archives of mailinglists and are used for searching only, so it
is not needed to have them accessible via TB's interface, they can be
stored on HDD or CD and TB will search them without loading them on start.
BTW if they are stored on CD, user must create folders in TB and assign
them to folders on CD to using them for searching.

And of course, it will be great to allow searching messages in TBK files
created by The Bat!.

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Thanks and Bye,

Marek Mikus
Czech support of The Bat!
http://www.thebat.cz

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