Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat
Hello Darrin, Tuesday, August 3, 2004, 2:34:45 PM, you wrote: DR Hello, DR Any users of Mailwasher Pro with TB! here? Just curious about how it DR works with TB!. Good and bad experiences. Works Fine for me on 4.1.7.5 -- Best regards, dangermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat
Hello Darrin! On Tuesday, August 03, 2004, 1:34 PM, you wrote: DR Any users of Mailwasher Pro with TB! here? ... I used MailWasher Pro before I ever got The Bat! I still have it on my machine, but it's only as a back-up in case anything (I hope nothing and never) should cause me to have to go back to Outlook Express temporarily. I ran MailWasher Pro with The Bat! for awhile. No problems. But I don't do that any more. It's redundant, in my opinion--I can do everything that MailWasher does using The Bat! all by itself. -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat
Hi Mary, On 8/3/2004 12:43 PM my time, Mary wrote: MB I ran MailWasher Pro with The Bat! for awhile. No problems. But I MB don't do that any more. It's redundant, in my opinion--I can do MB everything that MailWasher does using The Bat! all by itself. Thanks for the input. I havent installed it myself, so Im unaware of its features. -- Darrin WinXP Home Service Pack 1 Tbat! 2.12.00 Is reading in the bathroom considered Multi-Tasking? pgpIoJsY17ZTu.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat
Hello Darrin! On Tuesday, August 03, 2004, 2:55 PM, you wrote: MB I ran MailWasher Pro with The Bat! for awhile. ... DR Thanks for the input. I havent installed it myself, so Im unaware of DR its features. Basically MailWasher lets you manage your POP3 mail on the server. The Bat! also has that capability. -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat
Hi Mary, On 8/3/2004 1:06 PM my time, Mary wrote: MB Basically MailWasher lets you manage your POP3 mail on the server. The MB Bat! also has that capability. Ok, I see. Thanks for clearing that up. Save me a download there :p -- Darrin WinXP Home Service Pack 1 Tbat! 2.12.00 Stack Overflow: Too many pancakes... pgpp8WLUtHz6i.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat
Hi Simon, On 8/3/2004 2:48 PM my time, Simon wrote: SF Mailwasher [4.1.7.5] not only checks the mail on the server [POP or SF IMAP] but also has White/Blacklist, Bayesian Filtering/Learning, SF Blacklist (e.g. sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org) checking and lastly their own SF Spam Altert service titled First Alert which is a £3.50 (UK Pounds)a SF year subscription service contianing details of known and identified SF Spam. Many features. I might have to download a trial version to see it. Can Domains be deleted from server just using TB! by itself? I know I can delete specific senders. SF I've had superb 99.9% results with K9, but, I'm running Mailwasher SF right now and can vouch for it's Spam detection abilities too Ive also experimented with K9. Very pleased with the spam detection. -- Darrin WinXP Home Service Pack 1 Tbat! 2.12.00 Computer Science: solving today's problems tomorrow. pgpIzdmGOyYME.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat
Darrin wrote: DR Any users of Mailwasher Pro with TB! here? ... Mary replied: I ran MailWasher Pro with The Bat! for awhile. No problems. But I don't do that any more. It's redundant, in my opinion--I can do everything that MailWasher does using The Bat! all by itself. I use MailWasher and The Bat, successfully, too. However, I find Mary's comment interesting in that I use MW to look at my mail on the server and delete it there: saves me having to download 100+ spam messages needlessly. I take it, Mary, that you aren't bothered about downloading spam? (Not that this is an implied criticism, note!) Best wishes, Iain. -- Iain Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat
Hello Simon, SF Mailwasher [4.1.7.5] not only checks the mail on the server [POP SF or IMAP] but also has White/Blacklist, Bayesian SF Filtering/Learning, Blacklist (e.g. sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org) checking SF and lastly their own Spam Altert service titled First Alert SF which is a £3.50 (UK Pounds)a year subscription service contianing SF details of known and identified Spam. SF I've had superb 99.9% results with K9, but, I'm running Mailwasher SF right now and can vouch for it's Spam detection abilities too And I can second that. It's worth the money for the First Alert system alone where thousands of users are reporting spam back to a central server. The upshot is that most of the spam I get is already marked Known Spam and deleted before it even gets to the Bat. Using Mailwasher, hardly any spam at all gets through and most of it is marked deletion when it arrives in Mailwasher. It's much more effective, as far as I'm concerned, than filtering using the Bat. -- Best regards, Mike Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat
Hello Iain! On Tuesday, August 03, 2004, 4:58 PM, you wrote: IDB I use MailWasher and The Bat, successfully, too. However, I find IDB Mary's comment interesting in that I use MW to look at my mail on IDB the server and delete it there: saves me having to download 100+ IDB spam messages needlessly. That's what I do with The Bat!'s Dispatcher--I look at each mail's headers and manually mark for download the ones I want. The rest are deleted on the server. IDB I take it, Mary, that you aren't bothered about downloading spam? I never download Spam. Admittedly, I am lucky, I get offered, at most, one or two Spams a day. This week Ive been offered three of those lists of nonsense words, which I understand are an attempt at propagating an e-mail virus. The needs of business users and people who get more mail than I do may be different. On principle, I am against blacklists and bouncing mail. I think the best course is to simply delete unwanted mail. I can't remember an unwanted advertisement getting through to me since my latest change of address (to go on broadband). And before that it was a rare occasion to receive Spam here. (I like to get Amazon's announcements that they've shipped my books or DVDS. :) ) -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat
Hi malexander, On 8/3/2004 2:59 PM my time, malexander wrote: m And I can second that. It's worth the money for the First Alert m system alone where thousands of users are reporting spam back to a m central server. The upshot is that most of the spam I get is already m marked Known Spam and deleted before it even gets to the Bat. Using m Mailwasher, hardly any spam at all gets through and most of it is m marked deletion when it arrives in Mailwasher. It's much more m effective, as far as I'm concerned, than filtering using the Bat. Thanks. I have a better understanding of the first alert now. Im going to read up on it a bit more at the website. -- Darrin WinXP Home Service Pack 1 Tbat! 2.12.00 If debugging is the process of removing bugs, then programming must be the process of putting them in. pgpqBPg1PeF9H.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat
Tuesday, August 3, 2004, 5:59:50 PM, malexander wrote: malexander And I can second that. It's worth the money for the First malexander Alert system alone where thousands of users are reporting malexander spam back to a central server. The upshot is that most of malexander the spam I get is already marked Known Spam and deleted malexander before it even gets to the Bat. Using Mailwasher, hardly malexander any spam at all gets through and most of it is marked malexander deletion when it arrives in Mailwasher. It's much more malexander effective, as far as I'm concerned, than filtering using malexander the Bat. Bellsouth is my ISP and I use their mail servers and their MailGard option. So far it has caught almost all of the spam that shows up in my mailbox. Maybe one a day gets through. Out of 350 spam messages in three days only one made it to TheBat!, knock on wood (as he raps himself beside the head with his knuckles). The rest were dealt with on the server by MailGard where I have the option of viewing them to make sure none were really ham or letting the process delete them automatically. I have no idea what MailGard is, but it works. I tried BayesFilters and BayesIt out of curiosity for a while, but they were much more work and no better than the filter provided by Bellsouth. -- Regards, Plan9 Two strings walk into a bar. The first string says to the bartender: Bartender, I'll have a beer. u.5n$x5t?*4ru!2[sACC~ErJ. The second string says: Pardon my friend, he isn't NULL terminated. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat
Hi, Darrin, DR Any users of Mailwasher Pro with TB! here? Just curious about how it DR works with TB!. Good and bad experiences. I'm using the earlier free Mailwasher with TB (I haven't upgraded because the free version does all I want it to do). It worked seamlessly until recently, when I started having the send-mail problems I've been complaining about for days. It still works well, but there are a couple of glitches I can't seem to get rid of. For me, being able to delete suspect messages from the server and not even download them is a big plus. :) -- Anna Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat
Hello Anna! On Tuesday, August 03, 2004, 6:44 PM, you wrote: A For me, being able to delete suspect messages from the server and A not even download them is a big plus. :) That is exactly what The Bat!'s Message Dispatcher lets me do. :) -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat
Hello Ian! On Tuesday, August 03, 2004, 7:55 PM, you wrote: MB That is exactly what The Bat!'s Message Dispatcher lets me do. :) IAW The problem with the Message Dispatcher is that it does not classify IAW the messages based on the filters. Mailwasher does and by sorting on IAW the status, the filtered messages are grouped ... I see. As I wrote in an earlier post, my method will probably not suit many people. I like to look at my messages chronologically. And I like to examine the headers on each one. Then I decide what to download and what to delete. Most of my mail is from the three TB! lists I'm subscribed to, plus tbot, plus a scattering of mail from family and personal friends. It's rare for me to have more than 100 mails at a time to look at--usually it's 20 to 50. It is rare for me to see a Spam or a suspicious virus-trojan looking mail among them. I have the time and the inclination to do it this way. I'm most grateful that The Bat! affords me this capability. When I get my mail filtered to its various folders, I still don't read by threads. I read the mail in each folder chronologically, oldest to latest. But that's just me. Everyone else's mileage obviously varies. And that's the beauty of The Bat!--it's so flexible, to meet a variety of different needs, and it works well with so many other good programs, like MailWasher. -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
