Re: Upgrading, backuping/restoring, account folder structure (was: Re: Upgrade 1.35 -------- 1.36)
On Thursday, December 09, 1999 Alexander V. Kiselev wrote: *.lng file is updated more often, it's just a part of Intpack. It contains *actual* string resources for the foreign languages supported (if you understand what I mena:-)). But you'll need Intpack itself to use *.lng file... You're wrong. You don't need to have intpack -- you can download only lng file, unpack it and it will work just fine. Download intpack only if you want spell checkers. Best regards, -- Christopher J. Trybowski === --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- uin: 4350719 --- http://www.trybik.i.krakow.pl --- pgp-keys: 0xB92EEE69 0x9382700B ( get-pgp-key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=send_key ) Using The Bat! 1.38 [reg] under Windows 98 4.10 build 1998. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Upgrading, backuping/restoring, account folder structure (was: Re: Upgrade 1.35 -------- 1.36)
On Thursday, December 09, 1999, Ali Martin wrote: They fixed a couple problems between the 7th Dec release and the 8th Dec release. I don't know the specifics though. I ended up downloading 2 files from different sources, I think, but anyway, one of the files was dated November 20something, the other December 8. I installed the later one and it reports as version 1.38e. I notice that some folks on the list have 1.38 without the 'e', so perhaps that is the first 1.38 and should be updated. -- Paula Ford The Bat! 1.38 (reg) Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Upgrading, backuping/restoring, account folder structure (was: Re: Upgrade 1.35 -------- 1.36)
Douglas Hinds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TF I have jsut downloaded the third official version of 1.38... Third? I'm downloading now from: http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/beta.html And the site says: Download The Bat! 1.38 Release second revision Am I at the wrong site or is the text behinds the times? I know not of a third revision release of version 1.38. -- Ali Martin | Using The Bat! v1.38 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Windows NT 4.0 (Service Pack 6) [ Computers make very fast, very accurate mistakes. ] ___ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[5]: Upgrading, backuping/restoring, account folder structure (was: Re: Upgrade 1.35 -------- 1.36)
Hi Douglas, on Thursday, December 09, 1999, 4:04:25 PM GMT+0800, Douglas Hinds wrote: TF I have jsut downloaded the third official version of 1.38... DH Third? I'm downloading now from: DH http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/beta.html DH And the site says: Download The Bat! 1.38 Release second revision DH Am I at the wrong site or is the text behinds the times? I downloaded two different ones from that site yesterday. Today I downloaded form the official site ftp.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/the_bat.exe, so not the beta site, because Stefan mumbled something about a new helpfile. On the beta site, you get only the executable, whereas the official site has a self-extracting file. Creation times of the 1.38 that I have downloaded: yesterday 03:xx, yesterday 08:xx, yesterday 16:51. Times according to ftp server. -- Best regards, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.38 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Upgrading, backuping/restoring, account folder structure (was: Re: Upgrade 1.35 -------- 1.36)
Hi Douglas, Thursday, December 09, 1999, 7:50:09 AM, you wrote: DH What's THEBAT.LNG? A Linux / Gnu version? If only.no it's The Bat's language pack, which allows you to change the interface language. -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.38 under Windows 98 4 10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Upgrading, backuping/restoring,account folder structure (was: Re: Upgrade 1.35 -------- 1.36)
Hello Mark, Thursday, December 09, 1999, 3:21:19 AM, you wrote in response to my saying: DH What's THEBAT.LNG? A Linux / Gnu version? MA If only.no I'm told one's in the works. MA it's The Bat's language pack, which allows you to MA change the interface language. Thanks. I use the Spanish Spell Checker already, but can now recommend TB to users who need their instrucciones también en español. Douglas Hinds -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[6]: Upgrading, backuping/restoring,account folder structure (was: Re: Upgrade 1.35 -------- 1.36)
Hello Thomas all fellow TBUDL members, Thursday, December 09, 1999, Thomas wrote: TF ...Today I downloaded from the official site TF ftp.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/the_bat.exe, ... On the beta site, you TF get only the executable, whereas the official site has a TF self-extracting file. Downloading that now, for the better help file. In that same ftp directory, do you know what the intpack.exe is? It's 0.1 mb bigger - could be the international version w/ added language support. (a guess). Douglas Hinds -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Upgrading, backuping/restoring, account folder structure (was: Re: Upgrade 1.35 -------- 1.36)
Hi there! On 9 Dec 99, at 15:25, Douglas Hinds wrote about "Re[6]: Upgrading, backuping/restori": TF ...Today I downloaded from the official site TF ftp.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/the_bat.exe, ... On the beta site, you TF get only the executable, whereas the official site has a TF self-extracting file. Downloading that now, for the better help file. In that same ftp directory, do you know what the intpack.exe is? It's 0.1 mb bigger - could be the international version w/ added language support. (a guess). Get it if you want to use the International support... E.g. menus in Russian, or Spanish, or whatever. It's not the substitute for TB itself, it's just addition... It isn't updated very often, just when the bugs are found. You can use it until RIT labs tell you the new one is out. It's not version-specific. *.lng file is updated more often, it's just a part of Intpack. It contains *actual* string resources for the foreign languages supported (if you understand what I mena:-)). But you'll need Intpack itself to use *.lng file... The size of Intpack is due to the number of foreign languaages currently supported, it's growth in size is therefore inevitable too. -- SY, Alex (St.Petersburg, Russia) http://mph.phys.spbu.ru/~akiselev --- Thought for the day: As long as you do not move you can still choose any direction. --- PGP public keys on keyservers: 0xA2194BF9 (RSA); 0x214135A2 (DH/DSS) fingerprints: F222 4AEF EC9F 5FA6 7515 910A 2429 9CB1 (RSA) A677 81C9 48CF 16D1 B589 9D33 E7D5 675F 2141 35A2 (DH/DSS) --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Upgrade 1.35 -------- 1.36
Hello Thomas, Wednesday, December 08, 1999, 10:55:48 PM, you wrote: TF Hi Hal, TF on Thursday, December 09, 1999, 10:05:48 AM GMT+0800, Hal wrote: N Would like to know if I can upgrade my registered version 1.35 to N 1.36 without a problem. DH I would think so. I did. H BUT when I uninstall The Bat and reinstall (i.e. reformatting) I can't manually enter H my registration (via the keyboard). I have to copy and paste from a text file. Ant H idea why? TF When you uninstall you delete the info from registry (I would assume). TF If you upgrade, you don't need to do that; just put the new .exe file TF in the TB directory. TF Whe you uninstall and reinstall: what happens if you try to use the TF keyboard? I am pretty sure when I installed TB on my second computer, TF I keyed the reg info in by keyboard. Registration code is rejected as not authentic. I just happened to be lucky and had two computers to play with. When I bought this one (my wife got the hand-me-down) and installed The Bat for the first time, the registration (typed from the keyboard) was rejected and I had to go to the old computer and cut paste to a floppy. Regards, Halmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ...Gossip is a vice enjoyed vicariously! The Bat! 1.36 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Upgrade 1.35 -------- 1.36
Hello Douglas, Thursday, December 09, 1999, 2:59:07 AM, you wrote: DH Hello Hal all fellow TBUDL members, DH Wednesday, December 08, 1999, 8:05:48 PM, Hal wrote: H Hello Douglas, DH snip H ...And your crybaby whiney-assed opinion would be? DH To whom was that remark addressed? DH Douglas Hinds Bill Gates :)Actually just a cookie to brighten your day. Regards, Halmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ...And your crybaby whiney-assed opinion would be? The Bat! 1.36 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[7]: Upgrading, backuping/restoring, account folder structure (was: Re: Upgrade 1.35 -------- 1.36)
Hi Douglas, on Friday, December 10, 1999, 5:25:34 AM GMT+0800, Douglas Hinds wrote: TF ...Today I downloaded from the official site TF ftp.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/the_bat.exe, ... On the beta site, you TF get only the executable, whereas the official site has a TF self-extracting file. DH Downloading that now, for the better help file. DH In that same ftp directory, do you know what the intpack.exe is? It's DH 0.1 mb bigger - could be the international version w/ added language DH support. (a guess). Good guess. It's the International Language Pack. Download it, install it, and check whether you like the Spanish Bat!. You need to download this Pack only once, it gets updated when you download the new .lng files. -- Saludos, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.38 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Upgrading, backuping/restoring, account folder structure (was: Re: Upgrade 1.35 -------- 1.36)
Friday, December 10, 1999 Hello Mark, Thursday, Thursday, December 09, 1999, you wrote: Mark Hi Douglas, Mark Thursday, December 09, 1999, 7:50:09 AM, you wrote: DH What's THEBAT.LNG? A Linux / Gnu version? Mark If only.no it's The Bat's language pack, which allows you to Mark change the interface language. Agreed, if only the BAT was under Linux... Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.38e SPECIALISTS in datarecovery/virus removal/hard disk recovery / Computer repairs / sales / Maintenance contracts / System backups mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] website : Under construction phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Upgrading, backuping/restoring, account folder structure (was: Re: Upgrade 1.35 -------- 1.36)
On Wednesday, December 08, 1999 NDS8nz wrote: Would like to know if I can upgrade my registered version 1.35 to 1.36 without a problem. Sure you can. You can either download only the executable file or the whole distribution (in 1.38 help file is also upgraded!). You can safely re-install new version over old one. However it is always good to have a recent backup of your mail folder. "Just in case"! Oh, somebody once asked about restoring a backup when only mail folder was saved. I'll write about this here, as I think it's pretty connected. So -- in your mail folder there is almost all the critical data you need. But one thing -- the account names are in registry. So you either have to save your registry somewhere with you "mail" folder (be careful -- it also consists your registration info!) or just have to re-create it after restoring mail in *fresh* install. To restore information about accounts you just have to use "account/new" procedure, give the account any name you wish, but in "home directory" choose the folder where you have your old account. For example: I have my mail in MAIL subfolder. This folder has subfolders that correspond to my different accounts. One of the folders is called "darmo.alter.pl" (my mail account is called the same, but it makes no difference). Now, if I install new fresh TB copy, I'll just need to click account/new, in the name I can type anything, like "my secondary account" and then I'll have to set home directory to "darmo.alter.pl". BUT if I just type darmo.alter.pl in account name, then no need to specify "home directory". Just repeat the procedure for your all accounts. Another thing that might be useful is the account structure. Go to any folder of your accounts and look at account.* files. Account.cfg -- the main configuration file of your accounts. Includes everything you can find in "account/properties". Account.fld -- here the info about folders is stored. The file is not created in new TB! versions - now account.flx is used. Account.flx -- here the info about folders is stored (including folder-specific templates Account.log -- the log file of your account. Account.m_d Account.m_r -- have no idea what these are for. They are created after the first mailcheck, but... Account.qtp -- here your quick templates are stored. The file is not created in new TB! versions - now account.qtn is used. Account.qtn -- here your quick templates are stored. Account.srt -- here your filters are stored. The file is not created in new TB! versions - now account.srx is used. Account.srx -- here your filters are stored. I'm not sure if you can delete files *.srt, *.qtp *.fld when you have corresponding *.stx *.qtn *.flx... Maybe I'll test it later... I hope I haven't mistaken anything. Of course you may use this info at your own risk only. Best regards, -- Christopher J. Trybowski === --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- uin: 4350719 --- http://www.trybik.i.krakow.pl --- pgp-keys: 0xB92EEE69 0x9382700B ( get-pgp-key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=send_key ) Using The Bat! 1.38 [reg] under Windows 98 4.10 build 1998. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Upgrade 1.35 -------- 1.36
Hello Douglas, Tuesday, December 07, 1999, 10:48:03 PM, you wrote: DH Tuesday, December 07, 1999, NDS8nz wrote: N Would like to know if I can upgrade my registered version 1.35 to N 1.36 without a problem. DH I would think so. I did. DH DH BUT when I uninstall The Bat and reinstall (i.e. reformatting) I can't manually enter my registration (via the keyboard). I have to copy and paste from a text file. Ant idea why? Regards, Halmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ...And your crybaby whiney-assed opinion would be? The Bat! 1.36 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[3]: Upgrading, backuping/restoring,account folder structure (was: Re: Upgrade 1.35 -------- 1.36)
Hello Stefan all fellow TBUDL members, Wednesday, December 08, 1999, Stefan wrote: ST Received: from mail.ritlabs.com by thebat.dutaint.com Date: Wed, ST 08 Dec 1999 21:49:47 +0200 From: Stefan Tanurkov ST [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re[2]: Upgrading, backuping/restoring, ST account folder structure (was: Re: Upgrade 1.35 1.36) ST This is fixed in the today's revision of 1.38. Please feel free to ST download it :-) I download and installed v. 1.38 (apparently not a beta) yesterday, Dec. seventh from the ritlabs beta site. Was a revision uploaded on the eighth or do I have the latest one? In any case, I like it better and it does seem faster. Douglas Hinds -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Upgrading, backuping/restoring, account folder structure (was: Re: Upgrade 1.35 -------- 1.36)
Douglas Hinds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I download and installed v. 1.38 (apparently not a beta) yesterday, Dec. seventh from the ritlabs beta site. Was a revision uploaded on the eighth or do I have the latest one? They fixed a couple problems between the 7th Dec release and the 8th Dec release. I don't know the specifics though. In any case, I like it better and it does seem faster. There's an interesting filter feature addition there. You may now tie application of filters to your screensavers activity. Would you have use for that? -- Ali Martin | Using The Bat! v1.38 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Windows NT 4.0 (Service Pack 6) [ Bad command or file name! Go stand in the corner. ] ___ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[3]: Upgrading, backuping/restoring, account folder structure (was: Re: Upgrade 1.35 -------- 1.36)
Hi Stefan, on Thursday, December 09, 1999, 3:49:47 AM GMT+0800, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: ST This is fixed in the today's revision of 1.38. Please feel free to ST download it :-) I have jsut downloaded the third official version of 1.38 - should we mention download date and when when we report any bugs? ;-) -- Best regards, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.38 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Upgrade 1.35 -------- 1.36
Hi NDS8nz, on Wednesday, December 08, 1999, 9:57:24 AM GMT+0800, NDS8nz wrote: N Would like to know if I can upgrade my registered version 1.35 to 1.36 without a N problem. N Thanks, N Lars O. Brouwer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] There is absolutely no problem. Just put download the thebat.zip file (and probably the lng.zip file) from ftp.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat, and unzip into the The BAt! directory. Close the Bat and reopen it. All your mail etc will be there, with the new version of TB. -- Best regards, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.38 Beta/6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Upgrade 1.35 -------- 1.36
Tuesday, December 07, 1999, NDS8nz wrote: N Would like to know if I can upgrade my registered version 1.35 to N 1.36 without a problem. I would think so. I did. DH -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
